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amen, lol!
it's their asinine prove it game.
OK... there are NO shorts? PROVE IT THEN. BLAH BLAH BLAH
Gorb, why do you even exert your finger muscles typing to them?
i'm holding as well. i'll ride it into the ground or to .06-.09, whichever comes first! maybe ride even higher with some of it. all i have is time.
KISS YOUR MONEY GOODBYE FOLKS. Then if this moves, you'll be happy!... It's my coping mechanism.
Anyone can call Stuart... he'll give you the non-pump version of this idle beast. Ohh, and ask him about the 2005 audit.
Many have run out of patience (can hardly blame them), but if you can hang on, sounds like it will be worth it.
hopefully it was a dollar sign ;)
will do. have a good one as well!
I hope no RS as well. There have been many many PR's stating no RS. Time will only tell.
As well, Dan is probably catching heat from many angles right now. Hopefully they bring out some 'bigger guns' and this moves at least a little bit and soooon!
Been to lunch. Didn't mean to get you riled up!
While we're asking questions though...how much has Dan bought back? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T. If it's zero...prove it. If it's 30 billion shares prove it. If and/or until they give us an amount, it is all speculation, rumor, fabrication, whatever you want to call it. I can't prove it and neither can anyone else except insiders.
Has their been an audit? Prove it! Disprove it. WE HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHY IT HAS BEEN DELAYED. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DONE MONTHS AGO AND HE'S WAITING FOR SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC TO OCCUR BEFORE IT'S RELEASED. IN the real world, intentions are sometimes voiced and for several reasons, sometimes even beyond our control, they don't turn out as predicted.
I understand people's frustration with the fact it would be released, but now it hasn't been. There might be very strategic reasons why it hasn't been. Boil some flipper's blood to get their weak butts out. Who knows?
NEED I REMIND EVERYONE, THIS COMPANY DOES NOT HAVE TO RELEASE AN AUDIT. PERIOD
If I'm a ceo faced with a sideways pps, i might paint a not so pretty picture to cut out the weak hands, all the while buying back at the dirt cheap pps. EVEN dump more when I don't need to, to paint a miserable picture... (is that allowed, i don't even know) Then spring a profitable q1 and q2 along with the fact I've bought back 40 billion shares.
I think that's everyone's frustration... is this a profitable comapany now? Only an audit will tell for q1 and q2 2006. Has a buyback occurred/is occuring?
We always don't get the full picture. That doesn't always mean the sky is falling... but sometimes that's exactly what it means. Therfore, you partly have to float on faith, especially in pinkieland.
SOMETIMES communications are worded for a desired effect of which we don't currently know what that is, and we may NEVER know. Depending how this pans out, we can go back and construct things how we THINK they were meant, but those formed assumptions might have been 180 degrees from their original intent.
If one owns a stock, I HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT WHY ONE WOULD BAD MOUTH OR SECOND GUESS A STOCK. The more negative information that is spewed out there, you are only shooting yourself in the foot.
WHICH LEADS ME TO... IF SOMEONE DOESN'T OWN THE STOCK, WHAT EXACTLY IS THEIR MOTIVE FOR BASHING or asking negatively rhetorical questions they KNOW no one can answer? Therfore, one must draw your own conclusions as to their intentions. Either that, or they are absolute fools and enjoy shooting themselves in the foot.
The 'boys' from Minnesota are not stupid. You don't have access to 250K to invest in a stock that's at .0001 if you're stupid in my opinion. THEY OBVIOUSLY SEE SOME TREMENDOUS UPSIDE POTENTIAL. Now I have never personally spoke with Dan (have spoke with Stuart a few times), but I would imagine these guys have. I would also imagine either they liked what they saw or Dan is the slickest used car snake oil salesman in the world. The fact that someone has invested this kind of money is reassuring when faced with a lack of access.
As I say all of this, I admit I have NEVER even tried to call Dan. (actually have and got his voicemail, but didn't leave a message) I then figured there's not much he can tell me other than what he allows to be released in a PR, and as such is a waste of mine and his time.
As far as Dan's past performance... other than the audit, what has he not followed through on? And cite specific examples and prove he has not worked on them or followed through on them.
WHich leads me to...
forward looking statements...I own my own business and I'm currently working on a deal that has been going on now for 8 months, and could go on for another 10 months. Does that mean I don't announce I'm working on it because I might be called a LIAR if IT or PORTIONS of it do not work out for whatever reason. Actually, quite the contrary. People, especially shareholders, want to know you are working on something and aren't standing around with your thumb up your butt!.
We also have to keep in mind the absolute mind boggling manipulation that is sometimes beyond a company's control. In steps Jack Donnely. Need one say more about his track record?
Which leads me to... why oh why oh why would a company going down the toilet waste their 'last dollars' on a pricey consultant?
When one looks at this company, there are three bottom-line scenarios:
1. This company was an absolute scam from day one. Do your dd, and you will find out that's not the case.
2. The company is faltering, ship going down, every man woman child for themselves.
3. The company has strategically planned where it's currently is situated and the plan is progessing accordingly.
I as many others choose to believe the absolute best in people until proven otherwise. IN my opinion, I have not been proven otherwise.
There's a fine line between freedom of speech and manipulation or fabricating rumors based on not knowing the whole story. i'm not saying that is what you are doing or anyone else for that matter, including Summus, but something to think about.
that's for sure!
I'm going to enjoy when certain people disappear once this moves.
Naked shorting is the epitome of FRAUD.
But i suppose you'll say that hasn't happened here. LMAO
Soooo....PROVE IT.
i second that.
prove it
this stock will move to at least $.05
prove me wrong.
2006? lol
Hidden agendas... in that light, their behavior makes a little more sense at least!
bashers out in full force. they're so utterly predictable and pathetic.
everyone wants their dd handed to them on a silver plater. lol
ot: count me in lol
i logged into ameritrade as well after i saw your post. Mine was showing the same... 243,000
Scottrade shows 66,697,998
as long as she doesn't look like Rocky Balboa.
i didn't think anyone could sell!? funny, i sold some 2 weeks ago with no bid as well. hmmmm
That's strange. i've bought millions of shares of smmw ONLINE with Scottrade.
that's probably what i'll do
NOt sure yet. no one on this board knows anything about it, or at least isn't talking about it.
Scottrade rep knew nothing about it, but that doesn't mean anything. Wouldn't even waste my time asking an Ameritrade rep... they'll spin it however they want and everything will appear fine when in actuality it might not be.
It may be nothing/fear, but it would really suck if something goes down and you didn't move your shares out of Ameritrade and they get held up in bankruptcy or you possibly loose them.
Just not sure if the fear is legit even. My philosphy is you shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket anyway in regard to having only one trading account.
ANYONE ELSE PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS!!
i'm confused too. it should be 4-6 weeks to GET certificates from them.
But it's should be only 10 or so working days to transfer stock OUT of Ameritrade to another broker. (10 days usually for any transfer with any broker) BUt my last transfer happened in about a week/5 business days (FROM Scottrade TO Ameritrade)
i know with Scottrade, you deposit them like you do cash. they show up the next trading day in your account.
problem is, when you order a certificate, it can take 4 weeks or more to get it.
a transfer like i mentioned can take 10 - 20 working days.
QUESTION OF THE HOUR! Maybe nothing to worry about, but these are unchartered waters for me as well as many others... i don't know if there's a posibility we loose them or they get tied up in a bankruptcy forever.
been away for a while. just noticed this... anyone moving shares out of ameritrade? It takes up to 20 business days, but usually much shorter.
well kindergarten bully... why don't you make me :)
'ohhh crystal ball...is it .001 or .02. Preferably .02... i need some money.'
Why should anyone answer you?... you want to sell your shares 'cause this pos sucks so bad. SO sell at .0001 and leave.
yes... it will now be DGRAI.
other than Donnely.
who's Jack?
why is that sweet?
Gorb, you're up late. How you doing? Spoke with Steamboat Chamber the other day regarding channel there. Also spoke with Stuart. Good conversations.
i spoke with the Steamboat Chamber yesterday... the lady that answered didn't know of the station. SHe then she put me on hold and asked another lady, and then confirmed it is RSN as the other lady watches. The first lady had just never come across the station or didn't remember ever seeing it b/c said she doesn't watch tv much.
ahhh, but much more refreshing than the bashers you must admit... que sera, sera! lol