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" But....Years later....and nothing really happening."
"You can't say with any honesty that anything 'is happening' either!"
Correction. Actually I can.
to post that "nothing is happening" Is incorrect as evidenced by the May 5 post of application for 4 new patents.
Something ... something is happening. Maybe it isnt what you want but it is something. To saying "nothing is happening " isnt true.
Yes it is fair to say something ( anything) is happening. Its not what you want...yet.
To say there have been no clinical trial since 2007 is, I suppose, accurate (I dont know when trials ceased). Its also true that from 2014 nothing has happened unit 2019. With good reason. Montano and the other cockroaches have had Venturis in litigation. If I were running a company and there was a chance of the former CEO hijacking my company, I would not have put a penny in trials either. No rational person would.
So the "why no trials", "why no relist" IMO are the wrong questions. My hope ( which is not a strategy) is based on limited knowledge but valid reasoning.
The reason there is some hope is money.
The right questions are:
how much has team Wallen / Gordon put in fighting the 78 yr old fat bankrupt?
Does Wallen understand sunk cost? Then would he spend money on lawyers to fight over the office furniture?
I dont know Wallen or what he has in Venturis but I suspect his upside potential in resuscitating Venturis is WAY WAY more than trying to recover money from a 78 yr old bankrupt.
I remain hopeful... with good reasons
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Why sink money into clinical trials when a court could strip you of the investment?
So it’s not 6 years (2014). It’s less than 2 (Jan 2019).
In the last 18 months, patents have been filed, change of company name ( which is huge to shed all the Montano excrement that was on Cvbt), continued to pursue litigation ( finish sending Montano and the other cockroaches to the darkness.
You can’t say with any honesty ( short supply on this mb) that nothing is happening. Last update to website news page was May 5 2020.
Everybody wants it relisted. Me too. It delisted in 2011 or 2012? The problem is not with Wallen and Gordon.
I remain hopeful with good reasons. You go long
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Alas??? Dead?? forlorn???
Hmm. I suppose it is possible but the question is,
"Why all the litigation over a dead company?"
The likelihood is there's value in the IP, now in the form of patents. What's the number, 9 or 12 patents with another 40 odd in application?
I find it hard (impossible) to believe that people with the substantial money (accountant , lawyers, business acumen) of Wallen dont understand sunk cost. If his investment was lost, Sunk, why not walk away and file criminal charges against the former CEO? Why fight all the involuntary BR? If the company was dead and cost were sunk any businessman/accountant/lawyer would tell you forget it you're wasting your money and you'll get nothing in return.
That didnt happen. Both sides spent substantial money fighting for ownership. It's not likely they were fighting over the office furniture.
Why Sink money in clinical trials if a court could strip it from you?
It was open/subject to a court judgement unit Jan 2019. Montano lost..every time!
If you are the major stockholder (Wallen) in a company (Ventuis) that has been idle pending litigation and you win, Would you then just let it evaporate?
IMO, the questions raised on this mb are always the wrong ones.
I remain hopeful with reason. You go long
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All days ahead are brighter and better because DM is not part of the company
In the near future ( sooner the better) contributors to the msg board are going to fall silent. Looking forward to that day. Until then the obfuscation will continue. Image how many calories are consumed and how few burned when sitting at a PC posting on a msg board of a company that no longer exist (CVBT). How many key strokes does it take to burn the calories in twinkie or a Hoho?
C55H104O6+78O2 --> 55CO2+52H2O+energy
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Double big news imminent.
Insult to/as part of self inflicted injury.
Wisdom all men should learn (preferably before 78 yo)
At some point, in life every man steps on his blank,
but you don’t have to grind Your heel.
Sounds like the 95% kicking Fat one to the curb got in some peoples kitchen.
I’m not bothered in the least about some meeting.
But I not in the 5%
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Sad.sad.sad. Pathetic really. Clearly Venturis has value as evidenced by the court cases. The Fat one ruins it and is out in the cold. Desperately trying to make something when everything has been lost. 420m to zero.
Sad.very sad. Pathetic really.
news to me. I'll try to keep up. Thanks for posting.
Oct 2019, updated Nov 2019
trial begins Dec 2020
Am I reading this correctly?
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'good news' for stockholders?
Dan Montano has no involvement with the company.
Is shittya on Snap?
Asking for a friend
Other priorities dude. Other priorities.
First Venturis gotta rid itself of idiot DM and his troop to maintain control of the IP. Thats been holding up progress for yrs. That process began to be resolved in Jan 2019 with the judges ruling. Since then all the rulings have been won by Venturis.
Why spend time on media? You act like moving the lawn (soical media) is important when the house is on fire (IP and patents).
Its all good news for the stockholders. Social media means zip.
Priorities dude. Priorities.
Or maybe it’s because it doesn’t matter. The things that matter are:
Beat the involuntary bankruptcy charge. DONE!
Keep the company moving forward, establish patents. DONE!
Get investors in line. DONE!
Have outside review of company value, CBIZ. Done!
Social media campaign. What? NOBODY CARES About a social media campaign.
What does it mean? Not a thing.
The investors I know don’t do research on social media.
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Thank you JB2001.
Exactly. This.
The science has not changed. The company has only improved upon the data. Added pre-clinical information. Licenced data from Merck.
As I said before. Multiple reputable investment banks have valued CVBT in the billions. The only thing ever preventing that was previous mismanagement
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I get the company, since the beginning, has been a trainwreck of monumental proportions. Question: Were the benefits of the FGF-1 protein with regard to the heart, angiogenesis, pressure ulcers and decubitus ulcers, etc lies too? What about the German trials showing people at deaths door active and doing well? What about the 3 week timeframe for complete closure of bed sores? This is why I got behind CVBT in the first place. Dan Montano was a blowhard but the results seemed real...what about Peter Jennings? Was he lying too?
I forgot to add .. (SARC)
You forgot to mention the stellar media and social media campaign Shittya has. It’s awesome. Don’t believe me? Sit through a blue hair pitch. It outshines timeshare properties presentations.
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If you got questions, you should call GGordon. He is busy but he always gets back to me. We talked last week. There is progress. He can give you the details. He didnt mention the former leadership. There are better topics and good things coming into view.
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Yep. Lost it all. Con man Dan is loser so bad, he could tear up an anvil.
He could mess up a turd.
You get the idea.
He served one purpose, he drove the company to such depths that I could invest. I’d invest more if I could and when it relist, depending on how it opens, I’ll buy more.
Biotech sector with giant upside potential in a bear market. At 21 it’s a fair price. Anything less is under value by sector or comparison. Show me other options I’ll give’em a fair look.
I keep seeing post of no trials since 2007.yeah... so?
What is more important is Jan 2019, conman Dan has case thrown out.
Look at VT website for what’s happened since Jan 2019. Then ask one question,
If You had millions of shares (fla, Gordon, Waller) and you can make Billions if you work at it. What would you do?
I’m all in.
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VT news on website up dated to include new Press Release announcement for 4 new patent submissions.
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5d929ea754fd0f4955087956/5eb46d5847df2f13bad9f36d_Venturis%20Press%20Release%205-5-20%20Final%20V5.pdf
I signed the NDA and received the valuation docs.
Thank you for setting this up Doc.
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Common sense?
1. Why bother to oust Montanto and cronies, if there was nothing to win?
Answer the IP and cvbt are potentially worth it
2. Why pump and dump when you got millions vested and only get chump change
to dump?
Answer only if the IP and CVBT is completely worthless. If it
has any potential value you'd work to recover loss and or turn a profit
3. Why defend cvbt against zitty?
Answer, Again there's (potentially) gold in them IP hills.
4. Why go to a msg board to talk trash about a discontinued penny stock?
Answer, axe to grind. missed the train. Made major mistakes of
judgement, Sitting at home with nothing to do but wait on next court
session... to lose again.
5. Is CVBT worth $5/share?
Answer, its worth what anyone is willing to pay for it, which is
subjective.
6. IS CVBT worth $5 / share and a $1.5b compnay? Has the balance sheet
been corrected ? Is CVBT $35m in the red? Is Wallen and team crooks?
And What about Naomi (non germane soap opera reference)?
Answer I don't know.
OBJECTIVE FACTS, (Things we all know)
Previous leadership took a $1.8 billion company to nearly zero.
Current leadership (Wallen, Flaa, Gordon and stock holders) wrested control from the incompetents. For that alone they have the confidence of this stockholder. If they pump and dump ... God Bless'em
The current leadership has millions of shares of CVBT stock. IF they can get an FDA approval, their investment will be in B range.
Disclaimer: I got nothing in this game but stock. I dont know and have never met previous or current leadership. Im obviously not a seasoned investor and know nothing about the biotech field. I'm either naive or just hopeful. I would think it is better to light candles than curse darkness.
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The world must construe according to its whits.
No. But i did see the CVBT presentation last updated dated Oct 22. Very Impressive
And i saved a bunch of money by swithcing to Geico
In response to the post about funds, crooks and CEOs, ... doesnt common sense indicate any funds at cvbt for the last 5 years or more have been coming in and not going out? IF the coffers were raided what would the raiders get? a few pounds odd and a ten pence.
Also wouldnt common sense indicate the 333 million stock ( majority stock holders current CEO) would much rather purse getting the company productive and make Billions rather than scramble in court over the chicken feed that is company assets?
Never met current or former CEO and couldnt pick'em out of a line up.
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Before everything is concluded Dan will face criminal prosecution.
I got this circled on my Calendar. Everyone on this board has heard about this for blah blah blah.
What are the potential outcomes at this point:
postponed
resolved against
resolved for
thrown out
settled out of court
Are there other options?
What are the likelyhoods?
AM I correct in reading the phase I of the spinal cord is to be complete in OCt 2019 or dec 2019?
I'll give'em benfit of the doubt because the previous leadership.
That said I'd just as soon rather not hear another, "IPO in Q1 or Q2!". That was posted in 2016 and again just recently, "IPO in Q1 or Q2 of 2020!".
I'll rejoice when it happens. I cant let it ruin my sleep.
I called CVBT and got a return call. I was inquiring because I have a close relative diagnosed with Parkinson 4 or 5 years ago. She is currently in her mid 30s.
Adam returned my call and said, "our parkinson's program right now is not ready for clinical trials. If you want to inqure in about a year and a half we might have some more information at that point. Call if you have other qustions but a lot of the information we have is confidential."
The biggest limit or danger to this investment is any government run healthcare or control / limits / price controls on drug companies. The new managment has a plan and motive to gain value for the stock. Time is not on our side. It will be two more years (just a guess) before this stock can relist. If they do so before completion of trials and getting products , medicines marketable, the stock price is too low and raising money not possible. That magic $3 number that has been tossed around means the company is a $1 billion dollar valuation ( 300plus million shares). Does anyone belive this company can turn a profit? Much less be worth a billion?
Maybe but not likely. Give it 2 years and some pattents and products and a way to make profit and that $3 share price has a chance.
I liked what was said at the meeting , this company is an incubator. I like that idea. Its not about one discovery but being a place to advance discovery for medicines and procedures.
Just my thoughts. I have no knowledge of the medical field, drug companies or investing. Just what little I have picked up on my investment (100k shares). Praying it becomes a relisted company that provides value, thus is of value.
I can answer the 1st question and I have zero contact with anyone a cvbt. The stock is not relisting this year. Common sense should tell us that unless trials have been completed and there is a product ready for market a relisting of the stock at $3 dollars would be a fire sale and the price would quickly become a dime. Then try to move the company forward with the stock diluted and devalued.
not relisting this year and not concerned
I do hope there is some announcement concerning trials.
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The more I consider the negative post on here, the angrier I get. The negative post on here serve what purpose? Fear? If we let the nay Sayers on here convince people to sell as soon as the stock relist (if it ever does) we have done all a disservice.
Why the whining? Because..
This stock has been sidelined for 8 years? so.
It’s being run by crooks? Not true and even if it is, so what? The crime was committed by the previous admin. So far we got no reason to change horses again.
There's nothing here, so get back your investment. Sell while you can? stupid.
For 8 years it has been dormant or dead. Have I gone hungry cause my money was tied up in cvbt stock? No. If I lose it all will I miss a meal? No.
Then why listen to trash talk ( which by the way has yet to become reality or be verified) and dump your stock at the first opportunity? Because of a bunch of nervous nellies? I feel sorry for you if you do. I don’t know at what price it might relist. I care that there are actual medicines and benefits for patients. If any of the patents and medicines become realities, dumping your stock because of some trash talk on a msg board is foolish. A msg board didn’t get me to buy stock. Why would a bunch of fool post on a msg board get me to dump my stock?
Pray for the best for the medicines and procedures and those that benefit from them. It’s the best interest of people in need of medical help. It’s the best interest of the company and therefore the best interest of all stock holders. Maybe that’s where all the trash talk is coming from, people who no longer can benefit cause the train has pulled out.
God bless the board and I pray they can be forthcoming with some information to silence the Nancie’s.
I’m talking it up. not running it down
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I think what I posted was mistaken for a jab against the current leadership and their efforts. Nothing is more incorrect. I am thrilled with the new leaders and Crime man Montanto is gone. The current leadership has righted the ship and there must be something of value else these vultures and their attorneies would not be wasting money. This thing aint dead.
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Question, Why the lawsuits? If this thing is dead with only the bones left for the buzzards to pick, why spend money on lawyers to bring yet another suit against CVBT? Okay lets say someone has a legit claim. Why waste effort if there is nothing there? Even so, you wouldnt bother unless there is something there to lay claim to. I suspect there is something there (value) of some kind or else folks would walk away and chalk it up to life lesson and money lost. How much value is the unanswered question. Or is that any potential to get on the train, which has already left the station, is worth it because potential value? Significant value? Or is an attempt to impede CVBT at all cost? Some lawyer money is worth it for spite or vengence. If you have the money or... there is money to be claimed if CVBT relist another law suit is worth giving it a shot.
Praying for the best for all (rightfully) involved. Praying for medicines to treat illness.
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I had July 8 marked as , hopful good new from CVBT. What is AGM?
https://ih.advfn.com/stock-market/NASDAQ/nightstar-therapeutics-plc-ads-NITE/stock-news/79392124/nightstar-therapeutics-shares-surge-on-biogen-deal
I saw this on the ticker. Like Sgt Schultz I know nothing, So Im asking questions.
Nightstar Therapeutics shares surge on biogen deal. $15 to $25....
Does anyone know of a comparable company / senario for us (CVBT)?
I've seen posted here that CVbt has patents and that they are of a type that will have broad appeal / demand. How many patents? (25?)
"Announcements in coming weeks"
announcement Of what? patents? starting new trials? completing trials that have been ongoing?
How many trials have been ongoing thru the new leadership the last 3 to 4 years? ( thanks to the new leadership for making that happen).
more detail.
I think someone posted "meat on the bone soon"
can anyone provide answers these questions and or timing for these announcements?
thank you
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thank you beachbum. So at $3 a share & 328M shares = 984m ( 16m shy of $1B).
correct. So the equity dilution is a factor but as was previously stated something is way better than nothing.
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"The average biotech buyout went for 12 billion last year".
Can you provide a source for that statement?
Bet ya.
Anyone care to wager on conviction? I know nothing of this case and didnt even read the public post. Fraud is very hard to prove ( guilty or not).
I say not guilty. Anyone?