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New I would get ya...hey this ain't about politics.....
just about the dumbsheets in politics
Watch the news here: #msg-13686556
Looks like ABC's been following it for only a day or two, but his proclivities may have been known to Congressional leaders for some time. That surely will lead to more questions if there was an effort to "protect" him.
Well, now that the cat is out of the bag and other pages are coming forward, he may not get "simple retirement". Wonder where this will lead with other politicians? Just what the country needs now. :(
Seen ABC News?
It's not his political party that bothers me.
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Republican Foley resigns US House seat
Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:59 PM ET
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Sept 29 (Reuters) - Six-term Republican Rep. Mark Foley of Florida resigned from the U.S. Congress on Friday following reports he sent sexually inappropriate e-mails to underage congressional interns.
Foley, chairman of the House caucus on missing and exploited children, said he would resign immediately after ABC News reported he sent messages to current and former congressional pages with repeated references to sexual organs and acts.
"Today I have delivered a letter to the Speaker of the House informing him of my decision to resign from the U.S. House of Representatives, effective today," Foley said in a statement.
"I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent."
Foley's decision to resign just five weeks before the Nov. 7 congressional election complicated Republican efforts to retain control of the House of Representatives. Democrats must pick up 15 seats to reclaim a House majority.
Lawyers from both parties were examining Florida election laws to see if his name can be removed from the ballot in his Republican-leaning district, party sources said, but it might be too late.
Foley won re-election in 2004 with 68 percent of the vote and was favored to win in November over Democrat Tim Mahoney, a self-funding financial officer. President George W. Bush carried the district with 54 percent of the vote.
Foley was the author of the key sexual predator provisions of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, which Bush signed in July.
Foley, who represents a district in southern Florida, also was a member of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, which oversees tax and trade policy.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-09-29T195629Z_01...
Interesting. Thanks.
Would you know the periods when either party controlled the Executive Branch and both houses of Congress at the same time? TIA
YES! some gonads being shown.
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Senate Wins Fight To Lower Allowable Amperage Levels On Detainees' Testicles
September 29, 2006 | Issue 42•40
WASHINGTON, DC—Led by a bipartisan group of senators critical of White House policy on suspected terrorists, the Senate passed a bill Thursday that prohibits interrogators from exceeding 100 amps per testicle when questioning detainees. "Even in times of war, it counterproductive and wrong to employ certain inhumane interrogation techniques, and using three-digit amperage levels on the testicles of captives constitutes torture," said Sen. John Warner (R-VA), who has also supported reducing the size of attack dogs and the height of nude pyramids. "Using amperages of 99 and lower, with approved surge protectors on the jumper-cable clamps, are the hallmarks of a civilized society." The legislation did not address amperage restrictions on suspected terrorists' labia.
wwwtheonion.com/content/node/53539
CNN has a 2-hr Rumsfeld piece on Sunday
Hmmm, it's going to be a "politics" weekend...
Sep 28, 2006 5:58 pm US/Eastern
Bob Woodward: Bush Misleads On Iraq
Tells 60 Minutes' Mike Wallace Kissinger Is Regular Visitor To White House
(CBS News) NEW YORK Veteran Washington reporter Bob Woodward tells Mike Wallace that the Bush administration has not told the truth regarding the level of violence, especially against U.S. troops, in Iraq. He also reveals key intelligence that predicts the insurgency will grow worse next year.
In Wallace's interview with Woodward, to be broadcast on 60 Minutes this Sunday, Oct. 1, at 7 p.m. ET/PT, the reporter also claims that Henry Kissenger is among those advising Mr. Bush.
According to Woodward, insurgent attacks against coalition troops occur, on average, every 15 minutes, a shocking fact the administration has kept secret. "It?s getting to the point now where there are eight-, nine-hundred attacks a week. That's more than 100 a day. That is four an hour attacking our forces," says Woodward.
The situation is getting much worse, says Woodward, despite what the White House and the Pentagon are saying in public. "The truth is that the assessment by intelligence experts is that next year, 2007, is going to get worse and, in public, you have the president and you have the Pentagon [saying], 'Oh, no, things are going to get better,'" he tells Wallace. "Now there?s public, and then there?s private. But what did they do with the private? They stamp it secret. No one is supposed to know," says Woodward.
"The insurgents know what they are doing. They know the level of violence and how effective they are. Who doesn't know? The American public," Woodward tells Wallace.
Woodward also reports that the president and vice president often meet with Henry Kissinger, who was President Richard Nixon?s secretary of state, as an adviser. Says Woodward, "Now what?s Kissinger?s advice? In Iraq, he declared very simply, ?Victory is the only meaningful exit strategy.'" Woodward adds. "This is so fascinating. Kissinger?s fighting the Vietnam War again because, in his view, the problem in Vietnam was we lost our will."
President Bush is absolutely certain that he has the U.S. and Iraq on the right course, says Woodward. So certain is the president on this matter, Woodward says, that when Mr. Bush had key Republicans to the White House to discuss Iraq, he told them, "I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me."
Woodward reported for two years and interviewed more than 200 people, including top officials in the Bush administration, to learn these and other revelations that he makes in his latest book, State of Denial, published by Simon & Schuster, part of the CBS Corp.
http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/topstories_story_271110225.html
...I guess thats why there coming over are boarder in droves, where so evil!
My bet is before the elections Rummy announces he's resigning. Excuses, blame, or whatever--well, that's politics. The important thing is to keep any dirt from sticking to the Pres, so you be sure he won't be "fired". JMO. Other opinions welcome.
Rumsfeld leaving in the next few weeks?
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Bush chief of staff urged Rumsfeld be fired-book
Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:35 PM ET
By David Alexander
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's former chief of staff tried twice to persuade the U.S. leader to fire Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld but failed, The Washington Post reported on Friday, citing a new book by investigative reporter Bob Woodward.
Woodward wrote that White House chief of staff Andrew Card urged Bush to replace Rumsfeld with former Secretary of State James Baker following the 2004 election, the Post reported on its Web site.
Bush decided not to do so after Vice President Dick Cheney and political adviser Karl Rove convinced him the move would be seen as an expression of doubt about the direction of the war and expose him to criticism, according to the book.
Card, with the backing of first lady Laura Bush, tried a second time to persuade Bush to fire Rumsfeld around Thanksgiving 2005, the book says. But the president again refused to act.
The book raises more questions about the administration's handling of the Iraq war only days after a government intelligence report was disclosed suggesting the war was doing more to endanger U.S. security rather than bolster it.
The book, written by the Post assistant managing editor well known for his role in forcing President Richard Nixon to resign in 1974 in the Watergate scandal, put the Bush White House on the defensive.
White House press secretary Tony Snow was besieged by questions at his daily briefing and said he had been unable to reach Card, who resigned as chief of staff in March of this year.
CALLS FOR RUMSFELD TO RESIGN
A group of top Senate Democrats promptly renewed calls for Rumsfeld's resignation.
"We believe, many of us, that he has to go and we are going to be renewing our efforts in a number of ways to urge the president to find a new secretary of defense," Sen. Charles Schumer of New York said on Capitol Hill.
Woodward's new book, "State of Denial," is his third about the administration since the September 11 attacks. It is scheduled for release next week.
While the earlier books were criticized by some as painting Bush as a hero, the current work portrays senior administration officials as being unable to face the consequences of their Iraq policy, the Post reported.
The book says officials in the White House and the Pentagon voiced concern about the conduct of the war and the conflict in Iraq in reports and internal memos, even as Bush, Rumsfeld and other senior officials insisted publicly the situation was going well.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Rumsfeld have both been repeatedly warned about worsening conditions in Iraq, Woodward wrote in the book.
Woodward wrote that a secret intelligence report circulated in May predicted violence would continue for the rest of 2006 and increase in 2007.
While some military leaders have expressed concerns about Iraq, Woodward wrote that Rumsfeld has twice made sure to choose men who would not challenge him to be chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- Air Force Gen. Richard Myers and Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace.
The book says when Rice served as national security adviser she frequently was at odds with Rumsfeld, and her staff was concerned about the lack of a strategy to win in Iraq.
When Rice became secretary of state in 2005, she asked an old friend to assess the situation in Iraq. The book quotes his report to Rice as saying "Iraq remains a failed state shadowed by constant violence and undergoing revolutionary political change."
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-09-29T193535Z_01_N...
This link should be helpful:
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Tidal/index.html
'One degree and we're done for'
27 September 2006
From New Scientist Print Edition.
Fred Pearce
Climate change hotspots"
Further global warming of 1 °C defines a critical threshold. Beyond that we will likely see changes that make Earth a different planet than the one we know."
So says Jim Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. Hansen and colleagues have analysed global temperature records and found that surface temperatures have been increasing by an average of 0.2 °C every decade for the past 30 years. Warming is greatest in the high latitudes of the northern hemisphere, particularly in the sub-Arctic boreal forests of Siberia and North America. Here the melting of ice and snow is exposing darker surfaces that absorb more sunlight and increase warming, creating a positive feedback.
Earth is already as warm as at any time in the last 10,000 years, and is within 1 °C of being its hottest for a million years, says Hansen's team. Another decade of business-as-usual carbon emissions will probably make it too late to prevent the ecosystems of the north from triggering runaway climate change, the study concludes (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, vol 103, p 14288).
The analysis reinforces a series of recent findings on accelerating environmental disruption in Siberia, northern Canada and Alaska, underlining a growing scientific consensus that these regions are pivotal to climate change. Earlier this month, NASA scientists reported that climate change was speeding up the melting of Arctic sea ice. Permanent sea ice has contracted by 14 per cent in the past two years (Geophysical Research Letters, vol 33, L17501). However, warming and melting have been just as dramatic on land in the far north.
A meeting on Siberian climate change held in Leicester, UK, last week confirmed that Siberia has become a hotspot of global climate change. Geographer Heiko Balzter, of the University of Leicester, said central Siberia has warmed by almost 2 °C since 1970 - that's three times the global average.
Meanwhile, Stuart Chapin of the University of Alaska Fairbanks this week reported that air temperatures in the Alaskan interior have risen by 2 °C since 1950, and permafrost temperatures have risen by 2.5 °C (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0606955103).
In Siberia the warming is especially pronounced in winter. "It has caused the onset of spring to advance by as much as one day a year since satellite observations began in 1982," says Balzter. Similarly, Alaskan springs now arrive two weeks earlier than in 1950, according to Chapin.
The Leicester meeting heard that the rising temperatures are causing ecological changes in the forests that ratchet up the warming still further. Vladimir Petko from the Russian Academy of Sciences Forest Research Institute in Krasnoyarsk says warm springs are triggering plagues of moths. "They can eat the needles of entire forest regions in one summer," he says. The trees die and then usually succumb to forest fires that in turn destroy soil vegetation and accelerate the melting of permafrost, Petko says.
In 2003 Siberia saw a record number of forest fires, losing 40,000 square kilometres according to Balzter, who has analysed remote sensing images of the region. Similar changes are occurring in Alaska. According to Chapin, warming there has shortened the life cycle of the bark beetle from two years to one, causing huge infestations and subsequent fires, which destroyed huge areas of forest in 2004. "The current boreal forest zone could be so dried out by 2090 that the trees will die off and be replaced by steppe," says Nadezhda Tchebakova, also at the institute in Krasnoyarsk.
Melting permafrost in the boreal forests and further north in the Arctic tundra is also triggering the release of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, from thick layers of thawing peat. First reports published exclusively in New Scientist last year (13 August 2005, p 12) were recently confirmed by US scientists (Nature, vol 443, p 71).
"Large amounts of greenhouse gases are currently locked in the permafrost and if released could accelerate the greenhouse effect," says Balzter. Hansen's paper concludes that the effects of this positive feedback could be huge. "In past eras, the release of methane from melting permafrost and destabilised sediments on continental shelves has probably been responsible for some of the largest warmings in the Earth's history," he says.
We could be close to unleashing similar events in the 21st century, Hansen argues. Although the feedbacks should remain modest as long as global temperatures remain within the range of recent interglacial periods of the past million years, outside that range - beyond a further warming of about 1 °C - the feedbacks could accelerate. Such changes may become inevitable if the world does not begin to curb greenhouse gas emissions within the next decade, Hansen says.
Meanwhile, another new study underlines that the boreal peat bogs, permafrost and pine forests are not just vital to the planet as a whole, they are major economic assets for the countries that host them. A detailed study of the northern boreal forests by environmental consultant Mark Anielski of Edmonton, Canada, puts the value of their "ecosystem services" at $250 billion a year, or $160 per hectare.
These benefits include flood control, water purification and pest control provided by forest birds, plus income from wilderness tourism and meat from wildlife such as caribou. Anielski presented his findings to Canada's National Forest Congress in Gatineau-Ottawa earlier this week.
The value of these ecosystem services is more than twice that of conventional resources taken from the region each year, such as timber, minerals, oil and hydroelectricity, Anielski says. "If they were counted in Canadian inventories of assets, they would amount to roughly 9 per cent of our gross domestic product - similar in value to our health and social services."
You can add to that figure the value of having such a huge volume of carbon locked away. "The boreal region is like a giant carbon bank account," he says. "At current prices in the European carbon emissions trading system, Canada's stored carbon alone would be worth $3.7 trillion."
And if Hansen is right that the carbon and methane stored in the boreal regions has the potential to transform the world into "another planet", then the boreal region may be worth a great deal more than that.
From issue 2571 of New Scientist magazine, 27 September 2006, page 8-9
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125713.300-one-degree-and-were-done-for.html
great speach
What you get when you cross spinach and a large peach?
...lets start a board called the Right Wing Conspirers! Then we can make up a bunch of right wing conspirasy theries and drive em crazier!!!!
Yuppers, dem "conspirasy theries" will do dat.
Seems to be a few people apamming today.
That's one I don't wish on anybody. I don't have the words for your parents and for you and your family on that one.
....lots more, but kinda tired - old folks get that way - lol
Fair enough. Maybe we'll get a chance to wrap this thread up tomorrow.
That one must have been pretty far down the list. lol. So why do you think males should serve after high school, but that women shouldn't? (Be patient, I'll pull it all together.)
Deferment? For what?
So had you not enlisted you likely would have been drafted?
Nitey-nite.
Hiding? How much more responsive can I be? Control yourself. Be patient. There's a thread here. No point in jumping ahead.
Patience.
The thread had to do with military recruiting and the continuing lowering of standards because we don't have a draft. You participated in this discussion, posted at least one article with commentary, and have posted snippets of your own experience. That is what prompted my question:
You said you were a "volunteer" during the Viet Nam draft era? Care to explain why? Education? Travel? Training? Absolute commitment to the reasons the U.S. was involved in Viet Nam? or because you knew you'd be drafted, at least you'd have your choice of service and assignment?
get it thru all of your think heads that this is psyops...
I need to thicket threw.
iamshazzam, regarding your volunteer service in Viet Nam...
Q. You said you were a "volunteer" during the Viet Nam draft era? Care to explain why? Education? Travel? Training? Absolute commitment to the reasons the U.S. was involved in Viet Nam? or because you knew you'd be drafted, at least you'd have your choice of service and assignment? #msg-13597634
A. did I say I was a volunteer during the vietnam era? where? #msg-13597760
Q. You said you volunteered, and implied it was during the Viet Nam era. #msg-13597865 "maybe my fellow servicemen and women (all volunteers)..." #msg-13594536 also, "i was there too" [ref Viet Nam] #msg-13598156
Now that I've answered your question, how about you answer mine and quit the "duck and cover" routine. Rollingrock was very direct and rather proud of his answer. #msg-13599174
...it seems to be headed back to the mid $52... not exactly the direction I was hopping for...
Now were all waiting with baited breath ...
Anybody want a mint?
Well, if you are tired, a little bedtime story for you...
The woman entered the room, and with a knowing smile
teasing her full lips, she sank into the comfort of the
plush chair in the corner. The handsome stranger turned,
having sensed her approach. Locking his steely gray
eyes on hers, he moved slowly toward her, his experienced
gaze measuring her, hypnotizing her with his soft murmurs
of assurance. He sank to his knees before her and without a
word, smoothly released her from her constraining attire.
With a sigh of surrender, she allowed his foreign hands to
unleash her bare flesh. He expertly guided her through
this tender, new territory, boldly taking her to heights she
had never dared to dream of, his movements deliberate,
confident in his ability to satisfy her every need.
Her senses swam. She was overcome with an aching desire
that had gone unfulfilled for so long. And, just as it seemed
that ecstasy was within her grasp, he paused, and for
one heart-stopping moment, she thought, "It's too big! -it will never fit!"
Then, with a sudden rush, it slid into place as if it had been
made only for her. As pleasure and contentment washed
over her, she met his steady gaze, tears of gratitude shining in her eyes.
And he knew it wouldn't be long before she returned.
Oh, yes, this woman would want more.
She would want to do it again and again and again............
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DON'T YA JUST LOVE SHOPPING FOR SHOES?
I wonder if she used the scale to beat him with, and then run over him with the car, just to make sure he got the point.
Too heavy for me--'scuse me for not wanting to weigh in on that one, 'cept to note that the wife got her pound of flesh.
AK
A husband found himself in big trouble when he forgot his wedding anniversary.
His wife angrily told him, "Tomorrow there better be something for me in the driveway that goes from 0 to 160 in five seconds or less."
The next morning the wife found a small package in the driveway.
She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.
Visiting hours for the husband at the hospital are limited due to the extent of his injuries.
The GED is the equivalent of a HS deploma.
xxx is in uncharted terriroty.
The secret place of terriers and rottweilers?
The PM was to respect your privacy, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for you, so here's the basic question:
I recollect you were in the Navy, and I'm going to assume it was during the Viet Nam war. If that's correct, then just why did you and your friends enlist at the particular time you did? You implied you were in college, then "volunteered".
Did the draft influence your decision?
This post also implies you were in Viet Nam. #msg-13410710
You said you volunteered, and implied it was during the Viet Nam era. #msg-13594536
I didn't state that as fact. Note the question mark.
You said you were a "volunteer" during the Viet Nam draft era? Care to explain why? Education? Travel? Training? Absolute committment to the reasons the U.S. was involved in Viet Nam? or because you knew you'd be drafted, at least you'd have your choice of service and assignment?
If this is too personal and you don't care to answer, that's O.K. too, but since you brought it up...
Can you hep me?
This is drawfese for something?