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in that case you should have gotte out long ago, ...todays upward movement was great : )
great article, but fyi, bosh and samsung arent on the ground yet in ontario.....and they are not competition for awsl
im confident it will change/turn around soon...this is about to get a big push, imho
I WILL ANSWER YOU POST IN CAPS
SW - please, where do you get your information because it is so fantastical and conspiracy theory-based it should be a made for tv movie.
THIS INFORMATION IS COMMON SENSE...YOU DONT NEED TO BE A CORPORATE LAWYER TO RECOGNIZE JOEL GARDNER AND HIS FAMILY COMMITTED FRAUD
I'll go back and once again and post this:
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Apr 09, 2007 16:00 ETMSE Enviro-Tech Corp. -- Changes to Share CapitalTORONTO -- (MARKET WIRE) -- April 9, 2007 -- MSE Enviro-Tech Corp. (PINKSHEETS: MEVT) is pleased to announce the following changes to its share capital:
6.0 million restricted common shares issued -- as payment in full of $1.2 million for the acquisition of the exclusive USA agent rights to the Hartindo product line from Pacific Channel Ltd.
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At that point, 3 years ago, PCL could do whatever they wanted with those shares.
WELL, NOT REALLY, NOT IF THEY WERE NOT REGISTERED....MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT UP THE SEC....ALSO, IF PCL (JOEL GARDNER) DIDN'T DELIVER TO MEVT WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO KEEP AND SELL THOSE SHARES. ITS THAT SIMPLE.
LETS SAY YOU PAID FOR A NEW CUSTOM MADE, ONE OF A KIND SUIT, AND HAD THE SUIT TAILOR FITTED, AND WHEN YOU WENT BACK TO THE STORE TO PICK UP THE SUIT, THE STORE TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH OR SO BEFORE IT WAS READY. FRUSTRATED, SO YOU GO BACK IN A MONTH, AND THEN THEY TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE SORRY BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH LONGER. THEY TELL YOU ONLY ONE MORE WEEK, AND TO PLEASE COME BACK IN ANOTHER WEEK. YOU GO BACK IN A WEEK AND NOBODY IS THERE. SO YOU GO BACK ANOTHER WEEK LATER, AND THEY GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXCUSE WHY IT IS NOT READY. THEN YOU SEE A GUY WALK BY THE STORE WHO HAS THE EXACT SAME SUIT ON. THEN THE STORE TELLS YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO SHARE IT WITH SOMEONE ELSE. THEY THEN POINT AT A SIGN, WHICH SAYS "ALL MERCHANDISE LEFT IN STORE FOR OVER 3 MOS. BECOMES THE PROPERTY OF THE STORE"....THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IN THIS CASE WE ARE TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS....OBVIOUSLY THE NATURAL THING TO DO IS GET A GOOD LAWYER AND SUE THE BASTARDS.
ITS KIND OF SAD BUT THIS IS THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO.
Who knows, maybe some went back to MEVT managment, some to promotion which would have paid for all those paid promoters such as GenevaBancorp, SmallCap Voice, Shazam Stock, to name a few.
NONE OF THE STOCK WENT BACK TO MEVT MANGEMENT. IF IT DID, THEY WOULD NOT BE SO MAD.
So now, after umpteem PRs and 3 years MEVT, who is obviously not makeing PCL any money, blames everyone else (i.e. the supplier who has proof of only one order ever being made and delivered - MEVT must have had pricing to make that order) and now questions why PCL dissolved and thinks they should get all their stock back?
NOT MAKING PCL MONEY ????? HOW COULD THEY WHEN THEIR ORDERS WERE NOT MET....THEY COULDNT EVEN GET PRICING OR SAMPLES OF THE PRODUCT.
BTW, I still have all my stock at the price I paid. Any chance management will give me back my money as I don't like how the last couple years have panned out either.
UMMM, ACTUALY, I THINK IN AL LIKLIHOOD MEVT MANGEMNT MIGHT END UP GIVING BACK YOUR MONEY AND SOME....RIGHT AFTER JOEL GARDER AND HIS HENCHMEN PAYBACK ALL THE STOCK THEY STOLE...MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS COULD LIKELY HAPPEN.
SW - I pray that if this can go to court that GT doesn't put you on the witness stand.
I WOULD LOVE TO GO T COURT AND TESTIFY AGAINST THESE CROOKS....AS A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO DO
: )
blah blah blah...sorry, but this is tiring.
time will tell
; )
here ya go...
http://www.criminallawyers.ca/resources/findalawyer.cfm
my take on it is that it goes down on low vol, but goes back up on low vol too....when big vol comes in, it will keep going up, imho.
i beleive that time is coming soon.
im not sure if its movie worthy, but i would guess it will likley be news worthy on places like stock watch, and some other stock related web sites...
But if they ever did make a movie out of it, they could always have Ron Jeremy play Joel Gardner since he seems to like going around $crewing everyone.
Yes, it surpassed the 3 years, but again, mevt could never even get a sample of the product, a cost sheet or even lace an order...they/we want their 6 million shares back, since nothing was ever delivered....is that so hard to understand ?
i'm dying to find out if those shares were registered....i really hope they weren't registered...it would sure make this process of getting them back much easier.
mevt911-if they were not regsitered, you and the rest of your family are going to jail, with no questions asked....lol
mevt had paid 6 million shares for the hartindo rights....the 6 million shares were issued to joel gardner, his brothers, his car dealers, etc etc, all under joel's direction...these shares were for the purchase of the hartindo rights....
when mevt ordered product, the product was not delivered...they were given a number of excuses why they could not deliver product...then mgon turned around and re sold the "exclusive" rights, stating that they were co exclusive...the, whole time refusing to give any product...
theres more to the story, and im told its going to unfold.
bottom line is, mgon has been countering any claim mevt has made that they own the rights,...just because joel's payment went through pcl, it doesnt mean that pcl can dissolve, meaning that mevt dont still own the rights...
i think what is happening here is that mevt doesn't want the rights...they just want their shares back...im not even sure the shares were registered....if the shares were not registered, joel and his crew would have to buy back every single share, or go to jail...and seeing how the shares were issued for something that was never deleivered, i dont think it be hard to find a judge tor ule in our favor here, if in fact thats wat is happening....
if this was the case, that would mean 6 million shares would have to be purchased from the open market.
joel had sold blocks of this mevt stock to private people, telling them that "he" had sold the "exclusive" rights of hartindo to mevt...this is a no brainer.
any so caled mileage that was gottn out of the announcing of these rights only enable joel and his crew to sell their shares.....the DTC's will show who was selling...i highly doubt management was selling
mevt911, you know first hand what is happening here so dont pretend you dont.....all i can say is if you sold unregistered mevt shares that your cousin, brother (or whatever joel's relation to you)
the hartindo manufacturer never even provided costing, samples of product to mevt....how can someone accept 6 million shares payment of what might not even had been registered stock, for the so caled rights of something...this is in the bag.
im confident that this will all work out....im confident that we will still get epro shares too...i dont know this for sure, but they will think of someway to reward us.
GLTA.
face it, nobody here cares about your opinion....however, yes, cushman and wakefiled, the feed in tariff, pierre cousin, etc etc etc are all good reasons to have bought this stock...and even morton salt was another good reason to get in, when they had the contract, prior to walking away from it.
it is the short sellers who are taking us to the cleaners, but this will bounce...did you not read the buyins'net report, which utilized finra's own data?....it proves this is all short manipulation...
its likely the main reason buyins was hired was to show doubting ppl like yourself what is happening here...despite this, you still doubt ? ..
this is the real deal, and will be reporting massive evenues soon....theres no doubt in my mind something massive is brewing.
So let me get this straight, now its not a real company either ?...lol
You bes give your head a shake. smoke and mirror companies dont get partners like Cushman and Wakefield, and don't land CEO's the likes of Pierre Cousin.
Do you have inside info ?...who says the company even paid this Ronk guy ?
I could give a damn who Ronk is or what he's supposively done in the past, becuase its just like the shorts to try to smear him, the same way they tried to do to other AWSL managemnt....not to mention, this Ronk guy's software and numbers speaks volumes in terms of exposing illegal market manipulation from short sellers....are you saying the numbers he reported are false ? if so, you can take it up with Finra, because the numbers come from them..
....haven't you noticed that the stock has had only green days since the report went out, even though the short selling volume has dried up....what does that tell you ? its been up 3 days in a row, on the lowest volume days ever....the writing is on the wall.
stocken, do you have any links discrediting Pierre Cousin or David Thursfield too ? ...if not, maybe the shorts need to call their editor to get busy.
Good article you posted Doubloon...really summarizes why we are all here (well most of us...lol)
it was wrote right
: )
its pretty obvious that the short sellers put that article out in an effort to combat this guys services....if i didn't know better, i would say the article was written by thestreetsweeper...lol..it certainly in the same biased spirit
the fact of the matter is, whether ronk is good or bad, his software seems to work accurately....in the last two days, since buyins.net out out their report, we have had nothing but green days...unfortunately the volume has slowed too, but that just goes to show you the volume was mostly short vol.
i also am thankful that finally someone has shown that the standard 120 mil shares reported every two weeks on pinksheets.com was bogus...
if you read other articles on google, you will find out that ronk lobbied for years against short selling tactics...
According to the chairman of the financing company they used, there is more $$$ avail after AWSL use up the "initial" $120 mil
This was his quote on the P.R.....
"We at CanadESCO are pleased to have signed this initial Financing Agreement with Atlantic Wind and Solar Inc. and look forward to a long and prosperous relationship during which we hope to facilitate further funding to support AWSL's long term growth trajectory."
.....David Schenk - Canada Green ESCO Inc.
I did some digging, and it turns out that the chairman of CanadEsco, David Schenk, and the CEO, Oleg Feldgajer, both worked at the Bank of Nova Scotia in Toronto prior to launching CanadEsco....
.....for those of you who don't recall, AWSL's CFO was a director at Scotiabank in Toronto for 20 years, prior to leaving his position to help start AWSL....The saying "It's all about who you know" definitely comes to mind right about now.
I also hear that Scotiabank is going to be starting a fund for renewable energy projects in Ontario in approx 6 months, which also means Royal, CIBC and TD will be sure to do the same.
An update re the FIT program in Ontario and Gov't approved projects....
When the OPA approves grid connection contracts (Power Purchase Agreements), they require another deposit paid to them within a month or so of awarding the initial contract, and apparently a lot of companies, including Ozz Solar (who were awarded approx 140 PPA's) are now having difficulty raising the financings necessary to move forward....if they don't meet the gov't deadline, they lose the contract from the gov't....and here you guys are, pointing your fingers claiming that AWSL don't have contracts....
I love the fact that AWSL had secured their financing first, guaranteeing they wont be in the same predicament...
These other companies are under a lot of pressure to secure funding or they will lose all of their projects..this creates a perfect opportunity for AWSL...they could even possibly partner on projects with some of these other companies, and provide the funding....
Or it would make sense if AWSL went in and swooped up several entire projects from some of these underfunded developers/integrators, seeing how AWSL have been pre-approved on their "initial $120 mil project financing"
I'm speculating, but Anything is possible.
I want to see the same thing gilda...theres nothing i want to see more than thorough financials reflecting some juicy revenues, it will put them in a different league......i'm sure they will get there soon....as it stands, i dont think there have been any revenues yet....in fact, i live in Toronto and despite reading in the paper about all the progress the ontario feed in tariff program up here is making, i have yet to see a single utility scale project installed....i see some smaller projects going up, but nothing utility scale.,...and that goes for any renewable energy company....everybody seems to be in the same boat.
The fact that this company has funding and pojects in place, tells me it wont be much longer.
I also heard some of the smaller RE companies are starting to drop off due to not being able to receive funding etc.....those scenarios could also create more opportunity for AWSL.
ppiper, please read my post again before you start insinuating that the company told me about the emails re joel and the mevt stock...please especially notice the part where i wrote:
"btw, before you accuse me of having more inside info, it was those investors who contacted me and told me that info, not the company"
Even after me writing that, you still implied the company shared the info with me....geeze man, please give it a rest and please quit trying to always twist my words around to suit your own agenda and please attempt to be accurate in your posts...for you to post that is outright misleading readers and is not fair to other investors.
I'm not sure canjoling will do anyone any good,..afterall, I'm sure they want to get things moving forward in terms of audits, revenues, and squeeky clean financials all on their own, without any outside cajoling required ...lol
But the rest of your post was relevant and insightful....if all you really want to do is see the company progress, then i take back 49.9% of the things i have said.
call it dd...and the info i shared here is hardly inside info but nice try......if you call the company, they might even tel you the same thing..
...unlike you, i have a nice chunk of change invested here and want to be able to separate facts from fiction...i put the time in to knowing the truth... thats the only way im going to trust my money where it is..
How many times have you contacted the company, its stakeholders or other long time investors ? i talk to them all regularly, even if its just for a simple hello...
maybe if you did your dd on the other side of the fence, instead of what joel and the gang tell you, perhaps you would be in the know too
joel will outright lie to you....thats what he does....if you don't take my word for it, ask the guys who he sold blocks of mevt stock to,...fyi, joel told those same guys that he had sold the exclusive rights to the hratindo line to mevt, and that the stock was going to be worth a fortune....if my memory serves me correctly, it was approx $500k worth of stock at that time.....btw, befre you accuse me of having more inside info, it was those investors who contacted me and told me that info, not the company...they even sent me the emails from joel saying the same thing....this guy has made many enemies....of course if forwarded those emails to the company....theres also another guy on another board who gained the same type of info from another investor who joel burned....these boards are amazing and can really serve a function...
also ppiper, you wouldnt happen to be the same poster as mevt911 would you ? your writing style is very similar
mevt911, it had come to my attention that you had sent emails to MEVT management's partners in their other deal... Apparently you wrote a long email to this partner and tried to convince him he should rethink his partnership with trahan, because Trahan was being investigated for fraud....you backed up your allegations by providing this partner with a link to the streetsweeper article......Dude, FYI, management and/or Trahan is not being investigated for fraud, or any other crime for that matter, thereofre it was totally out of line, and completely unethical to do that...thestreetsweeper article didnt even come out and day that....it was written in a way that only implied that....
....for you to have insinuated this while attempting to insert yourself is simply going way and above beyond the duty of any so called mevt investor's role ......that guy didnt even have anyhting to do with mevt, so why contact him in an effort to interfere and cause trouble ?......, its as bad, if not worst than thesteetsweeper trying to imply something fishy was going on...at least we know thestreetsweeper works with the short sellers (ie Timothy Sykes, etc) therefore its pretty clear what their intentions were when they went to the trouble of writing that article....
After you to go to these great lengths to try to do damage, what is anyone suppose to think or believe re your intentions here ?....you surfaced right around the time when all of mgon's guys came on this board and started bashing the company regularly ....in fact, it was the exact same day that you showed up...but you havent left since...its been months and months....and all of our first posts were negative....are we to believe you invested the same day you started to bash ???
..but more importantly, what were you thinking when you contacted this other partner in awsl?...did you think if you somehow damaged the other deal, maybe management would pay more attn to this deal ?......or were you thinking you were doing more of god's work ?...it simply doesnt make sense why you would do that, therefore i believe your motives here are not in the best interest of anyone but yourself... ....you sure do spend a lot of time attacking this company....i think its safe to say, the writing is on the wall.
Its kind of ironic how the person you chose to send that email to, in an effort to cause trouble for management is now the one who is in trouble.
The funny thing is, from what i hear, this partner put you right in your place.....hw wanted to know why you had so much to say, but chose to keep your identity hidden....i also hear that you refuse to give your real name any time you contact anyone from the company....apparently you are the only so called "investor" in the history of the IR company who does that....why do you hide your indentity, even to the company ? Again, its pretty obvious your intentions.
it simply doesn't add up in my, or anyone else's books....
I laughed when you made the statement in your last post that schmedro and myself are childish... you best have a good look at yourself here amigo...the games you play are simply unacceptable.
you're right, im starting to reevaluate what i said earlier re you wanting to destroy mevt....its pretty clear now that you are more about seeking some sort of revenge against management...if you have some sort of personal vendeatta agains them or him, leave our investment out of it and settle it like a man...
Anyone reading any posts of yours should be aware of this before placing any due reliance on anything you say.
GLTA
Again, how man times do we have to tell you...this is a start up company....investing is based on speculation.
At one time RIM, Google and Yahoo were in the same boat.....we have told you that several times, but yet you persist..
Gilda, you would have had a hay day with Youtube, due to the fact that they never made any profits, yet was sold for around $6 billion or something like that.
you just cant seem to grasp this concept....you sound so logical, therefore does it not strike you as odd that you spend so much time on a penny stock investment web site, but yet can't grasp this concept of speculative buying....thats what this is all about.
but if you flipped it at the $4.84 range, you wouldn't have received your divi...but i do see your point,....i wish i had a crystal ball too...
tell me something, do you believe this company will up list sometime soon ?
what kind of revenues do you see them doing in the future ?
Based on your projections, what do you think their share price could reach if they were on a half decent exchange ?
Do you think this Pierre Cousin CEO guy would have stepped in if there weren't some pretty big things lined up ?
I'm told that the new CEO only wants to announce big news after it happens....no more pr's about what the company is going to do until it already happened.....if that's their attitude, its more than likely that some big things are about to happen.
Seeing how he turned a company around from multi million dollar losses into a $2.4 bil company in only 5 years, i for one trust he knows what he is doing....storage tek's shareprice went from $8.00 to $43.00...and that was a business that had huge overhead...completely different business model than this sector.
AWSL has all of their funding in place.....a steady pipeline of rooftops, and are in the process of finalizing the acquisition of AIM....this is about to go from 0-100 very fast. IMHO.
its not even a jealous rage, but im sure thats part of it.....i truly believe they know they will get into trouble re what mgon have done here.... You can rest be assured they will be investigated as a result of what they did to US mevt shareholders... IMHO, they are likely already being investigated. The investigation into joel gardner likley started the second joel picked up the phone and called the sec.....he likely picked up the phone right around the time al the words were going back and forth on ihub here, and the yahoo boards....he likely assumed if he was the first one to call the sec, he would be forgiven...i'm pretty confident im right on this one...
people might think i shouldnt go on and on about this, and to leave the mgon situation alone, but the fact of the matter is, mgon cost me a lot of money...they cost my friends and family money, and they cost the rest of you mevt investors money too.....im not blaming them for todays delays of epro, but they do have a lot to do with todays shareprice.....rest be assured, a lot of shares were dumped on us in spite...and those shares were for the purchase of a roduct that they claim we dont own......im confident that this will all get fixed....but what really pizzes me off, is when certain people post here every day, bashing my investment, which im convinced are these exact same people from mgon, who already stole from us... the very same people who already cost me are here every day, making up lies, likely partially in an effort to sway you, and the other part likely in an effort to ease their own conscience.
i bet you, they are already under investigation from the sec....and thats all im going today about that.....if this is accurate, there are a number of ways this could help us here in mevt.
he isnt even a short seller....his whole intention is to make trouble for mevt....anyone who read thestreetsweeper article would have read that joel gardner himself claimed he called the sec on mevt management....who does that ? this is one scared individual, who knows he is in a lot of trouble...he tries to sabotage mevt, in hopes to cover up all the wrong doings he has done to the company...he hopes if he destroys it, his wrongdoings will be forgotten....he believes a good defense is a strong offense....he was obviously sniffing some strong glue the days he made that decision...lol
who else goes to this much trouble in an effort to cause damage to a company ?...the writing is on the wall.
the good guys always win...you'll see
if i didn't know better, i would say someone here is sure trying to paint an innocent picture of MGON....and boy, do they ever spend a lot of time doing so...even though mevt is no longer dependant on mgon for anyhting, i wil let you in on the truth, and you can decide for yourself...
How does anyone on here know if mevt has any legal claims against mgon, unless hey are part of mgon ?
you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that mevt was ripped off from joel garnder re the hartindo rights..the original contract shows mevt as being the "exclusive owner" to those rights for 6 million shares of mevt.....joel tried to imply afterwards that he meant co-exclusive rights.....there is no such thing as co-exclusive rights, and who would pay millions of dolar for co-exclusive rights to anything....thats like paying millions of dollar up front to be alowed to sell a product that everyne else is selling...it doesnt make sense, and any judge would come to the same conclusion...
...MGON couldnt distribute those same rights to others after mgon's own ceo signed documents stating that the rights were exclusive (directors of pcl included) and pcl is not allowed to shut down after and say "ooops, sorry, we have shut down so now you dont own those rights anymore"...it doesnt work that way......joel gardner had arranged that payment method through pcl, and he also announced a pr through mgon, stating he was made a director of pcl....the last time i checked, directors are personally responsible for what goes on in their companies.....but he thinks he can hide this way...lol.....again, joel was personally paid mevt shares through pcl...there are many records and other things proving this......there is all kinds of proof to this....i know of 2 investors who purchased shares of mevt from joel gardner "directly", right after he received them from this transcation the records at the transfer agent dont lie.......he told both of these investors that mevt just bought the exclusive rights to hartindo, from him, and the shares are going to sky rocket..(this is in an email from joel, to two people)....thats the emails these guys showed me personally from joel...pretty incriminating stuff i'd say.....the guy was saying all this as part of his pitch to sel them the stock.....this will all come out in the courts, you'll see...btw, its really not that expensive to hire a lawyer to prove this,especially with the amount of evidence/paper trail gardner left.... but i can assure you, it will be expensive to fight it...lol
Its pretty obvious what is happening here, and what certain posters objectives are....i'd be scared to, if i was joel.
This all has no bearing on mevt today, it can only help mevt....mevt has a prety darn god case against this joker, but yet this joker and his family are on this board every day, bashing this company. Doesnt make sense.
i guess when you have multi millions of dollars like these guys, thats entirely up to them.
...and why would they be in trouble even if they did reverse engineer it ? there was no patent on it. Isn't that what a patent protects ?
Lets be real here, even though they owned the rights to the hartindo product, they could not purchase the product to fulfill orders....when they placed orders , the orders were not filled....thats why they proceeded to make their own product over 2 years ago.....as soon as mgon sold the same rights to another company, i assume mevt managment knew to move forward with their own product.
mevt911, im glad you raised these issues/questions....tell me, why do you think these guys went to the great expense of making their own product ? and while you're at it, why do you think they were confident enough to alos purchase the new BB vehicle ? .....as far as i'm concerned the only reason you spend all that time and money to make your own product and buy a new fully reporting vehicle is if you have lots of potential sales lined up your back pocket, ....these guys have gone through the ringer with mgon etc, yet they still push on. Why do you think they keep pushing on ? What is the main motivating factor ?
IMHO, its likely all the sales they have lined up.
And YES, they have made the product BETTER..apparently there is more binding agent in it, which makes it stick to upholstery, wood, etc "BETTER"...not to mention i heard it is much cheaper than having to go through all those other middlemen....that will likely mean they can sell it at much more competitive pricing, while maintaining the same mark up....that has to be good for sales too.
hehe
i believe he misinterpreted what trahan had said. When i asked how megola was involved with AWSL, I was told they were not involved whatsoever.
i have watched a couple of other deals uplist to the big boards in the past...if i recall, it took approx 3 mos from the time the final SEC audit was completed and submitted. ..
Does this sound like a reasonable time frame to uplist from the audit submission date ?
that sounds like a reasonable time span to really see some progress.... good post
good post
in that case im glad to see the new ceo stepped into "the other company",...this might free up some time for managemnt i epro and mevt...lets face it, it sounds like epro and mevt will be one company when this is complete.......who knows, maybe we could even expect to see some big talent step into mevt/epro too...but i doubt any big names would want to step into a deal in this condition, ...actually, its very rare to see a big name step into a pinksheet company ever...that says something about management's capabilites in "the other deal"....hmmmmm, all the more reason why they might have decided to upgrade mevt into a new BB... ..lets face it, the market potential for this product has not changed, its still huge.......oooops, thats looking out long term, sorry about that.
sometimes public companies can't always tell you why, exactly when you want to know ...in this case, i think i spelled it out a couple of days ago...its pretty obvious that they put the forward split on hold, in view of the new BB company/vehicle coming into the picture...again, i would prefer a bb company oppose to a forward split......think back in terms of timing, by the time they decided to not move forward with the forward split, they likely had just secured the puchase of the new BB shell.......i wish we had a little more notice too, but who knows what the issue was.....if you recall, at that time, the name change had not taken place on the bb company yet...it was still a health care company......if they publicly announced that they were taking over that health care company, it would have confused the heck out of investors....who knows, maybe after we get shares of epro, maybe they will still do a forward split...the fact is, sometimes its best not to say your next move, especially with so many shorts hovering the deal. ....i think its safe to say that management genuinely wants the share price to go up, and really dont want people to lose their money....i also think its safe to say that management will keep moving forward, despite any obstacle that falls in their way....its been a hell of ride here so far,...and there has been many obstacles, but yet they keep pushing forward.
i for one am looking forward to when epro starts to trade.
Read your post again....it makes absolutely no sense at all......FYI, some people use these message boards as part of their due diligence process, in order to stay in touch with other common investors in order to give and receive dd re their investment. If people did not utilize this medium to assist with their dd process, there would be no message boards. Therefore I'm not sure what you are saying...Correct me if I'm wrong, but everyone on this board likely learned about MEVT through IHUb, including you....so again I ask, what significance does your last post have ?
But in some part I do agree with you, because OBVIOUSLY a lot of the info found here is not reliable.
According to Finra's own web site, here is what happened today:
Short Volume = 8308
Total Volume = 16141
Therefore over half the volume today was short....that explains the bid whacking.
Here is where you can see this info for yourself:
http://regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20100426.txt
Just change the date, from day to day....I highly doubt Finra is lying about this info.
the fact of the matter is, i wont be buying the shares back cheap, because i don't believe it will go down that far before things get fixed here...if i came across as arrogant to the board, my attitude was not directed towards the entire board....it was directed to one person in particular who's posts did some damage.
i agree, negative talk does not help anything
well i guess since you "toss around a lot of money on investments" it likely doesnt bother you when people make statements on here that cost you directly as an investor money....i on the other hand cant afford to take hits like this and care about whether or not others on here have an opportunity to sell today or tomorrow if they so chose to do..., and my own family who i have also recommend the deal to might also like to sell if they choose, so please dont get behind these negative posters who post outright untruths...
furthermore, the fact that management have invested million here wasnt meant to minimize your investment or any others....it was meant to show you that they are in deep, just like everyone else is and will follow through in making this happen....does anyone grasp that concept ?
...for you to try to suggest that i am thinking that i am more important than anyone else just because i am also invested heavily here while being pissed off at what reckless people are saying isnt even worth me commenting on.
lol...you seem to have it all worked out dont you...lol...you really have no idea do you.
so if management who is lying is just transparent, a wave of volume will miraculously come in...lol...dont quit your day job.
in the meantime, i will be here ready to buy your shares at .02 cents...then by then hopefully epro starts to trade....in the meantime, you keep posting and driving the price of your investment down....cuz you're doing a great job.
i suggest the next time you invest, you invest short....you're great at it...lol
thank you , you hit the nail on the head when you said "this is the pinks and investors dont trust it until they get off of the pinks", and thats the very thing management is doing for us, or do you fall into the category of preferring a forward slit to have fixed everything...
fyi, if investors dont trust a particular exchange, they really shouldnt be investing in any company's on that exchange....i dont beleive its up to the company to constantly prove themselves....these guys know their objectives and have already proven themselves IMHO.......if investors dont trust management because they believe management lied, hell, they should sell their shares and get on with their lives
...at one point in time, everyone here who invested through their connection to ihub had faith in this company...nothing has changed re the direction from the company,...there was a bunch of promo done which didnt work out very well from the looks of things, but that didnt mean the company gave up forging ahead on their corporae objective......granted there has been many delays, but all of us have watched epro's filing get posted, most of us even watched the first day they got their new epro symbol.....step by step, its coming together.....do you guys realy think they have decided to not move forward now ?..again, we are all waiting for it to become DTC eligibe before it will trade....im sure if there was a quicker way, they would have done it already.....
fyi, the company cannot put out a pr stating anything about shares being issued until there are truly shares in the system to issue....what more do you want them to say now ?
if you truly respect these other mevt investors, as you claim to, you might want to stop publicly posting that management are liars, blah blah blah, because you are costing those people you claim to respect so highly their hard earned money....fyi, this board gets a lot of traffic, mostly from people who don't even post....do you really think someone doing dd on mevt would want to buy the stock after reading any of your posts ?....and if no one else is buying the stock, how the f do you think volume will come in, how do you think any of us will have the opportunity to sell if we choose to....does this even resinate with you or is this over your head ?
in the meantime, keep sharing your twisted novice knowledge of mevt and investing with everyone, and who knows, maybe we can see .01 cent soon.
sheeesh..., i suggest you reread my post...i couldn't have been any more clear when i stated each and every dollar invested in this company is as important as the millions that management has personally invested....go back and read my post, then read your post to me....how the f did you get to that conclusion ???...if you somehow miss my tone even when i spell it out so plain and clearly, its no wonder you are misconstruding the entire picture here....again, you are completely missing what i set out to say today....keep making posts like that which are totally unfactual, and keep posting every day baout how mangemnt lied about a forward slit, meanwhile they replaced the forward split with a new public fuly reporting vehicle....but you can only blame yourself for the declining share price in that case...
again, i have invested a lot of $ here....pls refrain from posting your twisted versions of the truth....you are costing the rest of us "investors" money.