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We can only hope he played hardball against the 13 and didn't give up the farm.
Couldn't Billy (UOIP) still sue the others on our behalf as a private company and receive dividends until the patents expire?
The dollar amount of the settlement has already been discussed between the 2 parties. Is Billy somehow going to call a shareholder meeting and get our approval. (that's a laugh) I can't believe anything that is said on this board will have any influence over those numbers. The only thing left is to make sure we fight tooth and nail to get that damn waterfall cancelled.
Thank you.
It's not about a 12x return. It's about the magnitude of the infringement.
Sorry ZW, but I agree with the rest. The word "happy" and ".125" should never be used in the same sentence on this board. Waaayyy too low.
4-6 billion without the waterfall? Sounds great. Can’t wait.
Is that 500 million diluted being added to the presumed 1.6 billion making the total share count 2.1 billion?
This article was from March. I would hope those numbers haven't dropped drastically.
Not sure why. But you are one of the main links in the chain (which I extremely thankful for) who is adamant about getting quick proper representation. Maybe he wants to stall your progression. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him.
Why send it privately? Post it here so we all can see it.
Did you ever get a straight forward answer to your question to jbbb?
Which makes me agree all the more that either he's not a very bright individual, or there are more cogs in this wheel that we are not aware of yet. I think someone on this board already pointed this out.
"The only motivation for allowing de-listing was to avoid disclosure of the waterfall thing." This should be put up on a billboard and hung up in front of Billys address.
I agree. Press forward and get the truth before we run into a roadblock.
More riddles.
You're right on that. He would have been a very wealthy man if he had just let everything run its course. I also believe Billy is only being "nice" as a stall tactic. He has money, and possibly his freedom on the line. Nice is for suckers. I say full steam ahead with lawyering up and stop everything in its tracks until we are satisfied with the outcome. He is not a trustworthy person no matter how cordial he is on the phone/texts.
Remember that 3-6cents a share would be peanuts compared to what he would get with the new waterfall. Plain and simple theft if that was the the plan.
If he did succeed in dumping most of his shares over time, then he stands to lose a decent chunk of change if the new waterfall is cancelled. Why would he ever negotiate a peaceful settlement with us shareholders if he stands to lose all those shares? Also does anyone remember at what point uo!p was created? that may give us a starting point at which he first may have started dumping his shares? (if that's actually what happened)
I think I would rather have Billy put out a pr himself stating that indeed all shareholders in uoip will receive their fair share of the settlement and that the new waterfall agreement is null and void.
Lol. Lets not go there.
Then tell us how Billy got the authority to create a new waterfall.
Why does someone who supposedly owns millions of shares feel the need to defend Carter? Don't worry people... he has a promissory note which he might, or might not honor. Ridiculous!
"Involved in the final settlement". Yes, the new waterfall has us involved. What we need is to get that "new" waterfall thrown out completely. Carter can pay off HIS waterfall with HIS part of the settlement.
If Carter looks like a duck (creating his own shell company) and quacks like a duck (creating a new waterfall) then he probably is a duck.
I'll help any way I can. I have 500,000 shares. How and where? Facebook link not working.
I did
It would be good to hear something....anything about Linden.
I agree that the math a easy. But this is settlement negotiation. Will they offer 60 million? Probably not.
Do you see a Linden labs settlement having enough ummph to get us all the way up to a dollar? Some on here have been thinking that a Atvi win would have boosted us up between 2-4 dollars (that's with billions at stake) I didn't think Linden was that big of a fish.
I was thinking the same that the volume too high for a dead cat bounce. But would Thom really do that to the loyal shareholders after all these years? Dumb question. According to Gordon Gecko. Greed is good.
Volume does play an important role in things. Could this be a dead cat bounce? Are settlement negotiations really still in play? And why, if all patents are considered dead for the time being? There's really no way of telling what the volume is for. The only people who know how this plays out are the insiders. I wish I was a fly on the wall during some of the negotiations.
High volume and a pacer on the same day makes me believe that the pacer created the excitement. I might want to believe that it is about Linden and an already signed deal, but that would just be speculation and wishful thinking.(been doing that for about 10 years now) I'm done doing that. I sold some and still have some in the tank just to be on the safe side.
Casper invalidated all claims. It makes sense to suspend the lawsuit until the appeal is complete. I'm not sure where the word settlement came out of any of this. Maybe the word "appeal" triggered all this volume.
Where’s our pr?
The question is... What is fair market value of our Marimed holdings? That's where we could start at a valuation.
Ever since the Obama administration revamped the patent universe to favor efficient infringement, it's always been an uphill battle for the little guy to defend their property rights. I called it a lottery ticket based on the "Judges" who make the decisions.(she is a Obama holdover) Not based on the validity of the tech. Like I said earlier, To me, this ruling sounded more like her opinion. And I do hope Thom appeals this quickly. But we would be crazy not to expect a huuuuge drop in the pps in the meantime.
I love your optimism. Most here understand that this has always been a lottery ticket with the numbers mostly landing our way. But this was not what any of us expected. Especially with the extraordinarily long delay on the 101. What the hell is she thinking holding off for so long only to Rule against us.(talk about not doing your homework during covid) I hope to hear from Thom real soon to get some clarity on the direction they may take. Glta.
Why did the Magistrate deny deep discovery of atvi? Perhaps Casper knew what her decision would be quite a while back and gave him a heads up that it would have been moot to continue. And why release this news on a Friday after market close? It almost feels personal that Worlds was just a thorn in her side that she wanted to get rid of. Also, the case she sites (bascom) sounds more like she's voicing an opinion, similar to the playbook of the judge in the vring case.