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jb1967lbk
" They could reconcile your shares at any time. They need only have consulted the stock transfer ledgers. That is always the sole, legitimate source for determining stock ownership. "
What happens if the stock transfer ledgers have been fudged ? The perfect scam would be access to blank certs , a drunken dope of a CEO and a transfer agent in my back pocket.
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rics1997
" No they didn't. They got a copy showing fails never reached more then 186 million shares on a given day. They also got the NOBO/OBO proven ther was no shorts. "
Actually, there is a way that phantom stock could enter the market and seem legit, at least until physical certs are requested. It would take collusion with the transfer agent which seems possible here with CMKX. Since Bagely and the transfer agent that she apparently controls have been named in the legal suit. It's quite possible that Edwards and crew could have pulled this off. I suspect that this happened much earlier then most believe and actually was during the period before the last symbol change.
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" He could have faxed his response to a friend in the US and that friend then faxed it to the SEC. "
Most likely from the local Kinko's outlet. Urbie is well versed in avoidance from years of practice. But this time I doubt that he's trying to avoid the authorities.
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gump
It's not about shorty from the outside with CMKX. It's about an organized group from Vegas who have for years driven companies into the ground with shares that were never delivered on their end of the transaction. The shell companies originally purchased were rigged from the start. Their after bigger fish than Urban and that's why Urbie has been able to make a deal. He could have nailed them in late 2003 but he couldn't keep his hands out of the cookie jar. Hasher's old nemesis use to have a lot of those companies listed on his website.
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rics1997
I suspect that we will learn later that Frizzy was used to keep CMKX alive. There was two distinct parts to this scam . Now that the transfer agent has been included in the charges the first part will come to light.
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Investorman
I was just curious. A lot of people here are under the impression that they have everything figured out about this scam. But unless you have met or spoken to Urban Casavant, you wouldn't be aware that he's not mastermind material for this complex of a fraud. No doubt the drunken dope had his hand deep into the cookie jar in 2004. But during the early period of this scam he was actually duped like all the rest.
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Investorman
So you've never met or spoken to Urban Casavant ?
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Investorman
Have you ever met Urban Casavant in person ?
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Investorman
From what I've heard there's more to come before it's over. I don't think there was 100 billion of legit shares still at the transfer agent. The last time I was out west this year I confirmed some of what I was told in late 2003. The shares bought in 2003 are the shares that make the game here. There are a lot CMKX experts here and Urbie haters that don't know the story as well as they think. Urbie was drunken slime , who got eaten by a bigger shark in Vegas. He implicated himself when he joined in after the initial screwing he took by the Vegas crowd.
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Investorman
The CDN exploration industry wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the junior paper plays and their lucky strikes. The lending industry is useless unless you are already a senior producer.
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Investorman
" Well, no there wasn't. There were some stories posted on the message boards about a small number of people being unable to get their certificates but no information on why that was the case. In most of the postings it seemed to be due to problems with having shares in IRA accounts or other reasons related to tax problems etc. "
Really , funny the people I know who didn't receive their certs here in Canada don't have issues preventing delivery.
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Investorman
"Then again, the question of NSS as it pertains to CMKX isn't even relevant. CMKX was an engineered scam from the beginning. The company never had any real line of business nor any prospects of ever producing any revenue, let alone profits. The stock price fluctuations were based on air and never had any substance."
You'd be hard pressed to find many junior explorers that ever turn a profit or find anything of value. Most are just paper mills for insiders. But it's the one out of a thousand that gets lucky and finds they next potential economic deposit.
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gump90
I wonder which CMKX shares are actually legit shares ? Funny how the stock certificates for shares purchased before the last symbol change have a different notations on the stock certificates. How many more shares beyond the number of the documented O/S did crooked insiders try and dump on the market ?
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jimmy
West and Frizzy should have put a stop to Delidogs activities a lot sooner then they did. Any potential short was before the last symbol change in early 2004.
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Does anyone know if the market makers Etrade or HDSN have been major dumpers of HCFE in the past ? At times in the past when Etrade seems to be holding triple zeroe stocks down it can be a positive sign.
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I'll join you at $.0001 bid for PURH.
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Does anyone know who the main BUNM diluter has been for the last six months ?
TIA
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Anyone know who the main diluter has been for ITLV for the last year ?
TIA
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Wondered if you had a new one for this afternoon. PWTC is stuck at $.0004 and doesn't look like it will get past that level.
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Your board certainly is interesting. But do you have a better pick then PWTC in the pipeline ?
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lifegear
Bank of Montreal here in Canada also shows MHII at $ 1.00 a share this morning. Has to be a srewup with the quotation system, but certainly looks impressive.
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NSDM-forever
" Meaning... if UC did not file the sale or transfer of the certificate the certificate is only good to paper the outhouse wall with. "
You can add most of the employees of one Alberta bus company to that list.
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dia duit
Actually the vast majority of CMKX touts are operating on this website. Even the Paltalk dopes have made an appearance here recently. Not on this forum, but they've been on the message boards.
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dia duit
That's were the story gets really strange. A lot of the family and people close to Urban didn't dump everything that they had. That pump to $.0011 wasn't suppose to be the end of it. They were expecting more, but typical Urban didn't stay sober long enough to stick it to Edwards and crew. The only reason I dumped the vast majority of my CMKX shares at $.001 was to move into the safer play of KPG.V. I fully expected more of a promotion from CMKX but had more faith in Rick Walkers stocks.
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dia duit
Talk to someone who's known Urbie for a long time. You would then understand how he could piss it all away. He's certainly no high wattage bulb , more like a first generation LED.
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jimmy
Hnd's next call should be to Delidog. It would be really interesting to put Deli on the spot with some hard questions. From what I'm been hearing , Deli's squeeze is related to Edwards wife.
What was the main objective to all that buying and selling of shares by Deli ? I've been told there was more to it then just making a profit fleecing the sheep of their last few dollars.
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h2ever
" Well they did say there is stuff they can't release yet, For me i don't think UC was ever smart enought to pull this off, I believe there are some big vegas boys involed here. "
Now that's an accurate statement. It's as if you knew Urban's history from birth.
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nufced
That's interesting. I have a feeling that Edwards would go to great lengths to get her out. She's like a ticking time bomb for him, before she begins to talk.
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nufced
If you have Asian connections it's the perfect conduit to go anywhere or to acquire anything. Vancouver is also an old stomping grounds of Edwards.
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h2ever
Hnd should give Edwards a call next. that would be a very interesting phone call. I've heard that Edwards his hiding out in Vancouver which is a logical location for him.
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Most actually got the shares on that original list. The people listed with smaller amounts of shares received them to pacify them. They were people who bought into CMKI at a penny or higher and were given additional shares to keep them off Urbie's back.
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h24ever
Hnd should be given a lot of credit for those telephone calls he's made. He's done a great job tracking down the cast of characters.
His next target should be Arnold Gutka. It would be real interesting to know if anyone has paid the capital gains on the 6 billion shares sold in his name. Money most likely went to Urbie. Wonder if urbie stiffed him like a lot of other people ?
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h24ever
The transfer agent is the key to this entire farce. Koch's conversation gives a decent perspective on the groups involved.
What's the connection that Delidog's Asian squeeze has to this cast of characters ?
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h24ever
Did you happen to listen to Hnd's telephone call to Koch ?
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h24ever
My personal opinion is that he's useless. All he did was stall the whole mess and allow Deldog to sell even more shares to the sheep. Did you buy any shares from Delidog ?
Can you tell me why they can't even serve Urbie ? I was out in Sask. last month and was told I could find him in less than a day. There's a lot more to this story than you've heard so far.
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h24ever
" Turn it all over to acca/adobey, The sheep are just to ungreatful for what Bill&Kevin have been doing for them "
You should ask Frizzy who's interest he's really representing.
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TSXminer
" You know those "forged signature" certs that West is talking about? "
My money is on Edwards and crew. Throw Deli and his new squeeze into the loop and you have an interesting setup. Is Deli's new squeeze related to Edwards jailbird wife ? Some believe so.
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TSX
I was out in Urbie's neck of the woods last month looking over some flow-through prospects.It was mentioned that if I wanted to find Urbie easily just pop the top off a bottle of booze on the street. Seems that the rumor of him being on the wagon is questionable at best.
West and Frizzy aren't as dumb as they seem once you figure out who's benefit they are really working for. I'd certainly throw my free shares behind anyone who makes a serious attempt to remove them from CMKX. Hnd's conversation with Koch sums up the saga pretty accurately.
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Last month I was out in Sask. and Alberta looking at companies as investment tax credit prospects. You'd never guess the rumors floating around about Urban and his last ploy to call off the dogs.
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