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The year was 2012 , and I said plum creek lumber co would be no more. R . Now listin , do you hear that ? Do you see it? The once was Plumcreek mills are shouting down. Just like I said no more steem in the boilers . They are snuffed out. WY. Wants them down too. The good men are all gone now. No way to bring them back. Where is that Mighty Bissmark , The Hood, The Titanic ? And now the flag ship of "The Leaders Of All Inviermental Industry's " Just a memory. Yep. A WORD TO THE WISE MAN. Take the blind fold off , no your hands are not tied up or down jump up and walk the plank and jump out of this burning out of control mess. Now Know This,if you find this post you have done your Dew Dillegence. I'm thinking Abou October 30, 2016 in there somewhere WY. Stock Will be $25.00 then soon to $19.00 $19.50 that's what about what it would have been right now had Plucreek was still in control . No one can know this for sure but based on what we know in the past this is close . PS Managment might be able to row this ship if they FIRE ALL OF Plumcreek old management teem . That's why plumcreek is nonexistent to day there manament teem is a canser.
The year was 2012 , and I said plum creek lumber co would be no more. R . Now listin , do you hear that ? Do you see it? The once was Plumcreek mills are shouting down. Just like I said no more steem in the boilers . They are snuffed out. WY. Wants them down too. The good men are all gone now. No way to bring them back. Where is that Mighty Bissmark , The Hood, The Titanic ? And now the flag ship of "The Leaders Of All Inviermental Industry's " Just a memory. Yep. A WORD TO THE WISE MAN. Take the blind fold off , no your hands are not tied up or down jump up and walk the plank and jump out of this burning out of control mess. Now Know This,if you find this post you have done your Dew Dillegence. I'm thinking Abou October 30, 2016 in there somewhere WY. Stock Will be $25.00 then soon to $19.00 $19.50 that's what about what it would have been right now had Plucreek was still in control . No one can know this for sure but based on what we know in the past this is close . PS Managment might be able to row this ship if they FIRE ALL OF Plumcreek old management teem . That's why plumcreek is nonexistent to day there manament teem is a canser.
Never mind , I looked it up. I guess I'm thingking that there must be someone who want this stock to go as much as I with out the beating.
Q. How many $ would it take to pay back the bell out ?? And could that amount be borrowed els where??
R
Hi Dew Diligence : See you made it from Pcl to WY. Good now I see that you wised up a bit, Came over to WY.
Did you remember what I said that made you switch Co. I wrote way back in 7/06/13 on investors hub PLC.
That hopefully someouther Co. Would take over this mess . RRR.
What did we ever think about GM magnetic ride?
This might be more like it.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/x247wallst/SIG=12q719ptb/*http://247wallst.com/media/2014/10/06/why-one-analyst-sees-sirius-xm-shares-rising-to-5/
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Merrill Lynch views the third quarter as an open road ahead as multiyear highs for U.S. new auto sales are driving subscriber upside. Another observation that had created some legal overhang is that the Turtles legal decision impact is being called immaterial.
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Merrill Lynch highlighted Sirius XM as a business with scale that is enjoying accelerating growth due to a revived auto market. The firm also expects a renewed focus on leveraging and monetizing new technologies such as IP and telematics. The firm also sees above consensus capital
What THE!!!
Earlier this month, U.S. District Judge Philip Gutierrez found that California law gave the 1960s band copyright protection for its music, including the right of public performance, even though federal copyright only applies to recordings made after February 1972.
So Q. Did Sirius XM. Not compensate the Turtles after there new releases of 1972??? If Sirius XM. Did in fact do so (comply with the copyright of 1972) . Then it would seem to me that the judge is trying to influence the SIRIUS XM stock for maybe for his benefit my opinion of corse but man what an opportunity to load up.
So all this is crap?
This crap is sure interesting though!
Stupid Tesla,Edison,Plosson, people like this sure fooled the fools like me. And an other thing sefe did a good job of it too, for me $12,000 worth of it and still I'm not satisfied. So I look at videos like this and now it all crap. http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/01/30/the-ground-breaking-mathematics-that-proves-free-energy-is-possible-has-been-discovered/ scroll down. Thanks for trying to help me out of nonsense but I just can't help it.
Here's the dill for me, poking around at Tesla's work in 2009 I stumble up on SEFE. Should have bought Tesla Motors but didn't. Now you and I know there's something with this energy of SESE. As kids we jacked around with generator motor ideas but anyway take a look at some of these videos , type in (free energy videos) look at the date of this one. http://themindunleashed.org/2014/05/free-energy-live-action-quantum-energy-generator-morocco-huge.html
You will have to scroll down to see this video
https://www.agero.com/
And look at this.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20140915/OEM06/140919922/industry-learns--to-share-road-with-tech-giants
This is why I think Sirius Xm is worth $60. a share. Siri. owns Agero. ,Agero uses data (lots of it) Sirius Xm. Has the spectrum. That. I understand , that the others don't have . Now if Sirius Xm keeps this right.or there Rights to own this and doesn't sale them . I think by 2017 we you and I will see $20. Share price. This ship Hasn't even begin to sail when it marks $5. the rest of theme will say " I knew I should have bought in at $3.57"
But all along we know we're in to something good. r
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Are you thinking in the music box? Well how about we think like Sirius Xm is like a Jewelry Box. Because it is. Ok. What should we put in our box. Music, Sports , Talk , Live content , Stuff ! Now I'm sitting here and come to think of it , I don't remember putting one dang thing in this box but whenever I turn it on there it is , Stuff. So I put Fox on .I'm a guy but Fox makes me fill fuzzy. Then awhile later 70s looks good but then again 80s do too. So much to choose from . What's in yours? I'm not talking like my radio is , Pandora . But first lets back up. Who's the Wise Guy that puts our Stuff in the box in the firs place??? He or She must make a lot of money and shares it with me . I only pay $15. A month and have all this , and yet someone put this in my Jewelry Box I'm not kidding I just don't remember doing that. But looking down the road , say 150 miles from home I wonder whats going on on my home FM. radio stations, or the place I'm going to AM. Side , or maybe Canada has a DJ. That everyone in the boarder states Liston to. Now remember I'm traveling and think I will Liston to my book on the radio so I do. Now if you could, what would put in your Jewelry Box? OK In my head here's you. " BIG DEAL! My smarty phone does that all ready. Yes ! But what happens when telematics tells your phone to take a hitch hike . then what? So I get in my vehicle and she says to me Jolly Roger! I will reply ,Yes. She already knows where we're going what I'm doing she has voice activated telematics . Look we together can go on and on but someone took our Genie out of the box and put Jack there. Right now someone needs to find that Genie that makes lots and lots of money to find that He or She put more stuff in this box. I also think the more in there the less it cost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Creek_Timber
Plum Creek lumber. Is taxed as a REIT. A REIT, or Real Estate Investment Trust, is a type of real estate company modeled after mutual funds. REITs were created by Congress in 1960 to give all Americans – not just the affluent – the opportunity to invest in income-producing real estate in a manner similar to how many Americans invest in stocks and bonds through mutual funds. Income-producing real estate refers to land and the improvements on it – such as apartments, offices or hotels. REITs may invest in the properties themselves, generating income through the collection of rent, or they may invest in mortgages or mortgage securities tied to the properties, helping to finance the properties and generating interest income.
Now I know you know all this too and we could show off how much we don't agree. But for me I just gotta draw a line. We can't cut every last tree down , In the 70s we tried .If you worked hard enough on a timber sale you get bonus pay I'm not going to dredge up that old crap but PCL. Had an old saying "Any Good Tree Is Cut Up And Made In To A Board". There's a difference in a sapling and a tree . Anyway at the expense health and family's . For cring out loud draw a line connect the dots. Unless it's all about the money ? Then sale your soul get everything , If this is the case this stock should be around $1,000 or $2,000 a share. I Wish all good wealth. The Jolly Roger.
r! The only plank here is the plank in the eyes of some. At $16. I will take some . Then at $60. A little more! ,r,r,r
Housing? Would you buy Plum Creek if it depended on just the housing market ? Let's say Plum Creek spun off the timber, just the timber and the mils that just right now that Plum Creek owns. Would you buy that stock? No one would, there becoming other ways to build home with out lumber and ply wood (timber products). And it's working well. Here think about this. If Plum Creek cut down a tree sold it for fire wood right now it's worth more $ then finished lumber, maybe that's why they let it burn. Ok! The question , would you buy Plum Creek if it depended on housing and wood manufacturing alone? If yes based on EBITDA what would be the value of this stock? Now get this , just my opinion! But $10.00 stock . Spin it off ? I don't know. Maybe $3. Or $4.???
Housing? Would you buy Plum Creek if it depended on just the housing market ? Let's say Plum Creek spun off the timber, just the timber and the mils that just right now that Plum Creek owns. Would you buy that stock? No one would, there becoming other ways to build home with out lumber and ply wood (timber products). And it's working well. Here think about this. If Plum Creek cut down a tree sold it for fire wood right now it's worth more $ then finished lumber, maybe that's why they let it burn. Ok! The question , would you buy Plum Creek if it depended on housing and wood manufacturing alone? If yes based on EBITDA what would be the value of this stock? Now get this , just my opinion! But $10.00 stock . Spin it off ? I don't know. Maybe $3. Or $4.???
http://inventors.about.com/od/pstartinventions/a/plastics.htm
Takes time: I think the United State coin should be made out of this LQMT. Then our money would be worth something. Could you imagine the bezel ,the laser work each manufactured with precision . All this with our LQMT. Every coin said , "In God We Trust" . I don't really have any thing to say just thought the above link would show the time pattern of something cool like LQMT. Have 10,000 shares @ .49 I will take some @ $100. A share.
It would seem Barron's projections are off a bit this stock price should be right around $10. As for the Chinese I'm quite sure they want nothing from U.S. wood products. This plum creek company doesn't pay a fair wage to the work force or unable to . I think by June of 2014 we will see flood water then by mid August forest fires do from crap land management . My conclusion by Mid October 2014 you and I will see a shake out . Under stand just my opinion
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How much is a liberty C share worth??? Evidently if I take Liberty @ $145.00 x .0760 = $11.02 for liberty C shares . That's not the way to do the calculation ? I've been kind of over board about this . I just about used the gang plank for a diving board. Then you see it got worse , I read on and it says a 2 for 1 . Well I take $11.02 add that x 2 and I come up with $22.04 for Liberty C shares . Well I was just about to go down order a new Ford pick up truck tomorrow but so excited couldn't sleep so got up to see what you guys are doing, that's when it dawns on me ., ,,, ,,did something wrong ,, ,,, and isn't even morning yet. ,, ,, So someone be so kind to set this matter straight . In @ .68 so still The Jolly Roger.
Did you guys ever stop to think -Agero telematics could be the the ticket here . Sirius-XM has - the spectrum none others have with out that space nothings works. If I do this right check this out. http://www.ted.com/talks/raffaello_d_andrea_the_astounding_athletic_power_of_quadcopters.html
What I'm thinking here is that we might just want to stay on this Mystery Ship . Let's take this hill no one pulls back on this week . Unless your a shorty . r r r The Jolly Roger.
Well put.
r.
Someday when this board thinks, us longs should get to gether on our ship that came in , We will invite Mr. Karmizazin and Mr. Malone. So that we can applaud them . The Jolly Roger.
There's treasure out here , some walk the plank early and it's the same as missing the boat altogether I'm thinking this thing worth more then pre 2006 ,$50. When people realize at p there in the wrong boat they will get in ours and I think the more the marry er. They will see. All men and lady's on board. And we'll all be Jolly. r,r,r,
Load the ship load it with all you can then push off jump on this isn't the titanic , it won't sink but it could burn up there a lot of us on board at this point it's hard to know if we're burning up or if we're burning down , important is that you just stay on until we all get there together . Hope this cleared any confusion you might of had.
What do you mean by that ?, good or bad ?
Well now:
I fill like a anal thermometer , don't know if I should go in or come out . This crack that your talking about not sure of but one things for sure , this goes .23 I'm loading up the butt I'm getting butt loads.
Please don't get us in trouble with your parents if they give you a hard time for this, but a buttload is a real unit of measurement that is used for reasons that aren't always juvenile. A butt is actually a traditional unit of volume that is used for wines and other alcoholic beverages. ( In this case lqmt for me)
A butt is defined to be 2 hogsheads, which in the US is 63 gallons. So now you know… a buttload is when you have a ton of LQMT and you don't want to count in hogsheads.
Jeepers: My Apologies to the board.
Just having a little drink of lqmt with the guys here I thought.
But I'm for this too. I do see this as replacing almost all medical
Metal materials with lqmt. To the board, sorry . But may be it would
Make a good guitar string.
Idea :
I'm in sense .49 for 10,000 shares
The idea here would be to take and squeeze guitar strings out of OUR LQMT , Acoustic or electric if it plays in perfect tune then , squeeze Piano strings. If that works, on to the harp. If the angels sing we buy if not , we hold.
Then if some still think it's crap , squeeze it into rolls of recyclable toilet paper then they too will buy it. , r . r. r.
We will see :
We need people to just look, observe draw there Own conclusions . Did you see the smoke this summer ?
Do you think some of that smoke was preventable ? Do you see things that just don't make any scents in the environment ? Do you wonder if you think you could make a better judgment then they ? Well that's what I'm talking about.
Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success have no meaning
Benjamin Franklin
An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.
Benjamin Franklin
I'm well aware of this too. Why do you suppose the U.S. doesn't mine our own gold or silver ? We could pay our national debt off with the silver Just in Montana alone. Or Montana cole we could run our power for estimated of 500 years? Now you come along and say ,Hey, Hey,Hey ! Plum Creek gonna save the day. How about you look up who owned these lands be for Plum Creek and then be for that , then should we say as long as there making me money I don't care. r r r.
Your in my waters now :
The Manufacturing segment reported $11 million of operating income for the third quarter, compared to the $9 million of operating income reported for the third quarter of 2012. Operating income growth was driven by strong pricing for the company’s panel products and higher lumber sales volumes. Medium density fiberboard (MDF) prices have increased approximately seven percent over the past twelve months while plywood prices have increased approximately six percent. Sales volumes for plywood and MDF were largely unchanged from the same period of 2012 as both facilities continued to run near capacity. Lumber sales volumes increased 47 percent compared to the third quarter of 2012 due to the April 2013 re-start of the company’s Evergreen sawmill. Average lumber prices declined approximately five percent. This was due solely to the introduction of lower–valued stud lumber produced by the re-opened sawmill.
I retrieved this from Plum Creeks Timber company Inc report results for third Q 2013.
Some where around 25 or 30 years ago Plum Creek set out to be the leader in the environmental industry that sounds good and and I think back then I was all for it . Protecting there lands and lands that were in trusted to them . I suppose I must of thought that meant wiled life and fish too, and still human life could in joy it also. Ok history lesson as I recall Plum Creek would no longer clear cut . That sounded like a good thing besides it looked like hell it would cut down on erosion but you guessed it they still do when asked about this you get 100 different answers, what they were doing was to leave a 50 to 60 year old seed tree that was selected to drop a premium seed then forty years later come back in and harvest that 90 to 100 year old seed tree for plywood panel product that's what's going on the last seven months. Now let's do the math , 25 years ago seed tree , tree drops seeds ten years later tree population recovered so now add 100 yes 100 years to 10 years 100 x 10 = 110 years for plywood peeler log . Right now we might , might have two years of these same seed trees I'm talking about. And old growth now is 30 years old trees they have a better chances of burning then ever making it to production .
A sophisticated market maker of timber acreage. Plum Creek is often selling when others are eager to buy and vice versa. Rick R. Holley, CEO, has stated: "Asset allocation decisions will be the difference between good returns and great returns" (Foolish investors couldn't argue with him).
Your ship it's the Titanic isn't it ? The ruder is out of the water , the bow is in the deep, the crew knows what it must have been like on the SS Edmund Fitzgerald those last hours. There drowning and they know it but there working as hard as they can to get the goods to port the engines have stopped now. The boiler is snuffed the good men that feed the fuel have died now the new ones that had been installed have never Liston to the sound of decay for it might be negative. The ship IS going down the unions that brought the pipes together are still tight but the pipes are broken full of water instead of steam . The cap he's a good man but he put all pirates in charge and he know it But note he's not on this ship he's on land . Do you see that? The paragraph in parentheses says Foolish investors couldn't argue with him . But that leaves wise investors just to stay away. This will wash its self out too. Mean wile do you have any good ideas for the floods of 2014 ? Flood are coming from Poor land management practice of these land. Now a storm is coming they always will but I throw you a life invest make sure you Liston to your radio , your radio. R.
A sophisticated market maker of timber acreage. Plum Creek is often selling when others are eager to buy and vice versa. Rick R. Holley, CEO, has stated: "Asset allocation decisions will be the difference between good returns and great returns" (Foolish investors couldn't argue with him).
Your ship it's the Titanic isn't it ? The ruder is out of the water , the bow is in the deep, the crew knows what it must have been like on the SS Edmund Fitzgerald those last hours. There drowning and they know it but there working as hard as they can to get the goods to port the engines have stopped now. The boiler is snuffed the good men that feed the fuel have died now the new ones that had been installed have never Liston to the sound of decay for it might be negative. The ship IS going down the unions that brought the pipes together are still tight but the pipes are broken full of water instead of steam . The cap he's a good man but he put all pirates in charge and he know it But note he's not on this ship he's on land . Do you see that? The paragraph in parentheses says Foolish investors couldn't argue with him . But that leaves wise investors just to stay away. This will wash its self out too. Mean wile do you have any good ideas for the floods of 2014 ? Flood are coming from Poor land management practice of these land. Now a storm is coming they always will but I throw you a life invest make sure you Liston to your radio , your radio. R.
DD!
Now that the fires are going out and the land looks like a neutron bomb hit it when the spring run off comes what do You think happens ? Most people by then can't remember the fires of 2013 just the ones that went through it . Not fore me, as a conservationist I have to consider what could be next now. But for Plumcreek Lumber Co. "The Leader in the environmental Industry " shame on them . These guys , they think goofy and they get people to think the same but don't . If the fuel in fire zones had been removed we wouldn't be talking about the floods for 2014 but there coming maybe 2015 Yes I'm pointing finger. Listen go back and listen to Plumcreeks pod casts it sounds good but is that what they really think we want ? Here drink their Kool -Aid here have another glass here let Me get you a pitcher. Would you like ice? I've here'd it all from these guys .
O! Would you like a bone? I didn't drink there there Love potion ether. If you do it seems to rape your family.
OK enough of this spanking . We got to get back to what can happen next and think how not to be here in the first place. I tell you whenever the lawnmower hits dog crap it stinks and this stinks my opinion $10 stock
$10 . At this mark they seem to be humble we will see , there pretty good at smoke screens there sending some now look up . Do you see some smoke screen in the sky ? You will. Just wait , it will say $10. Stock. Log on.
RRR.
AWE!
There you are. To answer the question , No . Just wondering were you sailed off to ? What do you have for facts . This purple creek runs deep and there's suckers in it. Lets not let any canon balls fall short if there's treasure lets go get it . But I say R . walk the plank start talking or your flag ship goes down. To $10.00. Interaest rates are going up. Mills are old,need of repair. Retirement isn't a problem it's mostly contract labor,that's good for the economy (Right?) long term too. The leader in the timber industry trees are burning up or is it down. Well the beetle won't be getting those trees now will they but now no tree no fiber. It's like Toyota getting a recall now is it. O well I'm a Ford Man my self. Don't even start on gas and oil these idiots (can I say that on this board? ) don't even know how to work on there own car. So back to facts. Your on the plank. I gave a light stab. Give me some treasure or jump. R.
R
She green .09 pump and dump. Penney stock I tell you. Look at Evergreen plywood div. that mill is dead. They have work those people to rags ,out sourest labor for so many years the town doesn't want them here any more . They never really did . Someone gets an idea and we are like sheep point one in a direction and the rest will follow right over the cliff. I'm not saying that all this thing they are doing is wrong but I am saying almost all in charge have the wrong intent. I was borne in Montana third generation I will tell you if one of these boys from Montana come to your state start telling you how to do things send them back here we have plenty of room on a green chain for them we start out contract labor for $10.00 or $12.00 Hr. for two or three years and then we don't need them so we hire more other contract labor s . So if one of these boys show up send them back its there turn they haven't had one yet. I now what hard work is and happy to be able to do it at onetime .Born in to Plumcreek lumber and work there 30 years so combined all of 50 years I have heard it all I will tell you now it's Not about people with Plumcreek. When investing make sure PCL. is not the mother CO. $10. Stock we will talk about it then. Plumcreek feeding it to you by the FOOT. Buy the BOARD FOOT.
Plum creek:
This is like "Your up a creek with out a paddle". On top of that your PLUM up a creek with out ?. Well as you must know by now The Jolly Roger is not happy with the way that they Just Do It. There's real no way to say how we should manage the land we Just do the best we can but that's just what we should be saying , WE.
I can see them siting around a board meeting think about how good they must look. Say , you look like a smart, intellectual man , how would you build a moose trap? The other man would think for a second only. For he knows if he thinks it out to long . The other members will think he's stooped but no mater what he says ,like we must know where he lives first or build a place for him to come then we catch him and eat him . Mr. One will say YES! Well I knew you are a smart man But just befor the meeting adjourned , Mr One will slip him a note , we will never now what's on the not but I think it's $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Now Mr. Intellectual is not stooped at this point after the meeting the two men stay . OK now listen , go to www.plumcreek.com click investor see the little micerphon now ? Or look for "click here for webcast". Thursday June 6 2013 .Click and listen it sounds great but my freind if you love this Moosehead Regin As much as I love Montana don't let them do it. I've never been to Maine I would like to see it the way God made it but if Plumcreek gets it never mine me . They won't call me out they know that we are at there what ever. They think this is there's OK may be but say No No. Not the waters at all. Back to the podcast 22:15 minuet in you will here control ,controls, but I here monopoly things like don't get payed much that's the laborer . For the laborer I past the note back Im not on any board or ever will be. Conclusion : In this case , You are eather the moose or building a moose trap. But do nothing is building the trap. Will you push the note back or tell us what's on it ? $10.00 stock well go from there. R