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Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:58:35 PM
Whoooaa....before you start talking patent infringements you need to have the patents approved. To do that they have to prove Novelty and Inventiveness. Simply re-wording the existing verbiage will not change the core novelty of the process. The EPO is not questioning the outcome from the use of stem cells only the novelty and inventiveness which is the key here.
Patent infringement date is set by application acceptance, so it can be enforceable retroactively. The only advantage to hurry an EPO response would be to rush to take patent infringers to court. Does a delay extend the number of years the patent is good for? Basically do the 20 yr whatever patent rights begin from application or patent issuance?
The EPO preliminary findings will be the basis of any re-wording response, IMO. From what I have seen it comes down to this.. It has been known that fat derived stem cells can be utilized to "regenerate".. It has also been known that ultrasonic cavitation can release stem cells. The novelty and inventiveness comes in play when the developed process is utilized to significantly increase the number of stem cell viability usable for regenerative purposes..
IMO, EPO is just looking for wording clarity.
I find it very curious that the Australian crew is now using a flow cytometer... Wasn't this supposedly giving false viability reads? I think there may be some inevitability creeping in...
They state repeatedly that many of the claims can be performed by the "skilled man" which means they are not inventive and not a basis for patent approval. How do you propose they re-word the process? It doesn't matter how they re-word it hence my earlier comment that they will need to re-invent the process which I doubt they can do. The process is what it is and appears to be unpatentable in the eyes of the EPO.
One would think anyone would use a flow cytometer when one wants to know cell yield. It's not an uncommon device used at all and not the source of any new revelations. How many different flow cytometer's do you think exist in the world today?
Cell yield sounds great but no one knows what an optimum cell yield happens to be. And what happens when someone boasts the highest cell yield yet someone else can achieve better more consistent results with a lower yield? More is not always better.
Maybe SVFC will issue the EPO a convertible note to help push this through. I bet $$Frank could help with that.
$$Apparently $$All $$About $$Disseminating $$Relayed $$Info so I will gladly let the investing public decide why $$Frank takes calls from some & not others of the investing public, as here Frank Lorenzo also hopes that saying although he passed along the fraudulent info he did not supposedly originate said lie, Gregg Lorenzo did, he just disseminated them
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$$Investing $$Public $$Remembers $$All $$BOD $$Hype but the $$Facts $$are $$this
$$SVFC $$YA $$Global would that be this BOD who had to approve all of the below as per the filings
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SVFC/filings $$SVFC $$YA $$Global & ole Slick Vic has been getting help for many many months even from that supposed illustrious BOD who also had to approve the YA Global Convertible Debenture Deal & who have NO $$skin in the game of their own http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SVFC/filings & the likes of
Frank Lorenzo as a SVFC Advisor & as the contact issuing updates & information, by definition, head of SVFC Investor Relations was thought to be an asset to SVFC but for any of the investing public seeking the truths a simple click of the links shows the below FACTS.
Yep, anyone following them is used to this $$Hope $$Hype $$Corporate $$Bullshit & $$Lies $$Since .078 in 7-12-2013 to 0001 again today 12/10/14 maybe that helps explain $$SVFC's $$Investor $$Relations $SVFC $$Frank $$Lorenzo Click links 4 the $$Frank $$Lorenzo stink
http://www.sec.gov/alj/aljdec/2013/id544cff.pdf
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1365171512822
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/apdocuments/3-15211-event-47.pdf
I will gladly let the investing public decide as here Frank Lorenzo also hopes that saying although he passed along the fraudulent info he did not supposedly originate said lie, Gregg Lorenzo did, he just disseminated them & that he is also no longer in the Securities Industry. hhmm but he is an Advisor to SVFC & handling Investor Relations for a publicly traded company.
We appreciate your email and your continued support.
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Patent infringement date is set by application acceptance, so it can be enforceable retroactively. The only advantage to hurry an EPO response would be to rush to take patent infringers to court. Does a delay extend the number of years the patent is good for? Basically do the 20 yr whatever patent rights begin from application or patent issuance?
The EPO preliminary findings will be the basis of any re-wording response, IMO. From what I have seen it comes down to this.. It has been known that fat derived stem cells can be utilized to "regenerate".. It has also been known that ultrasonic cavitation can release stem cells. The novelty and inventiveness comes in play when the developed process is utilized to significantly increase the number of stem cell viability usable for regenerative purposes..
IMO, EPO is just looking for wording clarity.
I find it very curious that the Australian crew is now using a flow cytometer... Wasn't this supposedly giving false viability reads? I think there may be some inevitability creeping in...
They state repeatedly that many of the claims can be performed by the "skilled man" which means they are not inventive and not a basis for patent approval. How do you propose they re-word the process? It doesn't matter how they re-word it hence my earlier comment that they will need to re-invent the process which I doubt they can do. The process is what it is and appears to be unpatentable in the eyes of the EPO.
One would think anyone would use a flow cytometer when one wants to know cell yield. It's not an uncommon device used at all and not the source of any new revelations. How many different flow cytometer's do you think exist in the world today?
Cell yield sounds great but no one knows what an optimum cell yield happens to be. And what happens when someone boasts the highest cell yield yet someone else can achieve better more consistent results with a lower yield? More is not always better.
Maybe SVFC will issue the EPO a convertible note to help push this through. I bet $$Frank could help with that.
$$Apparently $$All $$About $$Disseminating $$Relayed $$Info so I will gladly let the investing public decide why $$Frank takes calls from some & not others of the investing public, as here Frank Lorenzo also hopes that saying although he passed along the fraudulent info he did not supposedly originate said lie, Gregg Lorenzo did, he just disseminated them
Now with more links to verify $$SVFC $$Hope $$Hype $$Excuses $$Corporate $$Greed $$Lies $$Helping $$Fund $$Lifestyles @ $$Shareholders $$Expense w/$$Steadily $$Declining $$Value w/ $$Steadily $$Increasing $$Shares
$$Investing $$Public $$Remembers $$All $$BOD $$Hype but the $$Facts $$are $$this
$$SVFC $$YA $$Global would that be this BOD who had to approve all of the below as per the filings
Frank Lorenzo as a SVFC Advisor & as the contact issuing updates & information, by definition, head of SVFC Investor Relations was thought to be an asset to SVFC but for any of the investing public seeking the truths a simple click of the links shows the below FACTS.
Yep, anyone following them is used to this $$Hope $$Hype $$Corporate $$Bullshit & $$Lies $$Since .078 in 7-12-2013 to 0001 again today 12/10/14 maybe that helps explain $$SVFC's $$Investor $$Relations $SVFC $$Frank $$Lorenzo Click links 4 the $$Frank $$Lorenzo stink
http://www.sec.gov/alj/aljdec/2013/id544cff.pdf
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1365171512822
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/apdocuments/3-15211-event-47.pdf
I will gladly let the investing public decide as here Frank Lorenzo also hopes that saying although he passed along the fraudulent info he did not supposedly originate said lie, Gregg Lorenzo did, he just disseminated them & that he is also no longer in the Securities Industry. hhmm but he is an Advisor to SVFC & handling Investor Relations for a publicly traded company.
We appreciate your email and your continued support.
If you would like to discuss Intellicell further, please call me at 551 427 8476
Regards-
Frank
Frank Lorenzo – Advisor
Intellicell Biosciences, Inc.
460 Park Avenue – 17th floor
New York, NY 10022
www.intellicellbiosciences.com
Cell: 551 427 8476
Office: 212 249 3050
Fax 201 829 0845
lorenzofrank7@gmail.com
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (including any attachments) is intended solely for the use of INTELLICELL BIOSCIENCES, INC.. its affiliates and the individual addressee(s). This message may contain confidential and/or private information privileged to recipient or recipients named above. If you are not the authorized recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient(s), please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown above and delete this message from your system, other storage mechanism and/or shred the document and any attachments. Any unauthorized use, review or dissemination of this message in whole or in part by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. INTELLICELL BIOSCIENCES, INC. shall not be liable for the improper or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system.
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http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=108172553
nice saved screenshots of so many memorable SVFC moments/decisions
ALL above links work just fine & so does the below
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