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Many in Australia have questioned our relying on America for defense if directly attacked, for years.
Well, we are not the country we were in WWII. There was a spell when an American was an Australian hero. My father was in the Navy then and spent some time there. He thought it a wonderful place with generous and fun people.
Trump was the dumbest son of a bitch, most of his cabinet stated that,
From a Higher Authority
While the former President has publicly backed Biden - albeit late in the day - he is said to be warning his inner circle that he may not be fit for office.
'Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up,' Obama has cautioned, according to one Democrat who spoke to Politico.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8630561/Dont-underestimate-Joes-ability-f-things-Obama-shares-private-doubts-former-VP.html
A point I've been trying to make since the beginning... And I am hearing it said more and more as time goes on.....
And I happen to agree. Somewhere, sometime, we will have to call the bluff. I sincerely doubt that Putin would set of a nuclear bomb in his own back yard. And with the trouble that Putin is having with Ukraine, I doubt he wants WWIII.
The indians own approximately 44 million acres, with another 11 million in trust. It is not American, it is their land.
Where did you get those numbers? A link please?
If the pipeline is crossing private property, bought and paid for by any American citizen, they have some rights. Unless (for the good of the country/community) eminent domain may apply.
The reservation land, under stewardship of the U.S. Government, allows the government to put a pipeline across it.
Politics is making out that without the pipeline, no oil is coming...
I guess I see it differently than you. Of course the oil is coming. The question is from who. Iran, Venzuela or Canada?
Iran is currently struggling to increase output. Venezuela will need some time to restart production and Canada will need to finish Keystone (they promise early 2023). Do we wait for the 2 despots to get up and running and give them the money (Iran and/or Venezuela)? Or do we let Canada finish the pipeline and give the money to a neighbor ally?
I prefer the money go to Canada. Just my opinion.
Once again we are talking about soiux lands, and the 1868 Fort Laramie Treaty, that was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1980
Treaty of Fort Laramie (1868)
In exchange, the U.S. Government established the Great Sioux Reservation, consisting of a large portion of the western half of what is now the state of South Dakota, including the Black Hills, which are sacred to the Sioux people.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/fort-laramie-treaty
I'm not getting your point here. The Supreme Court (1980) ruled that the U.S. Government owed the Sioux Tribe $17.1 million + %5 interest from 1877, for taking the land of the Black Hills. Their reservation was held as other tribal reservations, "In Trust of U.S. Government"
UNITED STATES v. SIOUX NATION OF INDIANS
United States Supreme Court
UNITED STATES v. SIOUX NATION OF INDIANS(1980)
In sum, we conclude that the legal analysis and factual findings of the Court of Claims fully support its conclusion that the terms of the 1877 Act did not effect "a mere change in the form of investment of Indian tribal property." Lone [448 U.S. 371, 424] Wolf v. Hitchcock, 187 U.S., at 568 . Rather, the 1877 Act effected a taking of tribal property, property which had been set aside for the exclusive occupation of the Sioux by the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868. That taking implied an obligation on the part of the Government to make just compensation to the Sioux Nation, and that obligation, including an award of interest, must now, at last, be paid.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/448/371.html#:~:text=Under%20the%20Fort%20Laramie%20Treaty%20of%201868%2C%20the,least%20three-fourths%20of%20the%20adult%20male%20Sioux%20population.
The logic goes to every smaller country in the world...And every dictator larger than them...
As well as Iran and North Korea. Not world dominant countries, but with the right tools and with lunatics running them, the message can be troublesome, to say the least.
The pipeline is to make it easier...The oil sand is coming to the gulf by train...
I agree. But not in the quantity a pipeline would allow, thereby reducing costs. Endgame, cheaper byproducts. And, althought there is much discussion about environmental concerns of the pipeline, there are far greater concerns with shipping by rail.
So, its another spin of the facts for politics sake, not so unlike a biolab becoming a bioweapons production lab...
I don't recall saying that the labs in Ukraine were bioweapons labs. However, they do have the same risks as Wuhan, especially if a Russian Rocket were to hit one, intentionally or unintentionally. Why oh why don't they build those things underground, instead of a fancy facility begging for catastrophe? And on the border of Russia? Or in China? Real strategic thinking, eh?
The other smaller non NATO countries now know they are expendable to the Free World,,,We may force them into alliances we will regret later..
Well "B", I don't claim to be the brightest berry on the bush and I am sure neither do you. But we figured this out, so I assume most of the intelligentsia have as well. So, in their eyes, as well as us less intelligent, how does all the chest thumping about "We can't help Ukraine, but we will fight to the death for NATO Allies", sound?
My opinion. Stupid, Phony, and Weak.
The other smaller non NATO countries now know they are expendable to the Free World
Which begs the question "Just who would we defend?" We've already showed our abilities in Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan, unworthy as they were. And we have failed an ally that is willing to fight and not bite us in the ass, doing so. Wonder what other people, smarter than us, think about all that?
You also dismiss that the pipeline would go over lands that do not belong to America
Really? Seems the Federal Government owns and holds in trust all Indian Reservation Land. And also regulates the development of natural resources such as oil and gas. I would also assume that the government, being the caretaker of that land can approve a pipeline through it.
Federal Government Continues to Give Native American Tribes a Bad Deal
While some tribes have chosen not to develop resources, many—among them the Crow tribe—find it nearly impossible to do so in the face of the federal government’s overregulation and heavy-handed land management.
Indian reservations are considered federal lands. Those lands are held in trust by the federal government, meaning the government manages the lands for the benefit of the Native American populations.
This approach dates back to 1831, when then-Chief Justice John Marshall’sdecision in Cherokee Nation v. Georgia enshrined the idea of paternalistic federal oversight of Indian lands. “Their relations to the United States resemble that of a ward to his guardian,” he wrote.
https://www.heritage.org/government-regulation/commentary/federal-government-continues-give-native-american-tribes-bad-deal
It is still Canadian oil, and the worse, why care about it, it is going to make a difference.
Makes about as much difference as much that is discussed here or over things supposedly worthy of insults, personal attacks and name calling.
By the way, the opinion I referenced was an Energy expert at University of Michigan as well as that of an economist. Not that of a politician, using a false narrative to advance her own political agenda.
So, let's forget it. OK?
And I just go a step farther and think we should treat Ukraine as a NATO country....
Perhaps we are. Think Latvia. Would Biden or Europe risk WWIII or Nuclear Holocaust over Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia? Not likely and I think Biden hopes he will not have to find out, after all the shouting about protecting/defending our NATO allies.
You post someone's opinion that he thinks
And what exactly are your opinions based on. Are you an oil expert or passing on an opinion?
This is heavy oil, the worse oil, not meant to be used in today's cars.
What? Oil is "REFINED" to products/distillates used in various forms. No matter what the grade of oil prior to being refined.
And, even if it were refined for uses other than gasoline, it would reduce the amount of light crude used for various other distillates.
And one more thing you might consider. What type of oil does Venezuela produce? You got it friend, heavy sour tar oil. Better to get it from Canada than Venezuela, in my opinion.
{Sorry for the updates}
So the oil is being pumped and transported and still did nothing to keep the price of oil down. Looks like the Keystone pipeline doesn't have to be done, that subject is closed.
Perhaps you did not read the whole article. The Capline Pipeline can only handle 200,000 barrels a day. The Keystone would have handled 640,000 a day. That would be 3 times the current amount going to southern refineries, which, by the way, are set up for refining heavy crude oils.
And, as I previously posted, the everything from Canada is for export only is Bullshit.
Again, the Keystone oil is being shipped to the Gulf for export. Not going to be sold to America, which is a fact.
Just another Liberal False Narrative, to justify shutting down the Keystone.
Please read this post.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168176815
In addition, it was strictly for export from the Gulf.
Pinocchio!!!
What experts say
Gillibrand suggests the crude oil imported through the pipeline would be immediately exported to other countries once it reaches the Gulf Coast. Experts say that is not the case.
"I don't believe that she is correct," said Mark Bateau, Director of the Energy Institute at the University of Michigan. "In general, refineries designed to handle heavier crudes are the ones most likely to utilize this oil, in some cases instead of heavy crudes imported from places like Venezuela."
"I would say it doesn’t accurately describe the likely outcome," said Stanley Reynolds, an environmental economics expert from the University at Arizona. "It’s true that the oil would come from Canada and then mainly go to the U.S. Gulf Coast for refining."
TransCanada, the company building the pipeline, confirmed in an email that the pipeline was designed to reach refineries in the Gulf Coast region.
Experts also say it’s unlikely that none of the refined products will be sold in the U.S. once the pipeline is built.
"That refined oil product, gasoline or whatever, could be just as easily consumed in the United States as somewhere else," said Barry Rabe, an expert on environmental policy from the University at Michigan. "There’s nothing on the oil coming through a pipeline from Canada that requires all of that to be sold somewhere else."
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/apr/16/kirsten-gillibrand/will-oil-keystone-xl-pipeline-stay-us/
So, yes, Biden is hampering Canadian profits on oil we don't particularly want.
So, Biden would rather import "Tar Sand" oil from Venzuela?
Venezuelan tar sands
https://www.banktrack.org/project/venezuelan_tar_sands
And why is oil via the Capline Pipeline acceptable and not the Keystone?
Canadian Oil Sands Production Finds a New Outlet to the U.S. Gulf Coast
The Capline pipeline, connecting Patoka, Illinois to St. James, Louisiana, is now fully operational, transporting heavy crude oil produced in Canada’s tar sands to refiners along the U.S. Gulf of Mexico.
The 632-mile, 40-inch pipeline system historically moved crude from the Louisiana Gulf Coast to Midwestern refiners, but was recently reversed to allow the delivery of oil from Canadian tar or oil sands to Gulf Coast refineries and shipping terminals.
The pipeline began interim service on December 18, 2021 and went fully operational on January 1, 2022. It is currently transporting 200,000 barrels a day, with a little excess capacity to spare.
https://heartlanddailynews.com/2022/02/canadian-oil-sands-production-finds-a-new-outlet-to-the-u-s-gulf-coast/
Worth a listen.........
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1151709222242443
VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which, In fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of.
So, I wonder why that is? And what happened to your Russian Disinformation Rant?
George Carlin must be rolling in his grave, laughing at you asshats. LOL!!
You rant about Trump sycophants, but grasp at any news that supports the idiots (Biden/Harris} in the White House, as they bumble along trying to cover their asses, for all the chaos they have created. Not one criticism of Biden from any of the left wing delusional sycophants. Everything he does is perfect? You are a real piece of work. LOL!!
Oh Trump was a real Idiot. Germans laughed at him at NATO.
You credulous dumb ass, all you had to do was turn on c-span to watch Rubio question Nuland (Biden appointee)).
Get your head out of your ass and quit trying so hard to cover for this mess.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005237/user-clip-marco-rubio-qeustions-victoria-nuland-backed-biolabs-ukraine
Listen to what she said yet? And better yet........
We never imagined Ukraine would have biological weapons. Why would Ukraine have bioweapons? So, it seemed like a pretty strange question, but it wasn't half as shocking as the answer he got. Here's what Toria Nuland said.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which, In fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.
Does Ukraine have biological weapons? Ugh, Ukraine has biological research facilities. What? You mean secret bio labs like the secret bio labs that Ukraine definitely doesn't have? Ukraine has those? Yes, it does. And not only does Ukraine have secret bio labs, Toria Nuland said, whatever they're doing in those labs is so dangerous and so scary that she is, "quite concerned" that the so-called research material inside those bio labs might fall into the hands of Russian forces.
Try not to use profanity on the air to describe our reaction. Our jaws dropped, let's leave it there. Under oath in an open committee hearing, Toria Nuland just confirmed that the Russian disinformation they've been telling us for days is a lie and a conspiracy theory and crazy and immoral to believe is, in fact, totally and completely true.
Woah, you don't hear things like that every day in Washington. Talk about a showstopper and a dozen questions instantly jump to mind. What exactly are they doing in these secret Ukrainian bio labs? Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. It's hardly a hotbed of biomedical research. We're assuming these weren't pharmaceutical labs, probably not developing new Leukemia drugs. From your answer, Toria Nuland, we would assume because you all but said it, that there's a military application to this research, that they were working on bioweapons. Again, your answer suggests that.
Why would we fund something like that in Ukraine, and why didn't you secure the contents of these bio labs before the Russians arrived as you knew they would? And then why did you go out of your way to lie to the American public about all of this? If the "research materials" in these labs were to escape somehow and you seem very concerned about that, what would be the effect on Ukraine and then on the rest of the world? How can we prepare for the consequences of that, this thing that you're worried about? Shouldn't we be preparing? Because as it turns out, we've just spent the last two years living with the pathogen that began in another foreign bio lab funded by the United States government secretly.
You can read the whole transcript here......
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/03/10/tucker_carlson_why_is_the_united_states_funding_biological_labs_in_ukraine_what_is_victoria_nuland_hiding.html
Is the United States funing Bio Labs in Ukraine? Well, as Billy Clinton would say........"That depends on what the definition of "IS" is. Do you understand "Fact Checking" now?
And then there is this tidbit....
https://eadn-wc02-4988931.nxedge.io/cdn/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Screen-Shot-2022-03-09-at-9.41.41-AM-768x519.png
Have seen enough doctored videos from him to last a lifetime. Not saying they would be, but no one except him could know they are legit, or not.
Well, it has been 24 hours and I have not heard a peep from the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter in rebuttal to the story. Let's see how it plays out.
ForReal, Why would you post crap like that from O'Keefe's fake news machine.
Actually I posted 2 links, because I figured to get that type of response.
I would have included a NYT link, but I doubt they will publish the story. LOL!!
Also, the tape/video is readily available to view. You don't believe what you see with your own eyes?
Pulitzer Prize Winning New York Times Reporter: January 6 Media Coverage ‘Overreaction,’ FBI Involved, Event Was Not Organized Despite Ongoing Narrative
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/pulitzer-prize-winning-new-york-times-reporter-january-6-media-coverage/
https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/08/new-york-times-project-veritas-january-6-capitol-riot-matthew-rosenberg/
Im seeing reports on TV that chemical attacks may be next
Well, there are some concerns about the Bio Labs, that America has been funding in Ukraine, may fall into the hands of the Russians. Or that a stray rocket may destroy one of the labs and disperse pathogens into the air and areas around the labs.
Testifying in front of US Congressmen, Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland said: “Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1578179/russia-news-bio-attack-fears-chemical-warfare-wuhan-labs-targeted-putin-ukraine
US Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland: “US Government is working with Ukraine to prevent Biological Research Facilities from falling into the hands of Russians”
Ukraine has "biological research facilities," says Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, when asked by Sen Rubio if Ukraine has biological or chemical weapons, and says she's worried Russia may get them. But she says she's 100% sure if there's a biological attack, it's Russia. pic.twitter.com/uo3dHDMfAS
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 8, 2022
Yep!!!
My response to that
https://investorshub.advfn.com/secure/post_reply.aspx?message_id=168143828
"much rather NATO" LOL, the USA is NATO!!!!!
BULLSHIT!!
NATO will be Biden's scapegoat, should Ukraine fall to the Russians and a minor player to Biden's Great Diplomacy, if in the unlikely event, Ukraine drives Russia out of Ukraine.
Diplomats sound more and more hollow as they claim they Stand beside the brave Ukrainians!
All the more hollow as they allow Russia to recruit foreign troops, while they hesitate to help Ukraine.
Why is it OK for Russia to bing foreign troops into Ukraine, without penalty, but NATO forces wanting to help (according to those diplomats) are threatened with Nuclear Reprisal, if they send troops to help Ukraine. NATO even fears reprisals for delivering MIGS from Poland to Ukraine.
WTF????????????
Russia is trying to recruit Syrians to fight in Ukraine, U.S. says
The Pentagon said Monday it believes that Russia is now trying to recruit Syrian fighters to bolster the Russian war effort in Ukraine.
The Wall Street Journal first reported the story Sunday, saying Russia is seeking Syrians who have taken part in urban combat and could help Russia take control of cities such as Ukraine's capital Kyiv.
"The accounts of the Russians seeking Syrian fighters, to augment their forces in Ukraine, we do believe there's truth to that," Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters. "It's interesting that (Russian President Vladimir) Putin would have to rely on foreign fighters."
Kirby said he had no information on the numbers or the caliber of the Syrian fighters that the Russians are trying to sign up.
Russia has not commented on the reports.
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/07/1084963489/us-russia-is-trying-to-recruit-syrian-fighters-to-go-to-ukraine
And not a peep of warning off the Russians for involving foreign troops can be heard, before it MAY happen.
Go suck Putin's dick somewhere else, traitor.
I guess we will let your girlfriend do that chore. Maybe you can help her.
Ilhan Omar says she'll vote against a bill to ban Russian oil, citing the 'devastating impact' on the Russian people
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ilhan-omar-says-she-ll-vote-against-a-bill-to-ban-russian-oil-citing-the-devastating-impact-on-the-russian-people/ar-AAUO7yx?ocid=msedgntp
They have thanked us for the weapons and do want more,,but Zelensky and the people are saying they need more than that if they are to succeed....
Well guess what?
Pentagon nixes Polish plan to provide Soviet-era MiGs to Ukraine
Prior reporting had indicated the Biden administration proposed that Warsaw provide the fleet to Ukraine, with the U.S. then “backfilling” Poland’s fleet with modern U.S.-made aircraft.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-nixes-polish-plan-to-provide-soviet-era-migs-to-ukraine/ar-AAUNbrA
Go suck Putin's dick somewhere else, traitor.
Go put your head in Biden's lap and stroke his leg hair asshole!!
You are all for giving Maduro money, so he can pay off his debt to Russia (Putin)? Figures that you would support a despot that is facing charges of crimes to humanity. You are such a douche!!
So Biden attacked Ukraine?
Nah. He's just watching and hoping for an easy way out of this. Kind of like Crimea and Eastern provinces of Ukraine.
Of course Ukraine can prevail by themselves. Did the NVA prevail against us, hasn't Afghanistan prevailed against everyone? How did our occupation of Iraq go?
NVA: Gee, perhaps we would have prevailed there except for a few differences. Topography, the people didn't really want us there, NVA had plenty of help from neighboring countries, South Viet Army was a joke and that fucking DMZ. Whole different ballgame.
Afghanistan: Again, the same situation.
Iraq: Same deal.
Now Ukraine. Flat plain, Ukraine willing to fight, but we and our allies are not allowed to add our troops, although Russia is recruiting Syrians now.
Whole different ballgame.
Biden is speaking soon and announcing the US ban on oil...Thats the last card to play..
OH Great. We will be sending oil dollars to Venezuela and to another asshole that is committing crimes against humanity.
NK next on the prediction list....
Or perhaps Taiwan. China already sounding out about the Indo-Pacific Alliance. This, shortly after lifting sanctions from China and dropping the China Initiative. Sound familiar? Kind of like lifting sanctions from Nord Stream.
To compound the China/Taiwan situation, our trade with China is a dependence for us as well as China. Stopping trade with China, in retribution would not only create economic chaos worldwide, but eliminate many of the products America needs. Think pharmaceutical additives as one of those.
Fucking CHAOS since Biden has taken office. We have been denutted, sack and all since Biden took over. Watch what happens in the Middle East. Soon to be next on the daily news. SHEESH!!
Gee, I wonder where this idea came from? Feeling the ramifications yet?
When China takes Taiwan, will the Indo-Pacific Alliance stand by and watch, because Taiwan is not a member? Will we be put off by hints of nuclear retaliation?
China warns US against Pacific NATO
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-warns-us-against-pacific-nato/ar-AAUK1iK?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Why didn't they just rename it then.... Sheesh, how stupid to end that...
What is so distressing is (in that article), it was "Optics" that was the reason for ending the China Initiative. Pure insanity to sacrifice the well being of our country and the businesses therein, because of "Optics".
I sometimes fear that we will never recover from the insanity of this administration's prerogatives and wokeness.
In what was supposed to be a secret trip, senior U.S. officials traveled to Venezuela over the weekend to discuss the chance of easing oil sanctions on the major crude-exporting country.
So, the answer/solution is to stop oil revenue to Russia for invading Ukraine and give it to a despot that is being investigated for "Crimes against humanity" WOW!! Aren't the Russians also committing "Crimes against humanity"?
White Home reaches out to foe Venezuela amid Russia disaster
In November, the Worldwide Prison Courtroom introduced it was opening a proper investigation into the alleged torture and extrajudicial killings of political opponents by the hands of Maduro’s safety forces, acts that U.N. investigators have described as “crimes in opposition to humanity.” It’s the first probe of its variety in Latin America.
In 2020, the highest U.N. human rights physique launched a report documenting how Maduro and his inside circle gave orders and provided sources for arbitrary detentions, torture, disappearances and extrajudicial killings. America has imposed sanctions in opposition to the Venezuelan authorities or Venezuelan people for greater than 15 years, however considerably tightened them in early 2019, after accusing Maduro of profitable the 2018 presidential elections by fraud.
https://thejustnews.net/white-home-reaches-out-to-foe-venezuela-amid-russia-disaster/
Why is Biden so stupid about tapping our own resources to take care of this situation?
Will the insanity ever end? Bigotry the ruse?
With America's Eyes on Ukraine, Biden Made Biggest Concession to China Yet
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/with-america-s-eyes-on-ukraine-biden-made-biggest-concession-to-china-yet-opinion/ar-AAUIUr2?ocid=msedgntp
Once russia is forced to end the offensive push, it will not take long for the Ukrainians to prevail.
I cheer for Ukraine and sincerely hope you are right. But, there is a part of me that says Ukraine, by themselves can not prevail against Russian occupation and control.
Of course Russia is having "trouble". They are trying to take the homeland from its occupants. That is never an easy thing. But Ukraine, depending solely on its own army and troops will eventually fall, in my opinion. To compound that, decisions by Ukraine allies to provide increasing numbers of weapons seems to suffer from hesitancy to commit those weapons to a losing cause. Again, my opinion.
The real question is, are there preparations for if Russia prevails? Will sanctions remain in place forever or until Ukraine can somehow push the Russians out of their country? And, will we then become more dependent on the régimes of places like Iran and Venezuela, to feed our thirst for oil, further enriching them, so they can oppress their people and fund terrorism?
I know my thoughts are bleak, but realistically, we must prepare for the possibilities I have stated in my opinions or again, we will be "Flat Footed" if the worst of outcomes do happen.