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one dollar a share???
Henry Hill says "fuggagetta bout it"
not really, I have a lot of shares to sell.
OH, by the way,, what do you think will happen if this stock tries to zooms up?
Well, right now there are very few shares, relatively speaking, out of the 625 million fully diluted
that are "on the market" or will be on the market anytime soon. But if the stock should jump,
these share will hit the market and drive the price way down (remember there is a lot of pent up
desire to sell given the stock--and management's-- pathetic history. There are owners out there, in addition to management, that have MILLIONS of shares to sell.
Now, you know the basic laws of supply and demand don't you.
Try to sell a million shares today (HA HA HA)
Only hope for these millions of shares, and believe me, the largest of them are owned by the feckless managers, is to get bought out, and they know it. If you had stock and stock options with a basis of
2 or 3 cents, would you settle for a triple? I would.
that's what I am doing:: SELLLING!
I've been in this well over 10 years---enough pain already.
you guys believe in fairy taies.
So much has to line up for there to be a hugh verdict.
1) Law has to be on HDC's side.(maybe it isn't)
2) Intel has to have used this patent for a significant profit gain in it's products; and
not just some piss-ant application of it.(Intel might not have ever used it).
3) The amount of damages has to PROVEN to be pretty large;(where will that proof come from?)
4) To get treble damages, which would be required for this to have the result
everyone says is coming, the judge or jury has to see egregious behavior on the part of Intel. (I think
that is far-fetched---just ask Alan)
6) Intel has to agree to a settlement (if they do, they won't pay much) or agree to go to
trial (which they won't)
6) HDC has to NOT run out of money as Intel drags this out for as long as they can--or HDC will issue
another zillions share to the CEO for a $50,000 dollar loan---HA)
Really, do you suckers think all this will go HDC"s way??
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You are all dreamers===this company is GOING DOWN. All hands
Abandon ship. SOS. MAYDAY. TORA TORA, BONZAI, NUTS.
If HDVY is at 4 cents (assuming that is a "fair value", then there are two outcomes>
One is it goes to zero (loses the intel case); the other is that it wins the intel case;
If it does what is the right reward for buying into a stock that has a very good chance of being
worthless (the management certainly is worthless.) I would say a 10 to 15 bagger, at least.
that means 40 to 80 cents per share.
Since there are about 625 million shares o/s fully converted, the value would at 40 cents would be about 250 million and at 60 cents abut 375 million.
That means that HDC would have to win a judgment of about 500 to 600 million (it needs to pay the lawyers a BIG contingency fee). I DO NOT believe this is a likely outcome-----way to much money in a suit that probably would get settled,
I think the correct value for HDC today is about 1 cent ---SO I AM A SELLER.
ANY COMMENTS ON THIS?
used to play in a poker game and Marty played there.
He was a crappy poker player just like he is a crappy president.
However, he was loyal! Ha Ha Ha
Marty is an a-hole.
What does he know about anything.
This is a scam plain and simple
Tails I win, heads u lose.
That makes u a loser.
HA HA HA
This board is going to sh---t.
you posters must be bored out of you mind.
I suggest reading a good novel.
And please, stay of this board, orkey dorky
So what if Intel has a policy. It doesn't mean that
it isn't violated by employees. That happens all the time and
the violation is often directed by those above the employee doing
the violation (i.e willful). It has happened so often that all you have
to do is look at cases of this (i.e Enron, Xerox. etc, etc). These were
well-regarded companies at one time, just like your beloved Intel.
alan---U want Proof?
What do I look like?---the FBI.
Don't be crazy, the proof is there, and the HDC attorneys
just need to uncover it.
I have no interest in insulting you---you just insult everyone's intelligence.
once the company discovers it????
C'mom they instigate it. You are the most,
most naive person I know.
I guess you're getting a big pension from Intel.
Good Sport---
U are the smart one here.
Alan is the stupid, naive one.
I wish you all the best.
alan---NO, that person would be promoted.
You are ssoooooo stupid.
TCLD: You are 100% correct! Of course Intel can cheat. Virtually all companies do, even when they
spew out propaganda on how righteous they are.(Kinda like the politicians) C'mom everyone, wake up to reality!
alan, there are so many examples of Corporate directed fraud, cheating, etc. Not just one
individual but many in it together. I am 100% certain that it has happened at INTEL as some time.
It is virtually a certainty. You are just being Naive.
inadvertent! accidental! What are you doing? Defending a company that cheated.
C'mom.
I worked in Big companies all my life and I saw a tremendous amount of cheating, lying,
law-breaking---It ranged from cheating on incentive plans (still goes on) to cheating on
expense reports (still goes on) and yet you say inadvertent and accidental.
You need a bigger dose of reality. You are SOOOO Naive!!!
alan
you are obviously smart, but that doesn't mean you are not naive.
Corporations are goody-goodies? Intel not cheating? What, are you
kidding me.
Of course Intel cheats. The question is did they cheat in this case.
It would appear so as they tried to patent this for themselves.
loc wolf---
remember, hdvy has an excellent patient attorney---and the firm obviously took the case
on retainer.
Now, with that in mind, do you think the patent is not patentable? C'mon, of course it's
a valid patent. otherwise no suit would have been brought. The only real issue is are there damages and are they sufficient to get you a penny or two.
war survivors are we? Hell, we're almost dead; feel the pulse on HDVY and you'll see.
Almost no more money......big lawsuit against management..... patent suit against one
of the biggest, baddest companies in the world who can wait, wait, wait, while we cannot.
We are like the guy hanging from the cliff by one fingernail (probably his pinkie).
Wake up and realize it's all for naught. We are toast. I've owned tons of this stock for over a decade and all it's been is grief.
OK, so say u r Quirk and another big Canadian shareholder files virtually an identical lawsuit to yours in federal court. Why should you continue your lawsuit in state court---you wouldn't; you'd basically piggy back on the Canadian lawsuit. I think that is what happened---imho.
they are not dragging the stock down. The current management is and has been. The current management has diluted shareholders beyond belief---and that is what vennwest/quirk are trying to remedy. The problem is it may be too late to fix this sick stock.
This stock is going nowhere.
The vennwest suit will require HDC to raise more money. HA HA HA.
And Intel will never settle----They don't need to.
And the judge may rule in favor of HDC, but the shareholders will probably never see a penny of that.
Today's volume is indicative of interest in this stock: ZERO!!!
Look--the most likely scenario is that Intel will stall until HDC runsoutof money. Hoping HDC goes belly up.
Who will give HDC money?---Probably the guys who are suing it right now, imho.
a million suckers!!!
King---u want a quick settlement----but nothing regarding HDVY is quick as we long time shareholders know. I think this one will wind up being the same----a long drag out affair. After all, what has Intel got to lose by dragging everything out. They have already stated by asking for a 2 month delay of discovery.
I know many are reading into that---that Intel and HDC are using the time to negotiate a settlement. Ha Ha Ha. That ain't happening anytime soon into.
read the 10Q---there are more share o/x I calculate that the shares not used in the fully diluted calculation (warrants, options, etc) make the total share truly o/s if everything is converted into common of about 600 million shares. Authorized is @ 900 million shares---you can be sure that management will reward themselves (as they have shown they will do) once some sore of settlement is near.
As for the lawyers, they too will get rewarded with cash on settlement (they don't want shares).
Note that the 10Q says they have enough cash to go through the end of 2022. So lawyer fees are going to be contingent.
The guy owns the co---with over a 50% voting interest. How did he get that? GREED, plain and simple.
Now, going forward, do you think he will stop being greedy? Ha Ha Ha Ha!. LOL, LOL,LOL>
look at the warrants, options, etc. forget the authorized, it's misleading.
Maybe somebody at the printers got a whiff of the 10-Q and liked what was in it.
Could explain the trade a 8 cents this morning.
why praise mcgovern---he is a greedy pri--k.
notice how all the "day traders" disappeared and the stock has no volume now.
Really at this point there is very little basis to buy it unless you are a wishful thinker.
yes,, it should have been bankrupted by now---just fortuitous it's still around.
Problem is that it's gonna be raped by tGM and his cronies.
at least the disclaimer was true.
GM is a greedy sh---head. He has issued millions of shares to himself and his cronies.
We are left holding the bag. I wish Quirk had sued the bas---rd.
no where to go but up? How lon have u been in this stock. I have been in long long time and have heard that over and over and look: we still have a penny stock. Don't dream about a big payday here---not likely.
yeah, but who will do it---no employees to speak of.
Loc---Quirk had a ton of options but his underlying stock position, if my memory servers me right was about 25 million shares. You make it seem that he sold shares---Did he?