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I haven't checked this in a while, but something seems to be going on. The bashers are posting feverishly although there are no pumpers, no volume, and no news?? Things that make you go mmmmm....
Successful investors always use the phrase, "Past results are a guarantee of future results" LOL
Or is it "Past results provide no guarantee on future results."
GLTA
Now I have seen it all. Mods, could you please block this guy. He is now comparing a development stage company to a conspiracy theory he found on the internet as proof that scams can exist in America....
This stock is NOT DTC inelgible per the link I sent you and it is listed below. Zecco has decided on their own to not allow you to trade....
http://www.mastertrader.com/TradingResources/dtcc.aspx
I have never heard of a trader like you. You have asked this same question at least 10 times and heard the same answer from multiple sources. Our volume will be fine when news breaks.
Good luck with Zecco....
BTW, here is a tool that allows you to see if a stock is DTC eligible. Go ahead, put in VGPR but I'll save you the time. It should be eligible for trading.
http://www.mastertrader.com/TradingResources/dtcc.aspx
Like I said, ACAT your shares out of the crap brokerage asap...
ms123, Zecco (Pension Securities) is one of the hardest companies to deal with for penny stocks. They only trade DTC eligible stocks online, otherwise you must go through a paper (costly) transaction.
The worst part is that they arbitrarily change this list quite frequently and according to the attached link has something to do with the volume of a given stock.
https://www.zecco.com/community/newbie-questions.aspx?postid=31331&type=discussion
Bottom line, you should ACAT your share for no cost over to a more reputable company. VGPR has nothing to do with your inability to trade their shares. Hope that helps.
There is a BIG difference I would like to point out to you lildaniel;
Some of us will disappear forever, others for a while, but there is a good chance that many of us will profit from this stock once again before departing. I hope you're able to do the same this time. Good luck!
Well said....
ms123: Here is a list of 5 good brokers for you to switch accounts via the acat system and a link to a "how to switch" tutorial. You'll pay less and have fewer issues. Hope this helps! I use Scottrade and have never had any problems.
http://www.stocktradingtogo.com/online-stock-brokers/
http://www.ehow.com/how_5754446_transfer-stock-between-brokerage-accounts.html
This is NOT a VGPR issue, so please stop posting about issues with your broker on this board.
Thanks!
GLTA
Did you watch the video I sent out? The oxygen is NOT removed from the Timber. It is removed from the chamber where the torrifying occurs. Apparently it creates a combustibility that allows for the high temperatures when the ground up (dried) timber waste passes through the chamber. Hope this helps!
So what kind of fees are you paying MS? IMO, your planned exit point is all that matters. If you're thinking about flipping this on a .0001 move then the fees don't work for you, but then why are you even messing with this???
GLTA
So let me get this straight, I post legitimate articles, businesses, and references disputing what you say and pointing out that timber waster does in fact have much lower water content.
Your response, "My figure was from memory" and that you're sure waste maintains the moisture at the same level as green timber. What on earth are you basing this on??? Please share your experience or research.
I understand you're trying to do whatever you can to poke holes in this company's objective, but at least be somewhat truthful!
I also posted a video which describes the manner in which removing oxygen and adding other gases creates a very high level of combustion necessary to torrefy the wood.
Timber waste is most certainly dead (hence waste) and therefore has begun the drying out process. Many components of raw timber waste possess water content at less than 20%. According to this article, less than 50% is the key number.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/t0269e/t0269e08.htm#6.2 sources of available wood residues
As for the heat source, apparently when you remove the oxygen and add other gas's there is 3 times the combustability in these torrefaction units. Watch the video and enjoy.
http://renewablefueltech.wordpress.com/technical-2/
Are you really concerned with these questions or are you just brainstorming ideas to promote your agenda?!?! You're certainly not doing much research....
FB, you have become quite the energy expert after initially investing in a Poker site.... Here are a couple of FACTS for you after some 10 minutes of research on the web to your theory.
1. Water actually makes up about 40% - 45% of wood when first cut.
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Water_and_Wood.html
2. In 9 short months the water content is down around 20% or less.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_does_it_take_for_fire_wood_to_dry
Now I am no expert, but it appears (again) that YOU are not either!
Get out of this board.....
Your article makes perfect sense NEO. FB has been claiming that the technology is not feasible and your article gives significant credibility that their is a growing market for this technology and that it is feasible. Now he is asking why you're sharing the article because it has nothing to do with Vega???
His personal vendetta allows him to think of one thing, What can I do to bash anything that is said about VGPR on this board?
All I know is that it is really fun to watch a man get so angry that his emotions cause for irrational statements. I'll keep coming back just to see them and comment point out their stupidity.
Sorry you got burned FB, but please move on and save a small portion of your dignity....also hit that sell button if you find yourself in a position to pocket $10K again.
Thanks for sharing Neo! Great stuff indeed, we'll hopefully have a plant in GA soon!!
I'm sure you're going to be under siege from the known bashers on this board, but I appreciate the DD.
A Penny?!? Who needs a penny to make money. From where we are today, a 1/4 of a penny would be more than enough to make my portfolio fly....
If you're waiting for a penny, please move on to another stock.
I don't know what you mean by;
My only concern is selling shares for more than I purchased. My firm belief is that my personal entry point is one I feel puts me in a position to deliver personal profits.
There is significant momentum building with this stock and we'll hopefully hear news of a physical address soon.
I agree with you that I thought we might get a little positive movement, but the market is very fickle... we shall see.
At least you're finally admitting your own stupidity....
Here is an idea, learn from your past mistakes and reinvest in this or any other stock you feel passionate about. NEXT TIME HIT THE SELL BUTTON.
Either way, build a bridge and get over it buddy!
Thanks Mainframe! I feel strongly that the Cordele plant is in fact a real project too. What remains to be seen is if this project ever gets off the ground. Past results do not guarantee the future and I certainly hope our future looks much different than the past.
Here is to hope!
GLTA
Molen is certainly NOT a good CEO and VGPR continues to be dormant and the ONLY reason I enjoy checking in with this board is to hopefully flip some more profits and to watch the comedy unfold....
We have hit a new level with today's post from....MolenIsFake aka Aneela Anjum aka (according to this release) Mr. Manoj. This is the individual who actually invested his life savings in a penny stock through the open market and is now desperately screaming to any and all authorities of apparent fraud.
The SEC must be having a laugh around the office with the page you made. The recorded interview is priceless and I think you missed your calling as an anchor on 60 minutes. Watch out Andy Rooney...
Nice article about Bio-power, including a mention of a little start-up in Georgia....
http://biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2011/06/15/the-integrated-biorefinery-the-rise-of-biopower/
lildaniel: I don't know anything about Molen and have never thought he has seen the light as you say. All this stuff doesn't matter to me...
All I want to do is sell shares of VGPR for more than I purchased. That is frankly the only thing I am interested in. This thing could be taken down tomorrow and I wouldn't care because it's all "play" money.
Or, what if I made another $10,000 in profits like in 2009??? I guess I'll just be ready with that sell button...make sure you're ready too.
In the meantime, if I ever stumble across my own DD that can be used to take down a scam, I'll share with the board. I do wish you the best and hope you're other investments are bringing you more success.
Read my whole post lildaniel, I said this is the riskiest investment available. Not GO VGPR! Or any other pumper....
As for evidence, we do FINALLY have some credible 3rd parties confirming the start of a plan. The project could fizzle out tomorrow, but at least people other than Vega are even mentioning.
Tell me how your SEC complaints are going. Should I assume those are wrong because they haven't happened yet?!? They could also happen tomorrow and we'll be delisted.
I am not a pumper or a basher. Just trying to make some effinnn $$$$. What are you trying to do??
drokka: I'll share a little history about our friend FB.
1. He didn't learn (until I educated him) that pink sheet securities do NOT have to report their financials. As a result he was claiming fraud without knowing the first thing about SEC laws.
2. He has stated recently that he COULD have made $10K on VGPR, but didn't and now is out on a personal vendetta against the company and its CEO. I wonder if he would still be mad if he had of hit the sell button?!?!
These 2 FACTS as he likes to call them are undeniable and provable through this board. I tell you (and all) this because his posts are based on an obvious mission in which no common sense can be made because he is BLINDED BY ANGER!
FB: I do truly enjoy watching your passion as you explode over and over again. You are correct, that this company has been poorly managed and has ZERO track record of success. It is as risky investment as exists in the market for a reason and you will probably loose money. Do you also complain at the casino when you bet on red and it comes up black?!?!? GET A CLUE DUDE!
GLTA
What is the 2015 date reference?
The recent attention by non interested 3rd parties is what has me willing to take a shot with owning VGPR again.
I personally have made a good return on VGPR in the past (about 500%) and plan to again. It's all about timing my friend.
The flip side is that I have lost a fair amount after the R/S.
GLTA
See my below post for additional confirmation of Vega...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63517914
What would you do if a plan did finally come to fruition? Would efforts be made on your behalf to sabotage an honest business?
You have admitted to your stance on revenge, however I will remind you that this revenge can ultimately turn YOU into the bad guy you claim to be after.
Fantastic post Swarmmaster! Your safe harbor statement is DEAD ON! People on both sides (bashers and pumpers) are acting as if they're SURE it is a SCAM or the REAL thing.
This "company" may never get off the ground. As of right now, there has been some positive news with reference to real companies. It is possible that they will execute and build shareholder value.
Investors should always use extreme caution with Pink Sheet Securities!
How are the SEC complaints going? Have not heard a peep about that in a long time? Just curious...
Nice post MOD!!!
However, you have YET to STICKY any of the news recently posted. Great job posting all info available for Investors to do their own DD...
I'm not bashing you, just respectfully asking you to be unbiased please?!?
Thank you in advance on behalf of the IHUB VGPR board ;)
Don't waste your breath....blinded by anger applies to this "bloke" too!
FYI: I spoke with Jonathan Lafevers, Owner of Cordele Intermodal Systems (CIS) today to confirm the report of Vega as a contracted entity for CIS
He did confirm that they have signed on with CIS! Jonathan has a nice website with updates monthly:
http://www.cordeleintermodal.com
This company is finally making the headway promised a long time ago and we finally have one MAJOR difference! Other known and recognized entities are confirming the existence / plan of VGPR.
GLTA
lil-angry-daniel: Curtis is the Exec Director of the Georgia Port Authority. I know you're angry about your history with Molen and "blinded by anger" can easily occur (has for many on this board).
Even through this, you must admit that this "news" is different than anything we have seen in the past, because it came from a source other than Vega. That was my point. Does it mean VGPR is going to become a global leader in Biofuels as some pumpers would promote?!? Absolutely NOT! But, we seem to be headed in a good direction when public authorities make reference to Vega as a viable entity.
FB, I'll save you the typing. I know they have not listed engineers, etc, This is a small step and many hurdles still lie ahead, but at last a STEP has occurred!
As I have said before:
1. Invest "play / gambling" money in Pink Sheets = Money you can afford to loose entirely.
2. Pull your earnings off the table when possible to avoid becoming a true bag holder
3. Repeat and have fun.....
GLTA!
Great find brokerman! Did my eyes finally see an entity other than Vega Biofuels mention Vega Biofuels?!?
For all those naysayers out there, this is the quote I wanted to reiterate for your review. It comes from the Director of the Georgia Port Authority (GPA), Curtis Foltz