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tomvlasic...
how old it the email.. months or since the suspension..??
TIA
now invest..
DCBass..
Not enough snow to close airports.. If it was scheduled.. should have happened...
we will see..
Jabberstox..
Looks like there was a lot of buys stacking up at .005 and .006.. they are eating those shares up..
nowinvest
3,934,748 shares @.004
14:07:43 wow.. someone wanted out... now we are trading again..
Bird thanks for coming to my rescue.. LOL..
Yes.. I didn't spell it right..
you all caught me... hope it made your day... didn't ruin mine... trust me...depostion... was the correct spelling.. however.. the rest of my post stands..
And.. we will see how the bashers do make out from here...
Duh... (spelling ok on that one?)
If he is giving a dispositon today..
That is only the beginning.. not the end... he is simply stating his position and answering questions from the SEC. If any other parties are involved (the reseller?, DOD?, accusers?) they all may have to have theirs done. If they are not done, we have to wait for that... THEN the SEC has to review all. and PERHAPS have a second round..
This is My take... so I am NOT hopeful that we will hear anything soon on this. Maybe all the others are done, and the SEC simply wants Jim on the record... but... doubt it..
Hope we do hear something soon...
now invest..
Well we will see,
But I can't possibly think how it would not ADD to our value... My money is on the line on that one..
nowinvest..
I have no idea why??
remember the 15% will mainly(if not completely) be part of AACS Assets!! So for "money already expended" in things such as Dan's and other AACS employees time over the last several years Plus money spent on filings, legal fees, Trips, etc... AACS is getting 15%... OK.. so Whatever the price of the new stock does... that value would be reflected in those shares.. Assuming they are worth more than ZERO... it can only ADD to AACS's value.. IMHO..
Can't figure out who would tell you such a thing... IMO.. this is a GREAT addition to AACS ....
I would have not bought here after the announcement if I thought it was negative..
No I see it as a GREAT positive on the price of AACS stock.. In theory, for every $1.00 AFGP makes in the future we get $.15 of...
Anyway.. that is my take,
now invest..
Beerthirty..
To me when I see the second trade duplicating the first at a lower price it means they want the price down.. Especially when there are several in a row all in the same directions.. Likewise, if the second trade is up,then the powers to be want the price up... today.. IT showed down.. It is the first time I saw that on the grey's ... It happens all the time on the OTCBB.. and usually they are able for at least a short time to set the direction..
IF there is suppose to be only matching trades within a brokage house, well, seems funny to me that they aren't minipulating the tape.. Hey... what do I know... Watch though if this turns in the other direction...
nowinvest..
Playtowin..
there were at least 5 or 6 trades(on different computer nowu that were double printed... more than $1600 here...
but seems no one else is interested... But first time I saw so many on the Grey's..
No MMs????
I can't understand the double printing... look at the recent trades... First a green trade then a red one following right away for the same shares... I think the Brokers are trading between each other and have a supply... otherwise how do they sell first then buy??
nowinvest..
UP from here.... I think so... but...
May take a little longer.... My view.. IMHO... is that we will be at least above .02 in two months by now...Hey.. that is a 66% gain... Here is why..
I do think we will be hearing about the dealership.. Dan mentioned.. AND maybe even a second..(look out above if it is scheduled for this summer).
I think We will hear how much of AFGP AACS will be owning.. I am betting on the 15%...
Hopefully we also will be hearing on a stock dividend of AFGP stock...
With luck... AFGP will actually be trading two months from now..maybe a little sooner or a little later.. but we should know...
Two months from now I hope Kevin and Dan will give us a CLEARER picture of Chariot Sales for the peak season..Dealerships and shows.. I am hoping that we can be ramping up to a FULL production schedule... Hoping for an infusion of Capital from the Dealerships, CashFlow from Trailers being sold now, Maybe loan from AFGP, and Cashflow from IMW... I am HOPING and I believe that the hold back has been lack of operating Capital..
On IMW... Not sure what will happen, but Yesterday's PR.. says to me... we can make MORE money on that entity.. remember we still have the "deal" floating out there somewhere... not sure it is totally dead yet.. AND don't forget DAN said two pieces of equipment were being overhalled..
Vike on RB made some good points about money going to get AFGP going... could have been a bleed on AACS... Well... NOW... that bleed should be almost stopped.. and Maybe soon we will see BENEFITS of AFGP.. Dan has talked about AFGP being HUGE.. WEll... IF the SEC lets it start trading... I think we will know How HUGE very quickly..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway... I am more hopefull than I have been in months.... Dan has to perform wisely and get CASH FLOW moving on AACS while moving forward on AFGP... IF he can get over the RAMPING UP of CHARIOT sales(operating Capital) I think we will be all PLEASENTLY SURPRISED.. and by summer NEW SMILES on many faces.. WELL... DAN... Make it happen..
Hmm.. after writing/reading this... maybe time to buy more... LOL... Been a LOOOONG HARD BATTLE.. so do your own DD...
now invest...
Wow.. Can't believe that there is this level
of Bashing on this board... I thought RB was bad... I am reading less and less here.. So many bashes on the same thing over and over.. AND So many responses ... Boy.. some of the longs here are really making the bashers smile if there is any truth that they get paid not only per post but for EVERY REPLY..
Well... just cutting down on the time I spend here... Little DD or worthwhile conversation on the company... Hope it changes soon...
I am not paying the bashers... Are you??
now invest...
Do we know in Fact that he is going?? And when?? Other than FOSE...
thanks..
robotified...
I will drop this... But Standard Protocol might be to NOT address the investigation ... OTHER than to say they are cooperating..
I personally don't believe that you can't mention ... NEW PRODUCTS!! Whether the form was filed for an MM OR simply letting us know that he CAN'T until.. ?? happens..!! New Advertising!! and Maybe ... the status of the AF's...
Don't forget that during this time... IF you believe some of the posters here... Jim supposely said... back to the pinks... no greys... be finished quickly... we have everything ... no worries... etc... AND had at least 3 meetings with shareholders... and talks to "SOME"...
Nah... don't believe it..
But... back into my corner to practice Patience!!!
Robotified..
you mentioned this..
"he is not to speak or release any information until this is finished."
Explain how he issued the "we are back to normal" PR??
Sorry, but I don't believe that is the case.. BE CAREFUL... YES.. but Would like to know about the "can't" part..
thanks.
nowinvest..
Boy, Where are all these shares coming from..
Thought my buy at .085 a couple of days ago was great.. Now... or should I say 'for now' maybe not.. Obviously.. either some on this board are dumping.. or the shorts are just collecting stock... BUT... they could also still be selling stock... I really don't get it...
Jim's silence, well... don't get that either... He could be annouceing the new advertising.. how the EMALL is going... How hiring and where they are hiring .. A PR with the new higher GIG Ramp.. and just give an "allowable" update on the SEC and the company in general.. IF the forms have been filled for Pinks... UPDATE on the AF's even if it is something like we have forwarded them to the SEC for final review.. OR a statement that they CAN'T be filed ...IF that is the case
I think Jim could reach out to the shareholders who have and still are weathering this out.. Many potential shareholders are watching... and will remember how JP responded in this very difficult time... THINK of the Pennies you would never invest in because of the CEO...
Jim.. TIME to stand up and lead... Your MAIN job is increasing shareholder value.. and LETTING the SHAREHOLDERS know what they hold...
Pain is awful down here at .004... NOT selling... but looking for some leadership... OH.. NICE GUY... or HONEST ACTING.. or do your own DD.. doesn't buy it with me...
I have seen the commercials, seen all the PRs... reviewed the products.. CAlled BA(NO HELP TO ME AT ALL)... wrote and called the company.. NO RESPONSE.. and I think as a Shareholder with 3 others also into this... an UPDATE is due...
OH.. going out there is not an option... and frankly... shouldn't be necessary.. Done that before.. have had CEO's and IR people basically mislead a group of 5 of us..
NO.. JP should be giving an update.. period... OH.. sell?? What do that and get pennies on the dollar... nah.. this gets straightened out or... I predict a CLASS ACTION SUIT.. NOT a threat.. trust me... just well.. too much money by too many..
My fault if I misjudge how a product set could be profitable or not.. NOT my fault for believing PRs and UPDATES by the CEO... enough said.. I am hoping that JP... really has what he says in his back pocket..
Not the time for Jim to 'dummy up'... We know he can PR.. he has...
Venting at .004.... but the silence is deafening..
now invest..
KKgd... More great DD?
Now have you talked to say 90% of the companies in that arena?? or non?? Did Jim tell you that directly..?? Through a third party?? I just envy people who have such great connections and are so willing to help their fellow man...
I know you wouldn't publish anything that you couldn't back up... I mean really .... you would have to be an out and out liar and lowlife to do that... and I am sure you can't be that bad Right??
Might be wrong,
but Last quarter I believe even Chariot was CF Positive.. and that is important... NOW IF... this dealership thing happens and the contract is good... Well.. Chariot could REALLY be contributing.. So... while NO WHERE as big as most of us thought... NOT a huge drag on $$$$$ NOW...
nowinvest..
Racket.. your welcome...
Again... I don't see what is currently happening as tooooo 'FORWARD THINKING" I feel this stuff is happening right now...!!
All IMHO.....
The filing for AFGP is in... and being reviewed... the clock is ticking...What 54 or so days left and we could be trading..
Previous and last PR said AACS will own part of the company... frankly older ones spelled out at Least 15%. The newer one mentions a stock dividend also... Here is where I believe that NO way we should be at this price!!! IMHO... we should be much closer to .02 or over... but.. who am I!!
We are waiting for word on the FIRST (after years) dealership frankly IMHO... this is important to have a steady stream of trailers being made.. shows plus this dealership and the possibility of more... Over the years Dan has alluded to production issues... keeping things going... new molds and personal hireing.. Well... with a more steady stream of sales I think this will be easier.. and lower costs..
Then we have IMW... We know that they still are doing jobs, but we haven't heard what happened with all the deals.. So, hopefully something good will happen here, or at least status quo being CF positive and EPS positive.. Any real good news here is somewhat of a dark horse..
NO... I don't see this as TOOO much forward looking into the unknown as compared to only a month ago... When the Jello starts hardening... you know that desert is soon...
Hey... Trust me I Know along with many Long timers here... any thing can happen... but I do have MY money where my mouth is at on this one... what's left.. LOL..
good luck...
nowinvest..
A smaller one would be good for the car...
Assuming it was still big enough for a pistol... the current one just seemed to big for attaching say to the center console just in front on the right of the driver.. but like the idea of having a safe in the car....
now invest..
Wow..Power Forward..
you must have great contacts to know that ... could you share your source?? after all 200K at .004 is a clear indication of your knowledge in this area... right??? Hmmm...
Well.. let's see 200k at .004 is....$800 ... I know JP needed a new desk so he diluted the stock... close??
Love this type of DD...
Hmmm maybe time to get more money in my account.. maybe a chance to really double down...
now invest...
Not sure what the review process is in the SEC.. but I think once they are on their way... Hopefully the BOD will meet and announce something....
I am surprised... but not totally that there isn't more buying at these prices...
nowinvest..
Racket...
Actually With that news I also thought we would move slightly.. I know most of us LONG timers wanted to see what else Dan had to announce before jumping tooo far... However the news on AFGP... and the lack of response... well... I really thought at least .015... IF not higher.. I know many have questions on how we(AACS) are going to benefit, Dan id put it in writing again on the PR of "intent"... Personally I believe with the old PRs and this... AACS will own a piece of this.. at least 15% sooner rather than later..
The days are ticking away for that to start trading... and hopefully it Won't be delayed in any way by the SEC...
Dan.. well... does have some timing "creditabilities" to overcome.. so not many are jumping on board yet..
I am hoping that MAYBE if AACS gets out the word better to Investors wanting in on AGFP... on how AACS will be owning a piece PLUS... what we have in IMW and Chariot.. some of the potential investors for AGFP will buy some AACS stock while it is so cheap rather than maybe chasing AGFP when it opens...
Dan needs to follow through on his "timing" guesses and close some AACS deals... Chariot dealership?? Deals/Contracts for IMW.. and even MORE clarity on what AACS will own on AGFP.. A couple of Good PR news items and I think .015 will be behind us... !!
But... IMHO.. and I mean Humble.. .013 is CHEAP!!! So I took the dive and bought more at .013 and some at .0135 yesterday..
Good luck with your investment here...
now invest...
Brentjanice...
Listening to the bashers on how we are near the end.. and what a scam... etc... I would have to say JP is a real con artist spending money on advertising while planning to shut down... RIGHT!! LOL..
Feel evem a "little more better" on the shares I bought today.. thanks.. for the info...
now invest..
Picked up almost 300k today...
We will see now how all this pans out... Will be looking for Dan to pull through on the dealership program for Chariot.. As reported he... a good Daytona show... and hopefully an update on WHERE we are with IMW....
Add to this AFGP... what about 55 days away from trading, and maybe before that on clarity of what shares are coming AACS's way.. maybe a move out of this one...
Thinking that in 3-4 months... I may have a double or triple on the stock just purchased..?? Well.. thought that before.. and didn't happen... but JUST MAYBE... this time.. LOL
nowinvest..
Knowles....
just bought 200k at .0085 ... etrade.. About a 15 minute wait..
now invest...
today.. at .013
I decided to go for it... Hey... the filing was a good thing, and I am taking that PR at it's word... Maybe time will prove that I was foolish.. but IF AFGP is anywhere as good as Dan has talked about over a year today's buys will be good... Looks like I am first in line at .013.. so anyone wanting to sell..
nowinvest..
Well someone is buying...
I wired some cash.. not there yet at .012.. seemed too good to be true... but well... may have to wait now... Have upper limit I will buy at here... but .. where is that cash.. LOL..
I really think we will see a move up from that .012 level... and Maybe NEVER see it again...
Yep... just my opinion.. lots of people tired of waiting here that may sell... But to me the UP vs Down from here is worth the risk...
now invest...
where are we NOW...
I hear a more and more trying to plan trips to see Jim.. Fine, certainly he has said anyone can go out and see him and he will make an appointment for you..
My question is simple... Why all the mystery??
OK.. We know that their is an SEC probe... and MAYBE Jim can't talk about that.. not sure he can't say ANYTHING though..
Even before the Probe, Jim made himself available only to the FEW... not only when visiting CKYS but responding to emails and Calls also.. He brought on a lot of the ... LETS DRIVE OR FLY OUT THERE.. mania on..himself..IMHO...
Not following through on PRs.. for example.. the one saying he would be announcing new contracts in a few weeks. or the new PLATFORM for the government.. NEXT WEEK..
I know Jim has a plan... Well.. in broad terms, Jim should be laying that out... PERIOD.. And NO he hasn't..IMO.. the last update didn't mention ONE new contract from the first show yet PRs say that it was very successful.. No updates on the buyback, ok... are they still doing it?? NOT ... we bought 23,928,900 shares.. but ARE we still on track... National sales hiring..?? Ever hear a PR on New Markets nationwide? To who? And how about a clearer time frame for the AF's... or an update on Revenues for the month.. YES companies do do that, Retail, Oil companies, and others..
this is our company as well as his, and it is time that Jim lifts this cloak and dagger stuff.. NO.. not looking for info that is bound by NDA's or sensitive to ongoing negotiations with new customers... but Quantitiy of sales updates.. New channels... Etc... Listen.. what competition is out there KNOWS this stuff.. why not us...
Anyway.. Time for Jim to tell what he knows... and can say.. period.. For the most part... calls, visits, and long posts like this would greatly be minimized..
How about it Jim.. respond to the shareholders...
now invest..
imahustler...
Certainly.. if he goes to jail, or if he "looses" the value on his stock... he certainly will be a huge loser.. But frankly.. CEO's in pennys have a way of making Millions without the stock going up... the CEO of ADZR and others are still making hundreds of thousands a year in salariers and other compensation.. while OUTSIDE investors lost 90 or more % of their money... Another stock NCTI.. CEO makes around $700K.. yet... the stock has turned to PINK due to lack of financials.. Tomorrow the "Board".. could grant Jim an incentive of 1B shares for getting the stock back to the Pinks and another Billion shares for To get it to the OTCBB.. The company starts really making money.. but now our shares are worth what 1/4 or less of what they could have been.. I have seen this happen in different penny stocks, one in which over the years insiders are ending up with over 90% of the stock at low prices while the company is silent on progress... All legal..seemingly.. So... Jim Needs to show... is in the Lack of dilution and an increase in share price..!!! Ever hear of Death Spiral financing.. ah.. enough..
Don't want to debate this.. I know JIM would be much better off if he makes the stock move....Much better IMO.... but if he doesn't and keeps it running CEO's(not saying he would) can milk a company DRY and become Quite wealthy doing it....
I am Betting on this NOT happening here... Over $50k in and more to follow most likely.. Been buying(recently) at .011, not even tried yet to get the REAL CHEAP shares. Time is running out for Jim to perform.. as MANY here believe he is going to..
Time for Jim... to "show us the money".. Back to the pinks... AF's and New contracts... and "frugal" use of the Cash coming in.. Cash Flow is what makes a company..!!!!
PM me... if you want to continue discussion.. otherwise Bashers will be parsing words and running wild with them.. LOL..
Good Luck..
now invest..
BirdsofFire...
While I agree with most of your post two items I think should be clarified,
First Jim Plant should be held responsible for the condition of the company ... Good or Bad.. While he be hard at work, IMHO... the buck stops with him on this SEC fiasco. Rumor is that the information request was somehow misplaced, or at least not given priority.. ?? I don't have to be a CEO to know that ANY Gov't body asking for data MUST get it, especially if they have powers like the SEC has.
On the flip side... ONCE we come out of this... hopefully... and IF Jim has grown the company and Cash Flow during this time... then... that is TO HIS CREDIT... Jim just can't be praised for good work.. and overlooked for failures.. He is IT both ways.. And as stated you don't have to be a CEO to understand SOUND business Practices.
Second... IT is OUR Company(including Jim PLANT).. Any company that goes public is NOT the CEO's company, in fact no one (that I have seen) ever commented on the end of the SHAREHOLDERS update Jim's thank you for the investing in HIS company... POOR choice of words..
Having said that...hearing what people(some I think who are fairly honest) And seeing the advertising, Emall, and other items.. I plan to put even more money in to the stock tomorrow unless it TAKES off.. But... GOOD OR BAD... no free ride for Jim...
Good luck.. on this... we could use it.... "for now".. soon... maybe the business plan will take over from luck... LOL..
now invest..
Luvtradin1...
Sounds like you want in on this one.... I wish you luck... and of course all of us long termers..
IF DAN starts with real PRs... like the Dealers, IMW contracts, our part in AFGP... and Where AFGP is going ... Well... then I think we are all going to be smiling..
Loooong wait... hope the payoff has been worth the wait... another thing.. is most of us here have a much higher cost avg.. than current pricing.. you could be a real winner on a % basis buying down here..
You are so upbeat... you may convince me to nibble... Oh course many here have been that upbeat in the passsst..
nowinvest...
I concur.. it will be AFGP stock..
Sorry if I gave the impression that it was AACS stock.. have to go back and look...Not sure how high we will hit this month.. depends on what else Dan has to PR... BUT once people see the market's reaction to AFGP.. well... Then we could really see a move....I plan to be here to see this one.. it has been a LOOOOOOONG wait...
Now we have to wait to see if the dealership letter of intent happens... AND.... Whatever happens with the IMW portion of AACS...
nowinvest..
Vista...
Hey... I am NOT the enemy here... Dan IMHO(notice the H) Has not really ripped us off yet of anything.. Everyone know that Dan's idea of timing has been off forever.. But going back over time, he walked away from financing and take over deals(the media one) when they played switch and swap at the last minute or the final due Diligence didn't pay off.
I am NOT happy to be here so many years later and down so much money.. BUT I am.. and for the first time in a long time I think we are at a turning point.. HEY.. we can all jump up and down and ask a lot of questions.. but without it in writing WHAT WOULD YOU TAKE AS PROOF?? The PR today said the BOD is going to look at it.. OK... we have to wait.. You can call them and complain.. that is your right.. the PR also said there is a planned stock dividend.. Well again the BOD would have to approve it.. So it is not done either.. and Other than the PR and Dan saying that was his plan to do it I have NO other proof..
So your choice.. stay or sell.. ME.. I am AT LEAST staying and maybe buying more.. Hey.. do as you please... but can you PROVE that we won't be getting any stock for AACS to hold??
Sorry if I upset you... but MY OPINION is that MY OPINION>.. and we will see in a couple of months WHO was RIGHT... I will clearly say you were ... if DAN and the BOD doesn't give AACS stock..
Good luck in this stock...
nowinvest...
Vista...
THINK...THINK... you are wrong... I do THINK we are going to have some ownership in AGFP... 15% or more is what I am EXPECTING... And Before you get the dividend... should help the price of the stock...
I am the most positive on the stock than in a VERYYYY LONG time...I will be shocked not see .02 broken before AFGP goes public...
Actually.... THINKING... of buying more... BUT understand your concern.. I am down $10s of thousands here..
nowinvest...
Can't explain any further..
But the BOD will handle it... I hope... and frankly... I do believe.. I am hoping that we see upward movement in our stock ... IF we do.. then I think others also believe that we will be seeing some benefit from this..
I have learned that sometimes, the cleaner the filing the easier for approval.. Actually, it comes down to how much faith you have in Dan's honesty.. Not his timing(thank goodness..LOL).. And I am sure it would be a long hard fight, but... we have the PRs should we not get it....
I am giving Dan slack on this one... He knows everyone is watching... Many of us have 6 figures plus in this stock, and frankly... will work to protect our investment if we think something is underhanded...
Waiting for a PR on the SEC filing and the stock's reaction..
nowinvest..
AACS/AFGP....Who owns what!!!
Guys...I did it... I got through to DAN!!!!... After reading the filing I was sure I missed something.. OR... we weren't getting any stock... I am far from an expert on SEC filings, but DIDN'T see our 15%!!! ALL OF THE BELOW IS IMHO..NOT ABSOLUTE FACT... BUT IT IS MY TAKE... DO YOUR OWN DD...
Now.. here is HIS take... AFGP owes him a salary for all the work since 2001 that he has done... SOMEHOW?? our money is in that... I THINK since he was OUR CEO and he was "consulting" for this other company it is kind of a FEE that will be paid to "AACS the company" Now I may not have this exact.. But Dan assured me I shouldn't be worried.. After the successful filing of the 10SB... This would all be part of a Board Of Directors Action in the near future.... NOW... AGAIN only my take... but DAN the man... has already been taken care of in all the stock he has as part of the filing.... Lets hope this is somewhat correct.. At some point after that there will be some type of PR..
While our leader hasn't always been on time... And had some deals go south(sometimes that has been good)... He IMHO... hasn't really sold us out thus far... so.. I am willing to give him some time to .... SHOW US THE MONEY... on this one.. You all have to decide for yourselves.. And always the chance I missunderstood Dan.. BUT I have a lot of money into this so I hope I got it right.. LOLOLOL...
As always he was upbeat.. extremely happy that the FILING finally happened.. He also said that IMW and Chariot aren't standing still.. and are producing products!!!!
Hopefully we have TURNED THE CORNER ON THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!
nowinvest
Anyone noticing the match trading...
Since 14:47... soon after every red trade there is a buy equal to the shares"sold".. don't know if I should call this double printing in the Grey world.. but usually good sign when the double is an UP rather than a down...
we will see...
Imahustler...
His interpertation... and Just maybe HIS INTENT??