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Matt, Please give me feedback as to why I have been suspended. I don't know of any transgressions, or don't remember any, that I have committed to warrant this action....Sunpoop
Matt, why am I in the Jailhouse? Curious.
When the sole object of interest was wether or not the gloves fit OJ Simpson then the entire purpose of the trial, his innocence or guilt was lost.
I find myself able to endure lurking on this board by generous use of "Hide this poster" so the only time I read a post from the "naysayers" is when I read a post from someone I respect referring to a post from one of those "naysayers".
When I lurk long enough I have to go elsewhere because 90% of all I read is the ongoing battles between those who, I guess, are determined to undermine what the initial purpose of this board was, "an honest discussion of an investment we are all involved with and wish success for". EDigital....
Their reasons are beyond me but they try awful hard to convince whoever listens to their negative viewpoint. So consequently, "Hide this poster" gets used..I find myself being much more peaceful and less agitated, able to sift the pros and cons from those with an honest purpose in sharing information about the company.
It all boils down to wether or not all of you enjoy talking about "the glove fitting" or guilt or innocence. If its guilt or innocence then "Hide this POster" should be used. These people, as we all know, exist only for your replies to their outragious diatribes, the more outlandish the better...You are playing directly in their plans....
Frank
Run on sentence is fine...wish there was more....With one exception....If all you describe takes place then EDig will be a lot more than $.40 and a lot sooner than 8 months from now...
Frank
Chwdr, How do you do the thingy with you name in color at the bottom of each of your messages....It's very cool....Frank
If shelf shares were given for debt in lieu of cash at $.19 a share do you think its rational to sell those shares at $.15-.16? If the holder of the shelf shares desired to receive funds for what he billed EDig then he probably would have sold those shares at once at $.19. This is what was contemplated for at least a week after those shares were issued and the volume did not support a large amount of shares being sold. I do not think what we saw today were shelf shares being sold.
Cliff, Not that it's worth much but I have always wondered why, given EDig's condition, the PPS has firmly held in the area of $.20. I am still in the LONG, BUY, mold but do agree with you, that the PPS will go lower, simply because there is nothing to keep it up (THAT WE KNOW OF) I have stated in the past that there are reasons, beyond our knowledge, why EDig is not selling for $.05
The fundamentals we know of are there which, if brought to fruition, will create a situation where $.15 will be a figment of our memory. I am betting on the survivalbility of this company. It has come throught a lot worse than this and the "doors are still open"
The projects we know of are in the works and should any one of them, plus the O1K make it, we should be "Happy Campers".
Just my opinion of course, but I hope a reasoned one..
Frank
We have had many days of little or no price and volume action. Today seems different..The price is bouncing around...A significant drop, from the norm, then one trade bringing the price back up..It seems the Ask/Bid price is widening. That is always a sign of something......How about that for an intelligent post...
Buy, all you can afford
Tinroad, I sincerely hope you appreciate the tone in which I say the following::: AWWWWWWWW RIIIIITTTE TINROAD...I have followed you for years and noticed you took a distict "middle of the road" attitude...It sounds as if that has changed..
For me, that's just great.....Keep puncturing those baloons..
Frank
I have no problem with Agora and will be there
I believe I might have been the "first" to spot and disseminate the "seeds of the RB board" taking root here....A few days ago I said, "I'm gone" from here and meant it. I dropped by to "lurk" and now see the destruction here....It's over guys/girls...I don't who or for what reason but we all have allowed him/her to achieve their purpose....IHUB is now RB junior....Too bad the "bosses" here don't have more balls....Or don't they have any to start with....
Lownmba, I just have...
Churak, Greg, I sincerely apologize to both of you for wasteing your time....I vowed I would not do so with any more RB expatriates, but I became weak....Ah human nature.....But I am now resolved, again, to not raising my blood pressure nor, more importantly WASTEING MY TIME on those with closed minds...
Greg, Life IS making judgements...You remind me of people who cannot condemn the September 11th. terrorists simply because WE MUST NOT BE JUDGEMENTAL, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM, WHAT THEIR STORY IS....We must learn all that before we make up our minds......I assume you want your children to hear all sides of why they should take drugs before you tell them to make up their minds...Or could there be something deep inside you that KNOWS.....
Greg, you are p i s s i n g me off. Of course I want to be protected from those who say things I don't want to here if what they are spouting are lies, half truths, twisted facts and completely dishonest with an agenda to create negativity in me and others whom I depend on to make my investment a viable one.
I cannot believe you think that RB is an honest discussion board with give and take for all.....Your post says to me you should be over there because that is where your comfort level is.
Come on Matt, you can be more intellectually honest than that.. I am making an assumption you started this board with the idea of devoting it to an honest discussion of EDig. If so are you telling me you do not have the "grey matter" to decide who is a dishonest, deceitful poster? One who has made 6 posts in the time it takes you to reply to the first one. One who twists facts so YOU KNOW THEY ARE FALSE. (even you have to admit you know a little bit about EDig).
You cannot disassociate yourself from all this, stand above, trying to judge it all, knowing at least some of what you are defending is DISHONEST...
Greg, I am "doth protesting too much" over HONESTY, nothing else.. I find you either misunderstanding my point or have no regards dealing with honesty in your life....If so, ???
Bob Zumbrunner, Tell me, if you prefer to go through life "Expecting the worst from people and you will rarely be disappointed" exactly what good would "SHOW ME" from Missouri be relevant to your life since you WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT ANYWAY. Seems to be somewhat of a contradiction here. I'm not too smart about these so maybe you could explain to dummy just exactly what you mean....
Boy, they crop up with new names every 10 minutes...Soxfan, Churak and whoelse.....My "Hide this poster" lists grows longer.
Churak = Soxfan
Churak, I have attempted to have an honest, intelligent discussion with a like minded person, yourself....This last post of yours blows your cover and shows that no further discussion is warranted but it's useless and above all, NOT HONEST...Sorry to waste your time, or better, sorry to waste my time...
churak, I am a retired stock broker and have ALWAYS made my own decisions in investing my money...Due Diligence is amassing all the pertinent information one can in order to MAKE THAT DECISION. I find quite a bit of that on these boards Too bad you are so "jaded" that you question all the information available here and elsewhere...
Churak, Again you entirely miss the point.....If you consider a positive Edig poster a "hyper" then no further discussion is necessary. You are "Jaded" and my sympathies go out to you living the rest of your life thinking ill of everything....I cannot imagine living without some acceptance of "SOMETHING" that occurs during my daily life.
I KNOW there is a L A R G E difference between 99% of EDig posters who are have invested in the company and wish success for it....and others of the opposite viewpoint. I see no "hyping" being done for a living or to deceive others into buying more or holding "the next, great, Microsoft". I see no "multiple aliases, no extraordinary amount of posts on the same subject, word for word, hour after hour. I do see and feel there are investors in EDig who still believe they have a potential, but risky, good investment and are sticking with it. AND YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM..
BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH THOSE YOU ARE DEFENDING. You cannot accept what they say simply because you don't know if its the truth. YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM and that in my mind is what this whole discussion is all about.
Are you trying to tell me you put a person like Truthorfiction on the same level as a Tinroad for believeable readings??
Mr. Churak, would you rather have an honest opinion posted by a advocate of a particular subject, who you say has an agenda to promote his view of that subject, or would you be content to go throughout life being informed by DISHONEST, LYING, MULTIPLE ALIAS TYPES who's sole purpose is deceit?
As you say "everyone has an agenda"....I prefer NOT to go through life "being Jaded". I find it takes fewer muscles to smile rather that frown...
Matt, I cannot pass on your related message....I understand a board such as IHUB should be open to HONEST discussion. There SHOULD be pro's and con's posted to provide the members, who choose to belong, a broad incite into the topic in which they are interested, in this case EDig..
However, I do believe that you feel "backed into a corner" on the subject of openness. It's a nice theory, "letting everyone have their say", much as its a nice theory to "target little old ladies in wheelchairs" at the security gate when boarding an airplane while letting "young middle eastern gentlemen" pass on through with no check by guards because we must NOT discriminate, or profile them unfairly...
Sounds good but sooner or later it will sow the seeds of destruction.
Honest discussion, YES, but that is where your theory falls apart. The posters you so fervently maintain do nothing but provide us with another, contrary, view are NOT HONEST. They have an agenda and in reading material you have posted I do not understand how an intelligent person as yourself cannot understand that.
It is painfully obvious that this agenda is not directed at informing the rest of us facts we have no knowledge. Lies, half truths, aliases are their stock in trade (why would a poster you so eagerly protect use multiple aliases if not to obfuscate their true purpose in the use of IHUB) What in the h e l l does one have to hide to resort to that kind of behavior?
Multiple posts, often into the hundreds, with the same message but above all the same tenor and tone to their statements all devoted to the destruction of EDig.
AND YOU DEFEND THAT AS NECESSARY?
For what? In my mind the road you walk down is very dangerous if your desire is to maintain IHUB as viable. I have been saying for months that I see the same signs at IHUB that were so prevelant on RB before it turned into what it did.
I am retired. I have lived a good life with one Golden Rule that I have followed that has kept me safe and sound, that being "DON'T SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT"
Matt, you keep going this way and you will be "walking on crutches".
Frank
MOVE TO AGORA....I don't believe Two Mil will allow his board to turn into what Matt is allowing this board to become...If enough of us move there to create the kind of dialogue regarding Edigital that we all want then the "nasties" among us will be a not to fond memory
I'm gone...
Frank
Mr. but anyhow, the Jabra product was invented by Woody Norris, was an UNPROVEN product and there were no funds to market it. A female excutive of Norris Communications, (who's name escapes me) left NCII and with backers formed a company with the express purpose of marketing the earphone device. This new company, Jabra, had monetary backing but the earphone was NOT perfected at that time and it took quite a bit of time to get it to market where it was NOT an instant success.
Not too many customers were knocking the door down to buy the earphone. Woody sold something on the order of 60% (I believe) for what he could get at that time. This was an unknown product with no history, it DID NOT BRING IN BARRRELS OF CASH.
Some YEARS later the remainder of ownership in Jabra was sold to the company, again not for a barrel full of cash.
The Jabra product and company you now see in retail stores has become successful, (I presume) and gone far beyond what Woody had under his control. So to make the ABSOLUTE MISLEADING STATEMENT, that this transaction was worth $40,000,000 IS a
D A M N LIE.. It helped keep NCII/EDig alive. The Jabra company then perfected the product, with much more funding going into it.
I am sorry but I cannot understand people like you. What is your purpose in doing things like this? Don't you have the least little bit of a conscience...If you don't like the company and wish to complain that's one thing, but to make up facts with the sole purpose of sowing seeds of doubt and dissention among those who are invested in EDig is not something my parents brought me up to feel was how to live my life...
You stink....
Frank
Mr Silver...Reason always prevails...but Thank you for not allowing the "nasties" to get out of hand...
Mr. Duke, In theory I agree....However I am seeing EXACTLY the same seeds of destruction here that began to corrupt RB...
Oz, surely....I don't see that kind of a post being any where never prevalent on the board...A little side chit-chat is not only allowed but desirerous....Frank....PS. Mine was an Irish Setter also, 15.....
Ot..Oz....(1) Tinroad, it's his board and the responsibity that goes with it....(2) Hopefully 100% after the poster has proven his irresponsibility...(3)Humor is definitely allowed and wanted...(4) Criterea is a harder rule to nail down...I would suggest that anyone who has multiple alias's on multiple boards could be one, a poster who is ALWAYS negative towards that subject we are interested in, the success of EDig, a poster who continuous posts the same message, always designed to run down EDig, or negative theme every post and does so on all the boards you see him/her on...a poster who posts lies or half truths or designed solely to sow dissention...
I think that's a pretty good start and not harsh or judgemental. That should eliminate at least 99% percent of those whose sole purpose is to do EDig in.
Frank
OT, sky, hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life..I cried for 2 days...My sympathies...Frank
Bomba, "We still have Digitalway's version to look forward to"
I guess that means you have "written off" the O1K...What else can you mean???
Tinroad, I post seldom. Hopefully when I do it's sensable. My sole purpose is the success of EDigital but I am becoming very disinchanted with what I see occuring on IHUB. (I do believe others are also) I remember the "good ole daze" on RB when there was an honest discussion of the latest news from EDig and/or its
connections to the hi-tech world. It slowly changed, as we all know, with a malcontent here, a malcontent there, Not too often but with increasing frequency until it came to a point that I could not believe, I signed on one day and there was exactly one, that's ONE post on the screen. My ignore list of those completely negative people had reduced the readable material to just one person....I was astounded...Now its a completely disagreeable place to go, full only of people who wish to do EDig harm....
The refuge I turned to was this board. It was a breath of fresh air. Yes, there were EDigger's with honest questions...Gripes, criticisms, but the overall tenor was positive with a rare, out and out, "nasty" thrown in...I don't remember ever using the "HIDE THIS POSTER" to ignore a person who's only reason to post was an attempt to dis-spirit me, to lie to me. I use that feature quite often now.
Unfortunately, I am experiencing the same feeling on IHUB now as I did with RB then. (More, much more than a malcontent here, a malcontent there with most being refugees from RB using many, many different names but saying exactly the same things over and over) It's sad but I think in your desire to be "fair" the very reason you started this endevor now puts your good works and intentions in jepardy. I sincerely hope my "IGNORE" list here stays small because if it does I will still be an avident participant.
Please don't let your good works slide into another RB..
Frank
Mr. But...."qualatative and quantative" I sincerely hope you do not plan on living your later life on your stock earnings because I do not believe there will be any.
The economy will improve, and sooner rather than later. The stock market will pick up and I guarantee you that if you wait to "qualatative and quantative" your decision on what to invest in you will be looking in the rear view mirror.
Oz, Neither....Anticipation is what drives the market...You and I have had cocktails and spun a few yarns so I respect your knowledge but cannot see how an investor such as yourself could stay in the market and make money if you only make decisions on stated earnings, and for that matter on revenues. I was a stock broker for many years and I never had a client who informed me he would only buy a stock if he saw the revenues and/earnings...I NEVER did that for my own personal trades either...
You KNOW the daily stock prices are a reflection of future earnings....Sometimes taken out as far as six months. I ask an honest question....Do you think you would make money, lose money, or just break even if you invested the day the quarterly reports were released???
In effect what you are telling me is you would not entertain investing in a so-so company who had recently been awarded a patent for a revolutionary device (shall we say a better mouse trap) until you saw the quarterly report as to its profitablilty. I hate to tell you my friend but by that time all the good pickings would be gone.....Anticipation....The possibilities.....I am not waiting around until AFTER everyone has jumped in.......Just a thought....Frank
Lawyerlong or Daboss, Both of you seem to be on top of this APS thing...It is very confusing to say the least...You know I have been around a long time and have always trusted and looked forward to what the positive future EDig has...Upon reading all that has transpired on this board about the EDig connection to APS for the first time in years I felt a sense of doubt creeping into that sense of trust. Not in the ultimate success that I am positive EDig will obtain but in the veracity of FF and RP...Did they exagerate or downright lie to us about APS.
Then I was made aware that this entire fiasco was purportrated by a poster named Truthorfiction....(I have had that name on IGNORE for many months now so I am unfamiliar with his/her latest) I do know that Truthorfiction's only purpose in posting is to run down EDig, lie, obfuscate, (half truths or fiction)with the hopes, I assume, of doing everything to ruin the company and discourage the shareholders.
Therefore I take with a VERY LARGE GRAIN OF SALT anything eminating from that source. I refuse to believe that APS post until someone can prove to me all that Truthorfiction posted was the truth....Can either of you enlighten me.....I would appreciate any input, Thanks, Frank
I find it very interesting that the ASK never quite gets down to $.19 but sure gets down to $.191 often......THERE HAVE TO BE ONE HELLAVA LOT OF BUY ORDERS IN AT $.19 THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT FILLED...
e.Digital... a little different