Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:43:33 PM
Re: All that and it won't match the Barton 3200+
Not that model.
All in all a rather surprising configuration.
Did you note that it had integrated video and only 2 DIMM slots?
I agree with you that Athlon-64 will not be a cheap chip to produce. Where Barton has a variable cost around $30, Athlon-64 will probably cost AMD $60 to $75 to produce, at first. AMD would still make good money selling it to HP for $125 (and having it on pricewatch for $175), but I had expected that it would be a limited volume chip selling the $200+ range in systems that started at $1,500.
Going by the integrated video and limited DIMM slots, it looks like that box will sell for under $1,000 - maybe enough under $1,000 to leave room for a cheap monitor and printer, at least for the slowest version of Athlon-64.
Picture yourself in front of the systems lined up for sale on the shelves of Circuit City or Comp USA. For a $1,000 you can get a 64-bit 2800+ HP. How much more are you willing to pay for a 32-bit 3.4ghz P4?
The 64-bit system runs all the 32-bit software and all the 64-bit software to come.
The 32-bit system runs all the 32-bit software and none of the 64-bit software to come.
For many of the technophiles that come to sites like this one, buying the 64-bit chip is a no-brainer (face it, if that completely 32-bit compatible 64-bit chip were from Intel you guys would be tearing the pockets off your pants in your haste to rip out your wallets and buy, buy, buy),
But not everyone's a technophile, and for a lot of people, not running 64-bit software that isn't here yet won't be a deciding factor. But at $1,000 (or $1,500 for a system with a 3100+, and a DVD recorder) it doesn't need to be too compelling.
I have no idea what will happen. I'm too enamoured of technology to impartially estimate how many buyers will understand the difference. My guess is that these things will fly off the shelves a lot faster than AMD and HP can produce them - no matter how fast they produce them - but I could be very wrong.
Flip side is that if the new 64-bit chip that runs the new 64-bit windows isn't in high demand (even if Windows for AMD64 is still in beta), it would represent the death knell for the viability of the high margin processor strategy that is Intel's bread and butter.
Not that model.
All in all a rather surprising configuration.
Did you note that it had integrated video and only 2 DIMM slots?
I agree with you that Athlon-64 will not be a cheap chip to produce. Where Barton has a variable cost around $30, Athlon-64 will probably cost AMD $60 to $75 to produce, at first. AMD would still make good money selling it to HP for $125 (and having it on pricewatch for $175), but I had expected that it would be a limited volume chip selling the $200+ range in systems that started at $1,500.
Going by the integrated video and limited DIMM slots, it looks like that box will sell for under $1,000 - maybe enough under $1,000 to leave room for a cheap monitor and printer, at least for the slowest version of Athlon-64.
Picture yourself in front of the systems lined up for sale on the shelves of Circuit City or Comp USA. For a $1,000 you can get a 64-bit 2800+ HP. How much more are you willing to pay for a 32-bit 3.4ghz P4?
The 64-bit system runs all the 32-bit software and all the 64-bit software to come.
The 32-bit system runs all the 32-bit software and none of the 64-bit software to come.
For many of the technophiles that come to sites like this one, buying the 64-bit chip is a no-brainer (face it, if that completely 32-bit compatible 64-bit chip were from Intel you guys would be tearing the pockets off your pants in your haste to rip out your wallets and buy, buy, buy),
But not everyone's a technophile, and for a lot of people, not running 64-bit software that isn't here yet won't be a deciding factor. But at $1,000 (or $1,500 for a system with a 3100+, and a DVD recorder) it doesn't need to be too compelling.
I have no idea what will happen. I'm too enamoured of technology to impartially estimate how many buyers will understand the difference. My guess is that these things will fly off the shelves a lot faster than AMD and HP can produce them - no matter how fast they produce them - but I could be very wrong.
Flip side is that if the new 64-bit chip that runs the new 64-bit windows isn't in high demand (even if Windows for AMD64 is still in beta), it would represent the death knell for the viability of the high margin processor strategy that is Intel's bread and butter.
Recent INTC News
- Futures Signal Continued Gains for Wall Street: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq • IH Market News • 04/17/2026 01:23:37 PM
- Futures Indicate Further Upside for Wall Street: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq • UK Market News • 04/17/2026 01:23:27 PM
- Intel Unveils Core Series 3 Mobile Chips Aimed at Value Segment • IH Market News • 04/16/2026 02:40:59 PM
- TSMC Delivers Record Q1 Profit, Flags Potential Middle East Supply Risks • IH Market News • 04/16/2026 11:28:45 AM
- Intel and Google Deepen Collaboration to Advance AI Infrastructure with Xeon CPUs and Custom IPUs • Business Wire • 04/09/2026 01:00:00 PM
- U.S. stock futures edge lower as markets await Iran ceasefire talks in Pakistan: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street • IH Market News • 04/09/2026 11:36:18 AM
- U.S. stock futures slip as markets await Iran ceasefire talks in Pakistan: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street • UK Market News • 04/09/2026 11:36:10 AM
- Form 8-K - Current report • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 04/08/2026 08:05:34 PM
- Intel shares rise after joining Terafab semiconductor initiative • IH Market News • 04/07/2026 01:50:28 PM
- Form 8-K - Current report • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 04/03/2026 04:50:37 PM
- Intel Appoints Aparna Bawa as Executive Vice President and Chief Legal & People Officer • Business Wire • 04/02/2026 08:05:00 PM
- Ceasefire Hopes and Strong Economic Data Power Wall Street Rally to Start Q2 • IH Market News • 04/01/2026 08:34:46 PM
- Intel to repurchase Apollo’s stake in Irish chip facility for $14.2 billion • IH Market News • 04/01/2026 02:48:34 PM
- Intel to Repurchase 49% Equity Interest in Ireland Fab Joint Venture • Business Wire • 04/01/2026 01:00:00 PM
- Intel to Report First-Quarter 2026 Financial Results • Business Wire • 03/31/2026 09:02:00 PM
- Form SCHEDULE 13G/A - Statement of Beneficial Ownership by Certain Investors: [Amend] • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/27/2026 01:51:11 PM
- Intel shares rise after report of planned CPU price increases • IH Market News • 03/25/2026 03:24:25 PM
- Form DEFA14A - Additional definitive proxy soliciting materials and Rule 14(a)(12) material • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/23/2026 08:38:44 PM
- Form DEF 14A - Other definitive proxy statements • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/23/2026 08:35:22 PM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/04/2026 12:57:09 AM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/04/2026 12:56:24 AM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/04/2026 12:55:26 AM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/04/2026 12:54:23 AM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 03/04/2026 12:53:24 AM
