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still lmfao! imo of course blah blah blah. PS they get a penny a post 2 bits if they have a college degree!
It's always been the little things that makes me smile ;)
i believe there has been some cheap shares bought over last few days weeks, called traders taking profits< I did also and will buy back my trading blocks soon i hope! lets stay grounded here
not meant for you mike
FYI I am staying small on the buys here because I believe they will need one or two (minimum) scare shakeouts before this ia a "WRAP" . I dont know when they are coming but I feel its in next few weeks. I will be waiting for that for one more major purchase then my cost avg will be exciting. just my feeling from experience for what its worth. imo
and BINGO was his name,,,O!
I thought is was concluded that for what ever reason, they need the common stk wiped out? I have a few reasons why they need that but just spec on my part. imo
Im with you oil, on my way to voodoos position. bought a block the other day watched it go off. THEY MADE MY BUY OF 100K LOOK LIKE IT WAS GETTING FILLED AS A SELL BELOW THE BID. WAT A JOKE. once in a while i will break up my buys n sells to see where they put them and who (MM) takes them in or sells to me. LOL, the trading here is all a facade, behind the curtain is where the the answers are and I am adding when price si right, looking forward to oct. jmo glty
ilenes, your theory is right on point. I could not have explained the situation better. My feeling is we are in 7th inning, SS not needed to come in yet but he will! If we knew the strategy it would be a very bad. Lots of guesses some very good, we might never know just be able to reverse engineer according to the outcome which I believe will be positive.jmo
Wrong game wrong board
Let's see how SS n gang do in the next few battles and how the judge rules that bench of hers. It may not be needed but I think it should go on the top of the To Do List if this starts to go south on us, until then I'm of the opinion that SS had this game won before we knew he was our lawyer. I just want one side to Call already, dying to see all the cards everyone has been holding this whole time. Catch ya in am. Amo
Since DanBB paid for the audio I think Ill pick up the tab for the clowns.
Ok, you have seen what I am talking about then. Sorry u missed the upside in the last one. This will put th em to shame if there really is a bill or so illegally short. I would think since the latest current events they are trying to find a way to hedge against that risk probably with some one who owns a lot of shares TPG comes to mind n they are as greedy n shady as the next guy. IMHO
Voodoo, simple. They either have to cover or not. If it never reopens then they have to cover stock in kind, the new reorg co stk would be the play. Otherwise the open short will cream them if they are not hedged! Most important part is if they found a way to write a derivative for all the NSS or they really bet the whole house on a cancelations of equity. That is the biggest question to me, if so valuation won't matter for a week or two. Jmo
.? Hav ya ever seen a true life crushing short sqeeze, not many have but if is rip ur face of vicious!
Edit my buddy tells me I'm not 100 percent on that, depends on stucture of new stock, might get cash call n crush entities not able to delive the stock to close the position. I'm sure those who are naked hav a big dilemma if the stk halts n never reopens as wamuq. I do think it will reopen n if roomers true watch out
The group influencing th pps is not at big risk. Ex. They will hold 100 mm in house shares accum. over last few years and will be short 50mm shares. Those numbers will change from day to day but with a bias to current events and expensive intel. They will not get cought in a "Duke & Duke" or. NUKE trade. They will either make a little money, make a lot of money or end up flat for the month but they won't lose money, they are hedged well n prob. have access to other shares for a strike price already agreed upon if they need more like buying a Call or a Put. Hope this helps. kinda comes back to rinse and repeat for the lay. Jmo
thanks fsshon, that makes a little more sense to me. funny i actually know some of these guys. lol
hi yanik, question? i kep hearing in my head JMWs sentence near the conf of por6 that goes something like this. "yes rosen, i do believe you will have tp produce a list of assets and as I see it now EC will have something to say about POR6 and many jumping on their coattails" could this be what she was talking about having full knowledge of what sussman gave to her to get her to reverse her Examiner decisiion.???? I have very little legal backround but this sentence she said keeps ringing in the back of my head. Could the latest turn of events be part of what she ws expecting all this time which gave her the ability (evidence) of IT and Thomba to let SS rip these guys and force an end to this? sorry if off topic and totally misguided thinking. I just have been waiting for her statement to mean something and it seems to fit hear pretty well. JMO
Not directed at anyone specifically , does anyone hear tones of fixed agendas and undertones of " this is why people don't understand this or that and why I did this or that" this from the same people who admittedly preach " but nobody knows"!
Many here understand perfectly actually some pros here too. Some of us reach for beta. Point being, I keep hearing agendas from people who are smart n knowledgable but who actually know nothing, this case is unprecedented and will prove to shock many either way it goes down, they play for keeps and its a dirty fn game,,,,,, a game even played on this board! follow your own course, take all the credit and/or all the blame,,,,,,,,,,,,of course jmo blah blah
Fwiw
Edit,,, meant for the U board sorry, c I can't even put my 2 cents in wout fm it up. Lol
Not directed at anyone specifically , does anyone hear tones of fixed agendas and undertones of " this is why people don't understand this or that and why I did this or that" this from the same people who admittedly preach " but nobody knows"!
Many here understand perfectly actually some pros here too. Some of us reach for beta. Point being, I keep hearing agendas from people who are smart n knowledgable but who actually know nothing, this case is unprecedented and will prove to shock many either way it goes down, they play for keeps and its a dirty fn game,,,,,, follow your own course, take all the credit and/or all the blame,,,,,,,,,,,,of course jmo blah blah
Fwiw
Edit,,, meant for the U board sorry, c I can't even put my 2 cents in wout fm it up. Lol
MMs were testing it today. My friend called me to see if I heard any news coming or something was happening 2 maro. He said they were testing to see how much vol needed to move it big. Then we got this 2 nite ,pretty funny. Amo
Rosen needed to giv more of the reorganized co. To the hedges outa court so he leaked this hoping hedgies will pick up another 200mm shares and hav more control when they exit bk. Hope MW knows the HFs game of gaining more control behind their backs but I'm sure he does. jmo
I can't fiind the post but myself and others like will48 n I think fisshn laid this play out for ya. They will bring it up then a news release, " snag on settlement talks commons get nothing"!!!!!!!!! Lmfao thiis is exactly wat expected and I wonder if they can get it under .09 .08..... Please I hope they can because I will playalong buti will betheone bidding for xxxxxx shares at .07 fact! The rest is jmo
Ps. Wat a joke, they r so transparent
Am I the only one who got the expected "por6 going threw, wamu shareholder talks fall threw" news release I expected this because they were testing the vol needs to rush it today for 2maro. IMO
I meant they were testing how muchvol they need 2day to crush it2maro
yes william our thinking exactly. confuse everyone cause when you have no leg to stand on just confuse the hell out of them. this will flounder up down , one last big shake on BR BS release that there has been a problem , por7 at impass! then this will pop too, my guess is above the high around 75 85ish to take out all the ones who still own stock there and are thrilled to get their money back. this also will go along with tremendous spamming campaign that this is it no more $s for EC. also the spam will keep public away from buying at "SUCH A HIGH PRICE" as they(MM OR HF) keep covering/accum the stock. From there i have no idea but i am looking forward to the future. aimo
PS edit. this will conclude with the fewest people profiting as possible, bull moves w least aboard. so be aware of the games they will play, this is street fight not school yard where you call a time out
im very happy as far as the trading side of it goes. If my friend and I were short (this was our thinking last night) we would lean on the bid at 9.29am . take in shares from the bid and offer w a couple of our mm friends playing ball w us n make everyone who bought above 13-14 (recently)puke it all up. Well thats exactly what they did, have to see if the rest of the week plays out the way we would have traded it. our belief is they keep leaning on it until the vol dries up then runn it into the next hearing where their might or might not b a por7 or the next big clue. amo
ditto
another reason all the majors broke threw the 200 dma, n derivatives choking them still
could b some idiot reporter sending text to his her office from court for newswire hits
ROSEN already put news out as we speak
decide next week if shareholder deal poss
could move ahead w plan shrhldrs oppose
timimg for exit bankrptcy pushed back
blah blah rosen #$%^*( head
Reality is have some cake on the side to rob the idiots if they crush this 2maro playing on emotions and if not thats great stick w what u have. I do believe these are cheap shares still but I wont avrg up until there is more info. I know its hard to chase but I did at .06 n .08 I feel like we will be pissed at .50 we didnt get a dip or didnt buy more but some of us are choking on our positions. Hold tight should be pretty nuts in the morning. jmo
Actually Biz I feel like they are testing the bid n offer for 2maros games. I think it will start early to get everyones aattention (premarket if court starts at 930am). i STILL BELIEVE THEY ARE COVERING/BUILDING POSITION. amho
vol. is puzzeling, dont like it
It was a bullet point letter that started in red as "DANGER VERY RISKY BUT IM IN IT BIG, PERSONALLY!" I was made aware of a bankruptcy investment opportunity from a good fiend of mine. My first response was to giggle at him, the same response i get when I first speak with somebody about the Wamu situation. The reality is if you have ever bought a lottery ticket then you must own a little WAMUQ stock.
That was sorta feel for it then some bullet points and some real insight from this board and myself. it wasn't made for the masses really just some college n high school friends I grew up with. I will find the time to copy it in email form and you will see I am sure you guys can make a much better package to blast to the world! this again was for close friends so they know what I am doing and a few clients who always follow what I do. GLTA
Ya I thought it was very logical and seemed to be what I was seeing during the trading these last few days. Was happy he said it to me cause that confirmed my thinking which helps with as of this noise going on. glta
Thanks, the qulity here is par none, when you know how to sift through all the BS. I believe very good things to come but will test even the strongest of "2x value" and all types of believers. At the point you wanna throw up is when the best will come. They will make sure of it!IMHO
not emailable but certainly can make it so. much of what you are well informbed about but happy to send it out once I have a a little time to put in email form. It is an informal Red Herring IPO type herringsimilar to an imuch is from this board and I box. Happy to help how ever I can. will keep you updated on anything of the insight my friend and I come across.
Best to all
My pleasure, if its is something I feel is of substance I always want to share it with this community (ihub wamu). You all have pointed me to such great DD and a base to make informed decisions, I hope my 2 cents helps. been here for year n half, always lurking and my thoughts and best wishes are with all of you great people.
PS Ill be at the WYNN at the European style pool for the Vegas trip with a bunch of friends who are heavy in WAMU so I will get all of you comped. Cant wait its my favorite place out there. GLTA
I just spoke to my friend who sits on a trading desk on WS and he thinks the MMs are trying to make it look like this is around fair value extrapolated from what news is public at this time (which was my theory also). Many do not know tha facts in this case. When I told him about it last month at a bbq he giggled at me ans said " im suprised at you , thats not your flavor you are smarter than that" lololol. I said "ya, Im gona send you a package I put together for certain people, its a quick read and all of the info is documented". Needless to say he took a huge position in it in his personal account and we chat once a week on updates of progress. So, point is they seem to wana make this look like this was the play and its over. Expect another big shake soon, bull markets wana take off with the least amount of people on board. ajmo Just an FYI. Might have been discussed here already, sorry if mundane.
i get that, thought might b more to it, if germany markets open 2mro they might be able to scare more shares outta them for purposes of covering or building positions (which ever they are doing)saw Germany was up 20% on average across the exchanges there. Mayb looking to much into it. I am w most, holding for hero or zero effect.
ya sure, that traded naturally. please, stopped where it started, BS something is coming, why would they want to paint the tape at 0.00% gain/loss must be a good reason. imo
is anyone really expecting a news release this week? Or more likely we get more info June 6? TYI
a good shake should always be expected. my opinion is after bout 500% plus plus you have to have a lot of profit taking. Wont last very long aimo