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Personally I would not even respond if the post was not trying to pump it up so it could be deleted.
I would not even use the negative word on this board personally. 100% accurate is what I want. That's what revisions are not!! That is why I do not like them. I want accurate, 100% met or better.
When you post it you have to understand that if members strongly disagree with the post, you'll get this type of interaction.
And Vice Versa! I am not into posting that is pumping up a stock to sell shares or watching my investment faulter becasue we do not attain the projections that are given.
Agreed on this last week. But it keeps coming back and I do not want it to.
Mine came through on Ameritrade last night as well. Yahoo!
That's what I did not want. Sorry guys!
Lets highlight this some more!
IT WAS THE LAST 3 Q'S WITH THE MAJOR ANNOUNCEMET THAT NEVER CAME!
But we continue to get announcements that do not happen with Bravada it seems.
Should I name them here and will this help the stock or can we let it go?
Response will let me know which way to go.
I tried to let this subject go last Thur or Fri. But when I get responses to it, like all, I am entitled to my opinion. Because it might differ does not make me a bad person. I just want facts like Google Adwords.
I do not want revised numbers that we for the last 3Q's have not hit. Believe me, if we do not hit them this Q either, there will be a lot of noise on this subject.
If DA revises them prior to the begining of the Q and we have surpassed the previous revised Q numbers, then that is fine.
But when we have not done so for the last 3 q's. That is not a good history to follow.
As long as sets them at the end of Q3 and does not revise them again to fall short of them.
Just beat them by many $$$$ as I know Bravada will one day do. Jus do not fall short of the mark.
One more time!
I agree with projections. They are a fact of business.
I do not agree with revising them and not being able to meet them as we have not met revised numbers for the last 3 q's. That is my gripe.
Just leave the original numbers in place and surpass them by a bunch and make surpassing the numbers as the history of Bravda.
Please let this go. It is not worth mentioning anymore.
Someone PM this guy and get it off the subject of not meeting the revised projections in the past. That is what I was posting about and the supposedly great news.
I do appreciate more PR's of facts like the Adwords numbers.
Can you just let it go! It keeps being brought up and I will continue to respond,
I DO NOT LIKE REVISED NUMBERS THAT WE DO NOT HIT AND HAVE NOT HIT IN THE PAST.
Just leave the original numbers in place and surpass them by a lot and make that the history of Bravada.
Taki--I agree with this post. Estimates are the best. So set it and forget it. Hit them and surpass them by a bunch of $$$$$ and this continues to climb as it should.
I totally agree as this was a Great PR of Facts that we can take to the bank of Bravada.
In fact, I look forward to revised projection for Q4.
Who is Most? If the revised projection is down, you would look forward to that?
I do not look forward to revised projections. I look forward to Bravada hitting the mark or surpassing the numbers. I do not like it when we fall short of projections.
If we are to belive what was said in 2009 by the post, then were are the financials and dividends.
Where are the current dividends? Any news on them yet? I do not have mine!
Thank you Missy! I would be more than happy to let it all go just from what you said and I will.
The post replied to was of attacking the CEO. My intentions are not to attack DA. They are not attacks what so ever, just other suggestions for what should be done IMO. Then because they are different than a certain poster, all of a sudden I am attacking or bashing.
Who wants financials if we accept figures that are made up. We want financials to see what it really happening. We want to be current on Pink Sheets, why? Why be current? Because it is fact when filed.
Projections can be revised YES! But when in the past, the revisions are not met, the PPS drops. That is why I continue to say, beat the original projections by a lot.
This response stirs it up. Follow the thread on where the post came from and the intentions of them.
Not rehasing issues to me, but just to issues that are brought up. There is a difference.
I continue to say, no more major changing events that do not happen and cause the PPS to go lower. Just beat the original projections by a mile and make that the history of Bravada.
Totally agree, but someone brought up the battle again.
And some keep bringing the subjects back up instead of letting them go away. Can it be imagined by anyone that would like to rehash up stuff like that?
I know they will be stated. I just do not like it when DA revises numbers and we do not hit them. The stock tumbles down.
I imagine a PR based something like this:
Increased Sales Numbers over the last month to month by X $$$$$ and with the coming months ahead will continue to see increased sales numbers going into the holiday season.
Just give me facts and not hype.
I was asked what I would have done. If the thread was followed you would have seen that.
Projections should only go out 4 times a year as well and not revised up when DA wants to pump the price up to then dilute as we tumble farther down when they are not met. Ya Dig!
See the evidence of that happening?
And I can agree with this also Kaos! Just keep it real and hit the mark or surpass it.
Don't revise it up to pump it up and then miss the mark and all will be well.
I would have posted actual sales numbers. DA based the revised numbers on something. The issues have been, while he makes these revised projections, he has not hit them for the last 3 Q's.
When a company does not hit the projection, it takes a tumble as has been the case with Bravada. That is why I would have rather had actual numbers or left well enough alone.
I would prefer Bravada be known for always beating the projections than revising them to fall short and not meet them.
He based the revision on what could have been proven but chose not to.
What ever the case, it was not great news, but a forward looking statement of DA's that has not come true in the past.
Does anyone know of the projected IPO date for Tsingda? Has that been put out or was it just sometime in Sept?
And again I ask, why unproven projections when DA could have easily PR'ed current sales numbers to show that we actually surpassed the numbers.
He had to base his projetions on something. Why no use FACTS instead of projections?
I say if they are not in the account by the date specified, then watch for more complaints. If EMXC wants the complaints to end, then its simlple. Pay the TA to get them done and follow through on promises.
If this board does not like the complaints, then sell or Don't Sell! These things have taken since 2003, so taking time is correct. LOL!
Because the TA still needs to be paid for doing the work.
Just mailing them or how ever they were sent, does not make it done. So EMXC is safe when they claim that they have been sent and that the TA has received them.
No where do we know that the TA has been paid for there work to get them out. That is the issue to ask about.
Dividends are a VERY BIG ISSUE. Getting them out creates a trust in EMXC for what they have failed to accomplish with past promises.
This was info back in 2008 that never came to be as he was supposed to pay the dives and never did. So Rox took it back!
Apples do get eaten at times. There is always room for competition in any industry. Apple is big, but little bites all around the edges make it go away.
Just like Apple did with their competition at one time.
What a terrible recording of the song. Cannot even hear the words being overpowered by the music.
The exact same thing in 2003. Now you are feeling the same way I have felt since then. Gets frustrating and that is why the divides are important as getting them out means follow thru and builds trust.
The Divies are a VERY BIG Issue. It's a matter of honoring a commitment made to shareholders and proof that EMXC is actually doing something that they have promised from as far back as 2003.
As long as this hangs over the EMXC head, we are stuck in this muck. When if is actually done, then we will move forward.
He was the CEO at one time pending him doing certain things. To which he did not and Roxi became the CEO again. This was about 3-4 yrs ago.
I totally agree with the Google Adwords Campaign and really appreciate those types of PR's. It was based on Facts and DA did a good job on that one.
Bravada has increased Q to Q sales and that is a good thing. Loking forward to hitting the numbers this Q as well.
And the same reasons that you are getting the ones you are getting from others. Back and forth over the net we go.
Let's just drop it and keep the hype to facts and not forward looking statements.
So at what point would you stop believing in the CEO?
After how many promises and statements that did not and have not come true would you start wanting only facts of what is and not dreams of what might be to only fall short?
Just as I do with those boasting about something that has not happened.
I deal in facts and not promises.
I have hopes for the future, but base those hopes on facts and when asked about those facts, that is what I post. Not paint a rosie picture of what we have not been able to meet.
Why is it that it would be believed that I want BRAV to go lower? Why? And be at a greater loss than where I am at now? How much more do I want to be down? The logic does not make sense.
I have over 3 mil shares at .0035 and I WANT IT TO GO UP!!! THAT IS WHY I WANT REAL NUMBERS THAT WE MEET, NOT ONES THAT WE HAVE NOT MET IN THE PAST.
GET IT! LET'S MOVE ON AS WE ARE BOTH DRAGGING THIS DOWN. LOOK AT THE PPS! EVEN IF THIS GOES TO .0001 I DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO BUY MORE.