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lmao, I expected the whole fake thing, thats why i did a screenshot of my shaw webmail thinking that may actually be enough. Guess you are in on the scam, but if anyone else doesn't believe, you can certainly contact him yourself and ask if he has heard of the two companies - the contact is on the supposed 'fake' screenshot!
oh yeah, I really talk about my big board investments on ihub...lol
here ya go - I've been in since July so yes, I care if BS is spread relating to it (I am kcprinters)
http://thelion.com/bin/forum.cgi?sf=nuro&msg=863&t=
I'd expect the pump is over well before anything ever showed up in Walmart - I have a few other emails out to various places so will post if I get replies as it will probably clear more things up.
still waiting for more info, but EKNL looks to have associated itself fraudulently with NURO. If it was all legit and NURO was doing a joint speech with NeuroVasc president, why would they have never heard of NeuroVasc or EKO International?
They admit to doing the speech with Paul Ziemer, but it would appear Paul Ziemer works and is representing another company (that which I am trying to find out). Seems more likely they just picked his name out of a hat and decided to use it.
I suspect they haven't heard of xtreme as well.
obviously my biggest interest is the existence of Neurovasc. Why no public record of this company - perhaps a website would help if someone claims otherwise? If that checks out, at least there is something good happening. If it exists, and Paul Ziemer infact runs it, then they have nothing to worry about. If it doesn't exist, the cease and desist will probably come within days (as was the case with GVBP when they used a British company fraudulently).
Even if its all legit, I am not entirely sure of how good this really is - I'd assume any sales of the DPN check goes to NURO, so where does this help EKNL's bottom line? I'd be more concerned with the fact that NURO associates with them and would re-assess my stock position there...lol
great, now you force me to do DD because the pump supposedly involves a real company I am invested in (NURO)...ok, so what is the deal here? My best take, is this merger company is fictitious and they are using the name Paul Ziemer (who only reference I can find is owner of Canadian Laser and Pain Therapy), to convince a 'partnership' with NURO as I can verify that Ken Snow of NURO IS speaking at that conference with 'a' Paul Ziemer.
Big question for me is does NeuroVasc Clinical/Medical actually exist, is Paul Ziemer actually a part of it, and if not, does Paul Ziemer know his name is being used fraudulently?
Will be contacting NURO looking for answers - odds are if its all false, they will be coming quick with the cease and desist.
yep, those guys - I saw that - signed up and my welcome email was from:
Flashnet IT Corp, 55 Chawen, Hong Kong, HK 88908, HONG KONG
they have a serious scrambler on location it seems..lol
the signup email comes from Flashnet IT - hong kong - throw that in the mix
also looks alot like awesomestocks.com though so may not mean much, and seems to be linked to peterleeds.com which runs off facebook....not typical APS tactic
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=79573239
well I agree to the benefits, but in general, ever since these 'pre' pay guys have shown up, the promo game has got real dicey with all the frontload. These groups I think are contributing to the downfall of the promo, the games, the cancellations, and us guys that have been doing them for years are getting bummed out.
That said, the resources are out there that you don't need to spend the big bucks for subscription...TBX is easy - I was in AGRT a week before alert (yes, heavy paper loss day before but my biggest gain ever in the end), PVTA I was on holiday but was alerted and obvious day before which I commented on), VKMD was no brainer and I had pre cheapies (that was my 1 arse whooping by not having a stop loss and heading to an appointment thou during crash hour), and this one (much harder as I had 5 possibles), but had it confirmed yesterday at the open.
Most of these you can figure out between logic, MM's, price action, chats, forums.
That said, one nice score on the pre-alert can pay for a years worth. If I was doing this full time, I would probably sign up with one of them.
I wish all promoters were like SMA and just stick up with a $99 ask until promo actually begins - its the easy way to do business and it takes away the frontload advantage that can kill the play anyway.
tis fine...if he is strictly referring to the first email from SMA itself, technically he is correct and I apologize as I was referring to the 11:11 email I got. Very little relevance to what he stated though since the world mostly knew the ticker several minutes before that and we were all jockeying for a position at the same time, whether we were premium members or not.
first sister email came 11:11 - I suppose if you are referring to the first from SMA directly, as that was 11:18 (for me anyway), but as I said, it was out on ihub for 23 minutes already
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=80025457
and all over every chat around 11, so to state your premium group had a huge advantage wasn't exactly accurate, it just meant we all had to pay more because everyone bid it up.
11:17:06 1.36 1000 OBB
11:17:05 1.36 5000 OBB
11:16:52 1.35 2100 OBB
11:16:52 1.35 2000 OBB
11:16:49 1.36 2500 OBB
11:16:49 1.35 5000 OBB
11:16:41 1.36 5000 OBB
11:16:39 1.36 2500 OBB
11:16:30 1.35 500 OBB
11:16:13 1.40 2100 OBB
11:16:13 1.40 2000 OBB
11:16:13 1.40 2000 OBB
11:16:13 1.40 900 OBB
11:16:13 1.40 1100 OBB
11:16:11 1.35 2000 OBB
11:16:11 1.35 3900 OBB
11:15:58 1.48 500 OBB
11:15:25 1.40 100 OBB
11:15:25 1.40 1000
11:14:50 1.39 2400 OBB
11:14:34 1.38 600 OBB (first point that 1.30's could be really grabbed)
11:14:01 1.43 125 OBB
11:13:34 1.40 600 OBB
11:13:31 1.50 1000 OBB
11:13:20 1.50 500 OBB
11:13:20 1.50 3000 OBB
11:13:20 1.50 1000 OBB
11:13:20 1.50 500 OBB
11:13:13 1.51 5000 OBB
11:13:13 1.52 230 OBB
11:13:13 1.52 500 OBB
11:13:13 1.52 1500 OBB
11:13:13 1.53 700 OBB
11:13:09 1.50 1300 OBB
11:13:06 1.51 19500 OBB
11:13:03 1.73 100 OBB
11:12:50 1.73 100 OBB
11:12:46 1.72 500 OBB
11:12:29 1.52 2500 OBB
11:12:21 1.52 1000 OBB
11:12:15 1.73 4000 OBB
11:12:10 1.51 500 OBB
11:12:07 1.51 3000 OBB
11:12:02 1.51 2500 OBB
11:12:02 1.51 2400 OBB
11:12:00 1.51 10000 OBB
11:11:53 0.95 200000 OBB (first sister email here)
11:10:16 1.50 500 OBB
11:09:59 0.95 100000 OBB
11:09:43 0.95 75000 OBB
11:09:35 1.50 2000 OBB (that was my first block)
11:08:40 1.05 125000 OBB
11:08:31 1.00 200000 OBB
11:08:27 1.37 1200 OBB (1 guy may have got 1.30's before emails)
11:08:25 0.95 7000 OBB
11:08:15 0.95 150000 OBB (first 'transaction')
You 'said' before the emails, implying you guys were in before - I'm just saying no one bought anything meaningful before the emails. I actually got one of the first retail fills from what I saw:
09/28/2012 11:09:35 $-3,006.95 Bought 2,000 SANP @ $1.50 Detail
Only a couple funny blocks from the promoters and maybe a couple other retails got in before that...$1.5 was the first reasonable ask that showed up. As I said though, 10 minutes after, then you could fill 1.30's and 1.40's of which I scooped some more 1.35, but at that point, most of ihub knew since the backdoor was posted at 10:54
High alert yes, already in, misleading!
and I quote:
dont' need to lie buddy - no one got 1.30's before emails were sent - some 1.30's were found 10 minutes after the emails started, but I recon most of the member got in upper 1.40's 1.50's as they would be jumping first and that was all that was filling at the start.
Yes, they got the pick figured prior, but it provided zero advantage, and your alert likely just meant we all had to pay more at the start because of the bid stack that happened.
Just sayin!
real company with real revenues - likely not what 'we' are looking for IMH
E goes on monday for delinquent FWIW
? Tobin Smith already has a mailer out on it a few days back - there is no front run, its already going?
http://www.disruptiveoiltech.com/
its already got a 2.5m promo on it, do you really think they bring another one as well??
But, typically this firm does not p&d.
what others did they do besides IDNG?? I don't believe they touched those nasdaq ones they tout, so I'm curious in track record beyond 1 pick.
i always do stop limits when I do them - in the event of a disaster, you don't want a stock at 0.7 with a stop at say 0.5, have it gap down to 0.2, but then march right back up. At the same time, in promo world, you don't want it too close to your stop if you have a slow executing broker, that it just falls below your limit order and you have to cancel or modify that takes you out of queue and a much lower fill by the time you change it.
I also consider where it could bounce - if you bought at 0.7, its currently around $1, you may set stop loss 0.8 with a limit 0.65 - then if you are 'anticipating' a 50% retrace, you won't get filled down in 50% range just at the point it turns back up. Just so many scenarios - is the final promo dump coming or is it first dip time? How much cushion do you currently have?...whatever. If you are gambling around final dump time, maybe just a stop is the way to go without the limit.
If you are trading real stocks, its a whole different ballgame as well and I would definitely focus more on mental stops.
Thats the way I play it, I'm sure others may do different, but its what works for you.
See post 450...i would assume this is already full swing. There was confirmation of who was involved a week or two ago just no real mailers out. This will probably start the increased volume. As I said, I would expect more in the 2 to 3 range only based on history, but I certainly wouldnt guarantee it given the promo disasters everywhere these days and the fact that fall promo is no where near as good as winter/ spring promo.
yah, look back to my prior exchange with mcnasty - already pointed that out - I saw that bollinger came out at a good time where good money was still to be made. I just couldn't find any brighton mailer except that which I posted day before IDNG crash.
Doesn't matter - when I found the bollinger email, I knew 'where' in the promo this one should be...then I get yoyos here bashing me public and PM like I'm trying to crap on their play. Love ihub and the lunatics it comes with. What a paranoid world.
I was just trying to figure out the timing of 'when we knew' vs when the promo started...the first link I saw was
http://sendgrid.com/wf/webmail?rp=ZTI1bGQzTnNaWFIwWlhKZmFXUTZNVEl6TkN4MWMyVnlYMmxrT2pJMU5qVTBmUWV5SnVaWGR6YkdWMGRHVnlYMmxrSWpvaU5ETTNORGswSWl3aWJtVjNjMnhsZEhSbGNsOTFjMlZ5WDJsa0lqbzNPVE14T0RBMU9USXlmUT09
That email (dated and with the D) implied that was the first public release email from brighton, but it came out the day it did the final tank. As I discussed after, I realized that bollinger released much earlier, which could coincide to the same timing as PANL right now (a positive, not a bash here).
Id looks like this could have a shot to $2-3.
To the idiot that says take a hike, why don't you take a pill! I'm not bashing, I am studying the timeframe and the promoter that I am not that familiar with...its called DD and discussion...mcnasty knows I'm just trying to gauge how long and how successful the promo could be so I don't need mr bully trying to protect his shares thx, I'm not looking to steal them.
wording from that link implied that was 'first release' even if they were behind the scenes for longer - just referring to public release...meh, regardless - I have watched from $1 (traded for a few), I just wasn't excited once I heard it was the IDNG guys and my only recollection of that ticker was alot of people bending over!
+ I just hate the $1 promos - I just can't remember a good one since ALZM and I remember too many that shafted. Considering VKMD though, those $1 promos looking pretty nice right about now..lol
I'd say original public release was $2.19, got to $4.83, reverse split, closed .94, then brighton released, it crashed to .32 from 0.94 open - thats scary crap. Obviously judging on the timeframe of IDNG though, this one has to be the early stage still.
Question to ask yourself these days is, how much do you trust your promoter! lmao
I'm already studying - it looks like Brighton was the screwover email
http://sendgrid.com/wf/webmail?rp=ZTI1bGQzTnNaWFIwWlhKZmFXUTZNVEl6TkN4MWMyVnlYMmxrT2pJMU5qVTBmUWV5SnVaWGR6YkdWMGRHVnlYMmxrSWpvaU5ETTNORGswSWl3aWJtVjNjMnhsZEhSbGNsOTFjMlZ5WDJsa0lqbzNPVE14T0RBMU9USXlmUT09
(crashed the next day)
Bollinger however had emails out as early as May 9 though - almost a sleepy double from there - so maybe there is a play here.
Who does your email actually come from? Is belwether another sister or just common name for one of those?
lol, yeah, just fixed that in edit time...fill me in with past though - they mention 3 naz plays - was that them and where did they alert if so? At the end?? Have they actually had a successful bb promo? I don't see any history tieing their letters to those stock movements.
so fill me in as I never played them before - crash about to start Monday?
Based on:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76898983
and that crashed the next day?
Wow are they ever lazy when it comes to writeups - just copy the past writeup and change ticker?
Did they even run those nasdaq plays mentioned?
oh hell, can't even keep track - who is that guy again? Leaked stock? What was prior plays? edit (never mind - I see its in the content!)
hey, just cause you are banned from ATA, don't turn this into a BS forum - it had been great for years, no crap, just trading - please keep it that way! Set up a conspiracy theory board and post there if you want to talk about whats going on at ATA!
I got paragon 2 days ago being ORYN again????
yep...that was the call that I missed that had me kicking myself AH...it was nice to see they didn't run it that next morning and gave a chance to keep on radar. Snagged 0.08 and 0.085 yesterday off the drop.
yeah, seems to be a little hub out of there - Eric APS was originally out of Montreal right, and I used to work with the guy that run freeinvestment report and killer penny and he is out of Mississauga. Who knew we had all these big pumpers up here..lol
they are in Toronto (I should clarify - some members in Toronto, others in Montreal)...
u need a monkey and a lucky rabbits foot....problem solved
MFTH looking great - todays PR worth 0.02 alone - only 0.004
MFTH, thats a 0.02 PR on a 0.0027 stock FWIW - nice history of 1 day spikes too
AQNM - best bb/pink hurricane play with Isaac now officially classified as a hurricane and is much more dangerous because of its size
They cater right to it and don't be surprised to see their offer for 'help'...
http://www.aquentium.com/housing.htm