Bill's class on scanning...
that is coming up this weekend should be GREAT for those who
have not taken his class on it before. I review my cd every
chance that I have some spare time and might even try and make
time for this weekends class, just in case he has some new
ground to cover.
Anyone who has NOT taken his classes should put this Saturday's
class on their MUST DO list.
catman...ISYA

PS...this applies ESPECIALLY to anyone who plans to trade
through the summer. Things get REALLY tough over the summer
months in this market and if you want to TRADE...those scans
are a MUST HAVE. Personally, I don't expect to be around much
this summer, opting instead for more GAINFUL employment else
where. I was not really able to hold my head above water when
the market was "active" and with the dead months of summer
coming on, for my own preservation, I've decided to stop trading
until next fall or early next winter.
The summer is USUALLY a 'quiet' time anyway and with the all
the uncertainty of this country falling into the hands of the
communist next fall, I think this summer is going to be
ESPECIALLY bad. To be honest, the only reason that I jumped
into Bill's classes so hard was becuase of the historical
FACT that the last year in the term of EVERY prior President
since stocks began being traded on Wall Street has been a
bumper year for stocks...after the dismal performance of this
standing President I guess I should not have been surprised
that it's been the FIRST time in history that the market has
tanked.
GLTY you warriors who have the capital to hang tough with this
market place...following bill rules and you just MIGHT survive.

Thanks to bill and what I've learned from him...
I do ALL my own DD these days. Short cuts for our DD work was
one of the reasons that I came here to begin with. With that
said it just about eleminates any reason to be a subscriber
here at all...with the coolaid list the ONE possible excepting
and THAT list ANYONE can get for free !
Until the Administration starts appling the rules farly and
equally, this place will remain useless to honest traders
and invstors.
catman...ISYA

PS...I'm NOT pissed about being banned from any board...but..
when all I did was to try and cool off a guy that was OBVIOUS
breakin EVERY RULE on Ihub by using profanity and personal
attacks and I see that THIS person is STILL POSTING what's the
point of caring what happens on this website ? Like this
microcap market in general, it's a very corrupt place.
The bottom line is...the Board Administration at WNBD has been
shamelessly pumping this BIG NEWS that is coming in the FIRST
WEEK of APRIL every since early MARCH. It is NOW the middle
of MAY and no such news has APPEARED. The pps is now less
than .015, leaving the vast majoirty of people who invested
in that company TOTTALLY in the bag....I'd say that banning me
was just par for the way that MOST of these board are run.
Though Matt was unwilling to give me any kind of a refund for
the THREE YEARS subscription that I'm only 6 months into, I
have requested that he remove my name from the list of people
who DO subscribe. For whatever people may think of me, I'm an
honest person and REFUSE to have my name associated with this
kind of a web site where the flow of information is so
manipulated that it is useless to anyone trying to make an
informed, rational decission about their investments. You ONLY
get to read what the PUMPERS want you to read and everything
else is either deleted or banned out right.
Who wants information like that ?

My last word to Ihubs pitiful managemental team...

I am a subscriber who subed up for three years of Ihub when I thought that Ihub
was a fare and rule abiding place...my recent ban from the WNBD board after I was
personally attacked by another poster who, not just attacked me FIRST, but used
TOTALLY unappropreate language...I could accept that ban if I had attacked this
person back, but as my ONLY responce I appealed to their sense of humor and
spirit of good will...and at no time did I let their attacks reduce my post to
NONE TOPIC related post...and NOW I see that the PERSON THAT ATTACKED ME is STILL
posting and I have been banned for trying to not just stay on topic but keep the
IHUB board a friendly place ?????????
I'm NOT asking you to over rule the admistrator who banned me...I'm only requesting
that you withdraw my subscription and refund the balance for the next three years.
I'm very disappointed in the way that IHUB has choosen to selectively enforce rules
that only appear to apply to the hand picked few.
The judicial system has exonerated you from any legal repercutions from your total
lack of legal responsiblity for your actions but I will not forgive you for your
apparent TOTAL LACK of concern for any measure of Moral or Ethical flow of information
on your web site.
Please refund what ever portion of my subscription that you deem refundable...but...
to be quite honest, judging by the way that you have CHOOSEN to run your web site,
forgive me if I don't hold my breath in anticipation of ANY kind of response from
you....at all. Your actions speak volumes.
What is most regretable to me is what potential that you have squandered on your
fickle administration of what rules you CLAIM to cling to...
If you DO decide to keep ALL of my subscription...you are welcome to it...and I
will only be sorry for every having given you ANY measure of credibliltiy.
With all the new ground broken by bill and his work in his
private room...I'm saddened to see that he is unable to distance
himself from this website as a source of information flow...
BILLHUB...hahahahh...might be worth a shot.
I guess you can only break so much new ground at a time...?
As your apparent lack of concern for the very rules that you
profess to stand bye.
catman...ISYA

PS...You SUCK ! AHHAHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

Attention Mikey..the BIGXMAN...

I read THIS in the news today...thought of YOU instantly...

GREENVILLE, N.C. (May 8, 2008) ‹ An East Carolina University biologist
has brought his admiration of Neil Young to a whole new class.

Or species, to be exact.

Jason Bond, an ECU professor of biology, has named a newly discovered
trapdoor spider, Myrmekiaphila neilyoungi, after the legendary rock star.

³There are rather strict rules about how you name new species,² Bond
said. ³As long as these rules are followed you can give a new species
just about any name you please. With regards to Neil Young, I really
enjoy his music and have had a great appreciation of him as an activist
for peace and justice.²

In 2007, Bond discovered the new spider species in Jefferson Co., Ala,
and later co-wrote a paper with Norman I. Platnick, curator at the
American Museum of Natural History in New York, on the genus.

Bond received $750,000 in grants from the National Science Foundation in
2005 and 2006 to classify the trapdoor spider species and contribute to
the foundation¹s Tree of Life project. He is both a spider systematist ­
someone who studies organisms and how they are classified ­ and
taxonomist someone who classifies new species.

Spiders in the trapdoor genus are distinguished on the basis of
differences in genitalia, Bond said, from one species to the next. He
confirmed through the spider¹s DNA that the Myrmekiaphila neilyoungi is
an identifiable, separate species of spider within the trapdoor genus.

ZEOR VOLUME...
gee thanks...that clears it up for me !!!
I feel a LOT BETTER !!!!
catamn...iSYA

PS...AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH !
and ON NEWS AT THAT !!!

it was selling @ .235 on Fri....
sellin this am @ .21...that's DOWN in my book.
catman...ISYA

PS...OH..it's noon now and we are at even money.
HEY MAN...that's HUGE. Just like the HUGE NEWS
that we were supposed to get in the first week of...
______________________APRIL_______________ !!!


PSS..In case you haven't noticed...it's the first week
of ______________________MAY_________________ !!!
Ya can keep the beef...where's the NEWS ????
I'm sick of seein this fluff crap...show us the money
or let us go.

I'm a part of it...
I've been selling off for months...the last stock I
like this that I touched was ASII...BIG NEWS coming
THIS WEEK...end of week...where is that BIG NEWS...
Oh...I don't own that stock anymore.
catman...ISYA

PS...stick a fork in me...another retailer bites the dust.
Why bother when one in TWENTY stocks are NOT down 30%
the next day...they don't even try to HIDE their horseshit
anymore. I've had a gtc on TIDE @ a dime for weeks now.
This market is deand and it's almost SUMMER...lol.
Might look back in 2009 but before then we are all just
pissin in the wind down here in this microcap ceaspool.

Sell the news disease spreads to WNBD...
and sell it hard.
catman...ISYA

PS...even "good" companies are getting milked.
This market is dying and the goose's golden eggs
are soon to be a thing of the past.

PSS...FEAR...isn't it a beautiful thing...let's
see those TEENS AGAIN !!!!!!!

If you want to know what is wrong with the WHOLE
equity market in general all you have to do is hit
the street and ask the average joe what he thinks.
I'll bet you ALL of my penny stocks that 9 out
of 10 people will laugh in your face when you ask
them if they think the stock market is a far and
reasonable place to put their money....
mutual fund managers have exploted that fear for
years, especially through the 401k portfolios that
they manage...with the 401k's as close as MOST
people will ever get to out marketplace.
HOW, tell me, can this help US, the retail investor ?
My optimism is now at an all time low...and the
statistics show that to be true here in the microcap
markets.
Everyone has seen what is going on for yEARs now and
as long as they could make a quick buck off of the
corruption, why SHOULD they care...
but...
after YEARS of fraud and outright criminal activity
that have gone TOTALLY IGNORED by the SEC, the very
people entrusted to POLICE the system, statistics
are showing that the golden goose, though NOT completely
DEAD YET...the days of it's golden eggs are long gone.
SURE, professional's that you will find a plenty here
on IHUB are still able to milk a buck or two out of it
all but the retail investor is done.
Traders NEED the "worshiping investor" because when NO
ONE is willing to hold a stock over night, much less for
a quarter or two...the pps on ANY stock can only go DOWN.
NO retailer can short these micros so it only leaves a
market place FULL of GREEDY MM'S and CEO's who will flaunt
the laws BLATANTLY sucking every single penny that comes
into this market...from the baby boomers who have just about
spent all of their trust fund IRA'S now.
I'm personally left holding a fist full of stocks like TIDE
with nothing left in them but HOPE that SOME MIRACLE will
drive the pps high enough for me to get out at even money
on some day that I'm LUCKY enough to be home from the job
that I've had to go back to.

Before Rome burned, the Barbariens where at the gate...
if you can't hear them pounding pounding poundiong all
around the gates to this microcap market place then
you are STONE DEAF.

the sky is falling the sky is falling...
oh wait...it's only the SHARE PRICE !!!!
catman...ISYA

PS...I guess we need to get out and round up
a new batch of dreamers and wanna be worshipers ?

PSS...I no longer regret having sold shares at
.37...now...I only regret not having sold MORE !
On the other hand, with the court moving at a
SNAIL'S PACE on the legal end of this trade...
it's looking like the BETTER trade is these
monthy filings that they are not going to pay
thier royalties.
For some strange reason, this still seems to
bother some people enough to sell off when
ever they post these silly quartely things...
hummmm...when WILL that next filing BE ?

PSSS...better YET...let's get someone ELSE
inside the court system who has no grasp on
the workings of those courts to post erronious
TERROR POST that drive the price back down to
the teens. We can even let HIM make the call
so he can dump all of his shares FIRST.
I need some more of those .10 shares.

a scam by any other name is still a scam. eom.

excelent points to which I can only add...
that MOST of these shell companies ONLY exist for the
enrichment of managemet...PERIOD.
catman...ISYA

PS...AND FURTHERMORE...lol...I think that companies should
get just ONE SHOT at an R/S. To move to bigger board.
If they want to use that ONE R/S to elemenate all the
bogus shares they dumped on the retailers then FINE...
but should only get ONE SHOT AT IT. After that, it should
be like I learned how to swim. Ya don't swim...ya die.

and then they s8...
gotta love the way they treat us...
At least it was NOT at .025 !
catman...ISYA

PS...delusion AND cheap shares is just a twist of the
knife. NOT that they don't have enough blood on their
hands now...oh well. Ya swim with the sharks....

3/16 trades were makin me CRAZY...
I always wonder, when I ask a question that is met with
STONEY silence, one of two things...either it was SO
STUPID a question that no one wants to answer you...OR...
it's such a BRILIANTLY SMART question NOBODY knows the answer.
I guess this falls into the DUaaaa catagory. The "older"
traders coulda tipped me off though...pre digital.
3/16 is 3 divided by 16 = .1857.
OK OK...laugh at it if you want but like the pit bull for
knowlege that I am...and as Neil Young sez...
now...
EVERYBODY KNOWS, EVERYBODY KNOWS.
catman...ISYA

PS...I asked my trading desk "WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?" and he
said he thought it was messages from outter space !!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHHHA
Stuff like that is anyone's guess, I reckon.
Learn sumpin new EVERY DAY !!!

I'll see your slvo and raise you an ARRS. eom

.31/6 wtheck are those ???
If you covered that today in the room bill I'm sorry to
pester you again...I was so focused on watchin the LII
I had to shut paltalk off for the distraction...I saw
several of these trades go bye today ???
catman...ISYA

s-8...another proctology exam gone bad. eom

that depends on what KIND of movement...
you are talking about...
bowel, incorporating state, owners to Mexico with our
cash ?
IF you are talking about the PPS and you are a bean
counter, then you might want to try and calculate
how long it's going to take for all those warrants
issued @ a buffalo to wash out...it might be awhile
without any other significant news.
catman...ISYA

PS...investors tend to look at what OTHER investors
thought this is worth...those last batch of warrants
went for a buffalo. When every the price rises ABOVE
a buffalo...they make MONEY dumping those shares...
SUPPLY AND DEMAND baby...

TRANSLATE...into WHICH language...how about I reiterate
my reiterations...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
PS...you say "delution" is NOT effecting this pps...
but I can not agree...where are all these shares
coming from ? I'm not selling...are YOU ?
LOL..kinda.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
DO you thing this is RETAIL or NOT ?
catman...ISYA

PS...and do you think there is any significance in
the fact that MILLIONS of shares are hitting the
BID on a DAILY basis now ?

blue...is that a picture of what I'll look like if
I buy one of these machines ?
Not that I wanna look like a GIRL...but if I did...
I'd want to look like THAT GAL !
catman....ISYA

PS...I'm back in with my first buy now .0009 so I
can SAY post here again ! I've spread out my buys
down here between .0006 and .0009.
None of those test models who have been using the
bikes have DIED yet, or so I assume, so we still
have a REASONABLE chance that they will stop
DELUTING the living HELL out of this one before
we all go broke.

LOL..ya keep askin me that. retort it if you can EOM.

oH I don't know WHO...I just noticed that they
PAINTED the STRIP on that ONE TRADE...for
MONTHS we have traded @ .0001 and then...at the
END of the day they throw up a trade for 2k shares.
What is 2k share of a stock worth @ .0001 ?
Do the math...the trade was MEANINGLESS...but it
made it LOOK like an up day...they call that
"painting the stripe".
It's meaningless...but innerestin.
catman...ISYA

PS...this investment is gone. It's obvious
that he has dumped BILLIONS of shares on the
market and despite the fact that HE is making
money and the COMPANY is making money he, for
what every reason, has thrown us under the bus.
Once he get's profitable enough to suit him...
he'll either get bought out by a big board
company or he'll go private, either way we
get left out in the cold.
R/S is the only option that he has left no
matter what he ultimately decides what to
do.

I wish I could share your...up beat perspective...
from where I sit...the future is not so bright.
The pps is the ONLY true measure of a companies
worth...period.
Take for example CTKH...a GREAT company...making
TONS OF MONEY and management could CARE LESS about
the pps of the company OR for that matter the
health of their shareholders holdings....
Making GREAT MONEY for themselves and their
company, all the while IGNORING the pain being
felt by their shareholders.
It's a symbiotic realtionship and when "one isn't
giving, and one pretends to recieve" it's just
a matter of time before the one "pretending"
gets left out in the cold completely.
catman...ISYA

PS...you say "delution" is NOT effecting this pps...
but I can not agree...where are all these shares
coming from ? I'm not selling...are YOU ?
LOL..kinda.
What I mean is...for YEARS now we have traded under
100k shares per day and all of a sudden MILLIONS of
shares are being DUMPED on the market EVERY DAY ???
This kind of volume is NOT retail.
I'm TRYIN to look at this as a LONG term 'investment'
desperately wanting to justify holding on to this
HORRIBLE trade, be even those self delusional thoughts
are beening underminded by what is OBVIOUS to the
most casual observer...shares are hitting the market
at the bid in previously unheard of numbers.
Even the MOST optomistic person has to be feeling this
pain and KNOW what it means.
IF we were going to a BIGGER board, into a market that
attracts intitutional investing then it stands to reason
that they would want to drive the price UP as high as they
could get it BEFORE they R/S...they are NOT doing that...
from my experience, in THIS marketplace, they are getting
ready to cut out the "longs" and the shares that they
hold...
CAPITALIZATION is the name of the game...not management,
not GROWTH, not earnings....NONE of that matter when you
have weak fundamental capitalization.
AND...
if the capitalization WAS strong here...it would be
reflected in the share price.
We would have BUYERS...not SELLERS...sellers in MASSIVE
numbers I might add.
Sorry to be so negative here but I don't think it would be
fair for me to read all of this optomistic what if's and
maybe's without at least a LOOK at the downside to all of
this...worshiping.
Nothing would make me happier than to find out that I'm
wrong about all of this...hey...it's not to late for that
to happen.
Hope for the best...but be prepared for the worst because
judging from what I've seen in the last two weeks...
the light at the end of THIS tunnel is an oncoming run
away train.

I dunno either tom...but trdy sure reinforces my comtempt
for this entire marketplace...on the other hand...I've lost
twenty years of work that I've put into the realestate market
here on the gulf coast in the last three years so what the
hell.
I guess it's like Grace Slick once said...It don't mean sh*t
to a tree.
catman...ISYA

PS...and if I was a tree, I'm sure I'd feel MUCH better about
it all. Dead money really sucks...losing all hope that you
will see that dead money become BORN again is another matter
completely...my hope here is gone.
What else can be said about it ?

What a GREAT read...thx. eom.

Lighten up lexi...I wasn't attacking you ?
I'm afraid your humor is in need of repair.
It's to bad that you are so defensive. I was merely pointing
out how much your post sounded like the disclaimer on EVERY
pr that ever gets put out...
Unfortunately, that's the whole problem with TIDE...all we
have are maybes and what ifs. If they don't get on the ball
soon there will be nothing left of this company or any of
our INVESTMENTS !
catman...ISYA

PS...OH...I just remembered, you have me on IGNORE ! LOL...
so you won't be reading this, but if it makes and difference
to you, I'd PREFER that you KEEP me on ignore. Until you
fix your broken sense of humor, I rather you didn't READ
ANY of my post...I don't have time for babies who can't take
a joke.

2k fill is hardly the kind of run that we deserve. eom.

OK..when I'm back in somewhere in the 000's.eom

well tx...
If it goes to 000's again...I'm loading the boat.
Might make enough this next time around to buy one
for myOWNself !
Right now I have 16,000 sq.ft. of garden to weed and
I just picked up 600 sweet potatoes that are longing
for the soil so I'll bid you all...adue.
catman...ISYA

PS...and not a BEAN plant ONE !!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
To darned much trouble for what ya get...PEAS on the
other hand...WE GOT PEAS !

PSS...if ya eat right ya don't NEED no lazer beams on
your flabby legs !!!!
LOL !!!!

PSSS...I DO drink a LOT of BEER though...do they make
one I can wear like an empty barrel...suspenders and
all...so I can still pick peas.

hahhahahahahahhahha eom

OH balls..did I fall for that agian..LOL !!! eom

the one they just filed at 15:14 pm. eom

CELUBIKE !
I mean...come on ya guys...aren't ya just a LITTLE bit
embrased to say ya made money on this one.
"It just MELTS away the pounds ! THINK of the MONEY you
WILL MAKE !!!!"
LOL.
catman...ISYA

PS...Who knows, those Califonieans might just buy it.

PSS...on the other hand, with all the food shortages we
may all be back to sweating it off in the bean fields again
before we know it !

Has anyone called the company about this regdex ?eom

NICE PAINT JOB...0002, best laugh in WEEKS ! eom

couldawouldashoulda...NEVER works. LOL eom.

Any clues as to what this trade was about...
0.0015...2050000...13:13 OTCbb
Sure wish that _I_ could have got in on THAT DEAL !
catman...ISYA

PS...created a huge fat finger, but, one could now
claim there are NO GAPS to fill...it posted today ????

Trading 101: Weird Trades...
Bill, what was that print on VDTI just now 13:13 @.0015 for
2,050,000 all about...
AND..what does it mean ?
catman...ISYA

PS...it sure did NOT look like a fat finger ???
(the fat fingers that I've seen are decimal errors)

well...technically speaking...
it's Ps. or so I'm told...for Post-script.
In mY case it means PS like ya do when you try to get
someone's attention quietly...when they don't hear you
ya have to do it again...PSS and so forth and so on
until I start to run out of breath and it becomes...
PSSSSsssss.
After all...I'm only capable of so many attempts at
enlightenmenting before I get bored and change the
thread.
catman...ISYA

PS...just so we are clear on that MInor point.

Your pretty funny tom...
Until I realized how INSANE it was NOT to sell at the ask, I
was losing money hand over fist in this market.
catman...ISYA

PS...don't get me wrong...I STILL lose money hand of fist
but it's at a MUCH SLOW RATE NOW !!! LOL

PSS...I don't think anyone can say for sure why those kind of
trades come in...is it really just someone getting a partial
fill as it was to finish off a MUCH larger trade, or was it
market makers walking the price down to shake out weak hands,
or or or...we can only speculate.
From where I see it...if you don't sit on the bids WAY below
where you think you will EVER get a 'good' deal on the stock
and then save a few for the HIGHER THAN AS HIGH as you ever
thought you'd see then it's very hard to stay ahead of the
game here.
BUT THEN...if you are an "investor" looking out into the
future two or three years then ANY price is a GOOD price
because you are not even going to CONSIDER selling until
you have met your target price or TIME factor.
No matter how you look at our little pet here..it's been
a VERY tough to row for EVERYONE conserned so far.
My GTC's are in the 000's now so all I can do is just like
you...wait and see.
We are as STUCK on the reef as you can get RIGHT NOW...what
else can we do. Ya jump ship at this point and you can only
LOSE everything.
GLTusALL !