doma all I know is that KeyOvation is showing............. the package WITH Dell at FOAM. I dunno about you but KeyOvation is a nobody without DELL! And Dell is selling the stuff with WAVE ETS....PERIOD. that means that the big kahuna opportunity for IdentiPhi is thru Dell and that means it is BUNDLED with Wave ETS. So...for all intents and purposes IdentiPhi is using Wave ETS and the other stuff doesn't amount to a 'hill o beans'... IMHO.....