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I would think that is exactly what would happen to AMDA if they release their IP.
You cant successfully fight IP theft in China. If I'm not wrong, both Mercedez and BMW fought and lost. In China copying, someone's idea is actually considered flattery.
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Another Ville game http://blog.zynga.com/
I was honestly hoping they would start releasing mid core games. We'll see how this one does.
That's massed up!!!!! I really HOPE they don't do that.
What would happen to the shares that I currently hold, if Zynga decides to go private?
I hope so buddy, i sure hope so.
Why doesn't zynga come out and say that they are just cleaning the house? Or are things really that bad that all these execus are leaving? But in my mind things cant be that bad because they hired 2 great people and acquired a nice company. Yet, almost every news article I read it seems zynga is doomed. I'm not a business major, but to me it would seem logical to stop the bad news and grwo confidence with investors. This does not make any sense at all....
I'm going to take a guess here and say that this statement which came directly from A Bit Lucky's website is one reason Zynga bought them.
A Bit Lucky is a new generation of game developers whose passion is to make high-quality multiplayer games. A Bit Lucky’s first games, Lucky Space and Lucky Train, are among some of the highest-rated games on Facebook. Our new series of games will be hardcore transplatform multiplayer real-time games, playable on all platforms (PC/Mac, tablets, phones…)
http://www.abitlucky.com/about/
The so called "social games" are losing there track slowly and mid core and hardcore gaming is here to stay. This new team zynga acquired, will probably lead zynga into the next stage. I personnel don't think this acquisition was intended to raise to price, but more for a strategical advancement.
Zynga Hires Mortal Kombat Co-Creator John Tobias
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/09/17/zynga-hires-mortal-kombat-co-creator-john-tobias.aspx
I'm guessing zynga is going for the mid-core gaming since they hired him, which they should. I'm not too worried about their mobile platform being late, because nothing is ever on time in the gaming industry. Just look at Blizzard they will take their time to make everything just perfect. Now I just hope Zynga is doing the same thing and not just goofing off.
Plus yesterday they also acquired A Bit Lucky things can't be going that bad for them.
Poker thanks for your last reply.
Zynga hits EA in court over employee hiring deal
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/zynga-hits-ea-court-over-003720249.html
I need some suggestions and advise and please be honest with your opinions.
I am thinking about investing into Zynga again; to double my share count. I am currently down a lot, not like some of you, but for a college student being down 9k is A LOT. So, I'm thinking about buying again, in order if Zynga goes up ill recover my money faster. I'm thinking about buying another 1k shares. How should I approach this?
hmm... okay, interesting. Maybe Pincus will down size the company as Poker had suggested on the forms. If I had to take a guess, than I would say poker will be the largest division and the other 3 will focus on social gaming, mobile and maybe PC/Console games.
Zynga Hires a New Executive to Lead Online Gambling Ambitions
Zynga has added some firepower to its online gambling ambitions.
AllThingsD has learned that Maytal Ginzburg is joining Zynga as the company’s chief operating officer in charge of new markets, according to her LinkedIn profile.
As recently as July, she was the SVP of regulated markets at 888holdings, where she was responsible for acquiring customers and other operations.
888 Holdings operates an online portal at 888.com, offering real-money games, such as poker, bingo and sports betting, in markets were online gambling is regulated. More recently, it started to investigate the opportunity in social and mobile gaming through the 2010 acquisition of Mytopia from Real Dice.
Ginzburg has not yet started to work at Zynga, but is expected to begin soon. Social Casino Intelligence was first to point out that she was hired by the company. A spokesperson declined to comment.
The hire is important for the Facebook games maker because it shows that while a number of executives have decided to leave, it can still recruit talent at a very high level.
During the company’s last earnings call, CEO Mark Pincus confirmed that its first real-money products were in development and that it believes it has a huge opportunity to leverage its strong casino presence on Facebook, including with Zynga Poker, and newer properties, like Bingo and Slots. Pincus said expect to launch our first real money gaming products in international markets in the first half of 2013, subject to licensing approvals.
At this time, it’s unclear what Ginzburg will be doing at Zynga, but from an interview she conducted with a U.K. publication, you can tell Zynga was very much on her radar.
She told Inside Poker Business that she believe it was important to integrate social features into 888's existing products in order to make interactions less serious and more welcoming to casual players. One product that helped a lot was providing PokerCams, which allowed users to see who they were playing online.
“We want to attract players who will play for casual entertainment, and we therefore needed to deliver social platforms that are easy to use yet provide all the interactive features users expect,” she told Inside Poker Business, adding later that “the biggest risk we were running was that casual players avoided the product because of a lack of interaction, which is why so many have gone to Zynga.”
http://allthingsd.com/20120830/zynga-hires-a-new-executive-to-lead-online-gambling-ambitions/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker
Anyone else finding it strange that Zynga is losing this many exces?
I know that Pincus wants to reform the company, but losing this many in such a short period of time seems negative. I honestly hope that everything is alight internally with Zynga.
Your right about that, as a CEO of a gaming company he should. Plus, in my oppinion sandbox gaming is the future of gaming industry. Especially in mmos, but I'm sure you can apply that game style to any game genre.
What do you guys think of the new statment made by Pincus that he will never sell?
Does Pincus know the difference between sandbox and theme park games?
Ok, I guess now we just have to wait and see which direction Zynga takes. But, I do like that they are publishing other developers games because that bring in some revenue as well.
October isn't that far away, we shall see how they do.
True, but would it be possible for Zynga to develop a platform on their own for gambling, as well as it's own servers? Plus allow people to gamble through the facebook platform. So this way, FB gets their share of profit and zynga makes money on both fronts. Unless they are obligated to only allow things to go through the FB platform?
FB competing against Zynga would be extremely bad, now weather both companies would suffer or only one... I don't really know the answer to that.
What Zynga needs to do it develop an original game that would somewhat remove the tag "copycat". If zynga does that and focuses on publishing others developers game like it started, I can see Zynga making it big, but it will take sometime.
During a conference call following Zynga's quarterly earnings report last month, Chief Executive Mark Pincus told analysts the firm expects to "launch our first real-money gaming products in international markets in the first half of 2013." The CEO added that while the U.S. is an attractive potential market for an early foray into real-money gambling, "it's not an open, regulated environment today."
Insert from: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444508504577591352837759224.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs
If this article is true, we wont see RMG until next year. Now I don't think that is to late for Zynga to get into it just because FB jumped the gun doesn't mean that they will be any more successful than Zynga, in gambling.
Zynga was given way too much bad publicity. How often do they talk about GLUU?? They don't. Analysts and Journalists have hurt Zynga more than Zynga has done to it self. Yes, last quarter was bad, but they are far from being over. Every single article you ready is proclaiming the doom of Zynga and FB. There are millions of investors out there that read those articles religiously and it scares them away from Zynga and FB. Plus you have those that just hate Social Media and Gaming Websites, they are not helping either.
Zynga is far from over, yes they hit a road bump, but are they going to disappear? Not any times soon.
JMHO
I'm sure they are focusing on it the only reason I see why they are taking so long to release it on the market, is that they want to get it right. Pincuss is probably trying to dot every i and cross every t before they release it on to the market. Now weather that's going to hurt them even more is another thing.
Fb and Zynga should combine and become one company. That way they would have an ultimate force in the gaming industry and well as social media. No one would be able to touch them. But we all can assume that will probably never happen.
I can agree with you their MAU has been going up and if they release FarmVille 2 next month, I can see their third quarter being positive and then all the so called experts and journalists will eat their words.
Zynga is a publisher for that game. Here is a link.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/27/the-dark-meadow-developers-next-game-is-zyngas-horn/
It seems FB is really pissed at Zynga and probably due to the fact that zynga wants to separate themselfs from FB. Now thwy are trying to cut into Zyngas market
Excellent new game, more profit, price goes up. Now if everything goes well with online gambling Zynga will be in the clear and everyone will all of sudden like Zynga.
Here is an interesting article describing why the lawsuit against Zynga is bad and he author does think EA will win the case.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericgoldman/2012/08/06/eas-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-against-zynga-is-dangerous-for-ea/?partner=yahoofeed
It seems EA is guilty as much as Zynga. Well.. depending upon what you really what to believe. It seems to me its all perspective.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-08-03-ea-sues-zynga-over-sims-social-copyright-infringement
Exert from the article
"We are committed to creating the most fun, innovative, social and engaging games in every major genre that our players enjoy. The Ville is the newest game in our 'ville' franchise - it builds on every major innovation from our existing invest-and-express games dating back to YoVille and continuing through CityVille and CastleVille, and introduces a number of new social features and game mechanics not seen in social games today," said Zynga's statement.
"It's unfortunate that EA thought that this was an appropriate response to our game, and clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding of basic copyright principles. It's also ironic that EA brings this suit shortly after launching SimCity Social which bears an uncanny resemblance to Zynga's CityVille game. Nonetheless, we plan to defend our rights to the fullest extent possible and intend to win with players."
Thanks Poker.
Well...,now I only have a drop of confidence left in me about this company and the stock.
I just counted all the lawsuits against Zynga and it's 22 of them.
Thanks for the reply Poker.
One more question. As you have mentioned, they lost a lawsuit and settled for 9 million, but were able to keep the game up. Can we expect the same here or will the decision be left up to the judge?
Hey Poker, since your in the gaming industry, what is your take on the lawsuit of EA vs Zynga? Do you think it's just an attempt to shut Zynga down because they are competition for them in the mobile as well as social gaming? And Zynga is being accused because the game is just similar to the Sims. I know Zynga hasn't really introduced any original games, but i'm just curious to what you make of this.
Interesting article here if anyone missed it
http://seekingalpha.com/article/759511-facebook-torpedoes-zynga-takeover-possible?source=yahoo
Do you guys believe that Zynga will ever go back above original IPO price?
I'm talking about a time from of 6 to 10 months.
I'm in for the long run. It was a very emotional day today for Zynga shareholders. I'f i'm not mistaken, tomorrow is the voting on gambling, and if that passes, I can't see why Zynga wont be back at $5 or higher.
If I had the funds, (damn school) I would be buying now too.
Well, there is always next quarter or next year for Zynga to improve.
Not sure if you guys knew, but Zynga acquired a new company Wild Needle.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404382,00.asp
http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/14/zynga-picks-up-mobile-gaming-startup-wild-needle-in-a-talent-deal/
There are more links out there, just google them.
Thank you Poker. You have been very insightful.
Do you think that Zynga will recover like LinkedIn did after a year or so? And are any of your worried about zynga continuing to post losses?
My personal opinion, what social gaming is doing right now, selling virtual items, is what mmos'(massively multiplayer online ) Ex: World of Warcarft, companies have done in the past for so many years. Blizzard for example will implement a real cash action house in Diablo 3 were players can sell their in-game items for real money. EA doing dlc (downloadable content) for their games. There all doing it, the business idea is here to stay. But the biggest fear I have is how will zynga separate themselves from the others and continue to make original games?
I understand. Being a gamer, I am fully aware how closely major gaming companies hold their doors closed on new projects. I was just wondering.
Thank you for your reply.
Hey Poker,
In one of your earlier posts you have mentioned that you still have friends working for Zynga. I was just wondering, have any of them said anything to you about Zynga developing any new games (major games)? I'm not asking for any major details, just if there is anything in progress and if you have a code name for the game?
Thank you.
It wasnt profitable for "OWVI" it was never said that it wasnt profitable for Steve. Now Steve can get all the mushi he wants.