Wbmw: Why do anything of the sort? You'll just ignore it and then claim something that the data just doesn't support thats favorable to NGA. Then after you are caught, you'll just make quips unrelated to the subject at hand. If you really want to see differences between various AMD CPUs at varying cache amounts see this CPU comparison page from Tom's hardware: <A HREF="http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=245&chart=58&model2=240" target="_blank">http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=245&chart=58&model2=240</A> Just look at the bars in red. You can select which CPUs and what benchmark to compare with. Its so simple even someone as challanged as you can do it. Pete