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Crow! I am acquainted with MP's illustrious backround, though I just can't see him jumpin' outta planes into Nam ! Whatever.
It is his family and educational backround which makes him Such a hypocrite. One would think he could have done well financialy with out having to be a scamming thief.
With JB.. we know more of what we got upfront. ILMD..Jenn
hmm... JB may be tainted...but I think MP takes the BIG prize for his most cynical self-righteous hypocrisy. Your "respectable" MP Probably swindled more $ than JB dreamed of.
BTW... remember, MP stopped R&D to keep "his" money from being spent there. JB at least got more sales than MP ever did...while we paid MP for several overseas adventures....which may have contributed to JB's sale in the Middle East.. maybe its only benefit. From MP's POV... an unintended consequence... after all, in his business plan the alleged hardware and software were only touted in order to sell stock to PPers and perhaps.. a 2d gain of boosting the PPS. Not important to actually have efficient devices for sale... only important to have it appear so.
ILMD Jenn
Duh.. smells like a POS... no trading worthy of mention for many days. Not even P&D in camo !!!! Just dead.
Commments welcome ! Jenn
RBIZ has not been showing the volume one would expect of a stock being promoted actively. Yesterday, I bought an odd number of shares and was discouraged to find it the only trade of the day other than a routine mgt or MM trade. Looking like a P&D...but the P ain't working (yet ?).
Comments ?
Jenn
RE: ".... invitation from foreign government" ??? if real.. probably China or another SE Asia country. If China..probably should be avoided... several innovative co's did so in the past and were destroyed.. most recent I know of.. in BK 7, ENER...early solar panel tech.
Players need to be very careful here ! A letter of intent .. esp with lotsa jargon is a common device in P&D . Especially after a manipulated drop in the pps... for obvious reasons ! The letter may be real, but not the intent. Its like P&D mgf companies proclaiming their agreements with distributors(world wide no less) when they produce nothing but PR's and stock !
Play their game so long as you are aware of this kind of BS & pps manipulation AND if yr broker allows shorting this POS.
Jenn
Great News ? significant changes in product supply and demand IE: trading opprotunities ! Product... stock.
BTW Schwab refused to let me sell short. I am NOT long.
Jenn
Huge volume Yes !! BUT in what direction ? Still nothing substantive on which to build.
Jenn
so far this firm shows all the signs of a poorly run P&D.. or one that has exhausted its attaction capital. These people don't even know how to prime the pump again! The PR's are not sufficiently detailed... just more predictable blabla bla . Eventualy THe pps may "woosh" to a point where most public stockholders might recoup 50% of their investment ! Can only assume the burn is feathering some nests while BK lurks nearby.
Really... since this firm traded at 15-25 times its current pps, the price of silver has gone "woosh" ! Granted that lode properties & producer's pps don't match the metal mkt <, but they do follow it. One would think that investment and consequent material progress would have occured for SFMI in such a climate. But the reverse seems to have occured.
All JMHO. Critic .. any response welcome !!!
Jenn
The comparison dialogue was a methodologically interesting and enlightening discussion, just , IMHO, misapplied. Apple has had product & revenues even during its bad times. KBLB has not.... yet.
Agreed, time is important. Lack of news and perhaps more noteworthy... lack of PPS < during recent big market boost when lotsa "new" money was entering the market.
Hanginin- Jenn
Carbonita: Thanks ! My apologies to you and to USGT . Very nice site indeed. Great promotional piece, still, little substance.
Jenn
Hmmmm ? All this babble comparing Apples and Lemons is getting us nowhere. We have a cheap bet here which will depreciate further if there is not some decent news soon. Maybe Notre Dame could say a novena... whatever.
Jenn
This is a classic P&D PR ! Common among penny stocks. Considering that USGT has no website, does have more than one firm touting it with unsolicited spam as well absurd "research analyses"..ie: well disguised horse waste material. Also.. no data available on either insider ownership nor institutional investment. All of this adds up to P&D.
It is possible USGT will buy some property.. if they can get financing. But the point of the great news is simply to push the stock pps and invite pp investment. Now.. any big financing will require even more dilution on terms very favorable to the investors. If an acquisition actually occurs, development will take more investment and more dilution.
So current public investors will find their current pps diluted to about 1:800-1000 followed by a reverse split !
So.. it may be useful to pick a price that gets you out fairly soon.. hopefully at a profit.The risk tolerant might sell short too when we see a good pop !
If USGT ever does become a firm which has a product other than its stock.. you can always invest in it and then go play in Vegas where some would say.. the odds are better .
WADR.... Jenn
Hmmm, well, I dunno...despite all the encouragement on this board. PPS goes on > .But see no better reason to buy more now than there was couple months ago when I did buy more ! Lack of substantive info after all this time begs too many questions.
I did not expect a miraculous <, just hangingin 'cause am so far down, no point in selling. Probably have a lot of company ?
Jenn
TO All: For the usual unknown reasons.. several of my posts here were deleted.
The most recent suggested that the greatest negative noise here may well come from the "shorts"! IMHO They should quietly fold their CDEX tents and go find another scamming penny stock showing NO evidence of going straight ! Make their noise there.
My last remaining message states my view/expectations of recent news.
ILMD:???????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
Crow..PS: I do not expect any spectacular pps<. CDEX is too burdened by its lousy history. Prudence requires caution before buying into it. Clearly.. CDEX is not ripe for a P&D.
If we see reasonably detailed domestic sales, esp to end-users, then we should see some action.
ILMD???????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
ES 1 et al: Well, my email to mgt was not at all hostile, although I did complain of the bad address for investor info. which needs correction. Leaving it bad is bad business.
Otherwise, I do not see where scheduled participation in public events would not be on the company website. We as stockholders might want to attend or know someone in the field to direct them to Kraig's booth or presentation.
I feel strongly that our co needs increasing exposure as our product(s) approach marketability... by liscence or direct mgf.
Also, since we view law enforcement and mililtary apps in our market array.. I wonder if R&D grants from DOD and /or other gvt agencies have been sought or are in the works ???? .
Any thoughts anyone ? Jenn
Peach: I guess you are right ! I sent mgt an E-mail asking about that or any conference/show etc. No response ! Because I found their e-mail address for investor information is non-funtional ! Undeliverable ! How about that ! SMELLING MORE AND MORE LIKE A SCAM !
Regrettably, Jenn
Does KBLB plan exhibit/presentation @ IFAI Expo 11/7-9 Boston? seems usefull to do so ! That is where new stuff in textiles are shown/discussed etc. Jenn
d4diddy: Duh... MP raN CDEX like his perso nal ma/pa store. He was mgt,(period) with his personal agenda.. see below.
Jenn
Of course the problem with CDEX was tghe personal agenda of MP.h had little to do with generating an actual useful and marketable product ! Only the hype of such a product and enough prototype to max the hype. Then the BK gambit to grab the patents and/or any "new " cash JB might have in the wings.
It has all been because of the personal GREED of that bible thumping hypocrite.. has been all along.
He should go to his ministry in Brazil and be eaten alive by what ever critter or human that can stand the taste of MP's corrupt flesh. (Seriously -Not hyperbole).
Jenn
es1: Nice explanation.. thanks for the clarity. Hanginin om our spiders futures !
Jenn
If indeed, JB /CDEX does have a decent product...The plan is to lease the most recent version to hospitals/clinics/pharma on a ppu basis with a minimum time period and use.
NOT to sell the units.
Hopefully, we'll soon know if CDEX has such a product and a market for it. If so, I don't expect any significant revenue in the 1st several months after actual placement.
hanginin, Jenn
Nice for Utah and the pr person who arranged it..BUT wo & behold the stockholders !
duh. Jenn
Dear Paige,..thanks so much for yr posts and links ! Gosh.. it great to see anything from CDEX..and those clips looks just fine.. but the proof , of course, will be in the sales.
Last I knew the G-4 would not be sold but leased on .. maybe a 3 yr contract with minimal # of ppu fees in that period.
Couple more weeks we should see the last Qtr/Annual filed. Most curious about that.. I have no great expectations for it but???? !
Otherwise.. best to you and your loved ones for 2012...may it be a better year for all of you..won't take much to improve on 2011 !
Have yet to make to Vegas again.. but will let you know when .
Jenn in Bawlmer
hohohohoho ! IOL???????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
dado: lack of pr's(esp sensational but vague ones) helps support absence of P&D agenda ! Just hanginin.
Jenn
crow: Though yr vision may be OK.. yr extreme negative bias tilts it with yr massive hyperbole ! IT is bethetic !
More than my mild positive position.
1)Please note that I have well established here and elsewhere that I was indeed too gullable and was scammmed by CDEX . So why do you repetitiously minimize my humble statements to that effect ? If you observe that "only" once did I confess... I disagree. However... I see no need (unlike you)to be so redundant in that or many other matters.
Yes.. I am redundant when it comes to responding to yr redundant preaching of damnation and doom. You seem to miss the point of my signature(redundant) IOL????????????????????Jenn !
2) I do believe I(or my progeny) colud get more out of CDEX than if I sold out now. Maybe only a few cents pps more... or a bix tax loss ! It is my choice to make .. since there remains not that much more to loose on it. I may be wrong.
ARE YOU EVER WRONG to make that kind of deceision ?
3) Where is your DD ? Yr extreme comments about Stevenson are not backed by any DD shared by you... just guilt by association.
NOT good enough ! Have you established the names and firms that have converted CDEX $ obligations to stock and taken on additional mgf responsibility with the new mgt . Am sure your opinion is that they have been scammed again. That is possible..but they may be making the best of poor choices. Certainly you condemn their decision. Look em up so you can add them by name to yr rehtorical static.
That is yr opinion about everything related to CDEX and its public and corporate investors.. past, present and future.
4) I continue to wonder why you are so adamant about CDEX as if you believe it is the worst only scamming penny stock in existance deserving of yr attention ?
If you are on a crusade against scamsters... why not spread yr claws to engage so may others that deserve at least equal attention .. many are not pennys either.. there are some BIG names out there really deserving of yr attention.
Why so very much attention to CDEX if you are trying to save investors from hypocracy, deceit etc. Or is it only in yr agenda to humiliate people.. including those who agree they have been scammed ?
Heck, furthermore, there are many elected public figures who are deserving of such attention.. both those who have scammed their consituents while selling their votes to lobbys and and those who have been scammed by their leadership !.. and don't realize it, or if they do, never ever admit same !
Just don't do it on a STOCK board. AND keep in mind.. such public figures are fair game. You can even persist in distortion and borderline proof of mere opinion with impunity !
So.. re: Jenn & CDEX... if you don't like my mildly positive.. with reservations... postings here or elsewhere.. then simply state yr disagreement and forget the repetative rhetoric !
Turn yr need for ventilation elsewhere. There are many many other matters much more deserving of yr need to disgorge you bile.
And now back to NPR and the opera.
WADR(not much of that) IOL???????????????????????????????????Jenn
Crow:yr message was previously stated. Still carries a strong efluvia of tedious redundancy less any pretense of humor.
Yes ...as I also previously said.. I did invest too much and CDEX/Loch ,esp with MP's slick, has been a scam on a real tech potential which was denied development !
So.. agreed .. as I previously stated..I have little choice , but to hang in.. in hope of getting more out than I could right now.
So..just having been redundant myself.. lets just letitgo !
Yr repetitious badgering only reveals that you have nothing better to do with yr time. .. and discourages anyone from attending to your posts.. even whaen they might be worthy !
BTW.. if you do not have a phone to call Stevenson... you can adapt yr computer easily... try skype ! Any kid can show you how to do that.
Have a jolly Halloween.
IOL????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
Buzz: Agreed, Crow can be amusing...once or twice... but the putdowns have become so redundant as to loose their humor. ..blunting the point with tedious overkill.
Like this stuff about the tri- annual SH mtg..is so old ..been posting the SOS since August!
JMHO...IOL??????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
capn: YES!! and a big Amen to that !IOL?????????????????Jenn
Crow: JB's size ??? Heck... he can't hold a candle to Christi ! Now that NJ Gov and maybe GOP candidate is of Sumo quality !
LOL IOL???????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
CROW:YES!That's the one...."Tammy"(Not Tami) AKA Debbie Reynolds
A real 'ole deep south'n gal from the swamps somewhere down thar ?
Thanks for the clarification !
IOL ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
Crow.. you're right ! Tami is correct. I once knew a girl..in the 30's(1930's that is) named Tamara Holtz... her nick name was Tami. Not Tama. Then came Debbie Reynolds as "Tami's in love"
LOL
IOL????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
Solar pumps indeed were and continue to be marketed.. but I don't think LOCH/H had anything much to do with them. LH did sell some stock on that good idea...even allegedly sold a few actual devices in the south....
BUT.. shortly after their "pump" of the pump... there was a BIG power failiure in CA !!!! Solar pumps were needed to maintain irregation there....especialy usefull where a farm had a pond or other local source... duh...a..
LH sold none then,or if they had any and sold them there.. it was a hidden unreported source of cash for those inonit ! Other firms did sell a lot during the CA power crisis.
Currently.. as I've previouslu stated.. I do think G-4 is real and is likely to become manufactured if/when CDEX can show some orders to parts suppliers ! Budget wise.. for potential buyers..this period is simply awful !
Last I under stood... the G-4 will be leased for no less than a 3yr contract based on a structured ppu agreement. .. not sold.
I do think current mgt and BOD are better for stockholders than ANY in the past.
BTW, Foglesong was on the BOD ..under MP as I under stand it,only because JB..as a major investor got MP to appoint him. That didn't last long. He left. Wonder why ?
He is back on the BOD, why not !
I can state with confidence that Gen Foglesong is a very good man both in related experience and education . Furthermore, he has a reputation for honesty. This via my personal communication from some who served with him in the AF.. who have had nothing to do with CDEX. He is described as a "straight arrow" !
I do wish CDEX would update/or get rid of that ancient and misleading web site !
Dare not refer anyone to it ! Counterproductive !!!
a'int hold'n mah breath, but have hope.
IOL??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jen
RE: stock obtained via terms of the"oncology rights" termination: since the original agreement occured in AUG 2010,
the restricted period may be over. The original terms allow for CDEX to terminate upon payment in shares . Therefore Holding period.. since the money was paid for these shares over a year aso.. might be considered..passed. Dunno.. but I think so.
IOL???????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
Penn: thanks for the detailed clarification. Seems like some posters here take "spin" lessons from Doonesbury !
Then,, there are the Boys and the BOYZ !
IOL?????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
RE: If memory serves me... the LOCH MB originated in Tx.. went to a "Christian" College there...and participated with other Boyz.. I think also from the same school...in a diff scam before the team exploited LOCH. Suspect the RB mentioned is the TX one and is still there. Remember.. the BOYZ phone and an office was in TX.
They rarely answered.
IOL????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
CROW: Yes, do take a rest ! Probably nothing of interest will appear before the next Q filing... and it may have little.
As to the notion that the tech etc would have been snapped up by some big co... if it was worthwhile....it could still happen...could be someone out there or in there is pushing for BK so the assets(patents) can be obtained for cheap !
JMHO...IOL????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn
CROW: Thanks for yr correction ! As to "cool" ask yr grand kids.
It means.. like OK.. thats great..it works.. snazzy.
IOL??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Jenn