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Williams Companies (ticker: wmb) is a $16 bil gas company.
Some people are speculating news during trading hours. In the afternoon, news become less unlikely, so they bail. Nothing to worry about.
yeah yeah yeah big find, except it was posted twice already, do people read other people's posts at all ?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=17676769
"One of the main problems with USSE is the cost of the feedstock, including the social cost of burning food "
Not true,
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070202/20070202005425.html?.v=1
"we now have the ability to produce ethanol using energy from cow, pig, and chicken waste as well as forestry products, giving us an insatiable supply of non-food wastes to be converted into fuel."
Using other feed stocks rather than soybean may not yield high quality fuel, but waste to energy by Rivera process is definite viable.
Biofuels that go beyond ethanol
dynamotive got a mention, usse might be the next to be in the media.
Calm before the storm.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/07/news/economy/biopower/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote
The corn-based fuel gets most of the buzz, but don't overlook other players in the biopower business.
By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.com staff writer
March 7 2007: 2:45 PM EST
LAS VEGAS (CNNMoney.com) -- Ethanol may be the hot topic when it comes to plant-based power, but it's certainly not alone in the biofuels arena.
There are a host of companies trying to cash in on the push towards renewable energy using different biopower technologies.
While ethanol has been criticized for using food crops as fuel, and for requiring a lot of energy to create an power source that pollutes only a little less than gasoline, a Canadian company believes its "bio oil" can provide power without those disadvantages.
Using wood chips normally discarded from sawmills and other businesses, Vancouver-based Dynamotive (Charts) employs the decades old technology of pyrolysis - heating organic materials without oxygen - to create fuel.
Dynamotive's spokesman Nigel Horsley, exhibiting at a renewable energy trade show in Las Vegas Tuesday, said the difference now is that his company uses a patented process to do pyrolysis quickly and under extreme heat. The technique separates the carbon from the fuel, reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Horsley said the charcoal-like carbon can then be used as a fertilizer, and the gas produced is recycled back into the system to burn the wood chips.
Uses for Dynamotive's "bio oil" are currently limited to home heating and electricity generation; it's unlikely that it will ever be used in automobiles.
While Dynamotive is far from profitable and relies on incentives to sell the electricity from its small, experimental power plant in Ontario to a local utility, Horsley still believes the heating fuel is competitive with oil, even at $30 a barrel.
Dynamotive isn't the only company eying wood chips as a fuel source. Cellulosic ethanol, a nascent but promising technology that uses any type of plant matter, could also use trees and brush.
The Price Companies, an Arkansas firm that runs wood chipping operations for paper mills, set up a booth at a renewable energy trade show for the first time ever Monday.
"It's going to catch on, and we want to be there when it starts," said Claude Yearwood, a Price manager.
Yearwood said Price currently has 19 chip mills in the U.S., and the average cost to set one up is around $12 million.
None of Price's plants are supplying renewable energy outfits yet, but Yearwood is confident the business will pick up. "I think it's going to be overwhelming," he said.
The production of biofuel often results in the production of biogas, a potential pollutant which is also being put to use as an energy source.
Stepping in to capture that market is Capstone Turbine (Charts), a California-based manufacturer of small turbines that match the scale of many biofuel operations.
Alternative energy: How to bet
Capstone's products generate electricity off of gas generated from sources like landfills, wood chips and animal dung, among others.
"We throw away so much in America, it's silly not to get energy out of it," said Doug Demaret, a Capstone spokesman.
Demaret said the equipment generally costs about $1,000 for every kilowatt hour generated, or about $200,000 to $300,000 for a whole system, on average.
One challenge for Capstone, which like Dynamotive is also not yet profitable, is finding banks to back its projects, Demaret said.
That leaves much of the funding left to venture capital firms, which often insist on a higher stake in the project.
"That can take the economics from being a two year pay-back to a seven year pay back," he said.
"but didn't sign a contract"
Do we really know that ? Do we know that he won't ?
I think the following indicates they are going to use usse's technology,
"Dr.Radhamés Lora, whom I consider an excellent choice to be the man to lead the future
expansion of your project towards Latin America's bio-fuels potential markets. "
"How many people write letters to explain the company's process to the company ? "
He was not just explaining the company's process, he was making comparison with other pyrolysis processes. I find the letter very useful, especially the part that describe how that Doc couldn't accomplish the things JR has done. I am going to run the numbers when I have time.
When the sentiment is negative, everything is bad. Not long again, when a Wildlife Ecologist described what he saw, some people complained he was not qualified. Now we have a person who seems to know what's going on and we got some people complain "to explain the company's process to the company ? "
When price is low, good is bad.
When price is high, shit smells good.
Maybe that's how msg board works.
Investment Booms in Clean Energy Field
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070306/clean_energy_trends.html?.v=2
Venture Capital Investment in Clean Energy Reaches All-Time High of $2.4B
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Venture capital investment in U.S. companies developing alternative energy technologies more than doubled last year to an all-time high of $2.4 billion as high oil prices caused investors to seize on the promise of ethanol and other biofuels, a research firm said Tuesday.
But it remains unclear whether the stream of investment dollars that flowed last year to companies developing solar power technologies, ethanol plants and energy efficiency systems was a temporary boom or a sustainable trend, market researcher Clean Edge Inc. said in its sixth annual report on clean energy trends.
"There were many more investors hunting around in the energy tech area" last year, said Rodrigo Prudencio, a partner with San Francisco venture capital firm Nth Power and a co-author of the Clean Edge report.
With oil prices down from last summer's record levels and concerns rising about corn-based ethanol's impact on food prices, "it may be hard to repeat that level of investment," Prudencio said.
Venture capital investments in biofuels such as ethanol and biodiesel surged from $20.5 million in 2005 to $813 million last year, the report said.
And alternative energy producers are looking at other raw materials from which to make transportation fuel. The report highlighted VeraSun Energy Corp.'s plans to make biodiesel from a byproduct of corn-based ethanol.
Clean Edge said the worldwide clean energy market -- measured by revenue -- grew from $40 billion in 2005 to $55 billion last year.
It also projected that the market would grow to $226 billion by 2016, with some of the biggest gains from biofuels, solar power and wind. That rate of growth, the report said, is akin to the growth rates seen in the early days of the computer, wireless and Internet industries.
Part of the reason for the boom in solar and wind power is that Congress is considering limits on emissions of carbon dioxide, a byproduct of fossil fuel combustion that gets trapped in the atmosphere and, in the view of most scientists, contributes to global warming.
"You've got public policy lining up behind clean energy unlike you've seen in the past," said Ron Pernick, a principal of Clean Edge.
The report also noted that retail giant Wal-Mart Stores Inc. appears intent on becoming a "clean energy force," with plans to sell energy-efficient lighting, improve fuel efficiency of its trucks and use solar power.
In addition, the report highlighted utility firms PG&E Corp., FPL Group Inc. and Duke Energy Corp. as companies that are making clean energy efforts a priority.
http://www.cleanedge.com
That's good DD, nice find, no doubt BAC is very interested, and $20 bil is a big number. Financing from BAC would be nice.
Ironic you call yourself "TruthChecker" and you don't know Albert Einstein said "Imagination is more important than knowlege".
Here is a new alias for you: "AssKisser".
And that fool who parted his money is you, oh, I forget, you never had any money. Stupid moron.
Maybe you keep thinking about your barbecue cooking and since you don't see a gas-stove and you get worried ? Did you try to think differently, such as "what do I want to do if I want the temperature inside the tube to be constant and uniform ?" How about a double-layered tube, in between you stuff "heating wires", like the materials in the electric heater in your home. Inside the out-layer of the tube, you use some heat-insulation materials, so little heat is wasted, and the inner-layer of the tube is made of some thin metal that conducts the heat well.
I have no idea what they are actually doing. But just because you can't see a heat source, it doesn't mean it's not there.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" ---- who said that ?
Wow, two minutes after this msg, someone sold 85k shares, now we are down at 0.205. I am not saying there is any correction, maybe this is not.
Frankly the first reaction I got after reading this msg was "sick", felt like someone punched at my stomach.
You have to ask yourself, is this the same CEO who is negotiating 60 GW contracts ? How many individual investors he can entertain ?
Don't feel f right. Just plain f sick going down everyday.
The chart shows maybe we'll form a double bottom around $0.2 and goes up. Hopefully, we'll get some good news this week to confirm that, otherwise, maybe ugly ...
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=usse
"Turn inflation" ? I've not heard that either. Maybe "trim inflation" ?
It's better to "cook or bake inflation" to get some JR juice. -:)
"lower interest rates to curve inflation " ...
So the easier the people can borrow to buy things, the cheaper price they can get ?
This board is full of hilarious people.
BTW, I think you meant "curb", curve is not a verb, and you can't "curve" inflation. LOL
Dynamotive will sell renewable power to the grid at 11 cents per kilowatt hour,or more, for up to 20 years, ...
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070227/20070227006119.html?.v=1
This is very encouraging for usse, if usse can sell at the same rate, 5 gal of fuel can sell for $10.3, not including gas and ash.
"oil will dominate until the wells run dry......and, unfortunately, you and i and all members of this board will be long gone by the time it happens...."
Oh boy, you really need a reality check, even at the current rate of consumption (84 mil barrels a day, 30 bil barrels a year), the world oil reserve, a little over 1 trillion barrels, will only last another 30-40 years. Most people here in their 30's and 40's will see that day.
Plus you don't need to see the last drop of oil dry before you have big problems, as soon as the demand is bigger than the supply, you'll have panic all over the world. A paradigm shift of not depending on oil will take 10 to 20 years, the time to start that paradigm shift is right NOW.
Looks like usse should work closely with "The US National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL)also.
Someone (RD ? ) should edit this Wikipedia page about pyrolysis, and add "Rivera process" there,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis
They didn't say, I read that on this page before, but they have changed the content since I read last time,
http://www.dynamotive.com/english/biooil/applications_future.html
Interesting read,
"A highly desirable method of upgrading BioOil is to convert it to a premium fuel that is fully compatible with existing petroleum fuels. BioOil may be gasified and converted into synthesis gas, bio-based synthetic diesel fuel or bio-methanol via commercial processes. Synthesis gases and/or bio-methanol may be applied directly to SO or PEM fuel cells. Synthetic diesel may be used in conventional petroleum engines. The US National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) is also developing a steam gasification process to generate hydrogen from BioOil."
No way their bio-Oil can be used in cars or trucks directly, but they are doing some research with European companies trying to use their bio-Oil as raw materials to extract fuel from them.
Light years behind usse.
Comparing the market caps, it's like we are seeing "Ford escort is selling for $12,000, and BMW is selling for $8,500".
And we have morons saying "the BMW is too expensive".
We are going to see news like this all year long for usse, Dynamotive also understands the biofuel for transportation is a larger market, and they are trying very hard to improve their "biofuel" to work in diesel and gasoline engines.
Usse's market cap: $142 mil,
dymtf's market cap: $196 mil
Australia's first green waste into biofuel for electricity generation project was approved,
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070221/20070221005331.html?.v=1
They are going to use Dynamotive's fast pyrolysis technology, the owner of plant is Renewable Oil Corporation,
http://www.renoil.com.au/about.html
To all the naysayers about bio-fuel for electricity, it's time to SHUT UP.
VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--A project in Australia to turn Darwin's green waste into biofuel for electricity generation at a mine using Dynamotive Energy Systems Corporation (OTCBB:DYMTF - News) fast pyrolysis technology, has taken a step forward with the approval of the project by the city council.
The environmentally-friendly plant would be the first of its kind in Australia and will be owned and operated by Renewable Oil Corporation ('ROC'), which is the master licensee and is based in Melbourne.
It would convert green waste into greenhouse gas/carbon neutral BioOil fuel, which combusts with far less NOx and virtually no SOx in comparison to conventional fossil fuel. It would be built at the Council's Shoal Bay Waste Facility in Darwin. Excess green electricity generated in parallel with the pyrolysis plant would be fed into the Darwin grid.
Two Magellan 4 MW biofuel fired steam injected gas turbine power plants from Orenda Aerospace Corporation are proposed for remote power generation using the BioOil. These are the same as the OGT2500 Magellan gas turbine used in Dynamotive's West Lorne, Ontario, electricity generating plant, but with the extra power created from steam injection. This remote plant will be purpose-built and operated by ROC.
Dynamotive President and CEO, Andrew Kingston, said "This is very welcome news as Darwin will serve as a model for many cities throughout the world to develop recycling projects for green waste. Avoiding the disposal of large amounts of green waste will be very attractive to many cities as it will eliminate the creation of methane, a far more potentially harmful greenhouse gas. Our BioOil will also replace diesel fuel which would otherwise have been used to produce the electricity."
Mr. Kingston said he understood there would likely be additional planning and approval steps, but with such a strong endorsement from the city council, he said he was optimistic the project would progress satisfactorily through them also. "The Council already has a strong focus on waste reduction and recycling at its Shoal Bay site," he said.
In a company news release referring to ROC on October 3, 2006, he had said the first Australian BioOil production facility would be built in 2007 and become operational in 2008. "It appears we are still on target for this to happen."
Renewable Oil Corporation CEO, Colin Stucley, said Darwin was an ideal place to build the plant. "Darwin has a combination of things, such as the strong environmental policy here to enhance the environment and benefit the community. That makes our job easier. Darwin already has a well run green waste collection scheme. There are mining companies in remote parts of the Territory that already use diesel generators for electricity. Our dedicated remote power plant using BioOil will give them a competitive alternative with major environmental benefits."
About Dynamotive
Dynamotive Energy Systems Corporation is an energy solutions provider headquartered in Vancouver, Canada, with offices in the USA, UK and Argentina. Its carbon/greenhouse gas neutral fast pyrolysis technology uses medium temperatures and oxygen-less conditions to turn dry waste biomass and energy crops into BioOil for power and heat generation. BioOil can be further converted into vehicle fuels and chemicals. Construction progress at the new Guelph plant may be seen by viewing photographs regularly posted on the company's website at www.dynamotive.com.
About Renewable Oil Corporation
ROC is an Australian company established to develop pyrolysis projects in this region. It has an exclusive technology licensing agreement with Dynamotive Energy Systems Corporation of Canada, and works closely with Dynamotive and its partners. ROC has been established in cooperation with Enecon Pty Ltd, an award-winning Australian engineering company that has specialised in bioenergy technologies and projects since 1998. ROC's board includes personnel from Enecon and Dynamotive as well as experts in corporate governance and legal and financial issues. ROC is a private company funded by investors in Australia, Canada, and Europe. www.renoil.com.au.
I think you meant "you are losing the rational ..." and someone was accusing my English. LOL, "quite intelligent" ? Too bad I haven't been able to detect one bit of it. All I see is one liar, but pretty bad one.
In the first CC, JR said the main reactor of the 4 reactor modules cost $4 mil, but the cluster of the 4 cost $5 mil, that means the less important 3 reactors cost only 1/3 mil each. Do you know what the main reactor has the other 3 don't have ?
Also it's plainly wrong to assume that if the main one takes one month to build, then rest of the three would take another 3 months.
No doubt about that, just look at how many new bashers showed up lately, some people really don't like ussp and are waging a cyber-warfare.
That board was newly created (Feb. 21, 07), it has this really offensive picture against usse and sstp. This kid sold his soul to pay for his tuition, poor b*st*rd.
How much money you can afford ? I don't mind taking money from your parents, don't be a f coward. I am playing real thing here, $50k is too much for you, how much you can afford to lose ? let's do the real thing, how much you want to bet ? How about $30K ? If you are so f sure, why not let me provide your tuition for a year by losing the bet to you ? You can borrow from your friends/parents to put the money into the escrow account !
Come on, coward, get real.
This message of yours just simply shows one thing, you take very opportunity to lie, but why u are so dumb that you lied about things people can verify in 2 seconds. All your messages to me can be found here,
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?user=64600
Just show me where you asked the questions ? where is your question of "color/animal/people" ? and where is your question of "co-schools" ? I never agreed to take any questions from you, even you offered to play a 3rd grade foolish trick on me.
Spending $30k mommy's money and waste your time by being stupid ? I am telling the mommy. Now, time for you to change the diaper.
He is just a moron who doesn't anything. First he couldn't find bios of the Alcorn people, than I showed him those were already posted before by me. Then he smeared usse and Alcorn people in his own dark corner "THE DISSENT". Later he questioned my credential, and I challenged him with $50k wager (put into an escrow acct.) on my credential. He cried mommy, wet his pants and deleted most of my messages there.
This is just an ignorant dummy who doesn't know where he stands.
Frankly, I think Z should just simply delete all his messages here. He doesn't deserve a single reply. What do u expect from someone who can't go around within an university website, yet kept talking about academic credential ?
He must think his big two years learning experience in his own backyard made him some sort of academic guru. Right, about his own stupidity.
well, I have noticed something I can't explain, in the following message,
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=17347961
You wrote "No I didn't see any potential customers. I did see one from Alcorn Univ getting some video footage. I was not there for that long though. I plan to return in couple of weeks."
The people from Alcorn Univ stated that there were there on Feb. 13, (bottom of page 1)
http://www.ussec.us/content/alcorn_state.pdf
So I don't understand why you met some Alcorn person during your Feb. 22 visit while they were there on Feb. 13 ?
Maybe Alcorn people were there again on Feb. 22 ? Maybe you were there also on Feb. 13 ? Maybe the person you saw were not from Alcorn Univ. ? I don't know, I am not drawing any conclusion here.
Ron9, which Thursday you have been there, was it Feb. 22, or Feb. 15 ?
I think you better stay with your INRA, good performance there, only down 99% from its 2003's high, good jugdement, congratulations on your nice pick.
Bye Bye.
It's not ethanol and it's not cold fusion, u need to learn more first. And don't ridicule my English, I know the difference bwtween "to" and "too". I was in a hurry. Maybe you are TOO ignorant to learn anything new.
Yeah, I have a PhD in applied physics from an Ivy League school, what do u want ?
It showed where they got the BS, MS and PHD's in what fields, what more you want to know ? where they went for elementary schools ?
Get a life and get lost.
Just because you can't find the bios, it doesn't mean they don't exist, go to my message 29817 and there is a link connecting to all the faculty's bios.
cheating_dung_eater
I can tell your manure eating habit is having an effect on your poor brain, you think you can just randomly throw out numbers and fool anyone ?
Stanton has 225 million shares of usse,
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061214/20061214005642.html?.v=1
Not 500 mil you lied about, you bold face liar.
From your very first post, I know you are a low quality basher/liar , I don't have time to go through all of them, just look at your own first post,
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15499524
"Revenue 5 gal biofuel x $.23,737 fertilizer 25 lbs x $.05
biogas 5 gal x $.14."
Are you really that stupid ? You think anyone else will measure gas in gal because you take your own dirty gas in gal ?
Now, get lost, you are not worth of my time.
rebel_lad, I suggest you change your alias to cheating_lad, becuz you lie in almost every of your posts.
Stanton doesn't own "500mm" shares of USSE.
You are a very low quality basher. I would have fired you long time ago if I were your employer.
wow, what's happening ? Bashers, new and old, are crawling all over the kitchen floor.