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about 5 minutes. lol
So i noticed this before and had always wondered if this was accurate.
If I had 500,000,000,000 (billion) shares before the first reverse split on 8-20-04, and went away for lets say 5 years... What would I have left.
on 8-20-04 my total goes to 500,000,000 (million) shares
on 10-26-05 my total goes to 1,000,000 (million) shares
on 3-15-07 my total is now 1,000 (thousand) shares
and on 1-22-2008 my final total would be 1 (uno) share..
Obviously I couldn't start with that number of shares, but wow, what a stinker. lol
Start a company with 5 billion shares authorized. You can sell sell sell, drive the price to .0001, R/S, increase Authorized, rinse repeat.
Whose website could this have come from? haha
Anyone enrolled in the Beta and seeing anything new?
I like the page
http://www.vizualmobile.com/betaterms.html
you can click "I decline", but not "I agree". What sense does it make to even have that link available.
Who is working hard? Minamoo? What are they working hard on? Writing phantom PRs and building news pumping websites?
For all the investors' sake, I hope you are right but I have my doubts.
Does anyone think there is a chance this might R/S? Especially with them increasing the A/S, assuming thats true of course.
*This is all my opinion of course and personal speculation*
Some folks just hate to see Marine or Fire getting any kind props...
We need to start a poll as to what the next great merger will be or when it will happen.
Personally, the minamoo geniuses know we will stick around and keep buying and selling, as long as news keeps happening.
Great catch. Thanks for pointing that out.
http://holeinonestocks.net/v7a/index.php?code=NWTT.PK
http://holeinonestocks.net/v7a/index.php?code=Useless
and we weren't too far off, were we...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=60716551
That's why I always chuckle when folks say they have done their DD on NWTT. Sure, you can take it all at face value and think this has some huge possibilities. This could be the biggest pinkie ever. Gold, Platinum, some sort of Green lighting company, stone quarries, it's amazing. Then if you look behind the curtain, you really see a man pushing buttons and firing up the smoke machine. No concrete evidence at all, completely unconfirmable, no names that can be verified.
If this really is a golden situation, then almost any idiot could successfully promote it by sticking an address in any of the released PR that points to where the quarry is, or who their current customers are, or how much they produce and sell. I just don't understand why that much hasn't been released. One can only assume the real reason is because it's not what they want us to believe.
But hey, get caught up in the hype. More important, play the momentum and make money. The problem is, this story is old and people aren't falling for it as much anymore.
Noone mentioning VTPI and its record earnings news?
VTPI might be ready to really take off after record earnings news.
zzzzzz 1 million shares traded huh? interesting indeed. Someone shaking the tree to see if any more dumbies fall out?
Personally, I think they sell us the shares at the higher prices, and then their buy back program is they will take them off our hands at the lower price. IMO of course
Couldn't agree more. Even though I myself ended up ahead after the last run, this one is nothing more than a magic show until some solid revenue is demonstrated.
Confusing, isn't it... You would have thought they could have come up with a better name. How many Canada Corps are there after all. lol How about Canada Mining Corp even.
Because of the that, until some revenue can be proven from any of their multiple so-called mergers and ventures (have we ever seen such from Bernal?) I'll continue to be suspicious. But I can also just about guarantee (IMO of course) this will have another run, revenues or not. Especially now that they have tossed the seed for the platinum mine. The real question is how low will it go before that run for an entry point to buy.
winning!
You are forgetting how much revenue the merger PR back in (was it?) August 2010 generated for them. Pump Dump Dilute. lol
GLTA none the less
In reference to:
Sure there's snow. I keep forgetting that this is still March! Just gave up the frosty North for the warmth of South Carolina. lol
I'm still cheering for you guys though. Never like to see people get taken to the cleaners and there is some great potential here if it's all legit.
Same boat here acid. Been out since .0006, but might be a buying opportunity again soon. Of course it is a little disappointing to see them start tossing platinum out there already as the next great value add for NWTT, and there wasn't much of a move. Diminishes the chance a little of another spike IMO. Perhaps another video would help.
So will a diamond mine be next? I have found myself thinking the same thing. All this Press, yet still so low on price. That has to say something. Don't we have any Canadian folks near where they are "supposed" to be mining that can do a drive-by? lol
Sell? I sold 25 million at .0001 through Thinkorswim (TD Ameritrade)
Understandable. I hope your patience pays off big! Glta, maybe I'll be back in a few weeks.
That doesn't help the situation. To me, that means we shouldn't expect a change anytime soon. I would guess a few of you who are under the lock are doing exactly what he says needs to be done. I'm guessing this is the time to exit. Especially with Cassandras info.
Good luck Myyymannn. I'm so close to selling too. This ones going to hurt.
Is anyone going to email Mr L to see what he says about this?
Ouch, so your situation is even worse than mine. At least I have the option to sell at a loss. You are under the freeze now, yes? The part I am kicking myself the most about is that I broke a cardinal rule and invested all of my slush into this one cause I got caught up in that volume bs. Greed reared it's ugly head cause I thought the uptick was inevitable. So I'm in 3 others that I just can't sell yet and this one now where there's really not a chance to sell. We can keep each company on the SS CLDR i suppose as we steer straight toward the R/S iceberg! Lol
Have either of you been paying attention to what happened the last 2 weeks? Think a little before you talk. Yes, a lot of people on here do indeed blame the MMs for a stocks failure, and many more troll around and do nothing but spout negative comments, but sometimes believe itnor not, things can be happening.
ETMM and HDSN sat at the top of the queue on the ASK with endless shares at .0002. It was endless because it took 100M + in volume to knock ETMM off on the day when I fell victim and bought in with 25M. Every other day there was volume, whoever started the day at the top of the queue, typically ended it there, despite moderate volume. The effect this caused was two-fold. The stock was stuck at 2, never seeming to go anywhere, and those who fel for the high volume and bought at 2, have not a chance in hell to sniff getting a sell at 2 because it isn't going anywhere and those f'ers never get out of the way.
To me that is a wall. The only options are to sit and pray, or sell at .0001. Not to forget of course that they have the same scheme going there too. It's really ingenious if you think about it. Sell a butt load at .0002 and wait for people to tire of holding and then buy them back at .0001! To top it off, I think there was shuffling of shares back and forth to build the volume and entice buyers in. When there was no more buying outside of there shuffling, they stopped shuffling and then begin to wait.
So what would you call this horse crap? I don't mean to be confrontational, just ticked at the situation i've gotten in and like to hear myself talk.
That was the only thing that irritated me about his response. I don't have any issues buying or selling, so the chill doesn't affect my broker and me calling doesn't do anything except point it out that maybe they should also follow the chill. Lol
I put the lack of volume squarely on the shoulders of those damn MMs putting up the walls. Investors wised up and are staying away. I wish I truly knew how much new blood had bought in during those high volume days. I'm worried that most of it was shuffling of shares by the same MMs and now we are stuck. And whats worse is they have more patience. The only way we win is if this stock knocks it out of park with their upcoming products.
To me, knowing that they have 5 full time and 6 contracted developers helps to comfort me some. Sure, he could have told me whatever he wanted, but at some point you have to put a little trust in people, and he seems like a reasonable individual from his responses.
Here is my follow-up to him and his responses in bold.
Good morning David,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I won't waste your time further asking questions about who else you have communicated with on the forum. It's not important. I only have a few more questions(at least at this time) about the share count, and other business aspects.
Can you talk about what the actual A/S, O/S, etc?
A/S is 3.5bn
O/s is 2.4bn
Do you have an estimate as to how many employees you have working on development, and for the company?
For the company is 5 full time with a team of 6 contracted developers.
How is the harvester product working out?
Pretty interesting, as per our PR we have a good pipeline of opportunities.
Thanks for all your hard work! Feel free to let me know if there is anything you need from the investor side, or if there is any way i can help.
We NEED EVERY shareholder to contact their broker and ask them to request the chill order be removed it DTCC.
-Mike
Sent from my iPad
Here is the response i received from Mr Lovatt. Take it at face value, but he sounds like he is working hard on the chill and future business.
Hello Michael,
Thank you for your email. Apologies about the delay, these are busy days.
I can’t confirm exactly which emails I send to people as I don’t know which emails you are referring to, but I am always happy to answer questions which cover items already in the public domain through Press Releases and that is what I have been doing with various individuals from the boards.
I need to clarify what product releases we have listed in an upcoming PR as I have lots of PR scheduled, but I have been holding off until the DTCC thing is cleared on legal advice. I am trying to focus on getting the Chill order lifted.
In terms of Market Markers, whilst it is illegal for a Market Marker to charge to sponsor a company through 15 211, it is not illegal for them to charge a management fee to work with them. This often is more than $15,000. Whilst I appreciate that there are those who see this as money well spent, I am not budgeting that until we have completed all of our technical development.
I am travelling for the next two weeks to meet various clients and development teams working on our projects, so I hope that you will appreciate the time lag in any additional response you require.
All the very best,
David Lovatt | CEO | Cloud Centric Systems, Inc.
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From: Michael [mailto:xxx@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 February 2011 12:06
To: David Lovatt - Cloud Centric Systems
Subject: Cloud Centric Systems, Inc. (Investor Interest )
Your message
Greetings Mr Lovatt, This is more of just a sanity check for me. I am a member of a forum that I'm guessing you may be familiar with called Investorshub. Over the past few weeks, I've been seeing a few members who are posting emails from you. The first thing I wanted to do is verify that you really are responding to these folks.
I also wanted to ask if you could in some way post a PR that is focused on your upcoming product release. What would be great for your shateholders to see is perhaps a video or pictures showing the product working in beta for those of us that aren't doing the beta. I think this would help boost morale some, and get people's minds off the DTC Chill. As far as the chill, I have had no problem buying at the ASK or selling on the BID. The problem I have had is the opposite, and I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out to you. For your Average Joe investor, we seem to be stuck in the middle of a scheme in my honest opinion. Every morning, a few Market Makers slide into the Level 2 queue before everyone else. When they get there, they are dumping enormous numbers of shares on the ASK, and buying up just as many on the BID. What this does is put up walls that never give your Average Joe the chance to sell, unless he is willing to absorb a 50% loss. Same goes for buying. There is no way for us to buy at the BID because the Market Makers are in the way. So the chill isnt the only thing deterring investors right now, and perhaps they are linked. I'm only tell you this so you are aware, and I realize you might have a few other things on your mind right now!
So I was thinking the PR might help. Another thing could be to focus on getting your paperwork in place with FINRA in order to get this "sponsoring market maker" i keep hearing about, and also to get your information current about share counts, etc. Anything would help us get more confidence, and I think these are things I keep hearing complaints about. Thank you for the interruption in your day, and I still have confidence in you and your company, and look forward to a larger investment soon.
-Mike
If you want the stock, pay the ask. You'll be waiting a long time to get any 1s with the MMs stranglehold on... GLTU tho, I hope you get some. Personally IMHO, all that thinking does is help to further squelch any upward movement.
You don't want to miss the ride when this ship gets back on course!
Nevermind, guess it went after all.
I have a sell order sitting here for a few minutes now 911 at .0001 so I guess Thinkorswim/TDA might be locking?
I think CWL meant that a portion was bought at .0001 and the rest at .0002 and then sold all at .0001. Myself, I'm just not ready yet to lose a few thousand. *cringe*
Just curious, were you able to fill at .0002 or did you swallow hard and submit at .0001?
Thank you for sharing. That helps us have a bigger picture, and calms the nerves a bit. Like I keep saying, I can't wait to get the MMs out of the way now.