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On this board, you'll be surprised.
But don't take my word for it, rail on. Other investor boards, I'm just not going to worry about.
BigTalon will be just fine, and so will patient ENZC shareholders.
Criticism is warranted, but as you said, if the stock is useless move on, leave it for the interested parties.
The tough times ENZC shareholders have suffered through does stoke justified frustration, major frustration, but good news will be upcoming.
I personally, would pay no heed to ENZC PR's, but wait until those you are concerned about, post their own announcements. And they will.
GLTA.
Mutat is correct. Not a single share to Chandra, Catropias or Fellegy have been released or sold off in any way.
There's a really good reason for that.
Stay tuned and stay patient. I'd also advise not putting too much into any PR coming out prior to BIG NEWS coming out later.
GLTA
It certainly is, but not how you describe it.
Take the complaints elsewhere. There's stuff going on, but here's two facts I can give you.
Charles and Chandra are gone from ENZC yes, so are their BGEN IP's, patent apps, and research assets. Harry, ENZC and SAGA can no longer touch them or ever file a claim to them.
Charles and Chandra have not sold or released even 1 of their stock shares in ENZC since they got them. Put that back into your calculus.
Brighter futures for ENZC shareholders ahead. Might not be with ENZC, but for the shareholders of ENZC.
Based upon that, I'm going to be patient for a while longer and hold.
GLTY, elsewhere.
Correct.
Well, since I'm the one that found the lab-lights had been turned off myself and posted the pictures here, and now tell you that its best to sit and wait on ENZC, I must have reasons for it, right basher?
Look, we all had good discussions about what was going wrong at ENZC, and I can tell you on good authority, we, for some good conjecture and fact-sharing, did have a lot of it right, as to what was happening, but it was a flipped-situation on how it was happening.
So now, on good information that became available, I will wait and see about ENZC. I was ready to sell off on a spike, but now I will wait until I see the right PR or public announcement that rings true before I act. I have good reason to hold and believe that the work on Clone3 and Clone7 will see the light of day sometime in the not-so-forboding future.
I will tell you, like I posted right after the last PR, I have no faith in the new 'Medical Device Sales and Distribution' angle, but I have faith in some other factors I believe will arise.
GLTY And don't ever challenge my integrity again.
I can assure you that Charles and Chandra own the IP's at present, and they are not fully removed from ENZC at this time. BGEN is mostly a non-entity at present, being held in readiness for a new interation.
There is a lot going on, and its best to sit tight on your ENZC investments, while some things play through. ENZC is transitioning, but not the way you think.
GLTY
And there are far bigger reasons they held every share they ever owned at ENZC, which is the case!
Don't sell your ENZC show tickets either.
Sorry to hear that. I wish the big guy had spoken out sooner. Anyway, it's still and opportunity.
Brighter lights are on the way. Sit tight, do not sell off.
SIT TIGHT with your ENZC investments and wait. Trust me. I just emailed some of the info to another member here, but apparently someone is trying to stop me from helping the membership here.
Not totally fluff, but I get what you're saying. I wonder if the new version of IPF Immune even hits the stores. Selling off a few hundred bottles of the older stuff, probably all bought by past, excited ENZC shareholders, does not impress me. Everyone who tried it on this board felt no difference after taking it, from what I remember.
At least they're putting 'something out'.
Sure is irresponsible though, as you clearly state.
GLTY
Yeah, I miss Mags, always had good info and was very generous with it. Hope he shows up again, maybe on another page when the ENZC post-mortem passes over. I know he had a really good position with them if they ever break .10c or higher again. I will be watching MABS-TECH, Charles new baby, as Clone3 and Clone7 have something going on there. Better to know what happens after all of this time than not too, imho.
So I saw, but Aussie deployment has been used by scam artists before, so I'll watch and wait a bit. Thanks for the tip. When you see it here or even in Canada, its usually legit all the way.
GLTY
The cannibis stocks have shown little fruition over the years, even at the height of their 2018 popularity. I'm kinda' avoiding those, except for a good day-trade.
Thx!
Africa testing had to be under Harry's purview now, so it's a question to dot-him in his forehead, the next time he pulls his head out of the ground to talk.
Hell, I'm already brushing my teeth clean of it now. Nasty as it has been. Not going to waste my mind or spirit over the loss, just maneuvering in case of a spike, and being ready to see what Monoclonal Antibody Technologies Inc winds up doing, once there's an actual website and news source about it. (Have a sneaking suspicion that a MABS-TECH website's homepage might have a "Formerly known as BGEN" line on it, but not putting any stock into that idea either.)
A decent spike is still possible, if Harry's IPV-1 scores something decent. I have no faith in Sharabura doing another hardware distribution number as he did once before and went out of business over poor quality and service issues for his allegedly rugged tablets and laptop operations.
For now, just sitting on the fence, waiting for a decent opportunity to sell out. If SAGA rises from the dead with a decent holding, which I seriously doubt, I may reconsider.
GLTA
Anything's possible at this point, only good guestimates and some lite-raw facts available right now.
That May release and the alleged update on one of the Patent apps, which had been scheduled for May, should be interesting.
I imagine there are some guys in Bulgaria either laughing their asses off over this, or really p-o'ed right about now. Wondering about where the Euro trial status and research is at now? I'd bet concluded and sitting in Charles' back pocket, all part of his runaway plan.
To my knowledge, not much, but if those shares still exist, talk about 'free shares" if ENZC does hit something on a gain? They'd not burn them for no cash in-hand at ENZC these days.
ohh, funny.....
Agreed. but I also agree, whatever crooked settlement he took off on with the IP's in hand, he may still own significant shares of ENZC not fully disclosed.
May not be the case, and ENZC is obviously not any priority with him, but the share differences reported from date-2-date, with agreements on those shares in jeopardy, don't quite add up.
We'll see.
Yeah, I figured that release was full of contradictory smoke, with the arsonists trying to find cover. July it is.
GLTA
Yeah, I figured that release was full of contradictory smoke, with the arsonists trying to find cover. July it is.
GLTA
Yeah, after so many company changes and updated positions therein, it's just an incestuous group of guys following a path to profits, somewhere, sometime.
His history goes a ways back, mostly research and/or advisory positions. Joe C is also still listed as living in College Station. Seems like their main group now dates back together at least by 2018, and earlier. So, it's obviously all planned out well in advance, whatever jerk-water maneuver they are up to. But, that in times of company dissolution and no sales revenues yet, that they keep the researchers on tell you they're not just setting up another scam operation, they intend to move product at some point.
Sure enough, they had the labs on month-to-month leasing status after 12/31/2023. Could have well been planned, even more of a scam operation, except for the fact that everyone seems to feel this scam has the goods and a path to serious profits, unlike a lot of other PINK sheet scams.
Enzolytics seems to have put out a ton they had no permanent ownership to.
Hey 'chilles, I hear what you're saying and in any normal corporate and stock structure, you'd be right. But in OTC:PINK land, they could have had some side deal as part of a 'separation clause' in the original merger contract. It would be good to see that actual contract from a few years back, but we probably never will. That clause might have stated both parties leave with what they entered the merger with. That may have given Charles the IPs back, even if unethically in a public shareholder situation.
Charles may be counting on PINK as his protection from any serious legal challenges, knowing the SEC and other state entities may not pursue such a case if it arises. I'd even bet he's prepared to move the company to Korea if the heat got bad enough from shareholder complaints.
There is so much still to be answered for in the BGEN dissolution from the SAGA deal, the IP ownerships and access, and this new hardware distribution model Sharabura wants to pursue now, etc.... I imagine every PR draft they do now, has about 100 revisions before they post it publicly. They've created their own minefield to tip-toe through at this point.
GLTY
Paul Fellegy is an interesting name on there. He was helping coordinate some of the lab operations in A&M's campus, and he's living in an apartment/condo in College Station now, near the campus. Looks to me, since Charles kept IP and researchers as company officers, and no lab at present, but a connection to Samsung's main campus in Korea, that his new company is probably ready, if not already, producing the Clone 3 & 7 antibodies for private trials.
(Something that should have happened long ago.)
And you're right, starting this in 2023, was pure covert activity, fast at that. Harry and SAGA either complied for a piece of the new company success and we don't know about it, or Charles had them beat down good in some form of legal manner. It's also possible there is a settlement side-deal, where Charles' new company will provide Clone3 for the IPV-1 combo treatments, thereby also making Harry richer as a compound cure formula. This was proposed in earlier PR's.
Just look at the timing and positioning, they have a Samsung in Korea campus lab option now, the IP's clean and away from ENZC (probably, I know I'm speculating here) researchers and operations going on now, coordinated out of Charles' house, and they've kept folks they would have otherwise gotten rid of. Like I said, keep your eyes on Monoclonal Antibody Tech in the coming weeks and months. If I were Charles, at this point and with his own age, I'd be ready to move fast. My gut tells me they now have both Clone3 and Clone7 refined to a releasable market product, just need approvals and partners. And now, Samsung may really be a partner.
GLTA
Yes, that could easily be how it is, no question. BUT, these guys already seem to be following rules off the book regarding their SPAC deal, or no rules whatsoever. It will be interesting how much of their next few PR's will be pure spin to avoid embarrassment and legal issues, as well as real information. Harry's past history is what worries me the most now. I'm so ready to sell on a spike.
They'd have to show some real news to keep me now. I've got a couple of hot energy stocks I want into, and this one is just holding me back.
GLTY
That's what I was musing about last week. I think Kostiner and Catropia are still thick as thieves, and that BGEN and MABS-Tech will merge with a new SAGA SPAC offer, but not so overtly as I just wrote it. (Something like that. I think its hail-Mary for SAGA to move ahead with Clone3/7, and be elusive to legal claims from ENZC or its shareholders.)
I had Legal Zoom do my incorporation and registration as a Texas Business. That cost me all of $900.00. I pay $250.00 per year for the Legal Zoom team to act as my registered agent for my S-Corp status in Texas to keep me current.
It can be done cheap and fast, from any state.
GLTA
There was one old PR, and on the one Emerging Technologies Online Investor Forum broadcast, where Harry told how he developed the delivery systems for both Clone3 and Clone7, and helped modify Clone7 with the additional conserved sites mapped out by the AI tool. It was the last time anyone even mentioned any work by J. Catropia, to my knowledge.
And then on the same broadcast, Charles said this was all ENZC proprietary product, no mention of any other effectively active ownership other than ENZC. SAGA bought all IP, which I do not think was contingent on a NASDAQ listing, and would not bother buying BGEN without it.
LOL,,, no argument there, but ENZC does exist, so SAGA could sub-out stuff until the new entities get listed again as businesses in operation.
It's a mess, but one thing these low-lifes do well, is get new companies up and in soft operation fairly fast.
Totally agree, just said you're part of the discussion with today's most valuable post. I'm withholding judgement but acknowledging the speculation of others here is highly probable, by about 65% imho.
Still, I'm hoping what I see as the 35% possible alternative will still come to pass.
GLTY
Now that we're in the trips, the sales volume should remain immense until the next PR.
Okay, but if Kostiner set up that SPAC for BGEN and the deal fell apart, ownership no longer existed on the Subs, then it should all have fallen back to ENZC, it can't fall past that without Harry signing off on it.
So many legal corporate issues and loophole for a miniature research level company with about 10 or less employees. I have a company the same size, happy to keep it private.
Okay, but if Kostiner set up that SPAC for BGEN and the deal fell apart, ownership no longer existed on the Subs, then it should all have fallen back to ENZC, it can't fall past that without Harry signing off on it.
So many legal corporate issues and loophole for a miniature research level company with about 10 or less employees. I have a company the same size, happy to keep it private.
Well, public claims were that ENZC owned it after the initial merger, and SAGA owned it outright after that SPAC signature. So, you may be right, but a lease situation would have been dubious at best. How he got full rights back to take off with it, SAGA must answer for it.
I have not seen it either. It's all a speculative discussion with Dyno, Valuator, Achilles and Falon. Because the last filing did not specify any assets in BGEN, the group opinion seems to be, that there are none. I found a lot of missing basics in that filing, so I am not so sure. The only way that happens was with some really corrupt back-door dealing with SAGA, as the only common factor of how BGEN may be an empty shell now. The bottom line is, SAGA had to give that back to CC and Chandra.
It's not etched in stone SA, just the most probable situation for now.
GLTY
IMHO, I think Charles worked back-door with Kostiner to free the assets up to their original owners and, showed Harry a slight profit to begone. It's really the only way this empty shell of BGEN could happen.
Therein lies the loophole, SAGA collusion to keep ENZC partnered with SAGA while freeing up CC and Chandra with the IP's, and probably another deal for Kostiner, if MABS-Tech starts showing some promise. I suspect MABS-Tech will have some big news earlier, than later on testing trials. I don't see a guy like Kostiner, where 3/4 of his funding projects fail, just giving the IP's back to CC and Chandra for nothing. Contract said SAGA owned all of it, not CC and Chandra, Chandra's ownership part being dubious.