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most investors here know that paulson, dodd, frank, and others forced freddie and fannie to take bad debt for years. laywers know it as well. the government didnt bail out the gse's, the whole thing just caught up with them and now they want the companies and its shareholders to pay for their sins.
it will be something to watch. banks pay up, gse's are profitable, government has a choice at that point to let it go or make another mistake. and it will be huge either way. one way the economy wins big, the other the government takes one of its last breaths before big changes occur. which will it be!
It would be a good chance to see a class action against the government, they print money daily so its not that there is a limit on what it could be worth. shareholders may have a field day with this one, gonna be very interesting to see how the idiots in washington avoid lawyers who actually earn a living. gonna be very exciting to watch. what was the share value before the Paulson stepped in and drove the world into recession, 5 dollars?
sorry little one, im not impressed, nor do I agree
huh, sorry, your wrong.
but the big deal about these companies is what they can do for the economy. Obama clearly does not understand that the shadow freddie and fannie put across the econimic revival is like a dam holding back a lake. once people and the market see confidence and stability through releasing them out of conservatership, the economy would rock and the markets would fly. possibly dow thru 20k.
there has been very little proven here one way or the other. yes they had an order, but its also a public company as it sits, its a penny stock down from a dollar stock.
Its a risk worth watching and working with. it may turn out great here, but there are thousands of folks saying the same thing about hundreds of other companies. few will be right, but I do hope positive opinion wins here.
correct. fort drum is also almost empty, lots of empty space all around. watertown is way up there and is considered upstate ny near adarondacks to anyone other than NYC. upstate to them is anything above white plains.
I think they were in syracuse when when talking, hancock is home of 174th, a big deal in the gulf war days. they moved most ops up to fort drum when it downsized and hancock grew.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/02/alliance_of_new_york_massachus.html
No doubt. solar and scty are in synch, if it blasts off again, so will this stock.
Im sure it wont top 300 like fslr did once, its not the same anymore nor are they manufacturers. but then again, scty has an advantage over the manufacturers as you know. they can be selective
I mentioned Africa, and Google here before. It is a developing market over there. Focus over there may even help get them out of the 3rd world.
http://www.businessinsider.com/africas-technology-market-2013-2
Not sure if WSIG has momentum over there, Africa is serious about poaching problems, and I do know there is interest in tracking.
there seem to be a couple markets opening over there!
SCTY near 52 week high. so is GE. Although both are relaxed today.
where from here for either is guesswork.
you would think the products in development and its patents, along with current battery offerings and its patents and associated wins, this company would have as many or more suiters than A123?
It does not, nor is there much info other than what you have posted, pointing in the direction of selling assets. I smell a rat or two, which does not fare well for any potential investors, or intested parties in what is a huge patent portfolio.
just siting tight right now. too many other things going on right now, but I am Eyeballing GE.
if the BIB becomes a popular item, considering they are selling to DOD, then they could easily sell more with 50/50 contracts, half now then half on delivery. DOD is a good enough reference to anyone. if it takes off they should have revenue and bills coming and going the same month. until then, its kinda risky right now. but could easily blast off anytime with business, no financing needed. Im watching cause if it happens it would be by april or may. if it dont, it just sits on the watch list for many people I suppose.
rw, with that many shareholders, they must be all over the country. Not sure it could sell just yet. I would rather buy the stock on its way up. it would help the company by absorbing the float. LJ is the worst thing other than toxic financing you can get. they have to stop it and find alternatives such as contract revenue or a joint venture with capitol funding.
I agree, there is always a company like newbies google or facebook, that have money and resources to open up new markets. mainly if they see the future down the road, R&D into such devices are where they want to be anyhow.
"Thanks IJO for checking,would like to see a device like that.A GSAT "phone"..... which would be a receiver/or repeater without speakers/phonepad ,but with bluetooth ability that would allow transmition to/from a regular cell phone when needed. Agree it would be have to be a GSAT/SPOT product not GTC/WSGI but would open new doors for our revenue. It would complement current cell phone companies ,not compete with them,imo."
If I knew the right people in the industry, one could plead help to nitche ideas this company has.
once they get past proving the not only have moxy, and now orders, but have leadership that takes them to the next level, it would be easy to attract big league help.
yet someone is accumulating this stock and I have no idea why.
the best thing they had going for the stock was the unknown, the curtain is up now. what you learn this time may not apply next time cause the market often defies logic. This stock is too risky one way or the other, its a show to me and very serious to those who may have lost hard earned money.
Im more worried about our government casually giving away the kitchen sink. those that make these inconceivably stupid decisions in this country will not have to see the consequences of their decisions, our children will. not to mention the hundreds of millions of tax dollars that went down the sinks drain.
freddie will do very good if and when released from cship. as long as they dont do something foolish, unfortunately washington is full of foolishness and greed.
if f and f are released, they will give a boost to the whole market, I believe its one of the most important things to blasting out of any gravity by a recesssion, and would spark an economy never seen before.
this is all for not if the wrench is thrown in, north korea and usa, china and japan, israel and surrounding muslims.
shares will trade as long as there is a market for them. its still tradable, and there are unknowns.
it is a national security issue so you may see the bid process again. I would think anyone owning before bk would want this, cause if there is no bid, and it get through as is, it will end like most every other bk scenario.
another words, if one states this deal goes through, its likely they may not understand what will most likely happen, or its a trading thing.
they made their gains and got out. its not them you need to follow, unless it does go down to where they reload.
I think news of EU and a third dip was what brought it all on. its really upcoming numbers that are important dont you think?
they have done very well since december.
he is one to follow, he seems to closely resemble Jobs.
SCTY took a breather today
whats the difference, does not change reality. billionairs have been made by someone else's ideas that they could not market.
perfect example is apple, steve jobs was given GUI, he had no clue it existed. his great mind knew the Park from xerox was the future even if xerox thought little of it and practically gave it to him after all their hard work.
one of steves most famous quotes Im sure will be in a movie was: Scully, do you want to sell sugar water the rest of your life, or come with me and change the world.
he had the wrong religion, but did change the world, apple sits on 100 billion in cash today.
I remember when I told someone about apple in 2002. I saw his comeback and knew his ability from watching him build apple in the face of microsoft. I told that person if you have any extra cash for investing to buy apple, it was at 12. I said you will never see it this low again.
dont confuse my statement with where wsgi is going, its sort of a similar thing but possibly on an infinately smaller scale. I dont see steve here, but I like watching underdogs and hope do good things.
lol, made my day my friend.
anyone who knows the history of Israel is wiser than when he did not.
the financing that wsgi took on a while back was not toxic because it was not floorless. but it had room to roam, they need to get away from anything to do with financing of that sort. it has driven stocks into the ground because of who it attracts. I almost consider this a buy, they have done good. but not really unless its no longer a one trick pony, thats the signal Im waiting for. it gets them away from financing, opens up new areas of growth, allows profits and allows for share buyback before price gets away from them. its the float into the equation that will define the upper limits of share price, anyone who says different dont know much or is in denial or they are in too deep.
been around a long time, until wsgi gets on a more reputable exchange, you get what you get, manipulation. its a game, and has less to do with the stock or any fundamentals until there is pressure. the fundamentals are used as a trading tool on the otc more than a valuation.
my guess, it may see 7.5 if this is an inflection point in the companies operations. higher depends on float and forecast.
Ford, I cant see why it wont go to 19, other than China and Japan going to war and we get involved with Japan as a result. Ford is running on all cylinders, they increased divs, they have quality products, and asia loves them. for now anyhow, any thoughts?
maybe not below 13 anymore, SCTY almost sweet 16.
Dont know who GS is, but its no one that I need to advise from. this is very good news here folks. its a milestone than many try to get to but cannot.
as far as stock price today, its surprising that it did not go up higher unless you look at historical transactions. the key going forward in volume and buy/sell volumes, and yes, short interests. right now there is about 600k available to short. was not watching trend before now.
up 2 dollars/share since our last posts on it.
AONE with a pop the last couple days. why I dont know, i do know that VIA is looking good at the auto show. not even sure they use A123 anymore but its a coincidence at least that the pop is in synch with the show.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/01/16/via-motors-unveils-70-mpg-off-road-pickup-truck/
indeed. will it stay, or where next.
http://www.investmenttools.com/futures/bdi_baltic_dry_index.htm
it will always be here. SCTY may have over extended in price, and I think you could get in cheaper. its a volitile sector, but thats where opps are found, right?
http://beta.fool.com/stockriters.com/2013/01/11/the-future-looks-bright-for-these-solar-energy-sto/21235/?source=eogyholnk0000001
SCTY up 10% again. simply amazing? or short term gains?
this one is owned by large fish at this point. once you see this and other SCTY boards fill up with minnows, its a sign of saturation. I think its got a long way to go, I imagine Elon thinks the same.
check out SCTY, forgot about it during the holiday and it takes off on me.
Ford closed at 13.46 today.
you firmly believe, and its your opinion? fairly odd statement, what do you base this firmly believed opinion on?
I would say yes, who would be here continously unless they were?
I also like to add that if they did come out with news before the end of the year, today would most likely have sent the stock price into orbit. just as well, I have some shares but would like to see results before I buy more. and a moon shot would have not given me a chance eh.
more like 19 I believe
broke through the 52 week high. and it still has legs I believe. Im thinking 17-19 in 2013.