Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
He was also quite clear in oliver post that what he said was taken out of context for meaning. It was also clearly stated in post from another what dilution was being used for. Both post were after the initial comment til profit. Therefore that is called clarification and correction of your post. Sorry I am not the one who choses to read what i want to see.
How many times does it need to be repeated. Steffans supposed post (that the statement dilution will continue til profitable) was taken out of context and since the original person who stated that never posted the actual Steffan post.. it is nothing more than heresay to spread more crap. Post 42119 shows where Steffan said it was taken out of context and post 40717 states the reason for dilution at that time. The regurgitation of misfacts in capital letters or implied knowledge is laughable.
Just looking at it from a new person who comes to board to get a feel for the stock with interest to buy. If you just came to board you would think twice about buying if a newbie. We need new eyes to help move this up! Not saying the board controls the stock.
Stock only started to tank once we got delay after delay of fins with extreme negative narratives.
I do agree it all has to do with our choices. If we choose not to under bid and hit ask the shorts will be shorted and weeded out sooner and the stock will then go up. I also agree that MM playing games back and forth and EOD walk downs are old and are killing the pps share as well at the moment.
As far as note holders cashing in; at this point that is another assumption as to why the dilution is occurring. It is happening to some degree but they aren't the only ones cashing in.
I wish to God we all knew what the reality is but until 10k and q released here we sit. I just hope they actually hire a professional Brand marketing communication specialist that understands the importance of company transparency. Cause when the 10k and q are released they are going to need someone to keep momentum going northward. GLTA
Geez.. this board lives to find negative controversy in everything. If I was a newbie I would move on without hesitation with all the b.s here. No wonder pps down. Steffan had a better opportunity and moved on. That's all.. that's life.
Yes, the damn fins are extremely beyond late. They tried to out a Pr to calm fears but again received with 1 day of euphoria and then dragged down by returned negativity and games being played.
Some bought in hard based on what we know as well as a hard pump by Tog. I refer to his confirmation of 100% investor is now on board June 21st convo among others. I also saw a BOA rumor in last month or so that Fles was given a new friendly loan. We also know supposedly a few longs have dropped massive shares. So is it all dilution ..NO! More than likely they are dropping high $ pps hoping to buy back low to offest loss when it goes back up. But even when self admitted massive shares being sold by SH's cries of total dilution still continue and down we go. Again..no proof just speculation. I do hope that Jack is a better IR than Steffan was. He was vague and scattered at best but atleast he was responsive.
All I can say imo is that there is alot of shorters here working the odds to bring this down for their own gain. Just look at the not so subtle bold post ones or the implied we will see .01 soon. And its working because the longs in the hole are frustrated rightfully so and chime in with conspiracy theories. I understand the frustration and agree with action being taken but as long as this occurs verbally on this board we're are playing into the shorters and MM manipulators hands.
I am here long because i still see red as well and I want my green back plus. I do think Chris has a viable company. Tim is another story but If 100% investor is on board and they DO have new clean loans for infrastructure even with dilution for infrastructure growth we all have shot!! And no proof has been provided to say it hasn't. Just speculation not facts!!
I will say I am done buying at the moment and not selling. If I buy I hit the ask.
If you truly want this pps to move north ..all will do the same and quit under bidding. Or just stop buying period til the fins come out!
Afterall we are all here to make money and not to contribute to each others losses. Well maybe some more than others depending on your strategy!.. Glta!
thanks!
Where are you seeing that on L2. Not showing up om mine.
Yup right along with the few who have been shorting the stock daily and walking it down!
pff ..why should they be in a hurry? Everyday posters keep posting how they are undercutting the ask and willing to buy more volume of shares the next day at a lower price. All hail the cheapies. They will keep bleeding this down with the your help.
Im done feeding into this and if you all want to see the 10k and 10q I suggest you all do the same. Enough is enough. Either hit the ask to stabilize or quit buying. This sh$t show will never end otherwise...and your precious shares you got today will be at .006 in less than a month with still no fins released. I just hope this turns around for the ones who are in much deeper than I am. GLTA!
I have seen that implied by other posters but where in writing from Chris was that? Please post..
haha..too funny. Nothing New here. That profile page has been that way since ce was put there months ago. I might add way before you showed up on this board posting about the stock.
Thanks again for your efforts. Time for mental break from this zoo. Enjoy the 4th!
Maybe it is just perception of how you think Chris views things. Motorheads are usually hands on people. They base things on what they see. Chris has worked hard to build his company up before yrs before Tim. He is in charge of sales and growth which he appears to be working hard at. Pr's have verified that by small business add ons ect. and audited fins. More than likely he probably believes if he is successful then the company stock will grow in value as his company does. He sees where it is going and not worried. But I do agree with the games, MM, shorter and retail manipulators are playing a huge part in this down stock price. Someone is constantly trying to walk this down and opinions with implied accusations doesn't help either. But to each his own. Just don't see how that helps the pps. I am not a happy camper about any of this but I am not selling if for any other reason than Chris has done nothing but prove this companies potential. I just hope he steps up to protect his hard work and company he is building by getting Tims a$$ in line. One can only hope!
Current email for Tim is:
tarmes@The4LessGroup.com
that was on the small business pr 5/24 release. He is just slow at changeover apparently as with everything else. Don't think there is a conspiracy here just a new business with lots of potential and inexperience ceos with what it takes paperwork and timewise to bring a company public when mergering.
I agree.
In the small business PR says Chris Davenport President and CEO.
All fin filings show Tim as CEO. Guess they share titles of separated divisions of sale and finance with Chris being President of all 4Less. Have to go back to initial merger filings for clarification i guess. But I know I read that changes were made in final merger with Chris as majority share holder who controls the company. In a older PR Tim stated the changes made sense since Chris knows the auto parts business way better than he does on a daily bases. Or atleast I think he did or maybe Tog just stated it. It was one of the 2.
Read somewhere that received a large friendly non toxic loan from Bank Of America for expansion.
Fact remains we don't really know who is out or in on this board. So much crap gets spewed on here. What better way to stop the mudslinging and implied insider violations being thrown his direction with misdirection.
Longer than i care to admit. Not in denial just don't think the sky is falling here either. Best of luck to you where ever this goes..lol!
I agree with the about company dilution just not the reverse split direction
There is absolutely no bases or facts to that assumption or opinion.. Just more chum to churn the waters and bottomfeed an already low pps.
Thanks Miss and Thrifty for all your efforts here!
On a Positive Note..
There was a May 24th PR release that pretty much got flucked over that proved another stream of highly potential viable income.
Scullcap post via twitter is proof that Fles is adding new small businesses to it site for long term growth.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/4less-corp-launches-small-manufacturer-130000767.html
I hear that. I have averaged down as well. In the same boat; really hoping it doesnt go down that far but if it does I will be doing the same. I am like others tired of putting in just to go down. Still do believe we run after releases but it's the maintaining pps with all the flippers and longs that are fed up who will flee thats gonna be brutal. This will be a slow upward adjustment. Just hoping they put out one heck of a 10q and follow up news to get new masses to the board. If they do that with A/S reduction we will be good both short and long term! Fingers crossed!!
Lol! Not really funny but I can definitely relate. Been there done that!
I believe you have to put a stop buy order in. That way your order fills at that price or higher. Otherwise when order put in on limit at .11 and .10 is offered it will fill at the lower because limit buy is put in as limit price of 11 or lower. Lower is avail so it fills. Thats been my experience Atleast on Td not sure about other brokerages.
Oh please if he honestly thought that he wouldn't be bragging how he can't wait to get in at .04! Lol! Seems like almost all who threated today bought more. Which more than likely was the intention all along to get cheapies
Nothing New Here! Honestly, delayed 10q was no surprise. I have never seen a company release a Q before the 10k especially when completing a merger. Sorry, but if the pps goes down today it will because retailers will be buying into bid or lower capitalizing on the 10q delay! MM will be more than happy to join to cop your shares or short.
The OS increase compared to some with no proven financials is minimal compared to other otc companies. To uplist they also have to have a certain ratio between the AS/OS which it wasn't so that may have a part in the increase as well,imo.
They have filed the proper forms on time and yes they are extremely late on 10k but they are doing their due diligence for the most part except for keeping SH 100% in the loop. But, they are working on it.
We have 2 options today. Buy and sell cheap or Hit the Ask when buying to make newbies pay more to get our shares! I'm hoping its the latter! GLTA!
I just bought more with Td Ameritrade with no problem.
Still kicking myself for not jumping in sooner but did take a position on the low of last week. Looking good here!
Thanks for the clarification on your store request. True different processes will result in more or less thc remaining and stores stock based on what they believe they are promoting. All have different opinions on which extraction is preferred. Kali has registered patents on file as to their process. I don't question the products nor the medical research based on the if it's their process or not because of the registered patents. Agreed, It is the accountability of those results we all want to see.
One store doesn't mean anything. There are lots of other companies who are making products and more than likely the store carries from 1 or 2 suppliers you spoke to and use the co2 process for there products. Doesn't make it inclusive just the opinion of a sales clerk and the product line they carry. If it’s important for you to have certified organic CBD oil, then ethanol-extracted CBD oil is likely the option for you. If you’re looking for a specific flavor or compound profile in your CBD products, supercritical CO2-extracted CBD oil might be the way to go. This would be the only difference. Higher potency vs more flavor.
Ethanol extraction process is NOT being shun by retailers. There are 3 different processes co2, ethanol and hydrocarbon. All have there strengths and weakness but all are safe and one process over the other is not preferred it just depends on the end result your trying to reach when extracting. So the ethanol process is not affecting sales or future contracts. Shorts,delay in financials are causing the issues..imo at the moment. Thankfully no issues with my Td Ameritrade.
Sadly,Your probably right. Just looking for a way for us to stop the spin out on the hamster wheel!
If your gonna buy..hit the ask. Buying into the Bid or lower isn't helping. We are now becoming part of the pps problem. Buying cheapies is costing us all now!
Do believe MM are swapping heavily to drop price as well with fake bid and ask to shake fearful hands. So not all of it is shareholders. Just hope that if this is continued dilution it is still part of the last remaining OS update and not more? Wishingful thinking most likely! I am tired of bs as is everyone here. Im still positive on company potential that is why i have stayed. Can't believe Chris after working so hard would allow his company to faulter but once committed to this process there is no turning back..just have to see it thru as do we who are heavily invested. Learning curve for us all. Tim on the other hand..well time for a Vegas road trip and a promtu stockholder meeting with pitchforks!! Time to release the 10k and 10q. Enough is enough!
Truly hope all goes only positive for you on all fronts! I hear ya about the driving. I am a realtor in sunny Fl and I am constantly yelling hang up your damn phone, watch where ur going and drive!! Lol.
Wow. Best of luck to you for a speedy recovery!!
Time will tell. If i was pump and dump my ass would have been outta here a long time ago. Didn't say i was right but you don't know for a fact i am wrong. If...And i say If Fles books are solid they are a viable company to invest in. Why not JP? They are looking for long term investments. The RM delays and screw ups with taking mcgi to fles doesn't mean company lack value to invest. Why wouldn't they lend to them or invest? Not here to convince people to stay and buy or sell and go. Just trying to figure out another piece of the puzzle and there name keeps popping as a strong possibility of an investor lender.
Reread the post. The first line clearly states a possibility not a fact. Over 6 months ago when this all started. JP name kept popping up as possible investor and it still is. It was also stated somewhere if they were to come on board they might assume all remaining debt to clear the books. If Fles has new money flowing in they shouldn't have to keep diluting. Didn't say they haven't up til now just stating opinion they shouldn't have a need to continue or hope not. Just trying to find a positive in all the negative. My money is just as tied up as everyone elses here.
My opinion is as good as yours in this puddle. Doesn't make you right or me wrong. Time will tell!
Throwing this out there for what it's worth as a possibility. Word on rumor board is JP Morgan is already or coming on board as 1 of the investors. That means clear sailing with clean books, no more dilution because it was proposed that the investor would assume all remaining notes as well with new money.
Granted a PR to this would be nice but depending on uplist; investor may have its own time guidelines of that release after 10k.
Im betting JP Morgan is gonna play a strong role here! It is NOT the first time their name has popped up on FLES radar. With that kind of backing the potential could be huge long term!!
Releasing os info now means they are getting ready to release the rest shortly more than likely!