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homeboy?
any socalled attack post was in response to attacks on me.
check it out.
You can shove this IHUB crappola where the sun don't shine.
homeboy yourself bud.
SEE YA....WOULDN'T WANT TO BE YA!!!!
Hi Matt.
care to let me know why I am in the slammer? And what is the 'sentence'?
thnx
eamonn Surprised you're not here given....................
the language you use. Nah...I'll keep the info to myself. Nice to know my buddy George picked up some shares. You can tell the WAVX crowd that good stuff is comin' down the pike.
Hey BTW what kind of name is 'eamonn' anyway? Irish?
Hi Matt. Got some important info. pls reinstate me
on the WAVX board. Thnx.
howardjoel
the context of your post makes it sound like ANY company can just walk into Dutton, pay the fee and then get coverage.
It doesn't work that way....sorry to inform you.
xpoint That's Good.Very Good............................
altho a Key is about Opening. Maybe a Vault or LockBox would be better when it comes to 'security'. However, the concept of Trust is one of Openess but one based on SECURITY and COMFORT.
Oh well...it will have something to do with TRUSTED....
kinda fun to guess about!
Weby I have reread your post and I think...................
you are a bit off the mark.
You say 'MSFT will incorporate what Wave has established as a market'. I am not completely sure what you mean by 'incorporate',but I would suggest that mr. Softee will actually be the entity that FINALLY ESTABLISHES the Trusted Computing dynamic.
Of course, Intel and Dell have already been made aware of this and that is why they are postioning themselves NOW rather than later. And also, Dell has realized that Wave is going to be part of the TC market and so that is why Dell has embraced Wave Systems. There is NO WAY Michael Dell would have tapped WAVX without understanding that Wave is gonna be central to the TC marketplace. Michael Dell would have tapped some other entity or just waited around until the clarity is developed. Same with INTEL......who actually was the FIRST to understand that WAVX was gonna be central to the TC market. Frankly, I think mr. Softee has tapped Wave Systems too. This is just a hunch but all the indicators are there.
SO....MSFT is central to this whole thing. TrustZone is nice and sorta interesting but MSFT is central!
And i think that Wave Systems will do just fine..
IMHO........................
x-point Here is my guess as to the 'Sticker'..............
TCG Compliance Certified.
or something to that effect.
or maybe......
TCG Certified!
and, of course, Wave Systems will be a pretty big part of that
CERTIFICATION!!!!!!!
Sorry Weby..I stand by my post.
Wave Systems is riding on the INTEL>>>DELL>>>WINTEL juggernaut. This is the smartest, most leveraged route to ubiquity, especially given Wave System's small status.
Wave Systems is smart in remaining 'agnostic' and staying true to its "we are helpers to all" who strive for interoperable trusted computing. Wave doesn't take sides. Berger probably got his job at TCG because of this strategy.
Weby, I get it. Pls refrain from saying otherwise. This is not polite.
I have reiterated many times that NTRU is deeply deeply involved with MSFT and I think Wave will pay a significant part. Intel tapped Wave because it got the green light from Mr. Softee. The public is going to go along with Trusted Computing because of Wave Systems, NOT MR. SOFTEE. The public does not trust Mr. Softee.
So I am not fearful of MSFT. I say "BRING IT ON"!!!
As for TrustZone, I think we will be part of that dynamic too. But, TrustZone is off the radar lately and I am more interested in Dell Computer, Intel and the big orders I am expecting from the Public Sector...imho.
So, don't tell me I don't get it!!! I do get it ole buddy....probably ALOT more than most.
eom
the Berkshires..read the part about the end user
having complete control. This is a dead giveaway clue that Wave Systems could be deeply involved.
Also, the fact that NTRU has been deeply involved with MSFT leads me to believe that Wave will be a partner.
IMHO....................
kisamura two problems with that reasoning:
first, MSFT's software people have their hands full w/ Longhorn outside the security arena
AND
secondly, the consuming public doesn't trust MSFT with their security given MSFT's track record.
It doesn't pay MSFT to do this because the headache(s) involved with public relations would be too great. WAVX is already there and can serve as the agnostic and trusted third party.
Look at it this way: Wave Systems is really now part of INTEL in a matter of speaking. WAVX is sorta a 'division of Intel'.
So, MSFT is going to incorporate Wave because it is part of
W.I.N.T.E.L.
get it?
howardjoel You wrote,'anyone can pay for it................
even us'.
fact is that this isn't the case. Everyone CANNOT pay for it.
eom
howardjoel FYI Dutton does NOT accept ANY company.............
for coverage. They probably reject 90% of the applicants that come to them because they don't have that many analysts on board.
So even if you have $33k then the odds are that you won't get covered...PERIOD.
50mil you are still whining.
no guarantees in life buddy but death and taxes.
deal with it..
50mil don't change the subject
take responsibility for your decisions and stop whining.
50mil your whining is annoying.
i don't care what you've lost in WAVX stock. Why should I care or anyone else on this board? It's your money and your decisions. Take the blame on yourself and stop whining.
If you had any guts, then you would double or triple or quadruple up!
IMHO.................
Doma I am just repeating what the KeyOvation guy
told me. He said that IdentiPhi works in conjunction with Wave ETS. This is the Dell version. He went on to say that at this time Keyovation would not say that Wave ETS will be integrated.
I explained my reasons why this is the case. Pls go back to my early posts and you will see the reasons.
oknpv As I said in my post Gilbert said
that IdentiPhi works in conjunction with Wave ETS. This is consistent with Dell version IdentiPhi. Pls read my whole post. For whatever reason Gilbert said that KeyOvation does not want to say that Wave ETS is 'integrated' with IdentiPhi at this time.
and that is verbatim. I think it is consistent with what we know thus far. Remember that integration is different from a 'super bundle'.
oknpv what Gilbert (KeyOvation) said is not inconsistent
with the Dell IndentiPhi version at all. Gilbert didn't want to say there was 'integration' at this time....for whatever reason.
Bundling is just that....integration is something else.
IMHO.....
Wildman I agree. That is why I have been saying..............
all along that it is unwise to say Dutton coverage is a 'done deal'. If coverage starts on the 25th,then everyone will be howling about no coverage. The odds are very great that there will be coverage but we don't the specifics at all.
imho....
Peter Gilbert of KeyOvation emailed me and said............
that IdentiPhi works in conjunction with the Wave ETS. At this time, KeyOvation is not stating that Wave ETS is integrated into IdentiPhi.
that is almost verbatim.
eom
mymoney...Well, it makes sense anyway.
I have always said that it makes little sense for JM Dutton to invite Wave Systems to present at their conference WITHOUT picking up coverage along the way.
We will have to wait and see.
Dutton cannot initiate coverage w/out NUMBERS
and a RATING. the two go hand in hand....PERIOD.
If Dutton initiates coverage (which certain individuals here are saying is a DONE DEAL), then the analyst MUST give estimates and a Rating. An analyst CANNOT start coverage without revenue/earnings estimates! A Dutton analyst MUST also give a RATING if he/she begins coverage. These are REQUIREMENTS for coverage and there is no avoiding it or getting around it.
SO....if Dutton initiates coverage, then we have GUIDANCE.
P.E.R.I.O.D.
I am NOT going to say anymore about this
THANK YOU!
rachelelise No. Dutton MUST GIVE guidance if
they pick up coverage. They must give revenue and earnings forecasts and they must give a Rating if they pick up coverage.
There is NO ifs ands or buts here. PERIOD.
there is NO 'depends' involved. Guidance means a 'rating' and guidance means specific forecasts/estimates. This is what guidance means in terms of coverage.
eamonn....if Dutton initiates coverage of WAVX
then Dutton MUST give guidance. No ifs ands or buts.
It doesn't make much sense for Wave to be presenting at Dutton and not getting coverage. But hey....who the heck knows anymore?
Oh..isn't this a wonderful story...........................
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=&e=9&u=/ap/20050329/ap_on_hi_te/uc_data...
Geez.... when will the public realize that there are SOLUTIONS OUT THERE?????!!!!!
IT'S CALLED WAVE EMBASSY!!! ETS....THE EMBASSY SECURITY CTR!!!!!
H.E.L.L.O!!!!!!
anybody listening?????
Thanks Mundo for the kind words!!!!!
gokite....Holy BatSh*t! All I can say is...............
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.!!!!!
you are a D.U.D.E.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chris...My sympathies and condolences to you
and your family.
God Speed and May God Bless you and your family and your
Dad.
ronle: I have retained the email from
Peter Gilbert at KeyOvation. I am right about this and me thinks A WHOLE LOT MORE...
and so it goes.
thanks for your support!!!!!
ronle: And,of course, Dell is KeyOvation's ONLY............
big league customer. SO....what Dell says is what Dell gets,
P.E.R.I.O.D.!!!!
and that't the rest of the story!
ronle: yeah, I figure that Dell is tellin' them.............
that WAVE ETS has to be in there in order to complete the package as far as Dell's customers are concerned.
Of course, KeyOvation has different types of customers. Not all are enterprise/govt type customers like Dell has to take care of.
So.....KeyOvation takes care of Dell Computer and that means including Wave ETS for the TPM centric computers that Dell sells to the marketplace.
and so it goes.
ronle: I contacted KeyOvation. They said............
that Identiphi runs in conjunction with WAVE ETS. They decline to say that Wave ETS is integrated into IdentiPhi at this time.
that's verbatim.
doma all I know is that KeyOvation is showing.............
the package WITH Dell at FOAM. I dunno about you but KeyOvation is a nobody without DELL!
And Dell is selling the stuff with WAVE ETS....PERIOD.
that means that the big kahuna opportunity for IdentiPhi is thru Dell and that means it is BUNDLED with Wave ETS.
So...for all intents and purposes IdentiPhi is using Wave ETS and the other stuff doesn't amount to a 'hill o beans'...
IMHO.....
Wave ETS on IdentiPhi! See here:
http://www.identiphi.net/productdiagram.htm
do ya see the Dell computer up in the left corner with the integrated TPM?
that's where you will find the Wave ETS system!!!
H.E.L.L.O.!!!!!
The three uncovered companies are as follows:
Apex Silver Mines
Gigabeam
Wave Systems.
FWIW...................
Hamster I particularly like the part that
says only good companies will spend the funds for coverage that they don't have any control of.
Makes sense to me.
Also, Dutton is ranked #1 in independent research.
hamster...Yup. Although I must confess that Dutton
started coverage when the stock was in the mid $40s.
But it was a good pick. did you read this?
http://www.jmdutton.com/PDF_Files/Prosper_Mag_0105.pdf
it makes alot of sense. I like it.
ullr I guess you read this review on Dutton
before you posted.
http://www.jmdutton.com/PDF_Files/Prosper_Mag_0105.pdf
hope so.
Wow! JM DUTTON
hit a grand slam homer on this one.
yowza!