ya know - I have talked with Chuck on the phone a few times - and I respect his way of dealing with things - the MB on IHUB is more than a posting vehicle - many posters talk voice to voice - and many of us range in age from 20's to 80's - posters make their own choices - you do not need to question anybodies motives - just stick to the companies facts and you'll be welcome here - other than that - just move on.