fish..the first indicators that I look at are the CCI's..Then I look at the MA's because I have found a somewhat predictive relationship between CCI's and MA's...I look at all the indicators every day, but put more "faith" in the CCI's..Of course I like the HISTO bars too ..Depends on where I am in a trade..The bigger the loss, the more I search every indicator looking for a turn in my favor...To me this is one tough SOB business..You can never seem to place a trade and feel like it is going to do what you want and expect..I usually get just the opposit..I am very seriously considering giving up on trying to day trade and swing trade..Maybe I will go to getting in in Oct or Nov and get out in April or May..Then play golf in the summer..Who need this crap ever day..Last week, I was getting so I hated to look at the futures and my watch list..Let alone my trade...whjich I have lost my butt on...Aren't you glad you asked..Gleno