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<<We are never ever ever going to get any shares>>
I still think folks will get their shares.....
Again, it's only paper to them.....
just my opinion.......
Have yourself a nice weekend.
YEP.......Very true.....
Nice weekend to all........
<<Hey Sludge...it seems as though MOST of the Pinkies...all have recorders that answer the phones! They can NOT afford real folks it appears...RJ>>
LOL...They can pay insiders hundreds of thousands of dollars as their debt rises in to the stratosphere and they dilute the retail holders to death, while not diluting themselves to death, and they cant pay $8 per hour to have 'secretary'??
Well, judging by the many lawsuits, some quite serious, at least their attorneys will be getting nice paychecks.....
Obviously, you are referring to me in this post…
<<wow... someone must of not SURVIVED...thank GOD!!!>>
I have seen a lot in my days but it takes a truly classless person to
A) make fun of anothers health issues
B) To wish harm one another
C) To revel and be happy that another has serious health issues
D) To publicly state they are happy somebody did not survive.
Pretty lame, imo. I assume you have family? Friends? Do you ‘thank g-d’ when they become ill and wish for them to die and not survive?
“karma’ is pretty powerful and normally shows it’s hand. I suspect when somebody in your family becomes ill, your words above will come back to haunt you. There is ‘a lot’ of ‘bad’ in this world, but nothing is as low as one human being wishing death or harm on another and your comment truly shows you are about as low as they come, by reveling in the fact you think somebody died or did not ‘survive’ their health issues.
For the record, I am still alive and plan to be until the big man upstairs says it is time. If you wish to revel and wish death/harm on to others, just remember, KARMA WILL catch up to you and you will be judged one day as well, by higher powers, as we all will be.
I don’t see much discussion concerning the companies filing. I am sure you read the entire filing by now….and after doing so, how do you feel about your ‘investment’ in this ‘company’? I read the entire filing in full detail and all I could think of was how anybody could read this and feel even remotely positive about this company. In fact, imo, anybody that read that filing and gives this company one penny, is 6 beers short of a six pack.
I couldn’t tell if I was reading a filing or a ‘company death certificate’.
Not that I need PAVC to tell me that the world is going wireless, LD rates are now near nothing…’calling cards’ will no longer exist in the NEAR future, and that they cant compete with the big boys that dominate this arena…….I didn’t need to hear that from the company as I already knew that much…but they did put in the filing and pretty much admitted they know they cant ‘survive’ in that arena.
It also appears as though we now know why the company has been so silent. How many lawsuits are they involved in? AS DEFENDANTS?? No wonder they are so quiet. They cant have too much time to ‘talk’ with everybody lining up and suing them….I knew they were being sued on several different fronts, as it is public info anybody can dig up, but even I was surprised at the number of entities suing the company and for the many different reasons. And the company is attempting to settle many of these claims, obviously because they are guilty. If you are not guilty, you don’t roll over and play dead and pay cash…you file a countersuit and fight back, yet I see only one instance in which the company claims they are innocent and will fight back. Additionally, look at who is filing the suits and what the claims are…NOT GOOD!!!
And although everybody laughed at me when I said I suspect shareholders are going to see massive dilution, isn’t it odd how I was right again? The company is diluting the piss out of themselves and clearly states the dilution will continue. And how do shareholders feel seeing that YOUR ‘investment’ is being diluted to death, but the insiders shares will NOT be diluted??
That is a common scam for these ‘type’ companies. They kill their shareholders with massive dilution, RS’s, RM’s, but their shares are exempt from any dilution, as they rape their shareholders more and more…..and now we know as a fact that is what PAVC is doing.
1000 shareholders?? LMAO……For such a great company and all its potential and all they can get are 1000 shareholders?? It’s a BIG world……but only 1000 people look at pavc and think it will be a money maker for them?? Wait, I am being too generous…..I would LOVE to see how many NEW shareholders have come aboard, AFTER the ‘issues’, as the 1000 shareholders they claim to have, likely 90% of them are only shareholders because they were ‘forced’ to be shareholders when the company pulled the RS scam. If you don’t have your shares, you cant sell them, which makes you a shareholder. Yet all they have is 1000, even after ‘trapping people’ with their scam?? LOL….Thats pretty funny….
That also appears to be pretty hefty ‘compensation/salary’ for insiders that have done what? Do current shareholders feel management has done such a great job to warrant that amount of compensation? They are in debt up to their AZZ, they are being sued by everybody and their brother, they are diluting the piss out of retail holders and said it will continue, while they are NOT diluting themselves. They cant raise any money, yet they are paying themselves those hefty salaries…..LOL…For what exactly?? They think they should be rewarded for raping their shareholders??
They state that due to the amount of shares insiders hold, shareholders have ZERO say in anything…..No VOTES for any shareholder on any issue..they can and will do whatever they like, they do not have to get a majority vote….they don’t even have to tell you what they are doing until after the fact!!!!
All this talk of buying bankrupt companies or companies in distress?? LOL…The ONLY reason companies do this is to implement more games….
Look at their history……How many ‘name changes’ have they gone thru?? How many times have they ‘changed biz models’? How many times have they implemented ‘corporate actions’ that killed the current company and existing shareholders, only to pop up over and over, doing the same thing? A LOT!!
And their filing clearly states this will continue……..
Oh, but the good news is they are suing Jack, or is it John?? LOL…That is ‘good news’?? And they claim they are going to seek to get attorney fees and damages?? LMAO…TOO FUNNY…..They aren’t going to get SQUAT, except their own hefty attorney fees and a countersuit filed by ET, that I would expect to see public fairly soon.
This filing was a complete and utter joke. They are clearly saying THEY CANT SURVIVE, but the insiders will RAPE the company while they can, and then they will start all over again, when they change from PAVC and their current biz model into their next great guaranteed biz……yet, it concerns nobody that they have never succeeded at ANY biz model, and will NOT succeed with the current one and will do some more scammy deals so they can continue to rape and pillage retail shareholders in yet more scams?
LMAO……I tell ya….if anybody see’s anything positive, PLEASE contact me…..instead of putting your money in the pockets of crooks that are raping you blind, just flush it in the toilet as it is the same thing…or better yet, give the money to charity and take the write off…..but why give your money to the very people that are raping you in PUBLIC? And admit they will continue to rape you until they morph into some bankrupt shell or scam and start this all over again…..Gee, you would think with a 10 year history of failed businesses, raping shareholders…rinse and repeat…folks would eventually catch on…….
The filing was a joke and told me what I already knew…….This is nothing but a scam…a ‘money making vehicle for insiders’, as they rape their own shareholders blind.
But, human nature….if you are long, you will not admit or accept this is a scam until all your money is gone…you will look thru rose colored glasses and think the best, even though you are being raped as you wear those glasses……
I do NOT wish for anybody to lose money or get hurt by this scam and knowing they have more games ready to play, hopefully many of you that are down, can make up your losses…..
I truly feel very sorry for anybody that lost on this, but I will not feel sorry for anybody that has given this company a penny in the last year……A fool and his money will ALWAYS part ways and imo, anybody that has given this company a single penny in the last year, is a very foolish and naïve investor that is better off leaving the casino, before they end up on the welfare line……
I wish all the honest and legit people the best…….You pumpers?? I hope all of you get what you deserve for suckering people into this OBVIOUS scam. And I hope the insiders get what they deserve as well.....
LOL.....Yep.......I love the potential of this company so much, I am trying to buy up the entire float as I know I am guaranteed to get rich on this company and the huge success that lies ahead for them.
LMAO....
P.S. - That 'article' you posted is old news.....
Furthermore, I think it is already known by all, that the mm's are 'corrupt' and a big part of the 'problem'. Nothing new or 'eye opening' to me anyway......
I also see a poster said they got their round up shares!!!
Awesome..as I said, I do think folks will get their shares.....it's only paer after all......hopefully this time next week, MANY will be posting they got their shares.......
LOL......ALL DAY?? LMAO....
So my 5 - 7 posts in 3 days is considered posting 'all day'??
Gee, isnt it odd how YOU have posted more times then me in the same timespan??!!
<<I still don't see why some would wanna sit here and puff smoke all day....HMM must be a lonely cat! not right in the head
>>
I guess by your very own assesement, we should then consider you lonely and not right in your head??!!
Actually the SEC is not only interested, but by the companies own admission, the SEC is 'investigating them' and the current 'issues'.
I think what finally triggered the SEC to get involved were the non stop blatant lies coming from the company, only to see the company finally admitt that they have known the entire time it was not the brokers fault for not getting the TA info....They claimed that for a long time, but finally admitted the TA had ALL INFO from DAY 1, and they KNEW IT.
What got the SEC 'interested' was when they filed to do a RS but didnt disclose the fact they filed for one...when people discovered they filed for a RS, they called in masse. And everybody was told the same thing....They claimed they filed to do the RS for strategic purposes only and had no intention of doing a RS....then, with zero notice and 15 minutes left in the trading day, they pr'd they would be doing a RS ( with some VERY ODD TERMS!!) effective IMMEDIATELY....so, unless you caught the pr in the last 15 minutes and sold, you were 'trapped' by the company to stay thru the RS, and we know what has happened since then....value has plumetted to all time lows....insiders with free trading shares have been dumping, while retail people dont have any shares, after a whole year......I suspect when the SEC called and asked about the RS and was given the same answer everybody else got....which was they filed for an rs, but were not going to do one...and then did it as they did.....that got them very 'interested'....and of course, with all of the other MANY 'issues' the SEC finally decided to pay the company a visit and as far as I know they are still investigating and trying to make some form of sense out of the many issues....
As far as the company 'needing money'...we already know they are seriously hurting for cash......In their last filing, they clearly said they have no cash and may have to shut the doors if they dont get cash and get it QUICK.....In my last conversation with the company, last week, at least they were finally honest for a change....I asked about the last filing which stated they NEEDED cash, pointed out how long it has been since then and asked pointedly if they have been able to either raise any cash via normal methods or if they had cash coming in from biz, that was allowing them to run their biz...They flat out told me that with all of the issues, they have not been able to raise any cash thru 'normal means'. In fact they were very candid......They actually asked me..."If we were seeking money from you and you saw the current issues we have yet to resolve, would you invest?" I obviously said NO.....and they said that is the problem..with all the issues, they cant get cash thru 'normal means' and as far as if they had money coming in from operations, they basically said there are no operations...we are in 'standbye mode and can do very little until the issues are resolved'. They then tried to 'pump things up' by telling me they have 'possible deals in the pipeline and were hoping to close some deals, but the issues were delaying any possible deals'.
In any event....The sec and others are already looking in to this situation....their 'money issues' are very real..they dont have any and cant get any...LOL..I think that is a fairly serious issue myself....
The bottom line is there are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of 'scams out there' and pavc is simply one of many scams.....
The blatant lies have been proven to be lies, the company has been caught and then admitted to not being truthful.....
And the saddest part of all this is even after the company has blatantly lied more times then I can count, there are actually still people that are claiming the company is 100% legit and was screwed by the brokers and company has done nothing wrong.
If ANY investor/gambler believes that B.S. after all this time and all the issues and repeated lies, what are they doing in the casino??? likely losing their arses if they continue to believe the repeated lies.....
With that said....if the sec does not shut them down, I do think folks will get their shares....after all, it is only worthless paper to them....and I also suspect a whole new set of games is already orchestrated and ready for them to 'play' whenever the water is safe for them to do so.......
I guess you like proving that you type whatever you want, while being 100% clueless concerning what you are posting about.
<<Whys would he hold the teleconference at 4:15 on a friday after the market closes if the news was good?>>
It may be Friday in 'your world' but it is thursday for people on the planet earth.
LOL....So you say the company did not pay and stiffed the TA??
Sounds pretty 'negative' if you are saying the company 'stiffed' it's own TA, which in turn screwed every single shareholder obviously.....
How much are you being paid to post/bash?
;>)
OBVIOULSY, you KNOW I am JOKING!!!
My apologies to you as well.....
We are all human and sometimes 'frustration' gets the best of us...even me ;>)
Best of luck, Keith
Did you miss my response to you or put me on ignore by mistake?
hence, you dont see the 'one post'....the last one....which was made by me??
Folks, if he responds as he does again, then he may have accidentaly ( Or purposely<lol>) put me on ignore..so, if he doesnt get this post...somebody alert him....thanks.......
I enjoy smokeys dialouge.....
Thats all?
.05?
I better get busy....at that rate I'll have to work all day just to earn a whopper at burger king...maybe I can think up some $5 posts ;>)
You guys are certainly paranoid and I hate to be insulting, but kinda clueless as well.....
Does paid bashing occur? Sure it does.....as does paid pumping.....
However, not everybody that is negative is a paid basher, short or whetever, just as not everybody positive is a paid pumper.......
If I was being paid to bash.....A) Why dont yall report my illegal activities and get me in jail? B) If I was being paid to bash, I think I would be posting ALOT more and I think I would be joined by my other paid basher friends, no?
I cant help but laugh at the 'pavc has paid bashers on it' posts.....Where are they??? Man, if you guys want to see what paid bashers do, I can certainly point you to some and you can see how they operate.....
TYo say I am a paid basher is almost too funny to respond to and honestly, it shows how naive many of you are.....
You believe a company that has blatantly lied non stop more times then I can count and you think little ole me is a paid basher.....sorry, but it really is funny and kinda sad...folks this naive really should not be in the casino....if you ever do hit a stock that does have paid bashers working it, then maybe you'll understand.......
I'll say it again....I have never been paid or compensated to bash or promote any security. I have never been short Pavc or any name it used to have. I do not work for anybody but myself, I do not work for a hedge fund, a broker a MM or anybody else......
Anybody that thinks otherwise should report me to the authorities at once, because if your delusions are true, then what I am doing is highly illegal and I should be held accountable for my actions.
And good luck trying to prove the impossible....
me, a paid basher? LOL...TOO FUNNY......
But thats fine.....if yall think I am a paid basher, think what you want......I guess I should feel honored <lmao>
Nope, contrary to what most of you think, I do not enjoy watching decent innocent people getting screwed/shafted/scammed by the big boys.......
LMAO..........
How many times are you going to lie??
Why keep lying and saying you will not respond to me, only to lie everytime and respond?
You claim you dont care what I say...you think I am a crackpot..you think I am a liar...you repeatedly say you will NOT respond to me...and you keep responding......
You are nothing but a blatant liar and deceptive pumper...nothing more......You claim others think I am a 'Psycho'? LOL.....Great.......Do you have any idea how many PM's I have saying otherwise?? And how many that say you are a blatant liar and they were idiots for listening to you? Do you have any clue as to what your own actions caused and just how many people are doing everything in their power to ensure you are responsible for your actions? LMAO...And today you provided even more ammo by claiming how much you were in constant contact with the company and how they told you all of these things which you publicly shared...all of which were blatant lies....LOL..The company PLAYED you and you are too dumb to realize it....they KNEW anything they told you WOULD end up on the public boards..They USED YOU!! And you took the bait and now are in as much hot water as the company....
Enjoy your bath
Also, as I have said before..I DO expect people to get their shares...I also expect alot more games if the regulatory agencies dont shut them down.......
Too bad it is a TOS violation to re-post peoples PM's, as I would love to show you how many people are 'coming after you', as well as how many people have THANKED me for my opinions...
But thats fine...You keep thinking and doing as you please......But, if you are going to respond back to me, why not stop lying and making a fool out of yourself and stop saying you will NEVER reply to me again......you have said this MANY times, yet you always LIE and come back and respond to me...so, stop the lies....respond if you wish...but it is rather lame for you to say you will not respond, only to lie everytime and respond.....and you attack in your responses, which I find quite hypocritical......You and your 'cohorts' keep accusing me of 'attacking', when you fail to see that is exactly what you and your cohorts are doing......Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite........
Have a nice life..............
I'm sure YOU are sleeping just fine...far as I know, you dont have any reason to lose sleep...
Do Others??
YEP and again, I suspect they will find out the hard way
LOL...It is not my sledge hammer certain people have to worry about.
But I do believe the sledge hammer, and who will be dropping it, will be more then sufficient to ensure certain beds that were made are slept in by those who made them.....
LOL...yesterday you and others that came to your offense said you never said you were in constant contact with the company and knew everything that was going on...
Today you prove again you were lying, because here you are saying you were in CONSTANT contact with the company, was told alot of things and posted what you were told on the message boards.
The problem is, whether you are to be believed or not is irrelevant.......You are now admitting what you claimed I was LYING about....You DENIED ever posting the very stuff you are admitting to posting now!! Furthermore, who gives a $hit that you were in constant contact with the company, who told you all of these great things, so you posted them on the message boards, when the FACT is the company was LYING and all you did was PUMP their lies, causing others to lose..as you kept saying it was GUARANTEED!!!!!
LOL...And I see you are indeed very gullible as we now know as a FACT that this mess was NOT CAUSED BY THE BROKERS....Considering we now know this as fact, as the company has admitted the brokers got the TA ALL INFO REQUIRED ON THE FIRST REQUEST.....here you are posting publicly that this was 'caused by the brokers', even as the SEC is camped in the companies offices?? Sorry Dog....This mess was caused by A scammy company and it's TA.......For you to still claim this was caused by the brokers shows anybody that listens to you is taking a HUGE chance as you are 100% clueless.
And here you are again saying this will be settled by such and such date.....So how many times have you made similar posts and why has nothing you ever posted actually happened??? How many 'false alarms' did you post saying you spoke to the company and look for bla bla bla anyday....Yet not once did anything you claimed would happen actually happen.....yet here you are again, posting dates and that you think the company is an innocent pawn, harmed by the brokers...but in april, all will be fine......How pathetic.......The BROKERS were not at fault and that is know as a fact as the company has admitted that the Brokers were NOT at fault..the brokers COMPLIED to the TA's first request and the brokers actually supplied the TA MORE INFO then what was required.....yet you still did not get your shares...
Yet here you are, STILL, claiming something we now now to be factualy incorrect???
LOL.....This company has lied more times then I can count.....I especialy loved the 'we filed for the RS for strategic purposes, but have no intention of doing it'..only for them to do it and TRAP people by announcing it with 15 minutes in the trading day left and to go in to effect immediately...that was a good one imo......What I find a bit comical is that you have been lied to how many times? Yet you continue to believe the people that are lying to you?? LOL..OK..be my guest.....
Furthermore you keep implying that I am atacking others or taking out my frustration on others.....once again, it shows how few brain cells you have at work....Yes, I will respond to those that are lying and deceiving others..and that means I will respond to your blatant lies.....However, I dont see me attacking or taking out frustrations, as you claim, on innocent people that have done nothing.....You ONLY see me jumping on those that LIE and DECEIVE........If you dont like it, then stop your blatant lies and go crawl back under whatever scammy rock you crawled out from under....Continue to lie, and I will continue to expose your lies......For how long? I dont know as I strongly suspect I am going to be the least of your problems and you will soon have far bigger issues on your plate to deal with.....
<<Survivor has been on this board from way back in the JPHC days. He has admitted time and time again that he hasnt and doesnt own shares from JPHC-PAIV-PAVC.>>
False. I have posted many times that I traded JP actively for quite awhile with very good results...I posted I jumped on the 98% drop the friday it occured and got out the following monday with a ten bagger.
<<And when PAIV was making its big run, Survivor... disappeared off the boards for at least a month... then right after the debacle with the E-Trade/TDA air shares came out, and the issue went into the legal boundaries.>>
I never disappeared.....yes, I have health issues I am dealing with.....If I didnt post, it was due to more important things...and you are 100% dead wrong, as you claim I disappeared when it made the big run?? LOL...Then who made all of those posts under my name during the big run when you claim I was not here?? Did elves hijack my account and make these posts...because there they are for all to see....
<<All of a sudden... Survivor came back... and has been a subtle basher all this time.>>
Delusional and paranoid.....I dont bash...I make opinions...furthermore, isnt it interesting how my opinions became fact......
<<I have stayed away from here for the last several months because the market/sec/hedge funds ... the whole thing is crooked and not worth my time. Heck, in that time Ive made ALL the money Ive lost in 5 years back doing Forexx where the regulations are much more stringent since Currencies are world-wide, and follow 95% true to the news and to the market.>>
I'll give you credit where credit is due....folks unaware of forex or spot trading, are certainly missing out......
<<One thing to note as well... Survivor had a previous alias before switching to this one, and we had to listen to his sob stories about cancer ... no one really cared, but I guess he tried to spin it in between his bashing on stocks he never owned.>>
Nope....spin it however you want if it makes you feel better.....I have been on IHUB and SI for a LONG time.....The sites do allow you to change your alias.....I NEVER DID......My health issues enticed me to change my alias.....but I never had multiple aliases....and every post I made under KG4 is still here for all to see under Im a survivor.....but again, spin things anyway you wish.....LOL...I never owned JPHC?? OK....Are you willing to put some money on that???
<<And even if he DID ever own it at one point, the fact that he has said he doesnt own it, and still posts for nearly a year here proves that you cant beleive what he says anyway.>>
LOL...Thats fine...dont believe what I say...in fact, most of my posts clearly say DO NOT LISTEN TO ME........I still think it is ironic though...those that did listen, are PM'ing me left and right and thanking me..those that didnt listen...are whining and crying about their losses and why they dont have their shares and bla bla bla...so, believe whoever you want....I am not here to try to get people to 'believe me'. Folks need to believe themesleves, NOT an anonymous message board poster......
<<Time to leave again for a few months while the basher looks to help his shorters.>>
LOL.....Conspiracy theories are great arent they? Even when they are delusional! LOL...OK, I hereby ask EVERY memeber on this board to take ALL of my posts and report then to the proper authorities.....Inform them you believe I am short or acting in an illegal manner.....If that is what you really believe, you are an IDIOT for not reposrting me!!!! So, GO FOR IT...REPORT AWAY!!!!!!!
<<Are you tied to overseas hedge-Funds Survivor? You certainly have the earmarks of someone who is.>>
No. And if you think I am...if ANYBODY thinks I am, then you are FOOLS for not reporting me!!!!!!!
<<Argonath>>
And you sir have the earmarks of somebody who is pissed at others for their own stupidity and wish to deflect blame for your own stupid mistakes......
But, I look forward to you bragging some more about how much money you make......LMAO.....I cant help but laugh when folks start yapping about how rich they are getting....
LMAO......
Oh, it exists allright and some of you are certainly going to learn the hard way, imo.......Some of you are truly clueless......But thats fine...keep believing what you want....when the sledge hammer finally falls on some of you, enjoy trying to explain it to your family and have some money handy for an hefty retainer for your attorney......Tick Tock, Tick Tock.....
Sleep well....I do.....
lastly, do any of yall know what thew word hypocrite means? If not, look in the mirror for a true definition.....HILARIOUS that some of you ATTACKED me non stop....attacked me in the past non stop...are still attacking me non stop.....but yall whine and complain and say I am the one doing the attacking.....LMAO....OKEE DOKEE.....Sleep well......
Bla Bla Bla.......
No, giving you my screen name would NOT be proof.....
You seem hellbent on NOT believing anything I say, even though what I say is not in hindsight and I have called this very accurately since day 1........
No matter what screen name I gave you, you would respond that you never heard of it or whatever and accuse me of lying......
WHATEVER........I know what I know....I know what I have in writing...I know what I have printed out.....I KNOW I am not a liar and frankly could care less if blatant liars think I am lying......
The thing about blatant liars is since they are blatant liars, they assume others are as well.......Hence, you think I am lying.......but I really could give a rats A$$ what blatant liars think.........
Everybody with eyes can go and dig up the DOGS MANY posts with his GUARANTEES and his "I know everything there is to know about this company B.S."
And as far as the private chat...I know and you know the truth...and frankly so do others......In fact, you may not be too happy if you knew who has written documentation concerning public posts made by a few and of course you guys were not too bright to not be aware that almost every word in your private group was being documented the whole time since yall started that private group...and who now has all the public posts and documentation from your private chat?? All I will say is I hope everybody can back up what they said or claimed.......If not...certain individuals may be in far more hot water then even the company is in......
The dog did one very ( well several actually) stupid thing......he CONNED and deceived a few people with very deep pockets who now could care less about dropping a few bucks out of principle and are taking action.......
We all have to sleep in the beds we make........I wonder how well some of you will be sleeping in the not too distant future........I sleep just fine.
I have already answered this many times......it is a stock I used to actively trade that became the 'story stock' of 2006.
Keeping tabs on it is perferctly normal...knowledge is free and you can never have too much......
And yep, I am always interested in 'scammy games'...knowing how they work, helps you recognize these games and profit on them........
Furthermore, I have posted many times 'opinions' on what folks could do to get their shares....I see no reason in rehashing all that....look back at my posts if you are interested....
lastly, and I posted this several times as well...I asked why people are freaking out and not getting proactive to get their shares......I know of several people that have already settled their issues with the company and have moved on happily...I encouraged others to do the same.......I cannot help it if some people are smart and proactive and dont take B.S. and do what they have to to get what is rightfully and legally theirs, while others do nothing except complain on a message board.
If you want your shares..it is very simple...GET PROACTIVE, get your attorney and SETTLE with the company!! How many times do I have to say...IT IS ONLY PAPER....hint hint......
LOL....Try telling me something I dont already know <g>. I am well aware the stock opened down 98% at .0007 and eventually hit a high of around .25 or so.
Heck, I even posted many times that I recognized it that friday morning and loaded up between .0007 - .0011, so i not only did very well trading JPHC, I also was very content with my profits on the PAVC screw up.......
But, if you are going to point out the massive gains, you should also point out the massive losses. I have no doubt that alot of people made alot of profit on this...I also know that alot of people lost a fortune on this...sure, the 25,000% rise was nice, but it gave it ALL back rather quickly and then some.......after the 25,000% rise, it gave it back just as quickly, pulled the bogus RS and gave even more back.....So yes, I am well aware the rise the stock had and am also very aware of the huge multiple plummets the stock took. For every person that made a buck, there were probably 3 that lost......
Once this became a story stock, people were simply buying blindly and listening to all the pumps......The stock was rising fast...the pumpers were clamouring about how $1 will be anyday.....And folks listened to these pumps and bought this scam when it was quite high...in fact far more people bought this high and lost then caught the 98% drop and made profits.....
As far as 'attacking other posters'......If some see it as 'attacking' then whatever.....we all see things differently.....I know this much....I have been attacked by MANY...mostly the pumpers......and what do I do? I simply respond and point out their blatant lies....I dont have a tizzy because some anonymous message board poster says something 'bad' about me.....Furthermore......Who do you see me attacking? Innocent people that have been harmed by this scam? NOPE. I 'confront' the blatant liars.....I certainly dont just start attacking people for no reason.....and these blatant liars....if they are going to lie and deceive, then they best be prepared to sleep in the bed they make for themselves.......If they dont want to be 'confronted'...if they dont want their lies exposed, then they should stop their deceptive actions......If they continue to lie and deceive, they should expect to be 'confronted' and exposed......
I dont attack 'other posters'.....I do point out posters who are blatantly lying and being deceptive.
Obviously you are not bright enough to know the difference......
I clearly see me only getting on the cases of the deceptive people....I certainly dont attack innocent shareholders that were duped by this scam, but yep, I have no problem pointing out the posters who are blatantly lying...
Thats it...no more time for these ridiculous games...enjoy your weekend.....
<<But survivor doesn't even own shares and he personally attacks other investors...posters>>
Sorry...I am not a BASHER.......so no, I will not 'keep it coming'.
I WILL post when I see lies and deception if I have the time....But I dont post negtaive stuff 'just for the heck of it'......if people dont know how 'scammy' this whole deal was/is by now, no amount of 'bashing' will convince them and nor do I have any desire to 'bash'...But I will point out blatant lies and deception........
The funny thing is as scammy as this is, you are 100% correct...it does deserve to be beat to death on the boards...but the ironic thing is you dont see any bashers on PAVC......But the longs still think this is under attack by bashers......LOL......WHERE ARE all of these so called bashers, ripping this company apart all day, everyday, on several boards with many aliases??.....heck, I think I am the only one that even points out the negatives....but these people think this stock is being 'bashed'?? LOL....Wow, I cant imagine how many people on this board would have a storke if the bashers really did show up here and do their thing...and frankly, they would likely have every right to, as this certainly has been proven to be a less then honest company......maybe the longs will get their wish and the bashers will show up...that will be interesting to watch...if they cant handle me, true bashers in groups will destroy these people.....
<<"very unhappy, negative, depressing, hateful individual..."
Gee sort of describes the typical still-holding of JPHC limbo shares schmuck on Feb 9, 2007.
How could one be anything else having dealt with these PAIVIS boobs since, what May of last year?, with no results, no shares, no corporate update of ANY significance and an E for all of their efforts. This co deserves avery bit of hatred and vituperativness from its shareholders at this sad point in time.
survivor, keep it coming, kinda therapeutic. This co deserves no less than 24 hour per day abuse. IMHO only.
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LMAO...WHATEVER..........
LOL.....Really......all these posts I am holding in my hand are a mirage?? All the PM's from people claiming they listened to the Dogs GUARANTEED pumps and lost their ass......none of that actually happened? All these people now watching his every word and compiling info on him and others are not real people?? LOL..OK..sure......
How lame......But whatever...I have better things to do then argue with blatant liars, so ta ta......
<<"I also find it odd that he posted GUARANTEES and really was pushing hard to get people to buy"
Sorry again bub.....never happened..
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I guess soembody hijacked his account and made all of these posts I am holding in my hand??
Hmm....if somebody hijacked my account and was posting under my account and saying such things, I would do something about it.....
So, I guess the dog is either a liar or somebody who allows others to post using his account?!
<<"He REPEATEDLY said he knew more about this company then anybody"....
So sorry...never happened....lol
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LMAO.......Wow, talk about more lies......Of course you were the moderator of the private chat....YOU are the one who BANNED me from the private site the day the merger was announced, when yall were planning your 'public pumping' and when I commented I would not be part of that and felt it was wrong, you banned me......But considering you were part of the effort to pump and deceive, does anybody with a brain think you will admitt it? No of course not..your doing exactly what deceptive people do...not admitt your deception and try to play the innocent sheep.
And yes, I do know what was going on in the private room.....until you banned me.....and yep, many in the group were crying and whining like little school kids and then the talk of the fact that yall had a large group and could go 'work the public boards', which may help prop the pps up and maybe entice buyers so yall can sell a little higher. I have no doubt that many of you still have shares, but I also know that many of you blatantly lied in an effort to pump so yall could dump as high as you could......
As far as my credibilty being zero...LOL..whatever......I have only given opinions...and most all my opinions turned out to be true.......You are blatantly lying, yet I am the one with zero credibility?? LOL.....OK hotshot..whatever you say.....
LOL...More lies??? How many times have you said you were never responding to me again? MANY!! Yet everytime you LIE and post to me.........
Dog, I have your posts PRINTED OUT...I am looking at them as I type and guess what...I see the word GUARANTEE more times then I can count...in fact as I re-read your PUMPS, I see an awful lot of pure 100% blatant lies.
Show them to you?? LOL...sorry.....If you cant click on your own name and read your own posts, you are not very bright, imo.....But I have no intention of going back and copy and pasting your MANY posts...ANYBODY can go look at them...and many have them printed.......You caused people to lose alot of money with your blatant lies..if you think these people you duped are happy, you are a nut...MANY of them have been documenting your every word posted on every board on every site you go to and are planning to make your life very interesting......
YOU made your bed, so be prepared to sleep in it my friend.
As far as the rest of your rubbish.....so, you dont think I belong in the markets, huh?
Glad you think that way, but it means nothing to me.....I enjoy profits and honesty...you seem to enjoy losses and playing games filled with lies and deceit......
Nor am I a past disgruntled angry investor taking things out on others.....I happened to make very good money trading JPHC and the only thing I am disgruntled about is the company said they would be selling macro to a legit player in VOIP only to lie and sell out to another scam company with very odd terms, that have gotten messier by the day.....And yep, I dont like seeing people lie and deceive causing others to lose money.....so yep, I think the company pulled a fast one...actually several of them on unsuspecting retail folk and then of course people like you who pop up PUMPING BLATANT LIES.....I will certainly direct my anger at somebody deceiving others and if you dont like it, then stop deceiving people or be prepared to face the consequences of your actions......
Dog, do you sleep well at night knowing your every word is being documented? Do you sleep well knowing there is a group that is pretty po'd at your blatant lies and this group is intent on proving you a lesson? Do you sleep well knowing the SEC and other regulatory agencies read your every word??
ta ta......and if you have said you are not going to post to me or reply to me so many times, why do you keep LYING and continue to post to me? I guess once lying is in your blood, it becomes part of your everyday life/routine?!
LOL...Talk about delusional.....
I use one alias and one only.....I have only posted about this company on this board and maybe less then 10 total posts on SI.
I post nowhere else...I use no other aliases....and I certainly do not post non stop, nor do I try to 'save people'
In fact, in most of my posts I clearly say DONT LISTEN TO ME...do your own DD........
Furthermore, your words do not harm or bother me at all.....You are defending a known blatant liar that pumped with deception causing others to lose money...meanwhile, I get bombarded with PM's from people saying they wish they had listened to my opinions instead of thinking I was a basher and ignoring my opinions and listening to the pumps instead. Do you have any idea how many people PM me crying/whining about how screwed they are...how much money they lost because they listened to idiot pumpers...and these people beg me asking "what can I do"......And my response is same as always...DONT LISTEN and ACT on what a STRANGER says on a message board...and go talk to your lawyer......But, the few people that think I am a basher pales to the number of people that PM me thanking me....and saying they are glad they listened to my opinions as it saved them huge losses or they wish they had listened to me inbstead of the B.S. pumps, which caused them to lose huge.
In any event, I'll say it again....do not listen to me or any message board poster...do your own dd and make your own decisions.....
but thanks for the laugh...it really is quite hilarious watching you defend somebody who blatantly lied, pumped with GUARANTEES non stop...got others to help him pump this GUARANTEED GET RICH DEAL......but you are now calling me a basher.....
By the way....I guess I will point out that you are 100% clueless. You claim below that this was one of my very first posts on JPHC Boards. Sorry as you are 100% dead wrong....I likely knew about JPHC before you ever heard of them, but you claiming the below was "one of your first posts on the JPHC boards" shows just how wrong you are......And in less then 5 minutes you could find MANY posts I made about JPHC, but instead you show your lack of credibility and prove that you have no clue what you are talking about.....I only post on 2 sites and under one alias, so if you cant find posts I made about JPHC going alot further back then the one below, then you are not very bright/swift, imo.....
LMAO...Thanks for the great Friday laugh, though.......
<<What still strikes me as funny is you are still here trying to "save" other posters and here is a flash from the past...one of your first posts on the JPHC boards: maybe you should look in the mirror..
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Um, I hate to inform you of this, but I likely was 'trading' jphc before you. To claim I just showed up out of the blue is kinda funny......I traded JPHC for awhile and have 'been here' quite a long time.......
Furthermore, this is one of the 'story stocks of the year'....
Considering I traded JP for a long while and then they created the story stock of the year, why would you be surprised that I am still watching it? Do you only watch stocks that you currently own??
As far as your accusations that I show up here and attack......Nope, I call it as I see it, plain and simple.....I havent even mentioned the dog in a long time.....but he showed up and posted that hilarious post about how he is PO'd at the company, so I responded.......Sorry, but I dont like liars/con artists that attempt to decieve others....
Furthermore, is it not odd that his GUARANTEES never happened....NOT A SINGLE ONE...yet my OPINIONS have all been pretty much proven to be accurate??
I also find it odd that he posted GUARANTEES and really was pushing hard to get people to buy.....and all I did was post OPINIONS while saying DONT LISTEN TO ME OR ANYBODY BUT YOURSELF.....So, as he is PUMPING and PUSHING hard to get people to listen to him and buy, I only posted opinions and told people to not listen to me...make your own buy and sell decisions......Those that listened to his guarantees and hard pumping to buy this guaranteed get rich deal, lost huge.....yet my opinions, in which I never told people to buy or sell....turned out to be 100% dead on accurate........and would have saved people huge losses had they listened. Instead they listen to the guaranteed blatant lies, ignore the unbiased opinions, yet I am the bad guy? LMAO....OK.....
Like I said, no, I am not his broker and no I do not have his trading records....if you can read, I clearly said I only know what I read and hear and what I read and heard was him and many others SELLING SHARES while orchestrating some public scheme to pump this scam......
Have a nice day.
Sorry........Not buying it. I KNOW what was going on in that 'private group'.....
Furthermore, his own public posts show he was not posting an opinion, he was claiming he had the inside scoop and REPEATEDLY said this was a GUARANTEED deal that would make everyone rich. he PUMPED THIS WITH BLATANT LIES...he certainly was not posting 'opinions' and the posts are right here for you to look at/read.
He REPEATEDLY said he knew more about this company then anybody, was in close contact with management and knew everything that was going on and that this was a GUARANTEED money maker...and at .20, he was still saying it was guaranteed and $1 would happen anyday and those that dont buy will miss out......
Furthermore, you list all of these people and then claim that you know whether they sold or not, how many shares they had and etc, etc, etc.....Are you the broker for these people and giving out confidential information? I didn't think so. So all you know is what you were told...and what you were told was told to you by liars....in any event, it always amuses me when an individual claims to know the trading records of many different people.....I dont claim to know his or anybodies trading records.....I just know what I read and hear and what I read and heard was very disturbing as, in private there was ALOT of talk about how screwed everybody was and then an orchestrated plan to get as many people as possible to post publicly about what a great deal this is and how many shares they are holding........And then the Dod as an individual has MANY posts in which he claims he KNOWS everything and guarantees that anybody buying this company will be VERY happy.....Would you like for me to count up the number of posts in which he said this??? And the only people that are happy are the ones that played the initial 98% drop and got out before it collapsed and pulled this bogus RS they said they werent going to do.....Anybody that actually bought when the Dog was GUARANTEEING great riches, took a HUGE bath, as his GUARANTEES and PUMPS really kicked in to high gear when it rose to the .15 - .20+ level and if folks bought his guarantees at those levels, they lost huge........
As far as I should stop calling him a liar.......Why?? he is what he is....and it can be proven.....did somebody else hijack his account and make all those B.S. 'guaranteed' posts? No, he made them...and he blatantly lied.
But now he is over here whining and crying and saying he is PO'd at the company?? LMAO...Now that is FUNNY!!!!
If he was stupid enough to be told things by LIARS and stupid enough to post what he was told under his name and claim it was 'guaranteed', then he is a fool, which would be better then a blatant liar...but, it is what it is.......and neither you nor I can change what is in the past and is FACTUAL.....
LOL...."trust you"???
Why would anybody trust somebody that PUMPED this scam REPEATEDLY telling people HUGE GAINS were GUARANTEED and you implied over and over that you had the 'inside scoop' and knew this as a fact......How many people did you DUPE in to buying this scam while you were dumping, that lost alot of money??
And yes, dont even try to deny it......You and your buddies in your private chat were FREAKING out when they announced the bogus merger with jp and ap. All yall said was the company lied to you..they sold out to another scam company while telling us they would be selling to alegit big player...the deal was a scam......the company could not be tyrusted and then all of you decided to work together and strat posting publicly saying how great this deal was....and yall did that BOGUS 'share count' as to who was holding how many shares in to the merger and all most of the people that were posting they were going to hold XXXXX shares as the deal is awesome, were really DUMPING as you were pumping..and this continued as the games went on.
How do you live with yourself?? You came here and BLATANTLY LIED, causing many to lose money.....And that sir is a 100% FACT. YOU KNOW IT and I KNOW IT......You PUMPED this with BLATANT LIES, while KNOWING it was a scam and while you and your pumper buddies were selling.....That is a FACT!!
Shocking to see you come back here and post.......IMO, you belong in jail for your blatant actions.....You are as much a con artist as there is, imo.......
Would you care to explain what happened to this great guaranteed deal that was to get everyone rich?? Dont bother as your 'explanation/excuse' cannot be 'trusted'. Once a liar, always a liar and I for one would not believe a single word coming from your mouth, KNOWING you are a blatant liar who attempts to deceive others for their own personal gains......Go crawl back under whatever hole you came out of...it may be safer for you as the authorities get involved.
Yep....agree with you 110% as well...great post!!
<< totally agree Survivor. Told my wife the other day that the market is so vast, so complex and so intertwined, plus the collusion at all levels, that it seems criminal acts are actually rising.
No regulatory agency is really capable/willing to keep tabs on it all...especially when they are part of the collusion and treachery as the SEC, DTCC and MM's appear to be IMO.
Plus the crooked companies which intended from the onset, to do nothing, own nothing, sell nothing...just issue shares.
No, IMO the only way to win is to catch the "crumbs" by playing the game. Follow the MM axes. Just flip the living crap out of every stock as often as you can at the levels NITE and a few others post. Buy at their bid...sell at their ask.
P.S. For long term profits, buy shares of NITE ... on dips of course.
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As far as this link.....I am already aware of this.....I have heard it all before......
Will anything be done finally to stop the corruption? I have no idea......It is 2007 and there has been corruption that high up for a long, long time.....and for a long, long time, we have heard it was going to stop......yet the corruption not only continued, it got worse with the advent of the internet and a whole lot worse the last few years as most are now on the internet, making 'corruption' much easier to get away with and much easier to accomplish with so many 'naive eyes' on the internet.
So, will anything happen to curb the corruption? I have no idea....hopefully so, but this is something I will believe when I actually see it and actually see results.....other 'actions' have been done to curb the corruption, yet the results were not there....nothing got better....things only got worse....so, I will believe it when I actually see results.......and lets remember...the big boys will always set the rules and always 'run the show'....
Your link takes me to a page that says STORY NOT FOUND.
How about copy and pasting the story/article.....Or if it is indeed gone, then what did it say and I'll tell you if I saw it and/or what my thoughts are...........
Agree 110%
I used similar analogies to describe many 'casino companies'. One I remember from years ago....it was 3 people between 22 - 26 years of age.....went public as a pinky......kept 'morphing' biz models for years ( did I mention they ran this out of their 3 bedroom apartment<lol>)....When they were an 'entertainment' company, all of the PR's talked about how they intended to seek deals...were in talks with...and etc, etc...companies such as Warner Bros. , Paramount and etc....then they moved in to the 'entertainment novelty' biz and the pr's said they were in talks and hoping to strike deals with 7-11, wallmart and etc.....
It is all in the wording and 100% legal.....of course they dont mention their 'talks with paramount' consisted of a singe phone call to the secretary....or that the talks they had to get products in to wallmart was with their dog, who doesnt have the authority to act on behalf of wallmart<g>...but, they did talk to the dog, so perfectly legal to PR it, worded correctly of course.....
Heck, I can put out a PR and say I am in talks to aquire GOOG. I wont mention that my 'talks' were with my neighbor when I asked him if he thought GOOG would sell me controlling interest for $5........
yep, very typical.......Heck, when VOXBOX announced that forward split and I did a re-look at their pr's of the past 2 years....it is all the same...look how many pr's they put out...look at the wording...look at how not a single thing they said or claimed they were 'working on', 'in talks with', 'looking to aquire' and etc, etc, ever happened...but, due to the wording, it was perfectly legal...but once again, this is the NORM not the exception in this arena, and most in this arena use 'iffy' wording to hype even what they know will never happen.....and they do it legally....