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Looks like that Global Lock pretty much ended this thing. A whole 328,000 listed for volume in Sept. Even at a whole .0001, that's only about $30.
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=BEHL&SortBy=volume&Month=9-1-2012&IMAGE1.x=25&IMAGE1.y=4
Maybe they will back off next week, and let it breath a little. Whenever they (debt holders) do that, the volume just drops to practically nothing and I would assume they will be back and they are not done. How long will they go on with back and forth is anyone's guess. They'll be done when they get all of their money I suppose.
One thing the company could do that would go a long way in capital preservation and investor interest is to have the next financials audited and moving to being an SEC filer. That is of course doing it and not just talking about it. That would be better than any promotion or pump. The company can't do anything about the previous debt sellers, but being a real SEC audited filer or at least having a 8k or something out with statement of a reputable CPA firm on their books and filing the necessary forms would go a long way in market confidence and/or interest.
That's life in the pinks. We know that the numbers in the share structure just can't remain the way they are. CCAJ will do something to change them. And it's going to be real difficult to say the least to have positive results for shareholders. Could be a Pump here or there and some trading ops, but it's pretty obvious they have to do something with the share structure. Just the nature of the beast.
The debt is being sold, how low will they take it is anyones guess. At pennies on the dollar for their cost, doesn't leave much for the rest of us to get in on any action. Especially with the lack of any consistent volume (retail interest).
I was going to include a RS in my noting of the maxed out share structure. Definitely was thinking it, just didn't write it down. The AS isn't terribly large for this pps, so it definitely isn't unheard of to increase to say 5 B before a RS. Both are possible, neither is very good, but that is the position I'm looking at right now. And like we've both said, the support just isn't there.
Product, no product, got to go on what I see is happening in front of me.
Looks like crap to me, but to each their own on interpretations. But that chart was a daily and not a 60 minute. Good luck.
Well I sold out at break even. Just a little chump change green. 6', 5's, 4's just went for NO LOSS. When I saw high volume (for CCAJ comparative) and nothing but debt selling, maxing AS, it just didn't look good for me. I don't care if it's dilution, shorts, retail, insiders, it just isn't having the strength to support the selling. I take for granted there is always some wash trading, and it might go to the moon without me. But I'll just sit and watch, if something comes about, I have no problem buying back in at higher and probably lower if any action looks good to me.
Right now, it doesn't.
That's because the whole "short theory" on CCAJ is insanity. It makes no sense at all. LOL The only way it could make sense is with really bad toxic financing and the insiders who have shares coming in the future could short knowing full well they would have some shares backing them up to cover and the pps would be a lot lower.
Of course that's some pretty evil doings, but I guess one could use that theory for some "shorts".
If you call Pacific Stock Transfer at (702) 361-3033 (I did)
They will tell you:
2,350,000,000 shares authorized
2,284,739,050 shares issued
1,690,836,476 shares restricted.
Looks like for the next round of financing, the AS needs to go up a bit. Any bets on the numbers with how much? I wonder if they will even wait to get through the current debt before they do it?
There needs to be documented proof that it is in fact not globally locked. In fact you need to see proof that something is, not isn't with these pinks and even all stocks. Something printed on some lawyers web page is not proof. It was an attorney that got criminally charged and convicted for fraud (lying) about IPWG.
There isn't any documentation coming from the company. The company hasn't filed any financials or any other legal doc or even a PR. Why has their company status now been revoked in the state that they do business?. They haven't even filed the simple, cheap, and basic annuals with that state since Jan 2011.
Call your broker and try to get past the low level helper that answers phones and see if you can get any documentation from them. There is now no record that there is even any "company" doing business, so I doubt that you could get very far with getting IPWG to give you some documentation. But if valid, you should be able to call them up, connect with them and have them fax or email a copy of documentation from the DTCC for any removal of lock. Do they even answer the phone? Is the phone even connected anymore? It's nothing to keep up a phone number with some answering on it. Getting back to you with the required documentation will be a big deal though I'm sure.
One doesn't prove a negative, that's just the scams that these criminals prey upon. Put out all sorts of dubious statements without anything to back them up. Leaving nothing but "HOPE" left in the pockets of believers and naive. A little common sense will tell one that the proof that there is nothing, is in fact nothing there to see.
The bottom line is you can't get your money for shares, there is NO BID, and the documents that can be obtained just show there is nothing but issues with the shares involved with IPWG and criminals behind bars, criminal charges continuing to be placed. The documents show (I gave you the link), they are no longer in business. The last financial, bogus as it was, was for 2010. It is just a dirty shell with not much ability to sell it to the next sham. If they did, it sure wouldn't be for any benefit for any current normal shareholder.
I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but don't sit there and think you have some half full glass of water. It does stink to be naive, so don't be. We've all been there, we've all gotten screwed at some point or another in our lives by being naive. Just have to learn from one's mistakes and look for another glass and now using what you've learned, get some better water and better glass, and drink the good top half and throw the bottom drool away before it throws you.
Don't look to one bs webpage that tries to give you HOPE with no documentation to back up what they are saying and disregard five other sites documented information (IE; SEC, Federal website, DTCC, State SOS, financials or lack thereof, etc). And don't ignore common sense.
Quite the "dine and dash" too. All that volume and except for the last t-trade of 7500 shares, it ended down about 7%.
Now I see what you were talking about, the "Stock" was a poster not a stock. LOL
I think it's bs and much like Tom Allinder, just full of it. I can't see where IPWG has removed the Global Lock. Where is there any proof that they have. The only thing I see is revocation from Florida and more fraud connected to the company. Still shows being a Global Locked ticker. Still NO BID and very sparse volume here and there.
Florida State revocation
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=78848971
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=78911070
Maybe they can be like MIKP, just be suspended by the SEC if they can manage a unlock by the DTCC. But they haven't even got any filings (even bogus ones) for years now, the shell is dead IMO. And like I said, there is so much criminal activity attached to the shares of that ticker, if it ever did get trading again, it would just catch more criminals due to the ticker has got such a stack of files held by the FBI, SEC, Justice Departments, DTCC, etc, etc with it.
That's the problem with most of these stink pinks that have been chilled or locked, they have too much dubious and criminal "financing" attached to the shares to withstand any "A game" with the DTCC and only will bring on more criminal proceedings and suspensions by the SEC and other legal authorities.
Not sure what your asking on that first sentence. But on IPWG, nothing has come of it (nothing good for it's shareholders or that particular "company" or stock coming back). As I stated back then, the DTCC was just going through it's planned processes, and just has continued to do so. Only a very small handful has come back from restrictions, IPWG not one of them. They are a dead shell with still open investigations from so many federal authorities with insiders involved in that stock (FBI, Justice Department's, Fraud Task Forces, the Postal Department, and the SEC to name what I can remember off the top of my head).
I stated back then that the investigations weren't closed, and now since then more has come out (IE Fairhills Capitol's fraud involvement) There was already an attorney that got sentenced for wire fraud with IPWG, a couple of other dirty shell stocks involved, a TA nailed, and other accomplices with one still being a fugitive from justice fleeing the country and wanted by the FBI.
The shell is a Globally Locked piece of junk, not worth crud to sell to the next pump. If it ever did try to bring it's necessary "A game" to the DTCC to get back in on good graces to prove that it's shares are all on the up and up, I highly doubt it could do it considering all the criminals that have been involved with its shares. And it would just nail more nails in it's coffin and others of course. The DTCC works closely with the SEC and I'm sure compares notes.
Why IPWG hasn't even bothered to keep up it's virtual office in Florida and last week the company got revoked by Florida State for lack of annual reports. It probably owes taxes or monies to Delaware too. Has been a NO BID Locked ticker with no real business for some time now. I believe the ticker will just go to the wayside with all the other dirty dead ones at some point. After all the Federal files get done with it.
[i]JBSLIVER what your take on the post by stock on 9/20??? If I recall at the time ipwg was awarded a fair hearing by the sec you were strong on the IPWG mb that nothing would come from it. Do you think that they were able to get the lock lifted?
Mistakes happen that's for sure, given KCG's latest. But I believe TD corrected pretty quickly and is again back adhering to their policies regarding any stocks with DTCC issues. Is there any tickers now that they let one enter that have DTCC issues?
I was only aware of TD allowing one to exit a restricted stock, but no entering a position. TD is pretty strict with their policies regarding DTCC restricted stocks, something I like about them.
Yea, I think the old rinse and repeat is over for this shell. Once the DTCC puts the thumb on them, it pretty much ruins it for another round and of course extremly limits the continuence of the current scam. But they pretty much made their money and on to the next gold mine and shearing of sheep. Hopefully the hundreds of tickers like CRWV that the SEC has come down on will turn into thousands and that will curb the flocks somewhat.
I noticed that the CEO name is listed as Micheal Burton which was a name to someone that never materialized and is theorized that it was just that, a imaginary person. The CEO of this debunked company was Dennis Fisher, and that was an assumed named (stolen from a dead child) by a criminal wanted in Canada who assumed that name running from the law.
An imaginary person was placed on the shell who was supposed to be a "turn around expert" but alas no one ever materialized (nor did any "turn around", except for the shaft to shareholders mostly done by another board site and promoter doing lies and mayhem to the believers in their shenanigans).
This was of course after the end of the company with eviction from their office and a big mess left for the owners of the property rented to clean up.
There is also the ones who went for the hype and bought at the top from the promoters and are new here. I'm sure there are many that are down 30 to almost 50% holding. There isn't enough volume to even talk about in any pps range at this point. Probably won't be much for another month or more (given the speed that the company is working here). A few posters expressing their thoughts on how low the pps might go is not going to affect anything. It will do what it does no matter.
No feelings got hurt and the promoters just made money hyping it up around the boards and selling at a tidy profit. Whether or not the company wanted to take any promotion offer up, it was just business as usual and the profits were taken and a thousand other pinks to move onto, no problem for any promotion group (they always dump to the followers).
But there is always the possibilities of lower pps and one either gets ready for it, plays it for a slow game, waits, or gets out or leaves it alone. This is pinky land and their is no saving grace for any of it, all can be lost and anyone has to have the ability to play it for what it is, the time it will take to do it, and have a plan ahead of time knowing how much loss they are willing to take with CCAJ, not just visions of how much profit before they sell.
That's what happens to Global locked No Bid tickers. Most can't trade or transfer anything. Unless the ticker is wiped cleaned for zero dollars by your broker, some empty letters/numbers will remain in your account forever (or for quite some time) as a constant reminder of what not to do in the market.
There is no company, hasn't been for some time, and will never be again. Nobody to contact, at least nobody worth to contact. Lowlife like Pawson, lying promoter faux vw's, and the gang behind them? Those type of "contacts" haven't worked out so well. Hopefully the criminal charges will contend with all and any "contacts". But even though getting better, the sad fact is that way too many these criminals just move on to the next scam and bunch of marks. They are running into less marks (or marks with less money), more SEC, DTCC, and other authorities, so maybe there is some hope.
BEHL is a done though.
Having product may not necessarily be any saving grace down in pinky land, most can remember sponges in Walgreens and Walmart, and of course little medicinal tooters and sport drinks that are just scams to enrich the shell owners. But the 16 year existing selling product, and all the places that they have sold it to or in is pretty rare.
Hopefully the company will actually use a shell for it's real theoretical purpose instead of just pinky bs, be an SEC filer, and move on up in a real public market. They have an opportunity and might just be a chance here.
Just to add a little correction. Instead of just posting this board up, they were posting many boards up. Just confirming a very old fact, when every Tom, Dick, and Mary promoter is posting away at max trying to get their "followers" to buy, that is when they are selling and kudos to the ones who took advantage of that and got rid of some.
Bought some, sold some, bought some again. Looks like my 4, 5, and six's are pretty good now. Still have my .0027 down low on a bid (was tired of even numbers LOL). May never get there though, but just in case.
Getting a whole bunch of excitement over that. LOL Wonder how many "Synergy" names that makes in the US now. How original.
"Stick around you'll figure it out. Smart players know exactly what's going on...guess I'll average down in a day or so. Looking for .002-.003 range. Mark this post I'll look like a true prophet."
I don't believe in true prophets, but I do believe in the axioms. I have even quoted and passed them around from time to time over the years.
My low bids took at six and five that I left over the long holiday I indulged in, lucky for me, I kept the amounts really conservative for obviously they are no longer "low". And if the supports keep breaking, those 2's or 3's are definitely possible and have some bids in that low for accumulation purposes. But as we know here in pinky land, it's possible to turn up at any time no matter what the indicators are and even possible to crash on some cement below also. Wish this thing could keep up some more volume and wouldn't matter for some good daily trading, given that "wishing" or "hoping" is not part of any axioms.
Given the newness of the public part of the company and shell structure though, there should be some good odds that it will get over the penny at some point, they are just super slow it seems doing it is what they are doing. That may be good or bad depending on one's position. One can only play accordingly or don't play at all I guess.
More than likely the 750k went for below the .0001, they just show up as the trips. But this is where stocks that are Globally Locked end up doing. THRA just becoming history that will be forgotten by most in the future.
Didn't mean to ignore you (not that I have any problem in ignoring anyone in particular when I choose), but I was out for a long weekend. BEHL might very well "trade" at certain points, but as I said relative to the 15 Billion share structure and a NO BID status, it's won't be anything worth talking about in a realm of any real market seriousness. It hasn't even "traded" at .0002 for about a year now, and has diminished overall in dollar volume since the first "chill" by the DTCC (now a Global Lock). And soon to be nothing with the position that the DTCC and the SEC has now put it in.
All anyone is left with now is some misplaced "hope" that they can "maybe" get rid of any amount of shares for some worth with some "pump/promotion" (in my book of reality, .0001 and BELOW is NO WORTH). BEHL has too much low life with shares to get rid of, and as you stated "messed up in many ways", that even if there was a so called "pump" (which I highly doubt now given the DTCC Lock), it won't allow any decent folk much chance in getting even the .0001. It has gone for lower than that (.0000x) in the last few months and only shown up as trip 1's to most.
My interest is purely that, only a certain kind of interest. It is a fallacy belief that someone has to have financial interest in some POS stock in order to talk about it. I made pretty good money on this ticker, but haven't owned anything since .008 when I was swinging between that and about .017, but then they just diluted the pig to all ends, charts broke down, and I exited my positions. The only exception to that was one group of trades in 24 hrs when they lied about the BNPD deal and scammed more bag holders in which I made a tidy profit. And of course about a week or so of trading in the now SEC defunct PSC bs many years ago. Not every trade a winner for sure, but overall pretty good profit.
I have however noted the scum bag, low life, nothing but scamming fraudulent lying criminal promoter and the low life lying people who backed him up and were accessories to the fleecing of the public BEHL shareholders and criminal activity at the "other site". The particular management of that site knew full well of their actions and the actions of the promoter that they allowed to do the fleecing, scamming, and lying to others along with doing their own similar actions in which I am talking about with BEHL (and likely other POS pinks).
As you know, I have not even attempted to pull my punches in exposing BEHL and those in which I have included for what they were doing. Pretty much everything that I (and BB) have stated that would happen with this ticker and did happen is now proven FACTS.
My "gain" as you called it has been all pretty positive (even though that positive nature has included financial losses of some, but those losses are not of my doing). All of the "gain" that has been accomplished in the last couple of years since my exit (with the one exception of the BNPD scam when I traded some BEHL within 24hrs) has not had to do with any dollars or any financial gain in my pocket. Just other intangible processes towards a better market as a whole that BEHL has been a part of. Even though I admit it's quite minuscule in the overall picture, but I'm in the positive school of thought that it will add up as more and more of it happens along with the changing environment created by the DTCC and SEC.
BEHL will not be coming back. "Hope" in BEHL (or any other stock) is not a market strategy that will become to any positive trading, investing, or financial theorem. This empty shell of a POS stock SCAM is nothing now but a tax loss for 99% of the shareholders. The only exception to the rule and statistics are the ones who foolishly came in at .0001, and even those will have a very hard time to even break even to very few shares relatively, but the broker fees and non liquid nature will ruin even any break even point. Other than that, the only gain is with the scum bags that got their shares for practically free.
And all of that is "for sure".
Come on now, the DTCC must be lying. LOL
http://dtcc.com/downloads/legal/imp_notices/2012/dtc/ope/1222-12.pdf
Might we go to being a SEC filer here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the shell is clean enough.
A real company, what a concept. LOL
They already have product in Home Depot, or at least that you can order either from Home Depot at a store or online. They have had a contract with them for years now.
I'm still trying to decide which way to go on this for today (about 15% green on the bid), maybe some of each. LOL
I'm part of the volume. Not in at those old 20's and 30's, but volume looks better now.
I see that another new operating company(PLR Energy, LLC) has been formed and listed for Damon Mound and Bryan Estate lease. Still no profitable oil coming out of course, but they did manage to get another extension for fixing the dead well violations by forming a brand new operating LLC. Now compliance date has been moved to Jan 2013.
Funny the only supposed asset that shareholders own, even though its just a bunch of dead non producing stripper wells with violations changes lease operators (most of the expense for the supposed "working interest") and they give no notice to shareholders.
Really what does it matter, it's all a sham anyways, and the non producing part stays with it, can't get the last few drops of oil out of the muck profitably (other than selling shares of a dirty pink).
Well after the Global Lock, it sure looks that way. You might get lucky I guess, a few sales might go through at the .0001, but getting those for all your shares are probably impossible (especially since the broker won't have anything to do with them). They also will be so few sales in relationship to the 15 Billion share structure, if any, it won't be worth mentioning.
As BigBake stated, .0001 with NO BID is worthless, which is where it's been at for some time and the tax difference between .0001 and zero with your write off probably isn't much in relationship to your whole tax position. Of course it depends on how much you paid; if you only paid .0001 then you didn't pay much and the tax code these days don't give much for deductions anyway (at least not enough in my opinion, the time and/or cost vs every per $100 deduction is getting very inefficient to say the least).
But yes, given the Global Lock and most brokers not dealing with it (soon to be none or at least yours with no way to transfer), it pretty much only leaves the tax loss. The BEHL ticker/shell is not coming back.
Definitely lessons can be had here. Any shareholder of this scam CRWV should do some serious review of what they were paying attention exactly to and take that review of CRWV investing or trading to heart for any future market actions. Was the "following" given to the posts advocating "everything is ok", "CRWV is interesting, something must be happening", "the I'm your friend" type or was it to the posts exposing the facts about bogus financial statements, bogus PR's, the dubious people behind the shell, etc type.
This shell now is still breaking new lows (.0005 today) and only a few more ticks to NO BID just like it did last time before they did a RS, silence, and new scam (one of the most brutal and obvious as 1manband stated). There is nothing new about the lack of liquidity with this stock and how it is floundering about. Why it was so easy to be correct and foresee to where it is now at.
Lesson being; one needs to pay attention to the real DD and to the ones giving that real DD (even though negative), not the "hope and dreams" or things that "sound good" or the company charlatans of the dirty pinks pretending to be ones friend. The real friend with stocks like CRWV is oneself paying attention to the documented facts, ignoring the hype, recognizing obvious scams such as CRWV, keeping ones money at the start. After the scam, there is no way to get it back from the scammers.
The fact that those securities are being removed by the NYSE rulings regarding conflict of interest is giving credence to the theory that the new investors are going to stick around for awhile.
Sure is funny how some of the most misinformed/misguided OTC pinky retail can get so exited with a couple dollar stock like KCG with drifts up and down of 10-15 cents.
I am curious if they might RS it up above the $5 mark if it doesn't go up there in the next six months or so. Of course it's a good possibility it will get there mid-longer term anyway. Seemed to have stabilized around here for now and setting up for an increase of 20-25% in the next few months.
There is no more "company" (hasn't been for a long time) and I sure don't have any direct line to Pawson or others connected to him (not my type of crowd). Anyone who you have on the boards or anywhere else that are supposedly "connected" would be ones who want to get rid of their shares and definitely not want any more at this point. This shell is so dirty, not even the scum can do much with it, the DTCC and SEC is making and has made sure of that.
I would suggest calling back the idiot who you talked to and ask them for the list of NO BID dirt shell tickers that have been Globally Locked by the DTCC with criminal complaints by the SEC, etc that made up the "some stocks able to bounce back after similar crisis" in the current OTC environment. I would be interested in that list. But the "can't place any orders while on suspension" sounds about right though.
In reality though, the suggestion to go higher up with your broker and to more authority (and experience or intelligence) may be a better use of the time spent on BEHL.
Sure do, but we always did know where this dirty shell was going. Global Lock; now the grave been dug, ticker lowered in and dirt starting to be shoveled in. A few more criminal action complaints by the SEC and it will be a done deal.
If only there could be some Fed action against Pawson, that would be some icing on the cake. Time for him to be put down completely and his NO BID reign ended.
Summer been just fine, come in now and then to do some big boards, but that's about it on the market.
Checking in here, sure looks like pretty much where we said this thing would end up. Just takes a lot of time. Reading through some of the posts, it seemed like some shareholders were just starting to make some of the same mistakes "following" certain persons that supposedly were "in the know" and "connected" to BEHL. Sure the BEHL shell was going to be bought up, you bet, riiiight.
Probably take another year and the ticker will be in the next round of hundreds of old tickers that the SEC takes out. In reality this thing has been dead anyway. A few million here and there of a NO BID symbol hasn't changed that.
Now nothing left but just shareholders giving away the shares to get it off their books.
Chart candles (open and close) are pretty much garbage when things like this are happening making the overall chart with little use. Friday 6/15/12 trade data for MDGC and those ridicules beginning and end of day 5,000 trades. Half of all the total volume went for the low of .0011 and .0007. Pretty obvious what the minimal 5k trades were doing. The whole 15 trades and a few million volume is pretty pathetic in any respect for a double zero stock (especially when some was in the trips).