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Well there better be some news. There is no reason for a stock to go up, unless there is news of progress. If there is none I would rather see B line, or small gains and losses.
If a stock goes up rapidly without no news, I will consider that a pump, and It will just upset shareholders and cause this stock to drop significantly on a dump.
What happend to cause this stock to go up today. charts dont make stocks go up.
32 medipendants sold World Wide in 48 hours. That is less than awesome news.
That is less than 1 medipendant an hour. More people die from unknown rare diseases than medipendants being sold.
Nothing is going to happen with this stock until the next PR. So dont hold your breath.
Why wouldnt anyone buy into something that has no info on sells.
Just hold on though we will here news by the end of the month.
No foundation. Just dilution.
Im curious who would be selling there stock, if the news is good. Probably MDHI. Has anyone checked the O/S as of today.
This particular unit does not emit any emissions. That is what makes it unique.
To date, no piece of mobile technology has been developed or utilized that can quickly be dispatched to remediate waste without negative by-products like emissions, ash, or remnants. At the same time the Arc Master I can generate FREE electricity or natural gas that can be utilized on site to power additional equipment, operating bases, or living quarters. The Arc Master I can safely remediate all forms of hazardous, biological and common wastes.
http://www.visionplasma.com/importance.html
Show me an incinerator that does not emit emissions.
The answere lies on the performance results from Japan. If they are good reviews we will see sales.
Transportation is the problem.
Plasma Gasification has been around since the 70's. The requirment for the enormous facilities is 200k tons a day. Vision plasm took that process into a mobile format which has not been accomplished by anyone else. The 2 sent to Japan that they are talking about in the article are the 2 that vision plasma sent. Japan would not have anything to worry about if they could just throw all those suits into the back of a truck and contaminate the contryside.
Hence the whole reason there are rules about transporting hazardous waste in certain areas, and the cost to transport hazardous waste is high. Thats where Vision Plasma makes sense. Cost of transporting waste to different locations when it could be processed at the source.
If it costs my single home 550 dollers a year to get rid of normal household waste. Immagine how much a Hospital or other major facilites spend to get rid of there Hazardous / normal waste.
I wish this company would make a unit for my house, so I can turn my trash into energy. It would save me lots of money in the long run.
Waste Management is 550.00 a year.
Electricity is 1400.00(Average) a year for my small home. If I could get a resourful small Home edition I could save money. Shoot my neighbors could dump there trash in my unit also. More energy.
Exactly. Why would the company need to dilute shares if they were making money. Even after the news about selling 4500 medipendant's they went from 560 mil to 629 mil. Why?
It doesnt make sense that a company selling their own product would need to delute shares. Unless they are not selling enough product to pay for normal operations and inventory. Or they really didnt sell 4500.
IDK maybe people just need to do the DD and look at MDHI's Financials.
ohh wait there are none. GLTA
Whats wrong with working out of your house. Do you go to an office and work on stocks. Maybe if your a broker.
Why does this guy need to pay money for an office, he is using his contacts with Government affiliates to sale these Arc Master 1 Units.
Is that the CEO of APS.
There is Flipping and Investing. If you chose VLNX to flip it, then you are too late; the APS pick screwed alot of people.
If you are investing in VLNX, then we are waiting on reviews from Japan.
This stock will most likely go down to trip 0's. If there is not news soon.
Remember your 2 best friends are DD and Risk Managment.
R/
Slyder009
Pedro there will most likely be 3 sides to the story.
I have called Kaes and the company does exist, and they confirmed that they are in partnership with vision plasma systems. That was all he said.
As far as further information from the company itself, they are waiting on info from this.
These initial units will be used to remediate over 5,000 hazmat suits used daily by cleanup crews working in the Fukushima Nuclear Facility, at a cost of $5.8 Million USD per unit.
Pending review of this initial performance of the ArcMaster I units' remediation capabilities, Vision Plasma Systems feels optimistic that "...the company could see as many as an initial 23 more units on current Cell Runner proposals," stated CEO Timothy P. Volk.
http://www.visionplasma.com/press-08-16-2012.html
Argue all you want, but as soon as the review hits, I will know if I want to be long with this company.
The 3 sides of the story will be if Japan say's yes this product rocks, or we need further testing for the performance, or we dont like it.
Based off this review we could see a domino effect in sales with other companies or .0001 pps.
R/
Slyder009
sorry guys wrong board.
why would anyone sell. As soon as the next PR comes out there will be a big flip, unless you dont mind loosing money.
Just playing the waiting game.
No problem
Word is:
If your planning on APS you might want to get out, as there is not much confidence that it will pop tomorrow.
If your in it for a long haul you might have a good chance at picking up low shares after the APS pop does not go through.
Future of the company is depending on good reports of the 2 units shipped to Japan, which will help on future sales for the company.
GLTA
Slyder009
Costco does not solve everything. They just want something of everything on there website. Not everything on the website sells like it does in stores. I looked at some of the other things Costco sales on there website and I wonder how well the Urns or Castkets are selling. Probably alot; to hold all the ashes from MDHI's paper machine, being burned by dilution.
Has the O/S increased.
Actual PPS based off pure speculation, and not accounting for production cost and everything else, would need to sell 20 Arc Master 1 Units.
Im sure these things are cheap to make.
The gods speak to me, and as i recall he said there is a hurricane comming named Isaac. These Natural disasters are messy. By the way here is a list of what these Arc Master 1 Units can be used for. Link provided below
The Arc Master I has responsible utility across many industries:
Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief operations where the timely remediation of waste is critical to avoid the promulgation of disease, while also providing essential electrical power and heat to areas that are isolated due to disaster.
Medical and pharmaceutical wastes, includiong dangerous pathogens.
Hazardous industrial chemical wastes. Especially those that readily form carcinogenic dioxins can be eliminated.
Complex modern batteries (Lithium, NiCad, Alkaline and others).
Contaminated oil, water and soils.
Electronic waste remediation - recovery of precious metals and rare earth minerals.
Excess electrical energy production from high BTU wastes (e-wastes, rubber, plastics, tires, common medical waste, etc).
Military Forward Operating Bases (FOBs) - to stop the practice of open pit burning.
The Arc Master I, using a four man team, can be operational within thirty minutes of delivery, and on shut down can be ready for transport in less than two hours.
The two container engineering design enables the operators to perform all the necessary recurring maintenance or repairs on site.
SCADA electronic management, enables wireless control and reporting ... for multiple systems operating at a common site.
http://www.visionplasma.com/utility.html
For the clean up there is alot more things than can use these AMU(Arc Master Units I just made this abreviation up) for more than just Hazmat suits. All the trash and debris caused by the disaster is plausibly Hazmat now. Why would anyone need 25 of these units just to dispose of Hazmat suits. 25 units can dispose of 125,000 tons of Hazardous material a day. Big picture they probably want to use these to clean up more than just hazmat suits.
For hospitals - Hospitals are full of Hazardus waste. anything in contact with Bodily fluids is considered a biohazard.
Military Facilities, shoot throw a few of these on an aircraft carrier, and properly dispose of their waste when they get into a port. If they can take care of hazardous waste properly, then they can take care of just waste properly. Or they can convert this into usable energy.
The ideas of what these can do is almost limitless. One of the huge advantages to these machines is it converts the waste into usable energy called syngas. Im not going to explain it just do some research. Its pretty cool.
The future of this company all depends on what Japan says about the Arc Master 1 unit.
If it works good, I can almost bet Arc Master 1 unit will be on CNN news under the Japan progress, and other companies will want one.
Read into these PR's. Extremely Optimistically we are looking at 53 units. Remember though, they are trying to sell them, technically non have sold just signed for. I dont know what signed for means until you read financials.
Japan - signed for 2(does this mean bought i dont know) but 2 were sent to dispose of 5,000 hazmat suits a day. Which is quite alot of hazmat suits.
Vision Plasma Systems, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: VLNX) announced today that an agreement from Cell Runner Inc. of Japan has been signed for the purchase of two (2) Arc Master I Units. These initial units will be used to remediate over 5,000 hazmat suits used daily by cleanup crews working in the Fukushima Nuclear Facility, at a cost of $5.8 Million USD per unit. Pending review of this initial performance of the ArcMaster I units' remediation capabilities, Vision Plasma Systems feels optimistic that "...the company could see as many as an initial 23 more units on current Cell Runner proposals," stated CEO Timothy P. Volk
So they could purchase more. The company probably estimated optimistically to clean up the incident you would want 23 more, but they can do less than that, but it would just take longer for the clean up.
Second PR:
Completely different set of units. KAES is trying to get Government facilites and Hospitals to buy these 28 units.
Vision Plasma Systems, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: VLNX) today announced it has secured a sales and marketing agreement with Kaes Enterprises of Puyallup, WA. to secure federal contracts and management expertise for the deployment of the Arc Master I systems to the Veterans Administration hospitals as well as major western US major military installations for 28 Arc Master I units, representing possible sales of $139 Million USD.
Japan wants to fix the facility incedent sooner than later. If the Arc Master system has good performance, why would they not order more? How many Gasification machines are on the market anyway. I will check Amazon, somone else check Ebay.
I like that no one is selling less than .025. People are trying to get it less than that but its not selling below it.
It doesnt matter how much you polish a turd. Its still a turd in the end.
This stock is not going anywhere fast. IF they were generating revenue then why dont they have stock. Ok so they sold all there stock after selling 4500 as PR'd. So they spent all there money on warrents, but now have no more medipendants to sell.
That is awesome news. So what now delute shares to make more medipendants.
Your numbers are wrong. They have sold 2 units to Japan, and none else. They have the possibility of selling 28 more but these have not happend yet.
So for guestimation purposes 5.8 mil per unit * 2 units is only 11.6 mil take that by O/S gives us .0314. If they sell the 28 + 2(japan) then it would be 375 mil / 174 mil = .464.
Guestimation due to no financials.
KAES Enterprises is a real company, just verified that. Also they are assisting in the marketing and selling of the Arc Master 1 systems as PR'd. He couldnt say anything past that.
What we really need is to find out who is dumping these millions of shares. If somone has info that would be useful, it would also help us determin how many more times this is going to happen.
If you watch the stock price vs these volume dumps you will see that it goes up and then million share dumps mess up our gains and causes instability. It happend 3 times today.
Without those huge dumps this stock would be in the .10's +.
I confirmed O/S and A/S is current as today.
So if there is no company dilution, there is a bottom and that is when the shareholders hold the shares.
Good news though, O/S is current at 371 mil and A/S is current at 500 mil. There has been no change in this. I contacted my broker to make the phone call to First American Stock Transfer and they got that info for me.
If they are getting rid of 50 mil shares, what the trend is (check out the volume) every time it went to .031 1+ mil shares would dump until it went to .0275, the back up to .031. Nobody that bought shares would dump them while going up. It doesnt make sense, unless the company is dumping at the .03 range. It has to end or this stock will be at support lvl 2 in 3 months.
Thank you,
They are currently closed but I will call first thing in the morning.
And for the other guy, I have called transfer agents before and found out the O/S of a company. Unless the T/A is gagged, I have not had issues in the past getting O/S.
As for the current A/S that was current as Dec 31, 2011. I am curious what it is now.
O/S is one thing you do not want to be ignorant of. Because if the company is going to sell a bazzillion shares at whatever price, then no matter what this company is worth or what they P/R you will not see a comeback.
I want to call up the Transfer Agent and find out what the O/S is.
When the company finished dumping shares we will go up, that is if they dont dump too many shares.
I have 2 questions for the CFO:
1: Who is the Transfer Agent
2: How much more delution are we going to see.
High Volume of selling.
Up it goes. Strong buys are in. By end of day we will see the end of the .02's and we will be strong in the .03's. Those that want out are getting out right now.
Well im from Washington and im going to check this Kaes company out.
Regardless of whats happening, I believe delution will help me get my price of .018 today. If not then I will miss my buy in and you guys will have a rockin BB day with the ride up.