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It is amazing the sense of humor that is present, I am down over $200k and somehow I can't bring myself to laugh. I also can't believe anyone continues to repeat the mantra "it is a great buying opportunity", now that amazes me and makes me wonder "who are those guys" from Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid" fame. But it is what it is and I can only blame myself for trusting what LP & LG put forth in their press releases and in their live presentations. And then when you factor in I bought more at $2 and .60C or so I forgot and really don't care at this point. IN my mind it will be a huge right off to be used against my blunder of selling at $10+ and buying it back at $10+ 30 minutes later, what a blunder that was. So I guess I have my write off LOL to be used against my sale. Or maybe I will be taxed twice if this baby goes back up.......I just realized I should sell tomorrow and buy it back so I won't have the problem.
I am so sick of this stock it ain't funny. Every time I see the word "power" or gold(man) I want to barf.
Good evening Branks,
are you still a believe in NWBO's DCVax etc, do you think that the next 30 days the stock will climb somewhat,?
Thanks for what you do,
Afford
I believe that you have consistently hit the nail on the head with your explanations of what could be going on.
All I know is that LP & LG are very very intellectual business professionals as well as learned attorneys and financial experts. I don't think for a moment that I am close to them in the breadth of financial and stock market experience. And given all this wealth of knowledge and experience you have to wonder couldn't they have handled it differently and doesn't the long standing current silent scenario point towards legal defensiveness on their part. Again, the better least said the better mentality?
These are my questions and my opinion but Happylibrarian is certainly pointing the finger accurately imo.
Purr,
but if you ask me, if I were ever diagnosed for brain tumor I would not be talked into going for surgery rush stat, I know the game. You got to a surgeon for a consultation and they naturally want to cut, you get what you came in for, that is the game. And they scare you to death to have the surgery too. The American Medical Association is a joke, all the needless surgeries, it makes me sick. Now if I were to get a couple of bullets into me from a terrorist then you can bet I will be going to one of our nearest hospitals and taken care of by the emergency room surgeon in a NY second, they are the best at saving lives. You can have the rest of the surgeons. Not much has changed since Geo Washington died in 1799, he was killed prematurely by his own personal surgeon, if they left him alone he would have lived until a ripe old age.
I personally believe HappyLibrarian has stated his opinion on our current situation the best...truly very conservative and not "just being a believer".
I am confounded when I read AVII & Pyrr's explanation of when patients get surgery compared to MD & Hopefulsurgeon....how could there be such a disconnect there. I want to believe Surgeon but I also have commonsense and when someone is FINALLY diagnosed with a brain tumor the Surgeons want to Cut and rush the patient to have immediate surgery by scaring them to death. As to getting into trials I also have enough commonsense to understand that it takes a long time to be find a trial and be accepted into a trial.
What troubles me is MD continues to supply snippets of positive info as if all is assured. He is treated like royalty here, why ? I will tell you why because he is providing positive news and is a company cheerleader. He is telling all longs what they want to hear and thus is listened to intently.
What happens if he is proved wrong. Will you all be satisfied with "oops, on to the next stock pick of the year". I must say this seems so far fetched, the only supplied hope comes from MD, and most longs are counting on it. I can't help listen to Austin in the background who was long saying he has heard all this carrot on the stick before, literally for years. So which is LP's M.O. giving the carrot on the stick or giving a real cure for cancer.....I just don't know?
For all the naysayers like China, Step and Ick:
I would not be concerned with the supposed imminent due date in August for the mortgage at Sawston.
Banks will always try to avoid foreclosure at any costs because it moves their assets to non operating which is bad for their books and bad for their shareholders to see. It is also costly for them for obvious reasons. It is just a due date, they still will receive their mortgage payments undoubtedly and all the bank has to do is extend the loan. If for some reason we temporarily stop making a mortgage payment then the Bank will be motivated to change the terms in order to give us time to work things out. This is what banks do, No Bank will rush to foreclosure especially on a property that is so specialized and with environmental issues. We can prove that we are improving the property which adds value to the land and building and the Bank is very aware of this. This is a nonissue, but only the naysayers once again try to make an issue out of it. We are using the property, it is not as if it is in disrepair and abandoned. The Bank originally made loans based on our financials and story, the story hasn't changed and the only thing that has changed is the value of the company which still supports ownership criteria proportionally. After this is just a building on a single piece of land. The building and land has significantly increased in value, the Bank is now better off with their security interest. All the Bank wants to do is keep evryithng going they have the ability to do just that through extensions and reworking the loan which is rather easy.
Mav,
I consider you an absolute intellectual investor, my only problem is when you write, you write so poorly that I have trouble understanding what you say. I want to understand and not assume anything but you write so poorly i.e. disjointed is the best way I believe to describe it that either what you write is just over my head or it is so poorly written that most here don't understand except for you and possibly a few. Please take more time and read as if you are a dummy like myself because i really look forward to your posts hoping that the next time it is written in a way that I can completely and thoroughly understand it.
Thanks
I can only agree with everything that your wrote John, but everything that is written here is total speculation of the part of the members here. Lp has stayed silent throughout imho still maintaining this company as if it were her own private company and that is so very troubling. When she gave snipets in the past she would pay the price from AF&Co each and overtime, sometimes PRing AF&Co with rebuttal and many here agreed with her tactic although some like myself opposed. I would have rather she PRed her shareholders supplying them with answers rather than her detractors, he kind of felt defensive which turned me off.
Now the question is she hiding behind the innuendo of not being allowed to speak due to law or gov't agency or both or her choosing to hide behind the same, no one knows. Is it possible that LG just speaks with a select few here giving hints as we here from MD and others or are we being misled again. I can't figure this all out.
I believe in the science but if the science were as successful as somewhere assume wouldn't we hear that from more patents and the doctors treating them along with others? Hearing from 2 patients and no doctors seems odd?
I was very confused by Dr LL's Youtube presentation and even more confused when it was removed. I was shocked by NW's attack at the company he practically single handedly funded for a year or so. I really believe he did it because he figured he could and that LP would follow lockstep and he had to be equally shocked when she must have rebuffed his demands. Since that would mean suicide for such a little company. I also believe the money mgmt and accounting is horrendous for Lp to find herself in the need to take on such toxic funding monthly. I would be refiing Sawston or using Toucan to raise money like I thought it was designed to do.
I am in the dark, period. I want to believe but at .45C it is simply impossible. I do understand that ARDS supposedly went from an even lower about to an astronomical amount and hope we do the same. I can see an approval doing just that but I also am aware of all the Big Pharma and Big Stock Shorters and Gov;t Agency's attempting to screw us for all the reasons that is apparent, NWBO is a game changer so if we succeed wouldn't it be akin to a lottery ticket and don't we all know what long odds that would be?
GLTA :(
IMHO NW didn't sell for exactly the same reasons no Long sold but that doesn't mean NW knows anymore than us dummies that are long. The smarter thing would have been to sell a long time ago and buy back at these historic lows like a few members advised. It appears us longs think loyalty or stupidity is better than making a buck/greedy.
The few that are still in who haven't sold are the real losers myself included. Even if the stock skyrockets we longs would have been better off. I remember when many are said "don't sell off now, getting back in would be very difficult once the long awaited good news was released' and boy was that the wrong thing to do. There is simply no intelligent justification for staying for the ride crashing down. If it were another company I bet every single investor here would say it was about to go BK, who wouldn't. Only because our blind or unblind attachment depending on our own individual DD are we still here.
And the fact that LP is making a couple of presentations soon doesn't guarantee news since she has been doing that all along and nothing much came out in the last few presentations.
I really don't know what to believe anymore. We can believe MD our latest and probably last cheerleader that everything will turn out fine or we can listen to Ick or Step for the complete opposite. I can honestly say this if news turns out to be bad, our own dear MD will say oops and go on his merry way tweeting about other penny stocks and what not and that will be that.
I am frankly embarrassed regarding my inaction and blind following of LP, and thats the truth imo.
IMHO NW was pointed to NWBO via Malicky. Then NWBO did minimal dd via his staff and went in full throttle due to the UK approval and the previous German approval and $5M grant didn't hurt his decision either. Then when the Phase V report came out shareholders reading the boards probably contacted him and/or Katherine the Wolf got his ear on her experience with NWBO and everything changed, he became very concerned and fear made him panic and panic made him try to force arm the company to clean up its act so he would look good with his shareholders. He lost face when LP said no.
Again this is all my opinion but it explains things very well.
He cut off his nose inspite his face. and with shellack of his financial support we all suffer.
I am long and will remain long until I lose ALL my investment here.
That being said my concerns are the following:
LP is supposedly a brilliant attorney and CEO and NW is supposedly a brilliant stock fund manager, but both are capable of also making equally stupid decisions, case in point NW's iron fist that both negatively affected our investment and his. Who knows what stupid decisions LP has made, she isn't talking so we don't know and that unfortunately seems to be the lawyer's credo i.e. " better less said the better" or "silence is golden" when trouble is brewing.
These two points are what makes me very uncomfortable with my investment . I have seen lawyers go on silence mode way too often , letting the public try to figure out what is going on behind the scenes and I have seen activist shareholders completely blow it when attempting to force a company to do what they want them to do. Both resulting in hurting shareholder's value in the end.
That being said when I read about the exploits of Laiu and Prins I am captivated by their study and work ethic and the breadth of their knowledge and character and trust them completely knowing they are pushing the boundaries of NWBO's vaccine and helping every cancer patient they can get their hands on. Will their work propel our stock against a great deal of possibility brilliant or stupid designs, only time will tell.
Turtle,
you have not said the 50 times. What you have said 1500 times is that this stock is going to .20C.
Chine,
what are you going to say when it doesn't happen?
What is it that you don't get. Austin is attempting to call out the obvious.....this board needs to be fair and balanced and not only the rah rah of cheerleaders saying the Emperor has his clothes on when it appears that sometimes he might be half dressed.
How can any shareholder be confident with this stock, how could any shareholder feel comfortable without info and the only info that he might have is based on intuition or DD that hasn't been corroborated in any way close to certainty.
There is huge risk now, this is no sure thing. The company has been run as a private company from day one imho. Whether the science is sound or not it is all a combo of speculation and snipers from mgmt and from the doctors and the patients. How can anyone be certain of anything.
I want to believe that patients on DCVAX is living longer, i want to believe the DCVAX cures cancer in mice and in humans or at minimum extends human life for a long time without any side effects. If what I want to believe turns out to be true then we all win but if the company is managed improperly then no matter how good the science might be our company won't be able to take it o market and benefit from it's devilment and the shareholders will ultimately end up losing. their investment. Remember good products controlled by bad mgmt is as bad as bad products controlled by good mgmt. You need both firing on all cylinders. I want to believe that the current mgmt is good and can take their product to market, that would be a win for all involved from patients to investors and that is what I am hoping for and why I am in full.
But the discussion here needs to take both schools of thought into account, not just the one side that we all want to believe. How many shareholders have lost their shirts in biotech. I believe Austin wants us to see the good , the bad and the ugly and is willing to be disliked ignorer the bad & ugly get a voice.
What was your point?
Correction: 28k volume not 288k volume.
what is your point now that is corrected for you?
I must say RK and Senti & Evaluate & Doc & MD and many others here are doing some outstanding research and digging to come up with all these valuable pieces of info that seem to be shaping a wonderful ending to a big puzzle. Imagine if this company wasn't manipulated and massively shorted. Imagine if our company was allowed to speak. Imagine if the pps was at minimum in the $5 to $10 range set to go higher. This position we find ourselves now is a mere snapshot of only one moment in time, tomorrow, next week or next month everything could change....for the better. We are not defined by today's snapshot. We have been beaten up, practically driven out of business by a stock market currently designed to squeeze the life/money out of a stock but we are not defined by those events we are defined by what is happening within the company which we are not privy too at this time save for a number of members here who understand the science and are digging relentlessly. I choose to stay focus on what they present.
Thank you guys & gals for keeping the faith!
Mav,
I am a long and in it until the end. But I also have concerns, what is wrong with that. I am not proficient with Biotech or their Science, I am the typical layman that invests due to the righteous cause. My father died recently of colon cancer and I just had melanoma. SO I want to believe. But I am unhappy at the ups crash and feel at times uncomfortable with he way in which mgmt has communicated. I was also once a cheerleader and now I rather be less one sided so not to be later blindsided although at this price I had practically lost everything. So all I can do is watch and wait. I don't understand why you paint a false picture of me of anything other than a scared shareholder who wishes to get out with his money returned to him, at this point I don't have to make a penny.
When I hear Ic say things like foreclosure is imminent and knowing how smart he is I wonder then how he can make such ridiculous claims. I can only surmise that he knows better but wants to paint a far worse picture but why I don't know since I don't know him.
When I hear from a fe members here that our leader only wants to make money here off of her gravy train from some here I again wonder . Don't we all want to make money? I know I do, that is why I am here. And I also want cancer cured, got to believe our leader feels the same. But they are stating that our leader wants to profit over the shareholders and that claim cannot be substantiated at this time, so saying it does;t make it factual.
On the other side of the coin I have to apologize to Turtle because he predicted the pps decline to the T.
I didn't want to hear it and couldn't figure why he would repeatedly state it but it has become fact.
I also have had problems with some of the DD that i did, and DD that you all are aware of showing that certain PR's by our company have been very lets say dramatically written for lack of a more forceful way of saying it. And now that there are no more PR's makes me wonder what is really going on for them to stop the self produced drama, it reminds me of how attorney's coach their clients to say nothing than say something that will get them into trouble.
Whether DCVAx works or not i.e. gets approved or not sitting at .50C per share is a stunning blow and a huge loss to shareholders like myself. And if DCVAX is approved I am certain that we will all be happy in the end no matter what our entry point and our leader will be hailed as a national hero and deservingly so. And I will wonder about certain members here who spread bad news and made false claims. And if this is how the movie ends i will be one pissed off shareholder that is for sure and will wonder the same about our mgmt.
A tough situation to be in for sure. But I can tell you from my experience dealing with HUD and the FHA it is slow and irresponsible and impossible to predict and unbelievable frustrating. It is amazing that our gov't is capable of doing anything when I see how it works internally.
Obviously nobody understand real estate here. One must look at it like the Nasdaq issue.
Assuming a mortgage payment for August is missed. It is typically due anytime in the month, could be due on the 1st, 15th or 30th, who knows. Then there is a grace period of 15 days. Then if it isn't paid a late fee is levied and other than that nothing happens. A notice of foreclosure can take months.
N payment can be made for months. Then a work out can be negotiated and/or a modification if applicable. So the bottom line just as the Nasdaq delisting can take 6-12 months so can the bank.
Why would Foxhound be lambasted for stating his opinion that our company will be BK in2 weeks and Cogate will inherit everything? He is entitled to his opinion. No different than MD stating the ups will rocket within 4 weeks. I look at both statements having some validity. Either we go alone or we go home, heck didn't our leader state exactly the same thing in essence?
Two sides to every coin, and I can't tell you which statement is more correct. I will tell you my opinion, as good as the science could be we are in deep doo doo.
Juno was just recently halted for two deaths and today was given the ok to continue i.e. the halt was lifted by the FDA. Are you not aware of this news?
This is concerning, can anyone refute this statement factually?
I remember , but is this about our company or the biotech industry in general, big difference and i can't tell from that you just wrote which it is. That is why I phrased my post in the way in which I did.
Somehow Avi & Pir were given the keyes to the city here, they also never admit they are wrong.
Optune is a device and not a very user friendly device at that and expensive to boot offering practically nothing, but most important for this conversation it is a medical device and Avi knows this full well since it has been argued here since news of its approval came out. And DCVAX ain't no device the last time I looked, plain and simple. Now if DCvax was really a device then I would be totally wrong, but I am not in this particular case.
I will not argue this obvious point any more, not worth my time, I will just be repeating myself\f, Avi is wrong and if you want to believe the king go ahead.
Both Avi & Pir do not like being proven wrong and will cut & paste one to death to attempt to push, yes push their points even though they have no skin in the game as most here do.
You were already proven incorrect, Optune is a device and thus would not be a competitor as an available therapy since it is in a different classification of therapies, I don't know why you keep saying it os....maybe you just like to argue.
RKmatters already discussed all this previously, why is it now being brought up again as if never mentioned before, or am I misunderstanding something here?
Is this for real?
It feels like they win we lose at every turn. They just cannot lose, period. It seems so one-sided it is crazy. No risk for them, ever, always risk for us. And aren't they supposed be our related brethren if you know what I mean. Why do I feel my company takes it in the shorts every time (no pun intended). But I know I am supposed to keep quiet and hope for the best and trust that my investment is being protected at all times by mgmt.
MD,
your posts kind of remind me of our company's past PR's.
You promise all sorts of things, you allude to a big and great even soon to unfold , you say a very impactful article is coming and then stay quiet about it, then today announce again it is coming soon, just around the corner and we should all wait on it and the good news that is right around the corner.
Wasn't this the explanation for all the previous toxic fundings. I can't help but feel like a horse following the carrot, can you blame me or you just don't see that aspect?
Then you announce that you are finished buying shares, all the way down mind you and yet you don't want any at the all time lows to better your dollar cost ave of .81C? Now would be the time to buy and your aren't? And yet you promise that you are a solid believer and know that good news is imminent. Kind of like saying that the reason our Company is only raising $3M today is because they know goes new is being announced tomorrow and they won't need any more money raised under such toxic standards.
Now you know why I think the way I do about you, like you are something akin to a company promoter, since your message is identical to that of our company.
I hope it all happens the way you guys predict it will but honestly it hasn't yet and as the time ticks by the risk factor seems to go up are and more in an unflattering way.
I am just watching at this point and the wait is very stressful so it is hard for me to be a company cheerleader at this point but once again I hope you are right.
I have to admit my head is spinning today. The shooters make for a good argument as do the longs. Of course since I am a fellow long just not a ra ra cheerleader type like I once was I want the longs t be right in the end.
I just can't wrap my head around .48C, that i just too low for comfort. Will it go down further, prob not but does it matter at this point, we are almost at zero!
I can see that only going for $3M HAS TO MEAN MGMT SEES LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, which of course is good but how many times have they supposedly seen that light troubles me.
If every time line given has been off, through possibly no fault of their own then how can we count on them getting it right this time. When I look back at a year ago when NW was funding everything and anything it makes me feel that mgmt blue it.
I believe mgmt has done some great things don't get me wrong but certain things such as funding is critical for survival and since without survival it doesn't matter how good the product you are developing is there is just no excuse for the company to be in the position they find themselves today. What a dam shame.
But the truth of the matter is I am long and I will remain long and sink with he ship if I have to, sometimes you have to make draw a line in the sand and no matter how often members call me a dumb investor I will continue to hold but boy do I feel like knucklehead in doing so.
To better days ahead........gulp....I hope.
Just my humble opinion here.
Flip,
how about your opine on the current state of the company's affairs , I know you believe in the science like myself but you never comment on the fact that there are many company's with great product potential that fail via mgmt.
Here is what I do know, did you know that:
Purr is the smartest poster on the internet I ever had the pleasure of reading.
Purr is always right.
Purr really believes that he is always right.
Purr is the greatest researcher/doctor/techinican/COO/CFO/CEO out there.
Purr knows more than the experts themselves at NWBO and at every other company he targets.
Purr is a multi millionaire from all his investment picks.
Purr doesn't listen to or need anyone else's info/knowledge/advice.
Purr i superior intellectually than everyone else.
Purr is more logical than everyone.
Purr believes everything that he writes and has only the best intentions.
Purr never lies or would ever think of it to further his goals.
Purr knows all.
Purr wins every argument.
Purr has complete knowledge of everything he writes about or is interested in writing about.
Please tell me where I am wrong with any of the above.
Thank you, just thought you needed a reminder.
Oh btw why is Purr still posting here trying to convince everyone not to invest meant in NWBO and sell their shares and buy CPYRRT?;)
I don't see where she said she has had a recurrence?
Why is no one talking about Flip's FLIP, I find that strange since it is another 180 and then he how he side his new 180 in and quietly disappeared soon after?
As much as I would love to believe MD's 100% assurance what makes his pick so right. I didn't realize that he was the only member who has LP's secret bat cave phone number. Darn I wish I was a cheerleader 100% of the time maybe I would have been given the number too....my bad.
But seriously some supporting concrete facts would be appreciated.....although typically the way in which he writes it is typically opinion over actual facts imho, so it could be disappointing to wait for his response other than he doesn't like me.
Interesting is Pyrr's take on the video of LP talking. Now Pyrr is a psychologist and lip reader along with a voice and inflection expert coupled with monitoring blood pressure . I do not detect any hidden agenda, or subtleties of LP trying to disregard the halt as Pyrr states. Sounds like a nice presentation all the way around. It is interesting because Pyrr mentions how members who want to hold on and believe the best will attempt to make that their reality and yet Prr does the exact same thing as he is critiquing only from the negative stating that LP is hiding and deflecting bad info that she is aware of......rubbish. Purr is of no help with sound recordings that is for sure and for him to come on here as submit that as proof is totally exaggeration and extreme negative bias which is something that i have come to expect from our self annointed savior.
I completely agree with you, AF&Co absolutely knew about this situation going to happen way ahead of time and that is why AF did his thing when he did and the rest of the shorters also snuck in to do theirs. Yes NWBO is out of Russell but that doesn't mean much case in point the Russel neither did nothing to save them. What needs to save them is very great news and I am hopeful that will happen and if it shouldn't then I am Royally screwed and yes pun intended ala Brexit flap. BTW many Brits are now sorry they f=voted the way they did and wish they could take it back. I wonder if another referendum could take place correcting the previous one. Who knows.
Then what was the 1M shares after hours about?
I agree with you, I remember last time this happened it wasn't until the day after also. Someone can easily check it out with the right capabilities. But what happened last time may not be what must happen this time.W ended absolutely verification t be certain.