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That's probably the smartest thing thats been posted here, beyond the ridiculous caffeine debate. And yes, THAT is what I am concerned about. If they don't fix that, they're going nowhere. Sales or not. If they fix some of it, the stock will run. Lay your bets.
I had thought that other posters stated that they amended their statement on SM to say there was no additional caffeine added to the product. Do they need to PR that to run to the 5s or 8s? Highly doubtful. It doesn't matter anyway. We know it has caffeine. We know what the guy originally said. People need to get over it. The stock is holding at 24-25, the company is, on the surface, active on SM. You'll either get your credibility or you won't. The caffeine issue is meaningless to me along with Veal's zeal, mistatements or inaccuracies. I just want HJOE to git r done.
From the simple fact that it looks that way with them promoting the brand on FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc. Is there some sort of semantics we can use to twist that around? Promoting? Pushing? Passing out freebies to the public at events and taking pictures. I don't know what else to call that, but trying to push the brand? If they're taking photos of their 12 packs next to 5HE, I would consider that pushing their brand. I say it and that's enough for me.
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Credibility? This is the OTC and HJOE is a sub penny stock in the OTC market. Credibility and accuracy cannot be linked as synonymous. The fact is that they are pushing the brand. They've amended their statement and regardless of the sentiment, the stock price is holding and basing. I believe there will be a solid run in HJOE should they fix some of their woes, and there are plenty. I think it sees close to copper before it sees the trips.
So what? You think HJOE is the first company in the OTC or any other exchange who hasn't made an inaccurate or mis statement? It's not effecting the SP, it's not effecting the brand push, it's not effecting SHs and it won't make a hill of beans if HJOE solves some problems. If they do, they'll run over some people who are betting against them.
Looks like the minutia is something that people can pile on. This statement,
We saw a need in the market for an all-natural, "non-caffeinated" health & wellness energy product that provides hours of long lasting energy without all of the caffeine and sugar,
can be used semantically to contradict HJOES first statement that no additional caffeine is added to the drink. It's not a non-caffeinated drink. It has caffeine, through other sources that have natural ingredients with caffeine.
Again, so what? The SP has been holding steady. There is some day trading on a tick or two and the chart is developing a nice base in the 222-25 range. All that matters is that HJOE solve a couple of their woes, continue to push the brand and not worry about the noise.
So far, so good.
There cannot be a debate that HJOES energy drink has caffeine. It does. Green tea actually has two other stimulatants as well. Theobromine and Theophylline. Both have the ability to affect the CNS like caffeine. Green tea also has an amino acid that may balance the stimulant effect in L theanine. The first two are also in chocolate. If the company has changed their line to state that no additional caffeine has been added, that would be the appropriate thing to do as there cannot be an argument that caffeine doesn't exists. Be that as it may, who cares. It won't effect the SP, it's not going to effect the branding push, it sure as heck won't effect the cameraman who takes all of the pictures in New Orleans and posts to twitter and Instagram and it won't effect investors who want to lay a bet on HJOE that it makes another strong run back to copper. Heck, it might even go higher if the company solves some of their woes. If a non reporting weed company like THCZ can overcome the skull and cross bones, push the brand like mad and make a nice run to .24, there's still a possibility that HJOE can overcome some of the hurdles and make their own push. Worth it, for sure.
It's about to crumble? Would you care to share when it will crumble so I know how to play the price action. Or, perhaps it won't crumble for quite awhile
I want this to go back to copper as bad as the next guy, but this uptick isn't substantiated by anything. It's unusual. Hype? Not sure? Perhaps some people know some good news is on the way? CEO? Supplier? I won't hold my breath that this stays up, but it sure is nice to see the green.
Isn't it all staged. It's all an elaborate plot in the OTC. 183? Where'd you get that number from? Pulled from the air? They've obviously sold more then that from stocking over 35 stores , a lone 242 on EBay from Santas Outlet and a few sales on Amazon. On second thought, that's probably all fake too.
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I saw that on another message board. Another poster shared it with me. Gotta hand it to HJOE. They're working with some folks to try and push the product hard. I like what they've done so far.
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I think you're wrong and the SP at present confirms that you're wrong. GRCU made the move out of trips on strong accumulation in the 1s. This is base forming with strong bid support. I had thought it might fall back into the trips as well, but I don't see that happening now. If Green Cures announces CEO and/or supplier this month this base can easily catapult the SP back to a copper test. I erroneously thought there was a pump going on. I am incorrect. Something is coming.
Just wait for the fall (autumn). Those same noobie investors will be looking to dip into the sector. Thus, another GRCU run. The base is building now. Already rinsed... Almost time to repeat.
Doesn't mean they can't resurrect themselves sometime down the road. There's a long way to go before this pot boom story is told. At this moment though, agree 100%
No denying the lousy PPS. That's just avoidance. The next run, which is possible, probably will not happen without a CEO, supplier and CBD selling again. That's not a slight against GRCU it's just the facts as they stand now. Hopefully they'll provide some guidance this fall.
I've never denied potential. As long as GRCU stays current and avoids the SEC, there is always potential. I'm not being negative either, just factual. The PPS has been a POS and SH are in the tank, me included. I'm still optimistic that the pot boom will take some of these companies along for a nice ride and perhaps GRCU with it, but at present I am disappointed with their regression.
If you mean fun in terms of having a functioning BOD, a fully stocked website with CBD, a supplier, a CEO, merger, spinoff, then I think the fun will not begin for quite some time. Nothing Cruz has done has been fun. The SP has tanked and left many staring at 90% red, Cruz included. The only thing he's proven, hardworking or not, calling the shots or not, is he has no clue how to run a CBD/MMJ business. Won't be a shocker to find GRCU back in the low trips in a week or so.
Like the fact that they have zero product on allcbd and no supplier and no CEO and more than likely limited revenue for the Q etc. I doubt we'll get anything from him though and am highly skeptical that this current PPS can hold. It's certainly not going to come anywhere near close to the 2s as one poster was speculating earlier.
Yes, we need those left overs to simmer a bit more. I'll be surprised if it advances past the 2s any time soon. Won't complain either.
Typically news doesn't spur a surge, it invokes a sell off. I'm wondering where the pump is coming from? Nothing's been verbalized by the company. I haven't seen any newsletters? The companies been silent for months now. Obviously, there was quite a bit of buying today and volume as well, but that is the only thing that is obvious. Insiders? Maybe? Pending news, quite possible. If it moves this strong tomorrow a pump is a possibility.
On the surface this look like insider buying and what you are thinking; a possible pump. They may know that news is going to drop and they're propping the SP. No product on allcbd, Rico site gone, more then likely limited revenues coming from all botanical does not lead to this type of surge. I can't see it holding long and may allow for some to get out with a bit of recovery. I'll maintain that a fall run is possible with the hiring of a full time CEO, a supplier and some direction and transparency from the company. A tall order. If the first year was test marketing as DTL maintains, which is possible, then behind the scenes work may be ongoing. I Glow will scoff at that, but who knows. Perhaps a move back to copper sometime after the summer.
They've been out of stock for over a month. That means they have no supplier and no way producing product. If this surge is insider generated on pending news, perhaps we'll hear of a new supplier or CEO? Who knows. Just nice to see it green and up strong for once.
Just remember, the news, be it any news will ignite the selling. Know your exit strategy and get back a piece of anything you may be down. You can always re-enter on the downswing. It remains to be seen how long this surge lasts and what it is ultimately based on.
It's all a guess. I know the game. Illusion or not, watch for a fall run.
There certainly is no verbal pump going on with GRCU. We've head nothing from Cruz in two months. If you mean they are creating the illusion of a run through spurts of insider buying, that could be. It does give people the chance to unload if they're tired of holding. I still think Cruz and O come up with something this fall and new investors looking for a taste of this sector grab GRCU. A push back to copper come September/October is not out of the question.
Perhaps and I had mentioned months ago they we would see months of silence and that has happened. If it was to regroup and search/hire a CEO, that'd be a start. A supplier would be next, followed by re energizing their sites. Hard to explain today's strong uptick.
Nice to see a little bump, but the problem remains. There is no CBD on allcbd, thus no sales or revenue being generated. This little bump though proves one point and it cannot be debated. Hire a full time CEO and get a supplier and GRCU runs again. Holding and waiting...
Those are some damn good points. Pull back the vale and let's see what's really going on.
I think I'll double down on HJOE in the 1s and ride em to the 4s. Just fine indeed!
Perhaps, we will see if that's their way. I'm not in HJOE to police or warn investors. I'll leave that to others. Waste of time, IMO.
I didn't coin the term "creative", actually IG pinned that one on them. If they're behind the scenes creating a new
Scheme for investors I'll be happy to profit from it should they do so; and no, financials are not creative for real companies, but for most of the OTC companies, financials and creativity go hand in hand. $HJOE to da moon baby!!
That's how it works in the OTC. GRCU will be back around in some form or another in the fall. Just a matter of playing the price action again.
That won't work Pat. They haven't done anything for the SEC to look their way. They are pink current and I'd guess that they'll file on-time or reasonably close. Fall may bring a new round of updates, or maybe not, but with no supplier, no CEO, and no products on allcbd, saying anything through a typically slow OTC summer isn't the right way to go, unless it is something relevant.
I'd imagine there will be a new round of investors who try their luck with an MMJ play like GRCU later in the year. Any update may push them closer to the 1s, but unless they get serious, which is highly questionable, we won't see much from something that had a lot of potential, for some time to come.
btm, would you honestly update your SHs with that type of SM post? Do you even consider that a way to do business? Why would the HJOE company CEO refer to people here or on other message forums and then label them? This is the type of juvenile stuff I've seen from the company, along with some awful tweets that were butchered beyond comprehension. That's not a business ethic or tactic you use if you're trying to operate a "real" organization. Look at my alias to determine how I may know this. That doesn't mean HJOE cannot answer allegations that what they are producing isn't disingenuous, they do that by filing the appropriate documents, staying current with them, and providing SHs with as much transparency that legitimate NDAs allow (if they exist).
HJOE responding to negative sentiment can just lend credence to the thought process that what you're seeing is not what you're getting. Take for example the pictures from 7-11. Terrific, they've got a few boxes in the store. One store? Five stores? How many? How many boxes? If you're going to be legitimate, provide information to SHs. Is there an NDA in telling us how many cartons were placed in the store? It matters, very much. You see, if they've simply sent three or four cartons, it's going to net them very little in the long run and just shows us an illusion that they're doing business. Now, if they show us case after case in their pictures going into multiple stores, we've got something cookin'. That doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, but you must admit that many of us are in the dark here with simple things that can shed some light.
I don't harbor negative sentiment to the company. Actually, I own shares and support them. As they make money, if they make money, I make money. However, you must admit, they do need to patch up several holes before they can be viewed as a potential, serious runner and threat in the OTC.
They were tweeting all kinds of nonsense and some of it disingenuous and much of it butchered. Stopping was the best thing they could have done. Starting it and keeping it to branding and product is the best thing they can do now. Better yet, they can get their sh- straight and file the appropriate documents to the SEC and stop with the chest-thumping. Tall task. If they do it, fill in the blanks....
Can you imagine if they actually get something accomplished like filing their financials and getting the yield removed, filing the appropriate 8-Ks, audit, etc. That's a tall task as creative comes up with the next round of PRs.
Just as the contrarians can pick apart HJOE for what it will probably turn out to be, why can't the believers tweet and retweet what they want it to be? Their nonsense is no different than the nonsense coming from the other side.
Be careful though, if creative comes up with some good stuff and HJOE fills just one hole, there is plenty of $$ to be made here. It runs before trips.
There can't be any argument. It's reality time. No products on allcbd, Rico site gone, they haven't ever done anything with cbdoil, the CEO turnstile stopped at two, not sure if their fins will be filed on time, and whose going to want to see them anyway, and a whole lots of holes they need to fill with merger etc. The rest of the shares I own are certainly dead money as of right now. We'll see what happens in the fall, if anything, but it certainly doesn't look good.
They were asked to stop because what they were tweeting was a complete butchering of the English language, its was haughty, boastful and in some instances disrespectful. That's not a well-run social media campaign or a professional business persona.
They actually didn't say they were going to stop. They said they would only be tweeting about branding. After that tweet and the uncerimonious and disrespectful final tweet in French, they went dark. Subsequently they dove into the 1s. No shock there.
If someone tells us a new approach will be used with SM, then use it. Don't go dark for a week and expect SH to wonder where you are in a fickle and what have you done for me lately OTC. SH will attribute that to lack of transparancy and the, "ole scammer-roo" thought process will creep right in.
HJOE gets their ship in order, it sales for a bit. If not, the trips won't be far behind. But I do think it tests the 8s again before the trips.
Shame because they did have usable products and some were fairly good as well. Cruz simply cannot run a business. I've been doing it myself for 21 years and progress is moving forward not regressing. Green Cures has been regressing and have been silent for close to two months. I cannot fathom what would be going on behind the scenes during a typical slow OTC season that would promote any interest at this time. I still own shares. I never had the millions that others had and sold some at the apex, but I've lost plenty on the ones I still own. Thankfully, I only gamnble what I'm comfortable losing though.
As I've been saying, the only way GRCU fires back up in the fall is with the hiring of a full-time, dedicated CEO, obtaining a supplier and Cruz allowing those in the MJ sector to run the company. Those are all things I don't see happening at present and they may not happen at all.