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legit post kcco. yes this company needs to prove itself. not another update pushing the timeline forward into the future. if they have anything, someone should bite OR we should be able to see some type of third party white paper that confirms that the goo actually works. i dont want to hear about tom being frustrated or that the u of c boys arent getting the job done. i don't want to hear that the lab isn't quite done and THAT this is the NEW key to success. been there, done that. enough is enough.
someone asked about the sbir status. this isn't the same one as our original submission but pretty close. http://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/689835 are we part of this or have they moved in a different direction? pretty nice award.
Q's
what is the status of the 3rd party partner? (origanlly mentioned in dec 2013)
where are the results of the all optical switch?
if we are that close to commercialization (yes i know, 2 years down the road) why do we need to acquire a company for revenue?
why did tom say no plans to hire new employees after the capital raise was done?
why does a material sciences company/device company still operate without a cto?
why if the M/A was so important has the company no called for an emergency SH meeting to get this done?
Alot of questions here. No need to give the 'BS' posts that I am a glass half full type of guy. These are real questions that deserve to be answered. Alot of us have been suffering here for along time.
Waiting paitently but loosing patience.
you might want to look at symbol gtat.
"When it comes to polymer transceivers, Lightwave has the most promising technology for scale-up."
Rick,
Please help,
What is LWLG's first targeted product in this feild?
-Is it 4x25
-Is it 1x100
-Some other pie in the sky number?
-What are the targeted markets?
-Why are they targeting those markets?
The company said at the ASM that the polymer transceiver was due-- 2016-2017 or 2017-2018?
-Hardly in time to compete against competing 3-5 materials.
-Yes it might be cheap but you have to FIRST show it works. (white papers coming soon. lol)
Let me ask you this. How do you know LWLG has the most promising TECH when they have NEVER released
anything in regards to their material specs or any other in device parameters. Its all hearsay my friend.
With that said I am going back to my George Lauro thesis that he will bring home some type of deal in the near future.
If he doesn't than I would assume there is no redeming value in LWLG's technology except in the eyes of a few jaded shareholders.
Thats all I care about. If nothing happens soon it speaks volumes(25 companies evaluting but no takers?). The clock is ticking!!!! DO OR DIE TIME FOR LWLG!
Spooks
yes, no worries at all.
just buy buy buy......
no intelligent conversation.
no question for management about the increase of shares outstanding?
thats cool.... bottom line is why do we have to increase the count if we had a deal in place? not buying this bullshit pr that they NEED this? yes this might be a winner but for the love of god lets do somethings that rewards the shareholders!
btw. tz returned a few shares but they were all gifted. SO??? has he given anything back? LOL, come on boys. so, you European investors are being diluted and have no clue that it is happening to you.
Say hello to LPC.
Cheers!
no reason to wonder,
if and/or when a reputable company signs on it will be game on. until then its all about the science. while i think they are very close, nothing matters except a 3rd party verification or more importantly a legit contract/joint venture. everyone on this board can claim they know it works but until we get that contract it doesn't mean anything. it doesn't matter about single mode vs multi-mode, its not about solar or bio-sensors, and/or even intel vs ibm or anyone else. none of it matters. we need someone to validate this science.
alot of guys here will tell you to sell if you don't pump the stock, but this isn't the current reality. 90% of them couldn't tell you what the first product will be ( what is the speed/loss/v requirement etc). bottom line is that we don't know and even the company doesn't 100% "know" until they are done with their testing/tweaking etc etc etc.
there are many applications for this science and the world is their oyster but but but but, the science needs to PROVE it. no touchy feely "vibes". just the facts. pumpers, realize i sense those vibes from the company and therfore my semi bullish feelings. but again you have to prove it and see that there is a need for it in the marketplace.
peace out!
i understand. but the real question comes out to be if these guys have anything?is there anything to back up there statements? really walter, please provide some proof?
"Do you think the company has reached certain objectives and now they need George to implement them or has Tom hit a roadblock and needs assistance to keep the company going."
I think it may be a little of all of the above. Its the CEOs job to hire more qualified and talented people then himself especially when he might be lacking in certain areas. TZ finally did that and Mr. Lauro doesn't appear to be another "yes" man.
As a "TROJAN LONG" i agree with all of the rest. Alot of the happenings of the past have be unmitigated disasters. That being said it can't be changed and even though this might look like more "bleeding", I am happy to see TZ make this move and get the help he needs from someone who does this for a living as opposed to doing nothing at all. To me this is not another semi-retired board member with a 24 car garage telling us we are on the launch pad. He is a working board member with an impressive team behind him. JMO
A few more guys on Lauro's team:
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=47549530&privcapId=39361232&previousCapId=39361232&previousTitle=Alteon%20Capital%20Partners,%20LLC
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=20525623
I would say he is co-running it with TZ right now.
"We are all very excited to have George join our Board of Directors. This is the perfect time in our Company’s development to have someone with George’s wide-ranging skill set and connections join our Board. His expertise with early technology commercialization, financial engineering, and investor presentation and messaging align perfectly with our needs and objectives.”
Updated (May 2014)Operations Committee Charter:
See Purpose & Duties & Responsibilities
http://www.lightwavelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Operations-Committee-Charter.pdf
George Lauro Linked Profile Of Lightwave Logic:
Lightwave Logic (publicly traded - LWLG) is a developer of electro-optic devices based on nonlinear optical polymer materials. The Company is leveraging these unique materials to create integrated photonic transceivers, photonic ICs and related devices for high speed fiber-optic data communications and optical computing. Our proprietary organic polymers could enable optical devices that run orders of magnitudes faster than products now on the market based on Lithium Niobate, Gallium Arsenide and other inorganic materials.
Short,sweet and to the point. Anyone think that George was the consultant Tom hired a few months ago? If so its great sign to see him willing take such an elevated position at the company after he evaluated what they had.
Was referring to you post a couple of weeks ago.
Monday, 05/05/14 04:02:28
Got this back from Steve today:
"Company has never run out of money and doesn't intend to now."
and
"Not sure about a call, but we are preparing and update."
Good enough for me to buy some more...
Hopefully we don’t have to wait that long. The company told me they had a new shipment of devices coming in May from some entity. Hopefully they test them and tell us how they performed. Maybe a shareholder update? Steve Schiets? Is it still coming? Anyway,am very impressed with the Lauro hire as he seems to be the guy who knows how to run a tech startup.
Btw: Lauro's managing partner at his current firm is the former CEO of Apple.
GL
Who knows if they are a better play.
But they have better marketing, have a proactive board and ceo, money (good thing to have!!), possibly proof to back up their numbers, and don't say "inital" ten times in every pr.
"If this were simple to do, it would have been done by now." LOL
proto,
no they are not and i highly doubt we will see them until 2015. dunno on corning.
Steve,
I posted everything you are looking for the other day.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=100231859
Mingqian He & Leslie were part of the original Corning eo materials group.
• Commercialized Corning’s Non-linear Optical materials with sales to three semiconductor fabricators for optical interconnects
• Started and managed the early stages of an Organic Electro-Optic Materials project that obtained
the world record organic material Nonlinear Electro-Optic coefficient that was sold to three
semiconductor fabricators
• Patent portfolio committee chair for the Photonics business establishing patent priorities
• Managed the Organic Electronics Material IP portfolio making maintenance fee decisions
Mingqian He has continued the work until this day and it appears that this group has really picked up the pace on patents over the past 3 or so years.
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22Mingqian+He%22#hl=en&q=ininventor%3A%22Mingqian+He%22&tbas=0&tbm=pts
BTW, I don't think corning has an R&D facility in Wilmington.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mingqian-he/39/578/9b
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/thomas-leslie/14/271/305
Old Results
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp038031e?journalCode=jpcbfk
Mingqian He He/she has been very active in this field for the past few years. He/she was also part of the original Dalton group at USC.
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22Mingqian+He%22#hl=en&q=ininventor%3A%22Mingqian+He%22&tbas=0&tbm=pts
yes, to many investors believing the hype. aj has some good materials and until we prove him wrong it is just that. as per x, no one else can innovate and i would say why cant they? they have the man power and the wherewithal to do it. do we? again as buzz stated, where is the money? lets get a realistic response? no talk of 2nd option bla bla bla. he got a raise and should have had his house in order before then. lets start a real conversation with both good and bad? please do not think that we are the only ones who can innovate while others cannot!!
ask him?
LOL. norwood dissed us. So who knows if anyone else is supporting us. Do you have some proof? I still believe but the rose colored glasses are off.
Revenue? Contracts?
"IMO, many research groups that have touched the Perkinamines have in some way been inspired by their activity."
Inspired??? Who is inspired?
Alabama, Cuny, Arizona, Lehigh, Johns Hopkins, Celestech, Fiberlogix, Lockheed etc etc etc
Proof? A little help please?
Here is the free version with a Lightwave mention in it.
http://ecee.colorado.edu/research/grad_work/2013dissertations/2013_Chen_Thesis.pdf
Speaking of lasers this is the first mention I have ever seen of SOH Laser.
http://www.kth.se/polopoly_fs/1.451037!/Menu/general/column-content/attachment/ADOPT_Winterschool_KIT_Palmer_Koos_handout.pdf
Try the Exhibit.
1831 LEFTHAND CIRCLE, SUITE C-D
LONGMONT, COLORADO
Like what you have to say and the questions you ask.
Are they legit?? Who knows and who cares but at least it stimulates constructive criticism. Maybe you could enlighten us and tell us what reason you really have for your distaste in this company. If its not the chemistry, is it something else. Oh well I hope you enlighten us? Does his name start with an "J".
I have a love/hate relationship with this company and the BS they push. NSF is a hard contract to get and they only pick the cream of the crop. LOL
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1413855
We are going after the box to box market. Hmmmmm. With who? We are going to compete with INTEL, CSCO, AVGO, FNSR, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
We don't need a CTO or a real partner!!! LWLG with a Peruvian basin professor can do it on their own!!! Certainly this will ruffle a few feathers but most here have been blindsided by the BS management has told us for years. Yes I still own a ton of this piece of crap and just want to get out. Maybe X's kids will take my shares because of the "FEMPTO" results and the very low "DRY" voltage.
Spooks Out
LOL
shhhhh. it might put some of their panties in a wad. don't you know management was head of strategic planning? maybe he can plan a stock price rise? wouldn't it be nice!!!
perhaps lpc might be loading up. 5 days above 1 dollar as of tomorrow???? Shorts aren't interested in this at this price. Risk-Reward. Somebody is playing games but how will this play out? Whoever it is they aren't in a hurry. When they press their case it might be game on.
Rick,
IMEC is not new to this area at all. They have been producing nanophotonic devices for years. This is just an upgraded platform.
http://eces.colorado.edu/~zl/docs/dacforum11.pdf
"We have fabricated hundreds of devices in ePIXfab and measured them in our labs"
carrier injection/depletion modulators are used by a lot of silicon photonics companies. intel has issued numerous papers on that method as well as soh modulators.
leonberger said in his presentation that it has issues at higher bandwidths. it also has issues with certain advanced modulation formats and very low operating voltages.
http://nanophotonics.ece.udel.edu/paper_pdfs/silicon_polymer_hybrid_slot_waveguide_ring_resonator.pdf
http://www.opticsinfobase.org/oe/fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-21-11-13219&id=253789
i don't think its truly a case of if one is better than the other as both seem to have there place for different types of applications.
his modulators have nothing to do with lwlg. they are carrier depletion. no connection at all.
sounds as if he doesn't even know what he is talking about. strange that he cant repsond to a simple question???? why is that??
Just playing around.
I asked Steve if the sun was coming up. He said yes!!
BSMITH,
Can you please tell us what you think will be the turning point for eo polymers to be commercialized in the telecom and datacom space. Alot of talk across the board but no real world tangible results. Is it cost? Is it cost and drive voltage? Bandwidth? CMOS compatibility?
Also if AJ chromophores are so good why haven't they been adopted in real world applications? This is not a dig just trying to figure out why they have not been.
Damm I hope you aren't an 17 year geek sitting in his parents basement, posting bs. LOL.
S
Thanks.
Well aware of Soluxra and Alex Jen. Both Jen and Dalton have done groundbreaking work in this area. Competition is good and can lead to the commercialization of eo polymers. Can you please answer one question? Are you associated with the University of Delaware in any way?
Rick
http://www.soluxra.com/uploads/Product_Bulletin_SEO500.pdf
They used to have data sheets for the 100 & 200 but I guess they took those down. The SEO 100 & 200 are the only two I have ever seen in research papers. Never seen or heard anything on an SEO400.
Anyway this tells me everything I need to know.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/cm101815b
Hello B Smith,
A few questions. You make some very valid points about results. Many of us have begged and pleaded for results for years to no avail. Do you think there was some type of discrepancy between Norwood’s and Lightwave’s numbers? If so why do you think that was?
You also said that everything that Alex Jen touches is “gold” (my impression), so why hasn’t his material been adopted for commercial use? It seems to me that the big boys are searching for something but haven’t found it yet. Why is that if AJ’s material are so good?
I agree that LWLG materials are a gamble at this point, but I differ from you that there are tons of Leonberger’s out there in this world. This guy for some reason has seen and is still around here for some reason. Do I think he is “GOD”, NO. But he is the closest thing to it imo. LOL. Why would a guy of his stature be hanging around a piece of “X*^*^” bulletin board company at this stage in his career. He has to have seen something and it isn’t a chemist telling him exactly what he wants to hear. Come on.
Finally if LWLG were able to develop a viable material do you think LWLG would go directly to an OEM or try to produce realistic quantities of prototype modulators through a fab like OPSIS or EPIXFAB. Opsis seems like it is the dead man walking of the industry after MOSIS partnered with EPIXFAB; but who knows from a technical standpoint and/or maybe just a lull in overall support from the industry at large.
Just trying to learn!!!
Thanks in advance.
Spooks
We have also worked closely with GigOptix, an IAB member company, and we collaborated to submit a proposal to the NSF SECO program for the transfer of first generation UA sol-gel technology to GigOptix
come on guys lets be realistic. yes i am bipolar but leonberger says this shit is good. if you just stumbled upon lwlg now, you should be buying the crap out of it. these guys are close!! leonberger is the key imo. when have you seen an adviser step up to the plate and vouch for the technology.
when have you seen a person as qualified as leonbeger say its good to go. come on. we have listened to a bunch of shit of the past few years but this stands out to me. place you bets. i think leonberger leads us to the promised land.
yes the connect the dots guys will ridicule this but facts are the facts that leonberger has delivered over and over again. game on!!
Gates,
Where do you see that GIG is collaborating with Intel?
Intel is collaborating with UA/Norwood for their sol-gel "cladding" for hybrid eo polymer modulators.
GIG is trying to license UA/Norwood's sol-gel "cladding" for their eo polymer modulators.
Intel(Block group) has worked with Soluxra/Jen for many years but for some reason they haven't pulled the trigger. Recent literature focuses on increasing the thermal stability.
Also in regards to patent:
http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf;jsessionid=E26E3163D5ECCCC9772B4535D8D886C1.wapp2?docId=WO2013095426&recNum=188&maxRec=7277067&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=&queryString=&tab=PCTDescription
"In one embodiment, over the electro-optic material 240 is disposed a passivation layer 260 to protect the electro-optic material 240 and prevent moisture absorption where the material is hygroscopic (e.g., EOP). The passivation may be SiN, SiC, SiCN, or A10x (e.g., AI2O3). Though studies of novel EOP materials with improved temperature stability are underway, a low temperature passivation material, such as A10x is particularly advantageous as the passivation layer 260 where the electro-optic material 240 is temperature sensitive."
As BSMITH72(Opsis?) noted earlier it is ignorant to assume LWLG is the only game in town as Intel has been actively working with UW & UTD among others for many years. But to me it looks as you have some with very high r33s and others that have incredible thermal stability with LWLG material falling right in between. To me that seems like a good thing. Finally if UA/Norwoods sol-gel cladding potentially increases the r33 by a factor of 2-2.5x it could help a material such as LWLG's get the r33 high enough to get the operating voltage below a volt.
BTW: Fred Leonberger has continually said that there are a number of features that are not found in any other materails to the best of his knowledge. Fred Leonberger is a scientific advisor to CIAN (http://www.cian-erc.org/cian.cfm) and also to Bandwith 10 (http://bandwidth10.com/company.html). Norwood, Wilner, Chang-Hasnain are among many others individuals that have been involved in EO polymer research with some of the aforemenitioned competitors. So he certainly has the contacts to know what is going on. Fred Leonberger is our white paper.
GATES,
Answer the question on how we can compete with the Intels of the world?
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/516311/intels-justin-rattner-on-new-laser-chip-business/
In your world, how can we compete with our paltry amount of cash???? Also what you forget is the amount that goes to JM TZ SC and whoever our sales guy was. LOL Just doesn't compute? INTEL is throwing billions at this and LWLG is still putting part time money at this. PERIOD.
If LWLG has it why hasn't anyone ever given us "1" dollar for our technology? Why do all of our partners have problems or can't figure it out. Hmmmmm. Maybe its us????
Alabama
Cuny
Hopkins
P-X
Norwood
Prather
UD
etc.etc.etc.etc.
Hey i'm still a holder but partially because I am stuck. I can't get out of this POS with any size because its dead. Just praying for one of those good "ol" Marcelli pumps we had in the past.
Bottom line is that we could be on the verge of greatness and not one shareholder would be clued into that fact. Most confusing time ever for LWLG shareholders!!