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Re: Amaunet post# 6898

Saturday, 04/01/2006 1:03:34 PM

Saturday, April 01, 2006 1:03:34 PM

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The pertinent issue is that the US government obviously suspects that many immigrants especially from Venezuela are under foreign influence. With the growing influence of Latinos, if this is true, what is to stop the secession of California?

He also was asked whether the U.S. government should have concerns about Venezuelan immigrants and whether they might act upon declarations or pronouncements from that country's embassy or consulate.

#msg-10448619

This is not an immigration matter although immigration is a factor. Rather this is a situation in which a targeted future majority could easily become under the control of a foreign power whether the Latinos are conscious of who is in reality pulling the strings or not.

A California secession movement is already underway. At the present it lacks support and is anti-immigration. There is, however, no reason why the secession movement cannot be hijacked by a plurality that also happens to be under the sway of foreign pressure, it being the clandestine foreign interference to which I object.

My agreement with much of what Chavez stands for and understanding of Iranian and Chinese positions does not answer the question of how will this kind of power which could easily include the takeover of California corrupt?

Is this a from the frying pan into the fire matter?

-Am

California secession: New California Republic

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:58:08 PM

Move On California becomes
New California Republic

The support and well-wishes from all of our readers and contributors has been amazing. In order to keep the momentum of the move toward California independence alive we have agreed to change the name of our website and organization. Move On California will now be known as New California Republic.



An independent California:
How scary can that be?

This isn’t about starting a civil war. We are talking about peaceful secession and the creation of an independent California. Time will judge if a majority of Californians agree that independence is the best way. If and when that happens it is our desire that cooler heads prevail and a diplomatic, peaceful, political resolution comes about.
Read more>>


California secession debate is
not simply a red and blue issue

Some common ground is beginning to emerge that frames the discussion of an independent California in a different light. While the New California Republic was founded in reaction to the disappointment of George Bush’s re-election, there are some very good reasons why a majority of Californians should at least consider moving down the path toward independence.


Red reasons

Blue reasons


Secession makes sense to your wallet

The citizens of California will soon see that all of the talk about secession isn’t so farfetched when it hits them in the pocketbook. California secession is not just about gay marriage and abortion rights. It’s about preserving our state’s economy. It’s about protecting Californians from red state politicians who want to siphon off our taxes to pay for pork barrel spending projects in their own states.
Read more>>

Immigration and independence

Californians need to step up and take a bigger role in solving this problem. Whether it is independently as a republic or working together with our neighboring regions, the states most greatly impacted by the affects of immigration are best suited to understand and solve the problems. Californians didn’t wait for the federal government to fund stem cell research, let’s not wait for Washington to bring about meaningful immigration reform.
Read more>>



Just the blue of us
Who's to say what the North American continent will look like
in 30, 50 or 100 years? Demographic, cultural, economic and political changes could dramatically change the landscape of the continent.




Putting independence on the ballot

Numerous people responding to the New California Republic have suggested we move forward with a ballot initiative for California secession. Some kind of ballot initiative is something that we would like to move toward with a degree of caution.
Read more>>

Questions and answers about secession

Secession may not be the only answer or even the best answer, but citizens on the West Coast are finding themselves increasingly disenfranchised from the conservative cultural domination of the large middle and southern sections of the country, dubbed by some pundits as "Jesusland."
Read more>>

>Listen to interview with New California Republic organizer Jeff Morrissette and Thomas Naylor, founder of the Second Vermont Republic, on KPFA Radio 94.1 from 12.15.04
>More satire: Red Babies, Blue Babies: liberals need to fuck more
>And now for something completely different...There is one scenario that is worth entertaining which might make secession a moot point—the implosion of the Republican Party.


http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:_3E_C72eBpkJ:www.newcaliforniarepublic.org/+california+secede&am....

Reference:
Latinos are projected to become the largest racial or ethnic group by 2011 and
to constitute a majority by 2040. They are now the largest group of residents under age 30, and almost half of births are to Latina women.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:pvZLRnJ6Op4J:www.ppic.org/content/pubs/JTF_FuturePopulationJTF.p....

Latinas/os will become the majority of the
California kindergarten through twelfth
grade population by 2008,
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:wElaTXoHRecJ:www.chicano.ucla.edu/press/siteart/LPIB_04Feb2002.p....

Chavez Calls to Avoid Invading Iran

Caracas, Mar 31 (Prensa Latina) Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned on Friday that the US intends to invade Iran in its search for energy resources, and said the world can avoid that aggression.

ElBaradei: Iran Sanctions Bad Idea


At the opening of a hydroelectric station on the Caroni River Chavez publicly asked Europe, Russia, and China to save the world by evading the US aggressive policy.



After denouncing the genocidal occupation of Iraq, he said Europe has an important role in preventing that "US imperialist policies cause a greater tragedy in Iran."



The Venezuelan president, who called to resolve international differences diplomatically, accused US President George W. Bush of trying to implement a fascist anti-immigrant law.



Chavez wondered how Bush could justify the immigration law, which is something horrible, an atrocity," against millions of human beings, and said that measure, together with the wall to stop immigration of Latin Americans to the United States, "borders on fascism." hr/ccs/iom/ml

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID={73F56B67-F242-426B-8C04-3FAC81FD9B99})&language=EN














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