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Thanks Rawnoc...now i know who to borrow money from to start my P2O franchise. I am sure he can toss me 400,000.
If I am not mistaken gambling actually increase when times are tough.
I found the "holy grail" in reference to his technology to retrieve data from old tapes not the P2O process.
I am sure some of the people are hired pumpers and bashers. Look at the sub-penny boards. Constant chatter probably keeping people buying so they can sell there next to worthless shares. I am in a couple sub pennies just for fun. Everything counts in large amounts lol.
If this is a scam they are going to run the stock up anyway lol.
Would it pay to do a reverse merger into a shell and go through all this for what little volume has gone through so far? It is a well planned one if it is and will run up on completely false news.
They are talking about some pretty big stuff with supposedly many inquiries into franchising ect. It may be a scam but it is certainly not over if it is. The ceo buying shares at $3 means nothing to me though because uncle Frank and aunt Edna could have piled up on shares and are selling them. You never know. For that matter which posters here are hired by the MM's?
BTW the machines being used now are not from TRNT.
You bet I would like to be at that meeting. It doesn't say they will announce it as news though.
I wouldn't say the oil to plastic process if real is a "holy grail." Oil is a commodity and its not in favor right now. The oil... I am not sure of the composition will have to be shipped to a refinery. Good for getting rid of old plastic if it works. Someone was comparing it to cold fusion in a post which is utter nonsense. If its for real it will spread fast if the machine isn't too complicated. Very many plastic companies where I am. Not only would the reground plastic that is not very good be used up but the other plastics that they throw in the garbage right now.
That being said its a little odd to me that the catalyst is the same for all types of plastic and rubber. Looks from the email I got that there will be info coming this month on the process to some degree. One more thing companies will be happy about is if they accidentally send and insert ( metal connectors in the parts) into the grinder they no longer have to throw the whole batch out.
here is the response i got from his email address again...
We are filing a patent application which is why I have not specifically disclosed the entire embodiment of the invention. We are not going to disclose any proprietary information about our large processor even though we can enjoy a "grace period" for patents in North America because many countries do not honor North America 's grace period. Until our application is filed, we will not disclose an image or detailed information about it. We will be disclosing information about our smaller machine that simulates the larger one (to some degree). This smaller lab machine allows us to experiment with all the variables that affect the larger processor, and without having to process 15 tons of plastics for results. We are receiving a gas chromatograph machine on July 14, 2009, and will report our output then. The smaller machine proves the processing time and abilities which will prove our abilities.
To answer your question about securing the technology: Even with a patent in place, there are those who will not honor one and proceed to copy. China and Japan are always copying North America 's technology. Last time I was in Japan , it was difficult to find something that hadn't been replicated. That said, we will not be patenting the catalysts used in our technology. We are looking to buy a chemical supplier so that we can mask our catalyst composition within its business. Our technology can be secured the same way I have secured my tape drive technology and the same way Coke safeguards their formulas - no disclosure.
From a mechanical perspective, we are not reinventing the wheel. Plastic to furnace oil is being done in 3rd world countries. Their machines massively pollute the environment and exhaust dioxins in many cases. They also use a lot of energy so their systems would not be useful here. They can only run the systems economically because they are paying their workers $0.33/hr or less. -- and that is another reason why you don't see them in the US or Canada .
Our catalyst enables us to run at a lower temperature and crack the plastic into hydrocarbons much faster than is presently being done. This is key to reduce energy costs and labor.
Lastly, I believe it is important to advise you that this all doesn't happen overnight. It takes time to build a solid infrastructure, a plug and play system and put controls in place. The machines cost upwards of $90,000US. Our first large-volume system is being shipped to us on July 10, 2009. In addition it will take approx 6 welders, construction workers, and assemblers about 3 weeks to assemble our first machine. We will document and optimize the process for future franchisees. It's only then that we can build on our growth model. That said, I believe we have the technology and business plan in place to execute it.
We will be disclosing our efficiencies through a demonstration of our small processor shortly after the gas chromatograph arrives.
You may wish to attend our annual meeting that will be announced shortly. A couple of significant investment banks/VC have contacted me about attending our AGM to do DD. That said, we are working _very_ quickly to get the patent application in and the large processor functional.
“ Hi I am a very interested investor but other people and I have a few concerns.”
With respect to this statement, please invest when you are comfortable with our disclosure and technology. We are not VC funded, we have no selling pressure and we are in this for the long-term. Many investors have been to our site and I believe (and have been advised) that most are holding for the long-term so buying in any volume is near impossible. Our NOBO list shows we have in excess of 300 shareholders.
Regards,
John Bordynuik
CEO
310 Holdings Inc
Low volume... see what happens when some real volume starts to come in.
Might be good kids aren't picky the animation is lack luster IMO
I can't seem to find how many shares are outstanding and the public float. Anyone know?
This should be the first news we get...
You may wish to attend our annual meeting that will be announced shortly. A couple of significant investment banks/VC have contacted me about attending our AGM to do DD. That said, we are working _very_ quickly to get the patent application in and the large processor functional.
Such low volume...we are the only ones buying so far i think with the low volume we are having. Just my opinion.
Can't reply privately. I am full up on repr.
I have my bids in for the morning tomorrow but I will not chase it. If I don't get it at the right price my small position will be what I stay with. The public float is very small atm so it may run away from me. There is always another trade. Actually if you look at short term the tapes are where most of the money is at $22 each. The P2O will be a little later. One thing if the information is correct that will be very nice is that plastic that usually cannot be ground and re-used will now be able to be made into oil. Also from experience the plastic that can be re-used is way oversupplied because it loses many of its properties after the first use. Usually added to the raw materials at a 50% or less or it will make junk parts. Re-used plastic good have a tendency to have very poor tolerances ect. It looks like its going to be a while before they hit market saturation on the tapes (there is a crapload of them out there), but when they run out its all over for that part of the income.
P2O will be huge by then if everything goes well. Still some risk but looking pretty good to me. I hope the ingredients for the catalist are not easy to figure out.
Mine too but it will cost me more for my shares now.
I already received a response which satisfied me. This is a copy of the email.
We are filing a patent application which is why I have not specifically disclosed the entire embodiment of the invention. We are not going to disclose any proprietary information about our large processor even though we can enjoy a "grace period" for patents in North America because many countries do not honor North America 's grace period. Until our application is filed, we will not disclose an image or detailed information about it. We will be disclosing information about our smaller machine that simulates the larger one (to some degree). This smaller lab machine allows us to experiment with all the variables that affect the larger processor, and without having to process 15 tons of plastics for results. We are receiving a gas chromatograph machine on July 14, 2009, and will report our output then. The smaller machine proves the processing time and abilities which will prove our abilities.
To answer your question about securing the technology: Even with a patent in place, there are those who will not honor one and proceed to copy. China and Japan are always copying North America 's technology. Last time I was in Japan , it was difficult to find something that hadn't been replicated. That said, we will not be patenting the catalysts used in our technology. We are looking to buy a chemical supplier so that we can mask our catalyst composition within its business. Our technology can be secured the same way I have secured my tape drive technology and the same way Coke safeguards their formulas - no disclosure.
From a mechanical perspective, we are not reinventing the wheel. Plastic to furnace oil is being done in 3rd world countries. Their machines massively pollute the environment and exhaust dioxins in many cases. They also use a lot of energy so their systems would not be useful here. They can only run the systems economically because they are paying their workers $0.33/hr or less. -- and that is another reason why you don't see them in the US or Canada .
Our catalyst enables us to run at a lower temperature and crack the plastic into hydrocarbons much faster than is presently being done. This is key to reduce energy costs and labor.
Lastly, I believe it is important to advise you that this all doesn't happen overnight. It takes time to build a solid infrastructure, a plug and play system and put controls in place. The machines cost upwards of $90,000US. Our first large-volume system is being shipped to us on July 10, 2009. In addition it will take approx 6 welders, construction workers, and assemblers about 3 weeks to assemble our first machine. We will document and optimize the process for future franchisees. It's only then that we can build on our growth model. That said, I believe we have the technology and business plan in place to execute it.
We will be disclosing our efficiencies through a demonstration of our small processor shortly after the gas chromatograph arrives.
You may wish to attend our annual meeting that will be announced shortly. A couple of significant investment banks/VC have contacted me about attending our AGM to do DD. That said, we are working _very_ quickly to get the patent application in and the large processor functional.
“ Hi I am a very interested investor but other people and I have a few concerns.”
With respect to this statement, please invest when you are comfortable with our disclosure and technology. We are not VC funded, we have no selling pressure and we are in this for the long-term. Many investors have been to our site and I believe (and have been advised) that most are holding for the long-term so buying in any volume is near impossible. Our NOBO list shows we have in excess of 300 shareholders.
Regards,
John Bordynuik
CEO
310 Holdings Inc
I am satisfied with that answer BTW
Umm wasn't expecting a response on a sunday. This is the copy of the email sent to me.
We are filing a patent application which is why I have not specifically disclosed the entire embodiment of the invention. We are not going to disclose any proprietary information about our large processor even though we can enjoy a "grace period" for patents in North America because many countries do not honor North America 's grace period. Until our application is filed, we will not disclose an image or detailed information about it. We will be disclosing information about our smaller machine that simulates the larger one (to some degree). This smaller lab machine allows us to experiment with all the variables that affect the larger processor, and without having to process 15 tons of plastics for results. We are receiving a gas chromatograph machine on July 14, 2009, and will report our output then. The smaller machine proves the processing time and abilities which will prove our abilities.
To answer your question about securing the technology: Even with a patent in place, there are those who will not honor one and proceed to copy. China and Japan are always copying North America 's technology. Last time I was in Japan , it was difficult to find something that hadn't been replicated. That said, we will not be patenting the catalysts used in our technology. We are looking to buy a chemical supplier so that we can mask our catalyst composition within its business. Our technology can be secured the same way I have secured my tape drive technology and the same way Coke safeguards their formulas - no disclosure.
From a mechanical perspective, we are not reinventing the wheel. Plastic to furnace oil is being done in 3rd world countries. Their machines massively pollute the environment and exhaust dioxins in many cases. They also use a lot of energy so their systems would not be useful here. They can only run the systems economically because they are paying their workers $0.33/hr or less. -- and that is another reason why you don't see them in the US or Canada .
Our catalyst enables us to run at a lower temperature and crack the plastic into hydrocarbons much faster than is presently being done. This is key to reduce energy costs and labor.
Lastly, I believe it is important to advise you that this all doesn't happen overnight. It takes time to build a solid infrastructure, a plug and play system and put controls in place. The machines cost upwards of $90,000US. Our first large-volume system is being shipped to us on July 10, 2009. In addition it will take approx 6 welders, construction workers, and assemblers about 3 weeks to assemble our first machine. We will document and optimize the process for future franchisees. It's only then that we can build on our growth model. That said, I believe we have the technology and business plan in place to execute it.
We will be disclosing our efficiencies through a demonstration of our small processor shortly after the gas chromatograph arrives.
You may wish to attend our annual meeting that will be announced shortly. A couple of significant investment banks/VC have contacted me about attending our AGM to do DD. That said, we are working _very_ quickly to get the patent application in and the large processor functional.
“ Hi I am a very interested investor but other people and I have a few concerns.”
With respect to this statement, please invest when you are comfortable with our disclosure and technology. We are not VC funded, we have no selling pressure and we are in this for the long-term. Many investors have been to our site and I believe (and have been advised) that most are holding for the long-term so buying in any volume is near impossible. Our NOBO list shows we have in excess of 300 shareholders.
Regards,
John Bordynuik
CEO
310 Holdings Inc
I sent an email ( concerning TRTN) to ask how they plan to safeguard the plastic to oil process or if there is a patent pending. Maybe ill call. When i get a response I will post it.
I sent an email asking how they plan to safeguard the plastic to oil process or if there is a patent pending ect. If i get a response ill post it here.
Lets see 2 things that concern me....
The public float is ludicrous.
The real estate bubble is no where near done bursting.
Fun one to play with a couple hundred bucks in and see what happens, but a reverse split has to be coming sometime in the future and they are quite painful.
Don't bet the farm on it.
IMHO
14,000 people is a pretty good base to find workers in. Many factories are located in towns with 5,000 people. You have to remember all of the people living outside the immediate town too. Having a help wanted add out for a long time doesn't mean much. There are companies I have seen looking for employees all the time even when they aren't hiring. Nothing to worry about. Been there done that seen it. As for getting 2nd shift up too speed usually people are moved from first temporarily or given a supervisor job ect. as incentive and it is done quickly. After looking at the website it doesn't even look like they are hiring assemblers anymore. The production of the parts must be outsourced. From my experience medical companies are a pain in the but to make parts for because of very high standards in keeping parts clean. Getting higher production of the outsourced parts will probably be very easy in this economy.
Whoops that didn't print right it was supposed to be Y2K squared lol.
2
Global warming = Y2K
I have never owned 1 million shares before of a stock. I want to fall asleep and wake up seeing it pushing a dollar lol.
I just have a small position so I am in it for "long" term on TRTN.
When to pull out is a little tricky lol
I thought for sure the fact that the news is late on EGMI would pull it back down so I could get some more but no luck so far.
I heard on the news that some of the republicans stated that they voted for it because if they didn't something worse was going to go into effect directly from the EPA. I no longer am a republican unless the party gets turned to a completely different direction. That's part of the reason i bought so many shares in medical and want more in gambling because they will feel no effects as far as I can see.
That is the truth and the odd thing is that according to what I was watching on the news temperatures have flatlined since 2001 and a majority of the scientists now say global warming is not from our fuel use. I also heard along time ago that one of the volcanoes that erupted gave off more emissions than the whole industrial revolutions output since its beginning. Not sure of source on that one.
Didn't see this board over here before how well do you guys do trading the pinks? I saw the top picks but i have no idea how many failures come along with those.
The only stock i have that I want to go down is EGMI and its not working out. I want to buy some more for under $1.
I am afraid of problems with stocks in the long term because of the possible passing of "cap and trade." Im going to try keep most of my cash I have left in my accounts for gold/gold stocks or a big time bargain. Hard to say, but the one thing we have going for us we didn't have in other recessions is the constant flow of money into 401k. People will continue to do it because the companies they work for often match what they put in so they can lose 50% and still be on even ground. I doubled my money on gold and silver but looking forward on that front I will not go back in unless there is a big correction.
Then my small position will be sufficient to get me some good cash... its either gonna be a flop or its going to be a grand slam like you said.
I would be careful with TRTN. It smells almost like a scam. If they can change plastic into oil using the fumes to fuel the process they would be all over the news IMO. I have taken a small position, but I smell a rat. There have been scams that ran stocks to $20 a share so it may not matter at this point. Just saying if your one of the lucky ones who got in at .50 sell half of it to get your cash out.
sorry to post right away but Google says TRNT only has 4 mil shares outstanding. Is that correct?
How much does it cost for TRNT to make plastic into oil per barrel?
Can't really say how i found you guys. I was surfing the net like crazy. Could have been a link on raging bull but the stock would be unknown. Only can post three times today so I see you tomorrow.