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Your correct and i appreciate your two suggestions, and ive got a couple more in that will be used if research merits that.
Again since you offered suggestions in your reply, im respecting that by replying back.
After re reading your post i did want to address the issues you raise or statements of your position as to being perfectly satisfied versus myself and many others are having issues. The boards issues mean very little IMO but obviously new investors not standing in line at brokers office . We shouldnt fool ourselves into thinking volume is only coming from the crooks shares coming off restriction, especially the ones that are having very key parts in the day to day function of PHAR allowed by HOWARD. Thats were #2 suggestion could be happening due to false and misleading information coming directly from Howard/PHAR. Most likely reason for the crook dumping portion of volume is not being able to force it down lower ,just sort making high volume days a wash on PPS
Man its been long, long nights as you indicate and i appreciate your concern too, over ideas to rest on the long nights of not sleeping, maybe if you would help and go ahead and spill the beans on secrets HOWARD/PHARMSTAR reveal to you ,all posts might be different. If its not insider material, and can raise market reaction, that should be a NO BRAINER.
If its being done to get PPS down so some can load up to try and recoup losses with this knowledge and not sharing with all, thats PHARMSTAR not playing nicely. SEC, believe it or not, due to some key players involved, DO NOT like PHAR not playing nice to all investors on the information regs to share with ALL through media. Simple rule, as im sure you agree.
Hope i responded to your offer on suggestions you offered.
PS- Howard not willing to answer direct questions, so im left in the dark. Ive tried, but im a huge failure i admitt in that area. But it only started failing after asking a few pointed questions, because in beginning i listened to the pitch, and couldnt get off phone with some at PHAR.
GLTA IMO
1900 ON Rights, a worker invented in late 1890s. My bad pharce buster
Bayer owns ASPRIN RIGHTS since 1886, then it was OTC approved decades later.
Bayer owns ALKA SELTZER, all flavors, with stomach sodium bicarb buffers . You will have to have something with AQUAPRIN to follow behind even if it mixes in 1.5 ounces of water to get it down.
As high of doasge as it has in asprin, it will work, as does with normal asprin products. If targeted with knowledgeable marketing structure and funtional business plan with MGT team with skills to impliment, it can go to market. Last place at this stage should be FIRST PRIORITY MARKETING to nursing homes , doctors etc.IMO.
For whatever reason so many outright ridiculous claims are made on web page its just a huge TURNOFF to many investors that dont fall for things this day and age in investing.
Look on web page, which is first place many go at a claim. OTC pain market is 10billion dollar of which HOWARD QUOTES AQUAPRIN would have sales of 1 billion a year of that market. WHAT THE HELL KIND OF INVESTOR IN THEIR RIGHT MIND COULD BELIEVE THAT RIDICULOUS CLAIM.
Got to get off high horse, high resume, unrealistic claims and learn how to ride a shetlon pony first, and it has hope. Otherwise it ends exactly like every single previous try as well as every single shell that those currently involved in PHAR ends. AIMO
GLTU
With respect , 2 large private tries with large private investors, last one just a couple of years ago. Got a $336,000 grant to boot on that one.
Funding was in place, product completely ready , building ready to produce and grant money to expand.
Help us understand as to why not be concerned that this is here we go again ,just with public money.
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/pharmastar/
GLTA
When you want the posts about BIG news, amazing progress coming to have any ounce of believability, and garner any kind of pom pom shaking it helps if ANY of past BIG news events can be validated as being truthful.
Thats not the case now at all. Doesnt it bug you any at the pattern of puttting out false PR now that many parts have been proven to be fabricated.
Doesnt it bug you that there seems to be a "plead the fifth" pattern with HOWARD when it comes to paying for marketing services rendered rather than putting payment responsibility elsewhere.
Awareness program, thats TJs fault. Let him pay , even though HOWARD knows that wont happen, so he gets free service.
Totally different situation, with fight promotion marketing contract, but same pattern, blame payment on someone else and WALA you have a hard working fighter in a huge advertising arena work his butt off to show his clients ad. But im going to deny i know anything. Any validation of HOWARD paying anyone for this. Thats like telling a bill collector the checks in the mail ,knowing full well its not.
The rest SNIZZLE is just fluff. I post to try and get HOWARD to break the pattern of deciept if he would realize he is not good at it. Covering up every issue for HOWARD is and has put PHAR right smack in the middle of how scamPINKS operate and how most boards cover them up as well.
Not going to hurt HOWARD to hear the truth sometimes. Certainly not going to hurt PPS anymore than the constant flow of non truths that IMO are insulting to any investor to try to be tricked into believing.
GLTA
Hey MakersMarker, you seem like you might be the type that enjoys watching these guys skill.
I see VLAD sent some pics. Not sure there is anyone as good as VLAD for getting good referrences about anything no matter how long ago.
I looked and looked for pic and only found one.
But i follow some of these guys and one very surprising tidbit on HENDERSON that you might be interested in if you appreciate the skills of the dudes.
Ben looks tough and rough and almost scary at times, but the guy has claimed to have never smoked,never drank, very religous family man and a double major college grad.
Point is i reckon, the guy did his job, and Aquaprin got exposure from a true proffessional in a huge arena. The guy is first class all the way..http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/SJJNAMARTIN/UFC%20Ben%20Henderson%20with%20PHAR/0431-1.jpg
Just from a business standpoint, it should not matter what tangled mess HOWARD is letting handle certain affairs, he is CEO and he claims AQUAPRIN is his baby, and he signed off on this to proceed.
GLTU
Seems to me somebody is telling another tale then. Phar invited if i remember correctly a IHUB moderator at the time to come to PHAR at old Rocky Mt facility. This IHUB mod also moderated first Confereance Call along with HOWARD. Many facebook posts during that time from IHUB posters to HOWARD and back and forth.
He knows , no need in trying to cover that up, should be no problem. HOWARD even sent several emails that were posted directly on IHUB by the poster Howard wanted to relay message.
Got to keep this honest, doesnt look right otherwise.
No problem if HOWARD knows about IHUB way back then, IMO, so why cover that up?
GLTU
We really all should start dealing more in facts. Howard has known about IHUB since day one and was quickly introduced to many old posters and first confereance call was initiated by IHUB members.
GLTU
As far as ANY validation of uplisting that has credibility that has withstood factchecking ,there is no PR or official statement saying that the first priority of AUDIT and getting a firm to do it has been spoken or printed..
The first PR was untruthful in stating a firm was already retained, meaning retainer paid, so that cancels validity of uplisting statement.
I cant say nor anyone on this board what the uplisting situation is right now. Just anybodys guess until the CEO decides to perform duties of a CEO
GLTU
Fair enough, and i do wish you the best. I hope your investment does reward you.
As we have spoke before,im not much on the dreaming part once i find facts and evidence that something is not right. After a year now, IMO thats long enough for the blame or poor mgt to be put anywhere but on CEO.
If that doesnt change, nothing else will other than a little news here and there.
GLTU
The fact that some news might be coming should not be BIG and SURPRISING. Its EXPECTED, if your a public company that hasnt updated investors in 7 months.
No excuse for as you speak of big exciting news to wait and wait to come out while PPs has dropped to near the basement .000+
News or updates that are long long overdue that comes after a destruction of investor confidence if we get a whopping 200% gain
gets us in the huge .003 range.
Point is HOWARD needs to figure out how to control running the company in the ground before expecting everyone to be shaking the pom poms because you say good news is coming.
Make it a habit of running the Company in good and bad times like a true proffessional.
I hope it is progress coming, its due, but the sad thing its come at the HEAVY expense of some very good people, many of them that were a part of the board but are gone for good.
GLTA
It shouldnt be a big thing. If he would pay the bill that was due for performing services that were for his Company that he is CEO ,that for some reason all his important filings ,someone else authors but you say as long as he signs,, all is legal and good to go. Why does that not apply in this case?
So Howard originally signed as CEO this contract, whether its true he signed under pressure or what,,, HE CANT PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN HE WANTS TO ACT LIKE A CEO....
Someone owes me money and do not want to pay, they might not like my approach, but i will keep hounding them until i get results. Sounds like these guys are sick of the run around..
So pay the people that performed their end of the bargain,, and then settle matters with the group he seems to being lying in bed with. They are involved in everything.
RESULT= .0011 low
What part of that do you not understand???
Hey mmainsider,, just learned from your post of HOWARDs email that payment was to be in PHAR shares..
Was it cash and a certain amt in stock? The ($5000) $8000 throwing me a little.
Thanks for clarifying Just curious..
GLTU
Hey Rukmusher,, hope you and family are well..
On this issue,, the whole thing was designed and put together for the benefit of PHARMSTAR PHARMACEUTICALS AQUAPRIN... That was the ad that was plasterd on Hendersons butt.
It just seems ridiculous for HOWARD to claim absence of any liability . Both promotions netted zero in PPs uptick . Would Howard be viewing things different if the Henderson fight gave it a huge blast from some rich dude in the arena wanting to know about AQUAPRIN... I personally think the outcome would be different.
I do think ,especially just hearing for the first time payment was promised in shares, what in the H--L good can come of HOWARD getting this kind of negative publicity over shares,, NO MATTER WHO IS RESPOSIBLE.. It was done on behalf of PHAR advertisement of AQUAPRIN and its not like HOWARD doesnt own a share or two.
Just sounds like business operating like a nightclub rather than a Pharmaceutical Company that is responsible to shareholders as well as some personal tangled web thats needs to be settled.
Always value your opinion
GLTU
I was sort of hoping in your insight as to why such a perfect setup 2yrs prior to public failed and what is different now that can be VALIDATED from all the PRs since inception and the disasterous drop in PPS.
Why do you think market reaction is not the same as what you relate to.
But thanks for reply however. I sure hope ill be rolling in the dough, overall market has climbed to new levels. Tired of cringing when i look at portfolio and have this one big rotten red apple staring at me.
Im not near as good as many investors on the board, but based on a promise, a promise made by a Christian family man i was told not to worry one bit about some previous knowledge of shell, i set a one year PPS projection on PHAR, even without one penny of revenue, @ .0625, basing it on DD at time. During the next year i estimated in .10-.12 range due to still revenue not enough.
The more hard research i have uncovered and lack of transparency has made my estimates look like a child did them...
Didnt have to go down like this. My fear is there has to be a product problem or asprin content is too high and medical field is not behind it.
Take care, GLTU prove me wrong
PS There is hope, but not the way its being handled like an awareness program or paint job to prop up PPS. WHILE ITS DOWN, perfect opportunity correct, IF CORRECTABLE IMO
GLTU
You may not be aware of this but it does contradict that idea and the truth about what happened just a short while ago should have merit for any shareholder.
In the below link notice the following statements that cause me to question your statement.
HOWARD states emphatically that PHASE one funding was COMPLETE with the ability to then produce several million dollars worth of AQUAPRIN.
HOWARD point blank said that AQUAPRIN was ready, everything from past was worked out READY to GO.
Second link shows HOWARD and PHAR for his plant recieved a $336,000 grant for expansion to plant HOWARD states will employ 150 people. Just click on AWARDS an scroll to PHARMSTAR PHARMACEUTICALS.
PERFECT scenerio right there to get going producing several million in revenue and expand and maybe go PUBLIC the right way instead of a crooked shell that HOWARD chose, they didnt choose him..
Most people dont know about this because its secretive as to what happened.
But in your ivestment trading experience dont you question what makes this PUBLIC try so much more likely to succeed than private one,,, when its being NON TRANSPARENT on every proffessional level imaginable.
Really would appreciate your take on this.
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/pharmastar/
http://hartiganmanagement.com/
GLTU
Majority of time it will be a 911 suggestion if needed and leave a number message. He will answer however.
GLTU
I went to PHARMSTAR after they first moved and on Airport Dr NW couldnt see PHAR but lot of greenery then and leaves off now should be able to.
Semi should have been unloading at rear large building at docks in rear.
So you must have drove down in there to see. Just curious to know if vehicles where there and maybe you noticed some activity.
Just would be great to know any more info that brings a little more life to what you saw for those that live too far away and dont get to see plant. Thanks
GLTU
No thanks.. I will stick to the same policies some on the board and yourself get to use if its alright.
The no pics, just believe me rule...Or tremendous amount of activity going on, no proof just believe me.
Hadnt been wrong yet, wont be wrong now. The truth however is just hard to accept. BUT IF PHAR WILL EVER SURVIVE THIS DISASTER, HOWARD WILL HAVE TO COME CLEAN and come forward. I have not wavered from this since mid summer, but he has too many taking up for or sweeping red flags under rug to demand answers.
RESULT =.0011 LOW
The little awareness program going on today wont cut it. Only thing good about it weve got to hear from almost all the mods we rarely hear from.
Truth, nothing complicated about. Got plenty of shares, but thanks for suggestion.
GLTU
Thanks ,tried it. Might be the most number of rings ive ever heard before recording came on. NOT AVAILABLE.
Will keep on trying as we all should to get in on the action going on.
GLTA
SO very true and well written and researched.
It lets you know if these things are indeed happening in this manner there is not a MGT team in place that can see this through even if through the hard earned money of investors that have been torched,,, being used to prop up or put a small bandage on bleeding just to keep trading open for free shares to keep on coming @ 100% profit,, EVERY SINGLE TIME SOLD by some of PHAR behind the scene operators.
If you dont mind call 718-778-1800 and just simply ask for MR.KUPOLUYI .Ask if he or Alert Medical Supply has been or will be a distributor for PHARMSTAR. Ask if he owns or ever owned any PREF D shares.Ask him if he has a distribution aggreement in the 5m range. Very talkative and accent surprisingly not to bad.
Surprising answer of NO, on every question asked ,we only sell medical supplies, no pharmaceuticals.
This is just between you and I if you dont mind. Have to go through this whole email verification process for anyone to believe.
If you cant ,i understand.
GLTU
Do you have cell phone for Howard that you would mind sharing. Janet says he is not in today. Every ext. number called you get v-mail.
That would be great if you have it and share so all shareholders can call and get updated since HOWARD has some great news that if he updated or held a CC it might help PPS,,but for some INEXPLICABLE reason he lets PPS tank and remains so secretive.
Thanks in advance GLTU
There is no wonder the Company is being destroyed if this is the methodology and business practices the CEO of PHARMSTAR uses.
Sending out messages, like you posted, to a mod on IHUB board , might be as unproffessional act of a CEO as ive come accross.
Hasnt addressed shareholders in 7months, but were supposed to believe posts from his chosen few he might or might not contact.
The legitimate shareholders the CEO needs to be courting are the ones that DONT own shares by being open,honest,truthful and show he can run an operation. These are the ones that might can start buying in big blocks with an interest other than dumping right back. You, i and not a single shareholder on board can or will risk any more money on PHAR that will be enough to help. So he needs to attract these but as CEO thats operates in the manner of non transparency,,the bleeding continues..
Amazingly in the definition of fraud , the dictionary im looking at says the following as example of deciept,,one of the main definitions given.
"A fraud was committed by the promoter of that stock issue"
Like it or not fraud is an can be exposed in just about every single PR that should have gotten market reaction and uptick.ROLLBACK, WORLDWIDE DISTRIBUTION, UPLISTING AUDIT, ETC.
If HOWARD CARED ABOUT INVESTORS he would come clean, come forward, PERIOD!!
Since you have this knowledge about PITTERA and you heard through a phone conversation or maybe you visit plant frequently , the board requires verification if you think it has merit and you posted it.
Pittera still being included in key documents in JAN.
FAIRNESS. Look forward to your verification on that . Pittera goes a long way back with McLaughlin and Chambers and WETZ, so maybe your right and maybe your wrong.
GLTA
I did recieve email confirmation this am but ive decided not to post for reasons below.
Surfguys post came with confirmation with plain NO ,which was all needed.
My phone conversation went into many areas, and return email went into many of those areas not directly concerning audit, so IMO both my and your phone conversation, Surfguys posted confirmation and my non posted confirmation im satisfied with. I think most investors appreciate honesty, AND not cover up and hide the facts of whats going on.
GLTU
I can say this with a good concious. I sure would... I would of course eagerly await a PR so as to see market reaction, but i would assume you would never damage your reputation by posting a matter that important if not true...
You would get the benefit of doubt from me for sure. Now if 7months go by without a peep as PHAR/HOWARD has, then that trust would start eroding.
GLTA
Man i would love that, ive got kinfolks in FORT MEYERS i been needing to see. Ill be easy to spot when we meet with my GA Bulldog shirt and cap.
Confirmations coming Snizzle, maybe not in the speed you want as im sure Mr.Labrozzi has more to do than talk about an issue that he wasted time on.
But he really seemed to be a genuine guy and im sure a confirmation is coming. Hopefully you will acknowledge the confirmation and maybe offer apologies for not giving a person the benefit of doubt. We all deserve that.
For somebody like yourself that all the board truly respects your accurate and truthful words,, i will drive to FLA. and get confirmation.
Hopefully all will believe you, or Surfguy. Its frustrating to ask for answers to simple questions and not get them, but yet have to submit scientific evidence if a statement is made questioning the ethics of how this company operates.
GLTU
You will find out soon enough if i make up things. You definitely
could even find out faster than Mr.Labrozzi taking the time to send an email, just by picking up the phone and calling Howard.
Would you be willing to do that?? Thanks in advance and hopefully the written confirmation will follow.
GLTU
You are 100% correct Surfguy. I would be an idiot to make such a claim.
I as well sent him an email today asking him if he would just simply confirm our conversation of not ever being retained by Pharmstar.
Im quite sure he has already addressed the issue with PHAR asking for a retraction or clarification, if he was able to get in touch with anyone. Thats strictly a guess based on conversation with him.
With respect, i think any investor in PHARMSTAR should be able to see that the real legitimate question i raised about issue of dramatic drop since fiscal year end SEPT 30,, is being avoided and a single current progress report is not the answer.
But in total aggreement with your statement, even though you decided not to answer the question raised.
But the kicker for me, if these major PRs and filings have had such a negative impact with most having little or no verifyable validity, what possible good would another PR do to solicit investor confidence and faith that this PR is truthful and can be validated. Period THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM "LIES" IMO
GLTA
Try again on that one, your too smart to answer that post that way.
Go back to just a few short months at fiscal end,( not Dec.)
Let me know why IYO substantial impact PRs had negative market reaction.
I didnt even include the Annuals being filed in Jan.,,, the Articles of Incorporation in Jan.,,,,the Company Bylaws filed in Jan. Just additional items very recent along with 4 major press releases that should have had a positive impact, not a severe negative impact.
(5 )total PRs in Sept 30 -Dec31 reporting QTR. 3 filings in this qtr but no PRs IMO the very fact that KIT Chambers authored some of these filings is more of a killer of new buying power from needed investors than most are realizing or admitt and/ or are willing to do their own DD to understand impact of continued involvement HOWARD as CEO continues with this group, and seemingly to be comfortable with.
After all i say and the way im posting, i just believe in cold hard facts. But contrary to what some might believe, i still think there is hope for PHAR. But its going to take tough aggressive action from investors to see if thats possible to even determine. The rest would be in Howards court of coming CLEAN and introducing sweeping changes with a new MGT team thats skilled in areas that entire PHAR team has failed miserably at. Will take time, but it will die a slow death without it, and the sad thing, IMO ive not seen a single sign of even a desire to change.
GLTA
Im in aggreement on the fact that unsubstantiated rumors/allegations have zero impact on PPs tanking. Investors i think are too smart for that in the overall scheme of trading.
But lack of news as being the problem now i have a problem in aggreeing with.
Since fiscal year end, PHARMSTAR has released 4 PRs to the media that from a trading standpoint as an investor IMO should have given a very sizeable uptick in PPS.
#1-The stock reduction rollback IMO was a huge PR that should have garnerd market reaction. From a confidence standpoint.
#2-Worldwide distribution aggreement with AMS with a 5mil. initial order in works and an investment in PHAR through PREF shares. Should have had positive impact on PPs
#3- Aggressive & swift pursuit to obtain SEC fully reporting status. IMO another PR that by all rights should have gotten a positive market reaction.
#4-The multi-city Marketing campaign which is half way through should of as well should have caused some small market reaction, surely not near what others should have.
But since Sept 30 Fiscal year end PPS has dropped 85%. Would take a 700% one day gain today from the low just to get back to. This has occured as a steady decline while these should be key PRESS RELEASES FROM PHAR.
Not just the ones we know on boards , the new investors PHAR needs, need validity to PRs. Thats the reason for PPS IMO tanking.
NO UPDATES, NO CEO COMMUNICATION AS TO COMPANY STATUS AND NO VALIDITY THAT STATED PRs are in fact more than just typed words.
JMHO GLTA
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=SWRS&id=71437
Already in progress. Aqua products this go round to rob people of their money.
Just right click when you get to link and select document properties and KIT CHAMBERS name pops up.
Pharmstar as well uses KIT in many areas of operation, as im sure you already new.
Take care, GLTU
Hey Snizzle, sure ,i will be glad and see if i could get Mr. Labrozzi to do that in regards to helping ALL PHAR shareholders to see ,those past,present and future.
As you ask i will post when i recieve. Hope this gives you the answer your looking for about audit process.
GLTA
Forgot to answer SEC attorney question.. No
Who is it? All shareholders im sure you agree should know.
Is PHAR being investigated by SEC and need another attorney or is this for matters involving filings,which PHAR states in annuals that PITTERA handles.
Can you give any verifiable proof about OCT 31 PR as to being anything other than just words??
Truths going to come out either way.
You obviously have not been reading same post i have. LABROZZI IS NOT THE AUDITOR FOR PHAR AND NEVER HAS BEEN ENGAGED TO DO SO OR RETAINED BY PHAR.
THAT IS A 100% FACT.
PHAR PUT OUT A FRAUDULENT PR AND HAS KNOWN FOR 4MONTHS THAT LABROZZI NEVER HAD EVEN BEEN RETAINED, MUCH LESS THAT AN AUDIT HAD EVEN BEEN STARTED WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED MID DEC.