Just an aside... How's your silver doing? Hate to see anyone lose money but.... Live Spot Silver Price SPOT MARKET IS OPEN closes in 20 hrs. 50 mins. 9 secs. change since 19:00 London Time Price: US$/Oz Sep 23 2014 8:24PM NY Time Bid/Ask 17.73 17.83 http://www.kitcosilver.com/ Where do you think the bottom is? Might have to buy a few bars myself. I'm thinking $12-14.