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tiger and hogfan
Tiger the wrong Fax yeah right blame the T/A, I spoke with the T/A on many occasions. I was told the same story on July 14 2006 by Compliance in Scottade. I took their Fax# and gave it to the transfer agent.
Yesterday Scottrade told me they do not loan any shares out to any Firm but the other Firm can borrow the shares, do you get that,also Ameritrade is saying they did nothing wrong!
I highly suggest you and everyone else call T/A talk to Jack or Sandra 1-303-783-9055 it is very obvious that Scottrade and other Brokerages did something that they do not want known. I have done a lot of research and DD around 10 months now on JPHC, MACRO, VXBX, APO, and PAIV the Company.
Hogfan if Scottrade delays one day in what they are telling you file a SEC Complaint against them for not cooperating with the T/A.
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Talk to scottrade complance , said the transfer agent sent fax to wrong fax thats why its taken longer. he also said they did not loan any of the shares out. did not give me time when this would be done. some one else take a shot
A reminder to all, no matter who your Broker is call their Compliance
Dept and e-mail your broker that you want them to cooperate with the Transfer Agent on
his requests that he faxed to all the brokerages two months ago.
. The transfer Agent needs all our help in doing this. If we do not put pressure on the brokers nothing will be done on our receiving our Restricted PAIV Shares
One reason you are
seeing a large rise in the SP is because pressure is being put on the Brokers
Phone numbers for T/A are in my previous posts
pejani It means there are alot
Of shares that have to be bought back by the Brokers. This can very well go way over a year IMO and when we have the restricted shares in hand they can't short.
Posted by: same53
In reply to: None
Date:7/18/2006 7:23:46 PM
Post #of 5404
Serfdom and other JPHC& Paiv Holders Look Here
Below are Volume Days for JPHC and Paiv, Now Brokerages loaned out JPHC Shares to other Firms how many we do not know Take a look at April 24, 25, 26 on JPHC the enrtire Float changed hands each Day.. Take a look at May 22, 2006 on Volume for Paiv it traded almost 20 times the A/S that one day.. Paiv only has around 56 Million Shares.
So what does all this mean? Any thoughts? I see GOOD THINGS AHEAD.
Jphc Link JPHC had a A/S around 10 Billion with a Float of around 1Billion 800million shares
http://www.optionsxpress.com/quote_charts.asp?PageID=Historical&SubPageId=FIND&SessionID=
5/19/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 435,091,227
5/18/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 425,520,327
5/17/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 103,019,800
5/16/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 134,631,579
5/15/2006 0.0002 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 221,970,988
5/12/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 77,264,414
5/11/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 275,703,818
5/10/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 317,183,356
5/9/2006 0.0003 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 591,983,247
5/8/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 316,072,552
5/5/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 295,656,742
5/4/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 208,294,866
5/3/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 497,290,958
5/2/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 442,405,016
5/1/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0003 0.0004 672,861,724
4/28/2006 0.0005 0.0007 0.0004 0.0004 409,797,226
4/27/2006 0.0005 0.0007 0.0004 0.0005 822,500,809
4/26/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0004 0.0005 -2,094,956,209
4/25/2006 0.001 0.001 0.0008 0.0009 1,713,997,957
4/24/2006 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 1,245,184,908
4/21/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0007 0.001 583,453,868
4/20/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 0.0008 231,280,930
4/19/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0008 168,158,395
4/18/2006 0.001 0.001 0.0006 0.0008 907,350,283
4/17/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0008 0.0009 541,705,646
4/13/2006 0.0007 0.0009 0.0006 0.0007 243,109,602
4/12/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0006 0.0007 35,456,428
4/11/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0007 42,381,524
4/10/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 115,975,590
4/7/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0006 0.0006 126,310,507
4/6/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0006 0.0006 40,624,283
4/5/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0006 0.0007 138,512,856
4/4/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 0.0007 65,743,814
4/3/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0007 113,757,342
3/31/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0008 90,533,208
3/30/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0008 101,581,712
3/29/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0006 0.0008 123,620,767
3/28/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 0.0008 165,683,432
3/27/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0005 0.0007 177,214,745
3/24/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0006 0.0007 156,669,879
3/23/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 187,764,919
3/22/2006 0.0008 0.0009 0.0005 0.0006 708,231,875
3/21/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0005 0.0008 1,138,846,324
3/20/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 334,348,263
3/17/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 95,127,960
3/16/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 45,676,660
3/15/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 94,813,550
3/14/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 159,180,400
3/13/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 248,149,017
3/10/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0003 0.0005 363,558,839
3/9/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 265,963,206
3/8/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0004 0.0005 828,016,325
3/7/2006 0.0009 0.001 0.0007 0.0007 551,389,182
3/6/2006 0.0005 0.0009 0.0005 0.0009 778,960,478
3/3/2006 0.0004 0.004 0.0004 0.0005 525,758,409
3/2/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 158,048,175
3/1/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 469,105,433
2/28/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 414,203,478
2/27/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 184,236,837
2/24/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 108,252,094
2/23/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 270,817,361
2/22/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 37,108,000
2/21/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 65,675,000
2/17/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 84,923,684
2/16/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 78,573,285
2/15/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 121,565,104
2/14/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 302,283,699
2/13/2006 0.0004 0.0006 0.0003 0.0004 587,587,134
2/10/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 264,054,885
2/9/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 629,670,375
2/8/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0002 75,086,999
2/7/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 159,533,539
2/6/2006 0.0003 0.0008 0.0002 0.0003 118,190,663
2/3/2006 0.0002 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 449,092,294
2/2/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 39,641,075
2/1/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 58,371,133
1/31/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 213,937,186
1/30/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 24,308,382
1/27/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 88,682,060
1/26/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 156,732,967
1/25/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 278,278,375
1/24/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 249,626,569
1/23/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 24,232,000
1/20/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 369,298,725
1/19/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 254,188,669
1/18/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0004 0.0004 244,488,920
1/17/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 59,213,329
1/13/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 75,129,313
1/12/2006 0.0005 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 44,976,560
1/11/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 79,334,893
1/10/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 119,565,299
1/9/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0005 0.0007 258,593,293
1/6/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0007 75,080,999
1/5/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 184,860,737
1/4/2006 0.0005 0.0007 0.0004 0.0005 274,882,457
1/3/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 41,882,115
12/30/2005 0.0004 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 6,346,040
12/29/2005 0.0004 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 35,219,813
12/28/2005 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 41,647,500
12/27/2005 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 30,421,300
Paiv Link APO Health Merged with JPHC with a name change to Paiv on May 19, 2006
Look at the Volime on May 22, 2006 Paiv only has around 56 Million Shares A/S
http://www.optionsxpress.com/quote_charts.asp?PageID=Historical&SubPageId=FIND&SessionID=
7/14/2006 0.042 0.044 0.027 0.037 55,070,784
7/13/2006 0.019 0.051 0.005 0.044 110,143,187
7/12/2006 0.013 0.020 0.013 0.019 31,615,342
7/11/2006 0.011 0.013 0.01 0.013 33,127,192
7/10/2006 0.008 0.012 0.008 0.011 44,062,509
7/7/2006 0.007 0.010 0.006 0.008 48,768,464
7/6/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 10,455,351
7/5/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.006 14,550,904
7/3/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 731,000
6/30/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 12,491,878
6/29/2006 0.005 0.005 0.004 0.005 8,763,067
6/28/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 9,361,331
6/27/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 4,670,392
6/26/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 8,899,400
6/23/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 9,849,087
6/22/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 13,564,966
6/21/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 9,715,692
6/20/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 4,486,571
6/19/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 7,499,982
6/16/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 4,287,165
6/15/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 8,738,528
6/14/2006 0.005 0.006 0.004 0.005 9,742,524
6/13/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 6,319,456
6/12/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.006 13,029,500
6/9/2006 0.007 0.007 0.005 0.006 6,635,055
6/8/2006 0.006 0.007 0.005 0.006 12,219,807
6/7/2006 0.005 0.007 0.005 0.006 38,277,207
6/6/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 29,157,014
6/5/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 12,968,480
6/2/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 27,127,445
6/1/2006 0.007 0.007 0.006 0.006 31,028,762
5/31/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 28,960,252
5/30/2006 0.006 0.007 0.004 0.006 85,598,804
5/26/2006 0.005 0.006 0.004 0.006 146,078,259
5/25/2006 0.007 0.007 0.004 0.006 224,541,371
5/24/2006 0.009 0.099 0.008 0.008 406,496,755
5/23/2006 0.003 0.009 0.003 0.007 760,425,733
5/22/2006 0.001 0.003 0.001 0.002 920,928,086
5/18/2006 0.009 0.014 0.007 0.01 1,063,402
5/17/2006 0.009 0.009 0.009 0.009 152,500
5/16/2006 0.006 0.01 0.006 0.008 1,902,676
5/15/2006 0.007 0.007 0.005 0.006 880,000
5/12/2006 0.008 0.008 0.008 0.008 202,000
5/11/2006 0.009 0.009 0.008 0.008 417,500
5/10/2006 0.013 0.013 0.009 0.009 565,099
5/9/2006 0.012 0.012 0.01 0.012 412,260
5/8/2006 0.009 0.014 0.009 0.013 744,263
5/5/2006 0.007 0.007 0.007 0.007 67,500
5/4/2006 0.007 0.007 0.007 0.007 24,000
5/3/2006 0.007 0.009 0.007 0.009 8,333
5/2/2006 0.007 0.007 0.007 0.007 150,000
5/1/2006 0.009 0.009 0.007 0.007 318,200
4/28/2006 0.009 0.01 0.007 0.009 658,700
4/27/2006 0.008 0.008 0.008 0.008 177,500
4/26/2006 0.015 0.018 0.005 0.007 4,909,664
4/25/2006 0.014 0.014 0.012 0.012 75,333
4/24/2006 0.014 0.014 0.014 0.014 5,000
4/21/2006 0.018 0.018 0.018 0.018 9,000
4/20/2006 0.014 0.015 0.014 0.014 200,000
4/19/2006 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 2,500
4/18/2006 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 5,000
4/17/2006 0.015 0.015 0.012 0.012 13,550
4/13/2006 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 16,500
4/12/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.015 0
4/11/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.015 0
4/10/2006 0.014 0.015 0.014 0.015 43,450
4/7/2006 0.02 0.02 0.014 0.018 170,000
4/6/2006 0.018 0.02 0.018 0.02 56,000
4/5/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.019 0
4/4/2006 0.019 0.019 0.019 0.019 20,000
4/3/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.019 0
3/31/2006 0.02 0.02 0.019 0.019 14,000
3/30/2006 0.015 0.021 0.015 0.019 39,000
3/29/2006 0.015 0.015 0.015 0.015 1,000
3/28/2006 0.014 0.014 0.014 0.014 25,000
3/27/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.014 0
3/24/2006 0.014 0.014 0.014 0.014 336,200
3/23/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.015 0
3/22/2006 0.015 0.015 0.012 0.015 115,000
3/21/2006 0.015 0.015 0.015 0.015 19,200
3/20/2006 0.015 0.015 0.015 0.015 13,000
3/17/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.02 0
3/16/2006 0.02 0.02 0.016 0.02 22,640
3/15/2006 0.02 0.021 0.02 0.02 114,600
3/14/2006 0.017 0.022 0.016 0.02 264,000
3/13/2006 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 5,000
3/10/2006 0.027 0.027 0.019 0.019 156,167
3/9/2006 0.03 0.03 0.025 0.027 171,000
3/8/2006 0.014 0.03 0.014 0.025 735,350
3/7/2006 0.01 0.011 0.01 0.011 37,200
3/6/2006 0.009 0.009 0.009 0.009 10,800
3/3/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 0
3/2/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 2,800
3/1/2006 0.009 0.009 0.009 0.009 1,000
2/28/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 15,000
2/27/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 25,000
2/24/2006 0.011 0.011 0.011 0.011 4,000
2/23/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 40,000
2/22/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 3,000
2/21/2006 0.008 0.01 0.008 0.01 125,200
Serfdom and other JPHC& Paiv Holders Look Here
Below are Volume Days for JPHC and Paiv, Now Brokerages loaned out JPHC Shares to other Firms how many we do not know Take a look at April 24, 25, 26 on JPHC the enrtire Float changed hands each Day.. Take a look at May 22, 2006 on Volume for Paiv it traded almost 20 times the A/S that one day.. Paiv only has around 56 Million Shares.
So what does all this mean? Any thoughts? I see GOOD THINGS AHEAD.
Jphc Link JPHC had a A/S around 10 Billion with a Float of around 1Billion 800million shares
http://www.optionsxpress.com/quote_charts.asp?PageID=Historical&SubPageId=FIND&SessionID=
5/19/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 435,091,227
5/18/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 425,520,327
5/17/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 103,019,800
5/16/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 134,631,579
5/15/2006 0.0002 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 221,970,988
5/12/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 77,264,414
5/11/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 275,703,818
5/10/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 317,183,356
5/9/2006 0.0003 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 591,983,247
5/8/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 316,072,552
5/5/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 295,656,742
5/4/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 208,294,866
5/3/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 497,290,958
5/2/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 442,405,016
5/1/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0003 0.0004 672,861,724
4/28/2006 0.0005 0.0007 0.0004 0.0004 409,797,226
4/27/2006 0.0005 0.0007 0.0004 0.0005 822,500,809
4/26/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0004 0.0005 -2,094,956,209
4/25/2006 0.001 0.001 0.0008 0.0009 1,713,997,957
4/24/2006 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 1,245,184,908
4/21/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0007 0.001 583,453,868
4/20/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 0.0008 231,280,930
4/19/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0008 168,158,395
4/18/2006 0.001 0.001 0.0006 0.0008 907,350,283
4/17/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0008 0.0009 541,705,646
4/13/2006 0.0007 0.0009 0.0006 0.0007 243,109,602
4/12/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0006 0.0007 35,456,428
4/11/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0007 42,381,524
4/10/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 115,975,590
4/7/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0006 0.0006 126,310,507
4/6/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0006 0.0006 40,624,283
4/5/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0006 0.0007 138,512,856
4/4/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 0.0007 65,743,814
4/3/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0007 113,757,342
3/31/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0008 90,533,208
3/30/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0007 0.0008 101,581,712
3/29/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0006 0.0008 123,620,767
3/28/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 0.0008 165,683,432
3/27/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0005 0.0007 177,214,745
3/24/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0006 0.0007 156,669,879
3/23/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 187,764,919
3/22/2006 0.0008 0.0009 0.0005 0.0006 708,231,875
3/21/2006 0.0008 0.001 0.0005 0.0008 1,138,846,324
3/20/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 334,348,263
3/17/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 95,127,960
3/16/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 45,676,660
3/15/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 94,813,550
3/14/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 159,180,400
3/13/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 248,149,017
3/10/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0003 0.0005 363,558,839
3/9/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 265,963,206
3/8/2006 0.0008 0.0008 0.0004 0.0005 828,016,325
3/7/2006 0.0009 0.001 0.0007 0.0007 551,389,182
3/6/2006 0.0005 0.0009 0.0005 0.0009 778,960,478
3/3/2006 0.0004 0.004 0.0004 0.0005 525,758,409
3/2/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 158,048,175
3/1/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 469,105,433
2/28/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 414,203,478
2/27/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 184,236,837
2/24/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 108,252,094
2/23/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 270,817,361
2/22/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 37,108,000
2/21/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 65,675,000
2/17/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 84,923,684
2/16/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 78,573,285
2/15/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 121,565,104
2/14/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 302,283,699
2/13/2006 0.0004 0.0006 0.0003 0.0004 587,587,134
2/10/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 264,054,885
2/9/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 629,670,375
2/8/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0002 75,086,999
2/7/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 159,533,539
2/6/2006 0.0003 0.0008 0.0002 0.0003 118,190,663
2/3/2006 0.0002 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 449,092,294
2/2/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 39,641,075
2/1/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 58,371,133
1/31/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 213,937,186
1/30/2006 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 24,308,382
1/27/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 88,682,060
1/26/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 156,732,967
1/25/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 278,278,375
1/24/2006 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 249,626,569
1/23/2006 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 24,232,000
1/20/2006 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0003 369,298,725
1/19/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 254,188,669
1/18/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0004 0.0004 244,488,920
1/17/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 59,213,329
1/13/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 75,129,313
1/12/2006 0.0005 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 44,976,560
1/11/2006 0.0006 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 79,334,893
1/10/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 119,565,299
1/9/2006 0.0007 0.0008 0.0005 0.0007 258,593,293
1/6/2006 0.0006 0.0007 0.0005 0.0007 75,080,999
1/5/2006 0.0007 0.0007 0.0005 0.0006 184,860,737
1/4/2006 0.0005 0.0007 0.0004 0.0005 274,882,457
1/3/2006 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 41,882,115
12/30/2005 0.0004 0.0005 0.0004 0.0005 6,346,040
12/29/2005 0.0004 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 35,219,813
12/28/2005 0.0005 0.0005 0.0004 0.0004 41,647,500
12/27/2005 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 30,421,300
Paiv Link APO Health Merged with JPHC with a name change to Paiv on May 19, 2006
Look at the Volime on May 22, 2006 Paiv only has around 56 Million Shares A/S
http://www.optionsxpress.com/quote_charts.asp?PageID=Historical&SubPageId=FIND&SessionID=
7/14/2006 0.042 0.044 0.027 0.037 55,070,784
7/13/2006 0.019 0.051 0.005 0.044 110,143,187
7/12/2006 0.013 0.020 0.013 0.019 31,615,342
7/11/2006 0.011 0.013 0.01 0.013 33,127,192
7/10/2006 0.008 0.012 0.008 0.011 44,062,509
7/7/2006 0.007 0.010 0.006 0.008 48,768,464
7/6/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 10,455,351
7/5/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.006 14,550,904
7/3/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 731,000
6/30/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 12,491,878
6/29/2006 0.005 0.005 0.004 0.005 8,763,067
6/28/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 9,361,331
6/27/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 4,670,392
6/26/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 8,899,400
6/23/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 9,849,087
6/22/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 13,564,966
6/21/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 9,715,692
6/20/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 4,486,571
6/19/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 7,499,982
6/16/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 4,287,165
6/15/2006 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.005 8,738,528
6/14/2006 0.005 0.006 0.004 0.005 9,742,524
6/13/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 6,319,456
6/12/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.006 13,029,500
6/9/2006 0.007 0.007 0.005 0.006 6,635,055
6/8/2006 0.006 0.007 0.005 0.006 12,219,807
6/7/2006 0.005 0.007 0.005 0.006 38,277,207
6/6/2006 0.006 0.006 0.005 0.005 29,157,014
6/5/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 12,968,480
6/2/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 27,127,445
6/1/2006 0.007 0.007 0.006 0.006 31,028,762
5/31/2006 0.006 0.007 0.006 0.006 28,960,252
5/30/2006 0.006 0.007 0.004 0.006 85,598,804
5/26/2006 0.005 0.006 0.004 0.006 146,078,259
5/25/2006 0.007 0.007 0.004 0.006 224,541,371
5/24/2006 0.009 0.099 0.008 0.008 406,496,755
5/23/2006 0.003 0.009 0.003 0.007 760,425,733
5/22/2006 0.001 0.003 0.001 0.002 920,928,086
5/18/2006 0.009 0.014 0.007 0.01 1,063,402
5/17/2006 0.009 0.009 0.009 0.009 152,500
5/16/2006 0.006 0.01 0.006 0.008 1,902,676
5/15/2006 0.007 0.007 0.005 0.006 880,000
5/12/2006 0.008 0.008 0.008 0.008 202,000
5/11/2006 0.009 0.009 0.008 0.008 417,500
5/10/2006 0.013 0.013 0.009 0.009 565,099
5/9/2006 0.012 0.012 0.01 0.012 412,260
5/8/2006 0.009 0.014 0.009 0.013 744,263
5/5/2006 0.007 0.007 0.007 0.007 67,500
5/4/2006 0.007 0.007 0.007 0.007 24,000
5/3/2006 0.007 0.009 0.007 0.009 8,333
5/2/2006 0.007 0.007 0.007 0.007 150,000
5/1/2006 0.009 0.009 0.007 0.007 318,200
4/28/2006 0.009 0.01 0.007 0.009 658,700
4/27/2006 0.008 0.008 0.008 0.008 177,500
4/26/2006 0.015 0.018 0.005 0.007 4,909,664
4/25/2006 0.014 0.014 0.012 0.012 75,333
4/24/2006 0.014 0.014 0.014 0.014 5,000
4/21/2006 0.018 0.018 0.018 0.018 9,000
4/20/2006 0.014 0.015 0.014 0.014 200,000
4/19/2006 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 2,500
4/18/2006 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 5,000
4/17/2006 0.015 0.015 0.012 0.012 13,550
4/13/2006 0.012 0.012 0.012 0.012 16,500
4/12/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.015 0
4/11/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.015 0
4/10/2006 0.014 0.015 0.014 0.015 43,450
4/7/2006 0.02 0.02 0.014 0.018 170,000
4/6/2006 0.018 0.02 0.018 0.02 56,000
4/5/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.019 0
4/4/2006 0.019 0.019 0.019 0.019 20,000
4/3/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.019 0
3/31/2006 0.02 0.02 0.019 0.019 14,000
3/30/2006 0.015 0.021 0.015 0.019 39,000
3/29/2006 0.015 0.015 0.015 0.015 1,000
3/28/2006 0.014 0.014 0.014 0.014 25,000
3/27/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.014 0
3/24/2006 0.014 0.014 0.014 0.014 336,200
3/23/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.015 0
3/22/2006 0.015 0.015 0.012 0.015 115,000
3/21/2006 0.015 0.015 0.015 0.015 19,200
3/20/2006 0.015 0.015 0.015 0.015 13,000
3/17/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.02 0
3/16/2006 0.02 0.02 0.016 0.02 22,640
3/15/2006 0.02 0.021 0.02 0.02 114,600
3/14/2006 0.017 0.022 0.016 0.02 264,000
3/13/2006 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 5,000
3/10/2006 0.027 0.027 0.019 0.019 156,167
3/9/2006 0.03 0.03 0.025 0.027 171,000
3/8/2006 0.014 0.03 0.014 0.025 735,350
3/7/2006 0.01 0.011 0.01 0.011 37,200
3/6/2006 0.009 0.009 0.009 0.009 10,800
3/3/2006 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 0
3/2/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 2,800
3/1/2006 0.009 0.009 0.009 0.009 1,000
2/28/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 15,000
2/27/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 25,000
2/24/2006 0.011 0.011 0.011 0.011 4,000
2/23/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 40,000
2/22/2006 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 3,000
2/21/2006 0.008 0.01 0.008 0.01 125,200
EyeDocTX Read, also everyone in Paiv Read
One of the reasons you are seeing the rise in shareprice is because of the pressure being put on the brokerage firms by us the shareholders. I belong to a group that is on the phone or e-mailing Brokers everyday. We also talk to T/A and will file a SEC Complainy soon. Read below and put pressure on your brokers Compliance Dept and then call T/A all phone numbers are below.
Posted by: same53
In reply to: serfdom who wrote msg# 5021
Date:7/15/2006 5:23:14 PM
Post #of 5395
Everyone with SCOTTRADE Read
I highly suggest you and everyone else call the T/A and talk to Jack. Ask any Questions you want and he will give you a straight answer. I was very inpressed.
Posted by: same53
In reply to: None
Date:7/14/2006 8:49:21 PM
Post #of 5039
Very Important about Brokers and Paiv Shares
I talked three hours today to the Paiv Transfer Agent at Phone #1- 303-783-9055 and to Scottrade Compliance Dept Phone # 1-800-888-1980 EXT 1900. This is what I found out.
I would first suggest that you find out the phone number of your broker’s Compliance Dept as I did and call them to request your Paiv Restricted Shares be sent to you in your name to your home address.
You must do this otherwise the Brokerages will not do anything to help you. They are out to help themselves... The Transfer Agent and the Company Paiv have done everything they can do, it’s the Brokerages that are not cooperating because they shorted JPHC and Paiv., they got greedy and are now caught in that greed, it is up to the Shereholders of JPHC to start complaining to their Brokerage Compliance Dept. that serves him or her. You as a client signed an agreement with your Brokerage Firm and have every right to do this. The Brokerages have been telling everyone different stories to buy time because they are making huge money from shorting JPHC and PAIV.
This is what I found out today July 14, 2006 about Scottrade who is my broker about my JPHC Shares. Now remember other Brokerages are doing the same thing .This is in three Parts A, B and C.
Part A
All of our JPHC Shares were held in CEDE&CO. All of out JPHC Shares were sent to the PAIV Transfer Agent by CEDE&CO.
The Transfer Agent has all the names and share totals for all JPHC shareholders that were sent to them by CEDE&CO.
This was done two months ago. The Transfer Agent faxed all Brokerages two months ago with detailed instructions for the Brokerages to follow.so that the JPHC shares could be converted to PAIV restricted Shares and sent to the owners of those Paiv Restricted Shares at their home address.
The Transfer Agent asked for the Name, Address, Social Securtity number and the amount of JPHC Shares held in the clients account.
Now how hard is this to do, it is all done electronically.
The Transfer Agent right now has all the PAIV Restricted Shares ready to be mailed out to us at our home addresses.
So why would the Brokerages not do what the Transfer Asked them to do. This is why.
Part B
I found this out while talking to the Transfer Agent, The Transfer Agent added up all the JPHC Shares that CEDE&CO sent them.
There was a HUGE Discrepency in the total JPHC share count that CEDE&CO sent to the Transfer Agent compared to what the Brokerage Participents Share Count.stated.
Why? Because a large number of brokers loaned out JPHC Shares to other participants to cover short sales which caused the huge share price drop in Paiv which caused the huge share number difference in what CEDE&CO sent the Transfer Agent compared to the Brokerage Participants JPHC totals.
For Scottrade my Broker they loaned JPHC Shares to Merill Lynch.
Other Brokerages did the same thing with many different brokerage Firms.
For Scottrade to correct this situation they have to demand the return of all the JPHC Shares from Merill Lynch or Scottrade has to buy in Merill Lynch based on the original transaction with merill Lynch.
This is what Scottrade is trying to get out of and why they along with other brokerage firms are not cooperating with the Transfer Agentfor PAIV.
The Brokerages also want to keep your PAIV Restricted Shares in their own Vault. Why? So when the restriction is lifted they can short the shares and start this process all over again.
They can not do this if you have the Shares in your name held by you. Here is the PAIV Press release for June29, 2006 stating the procedure for the Brokers to follow. I called my Broker Scottrade on June 30, 2006 and was told everything would be taken care of by Scottade and they knew of the Press release issued by Paiv. I called again on July 13, 2006 and was told that my JPHC shares were sent to the T/A and that within 5 days i should have my Paiv shares.
I called again on july 14, 2006 and was told by numerous parties that Compliance was aware of the situation and working on it. I asked for the Compliance Dept number and received another story. I then called the Transfer Agent along with Loyola. The Transfer Agent talked to Scottrade and gave them specific Instrutions for the second time.
These conversations took 3 hours.
Press Release June 29, 2006 Paiv.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060629/0140620.html
PartC
This is what I was advised to do after tallking to the Transfer Agent of Paiv phone # 1-303-783-9055 and the Investor Relation firm Loyola used for Paiv phone # 1-702-317-2300.
I also found out there will be a fee of $25.00 per Cert. If you have two accounts it is $50.00.
By all means call numbers I listed above and ask your own Questions. Use my post for a reference and remember the Broker is out for themselves and making money, expect to be told stories by all the Brokerage firms involved in this fiascal and remember demand your Paiv Restricted Shares sent to your address in your name.
So with this information I found out today and on the advice I was given I called Scottrade Compliance Dept and left a message that I as a Scottrade Clinent and shareholder of JPHC shares will file an SEC Compaint against Scottrade for their refusal in cooperating with the above parties mentioned in giving me my Paiv Restricted Shares that I am entitled to mailed to my home address in my name.. I stated that if I did not have my Restricted Paiv shares within 10 days from today July 14, 2006 I would begin my SEC Complaint. against Scottrade, I will also file a Complaint with
NASD phone # 1-203-375-9609 which is in Connecticut.
http://www.nasd.com/index.htm
SEC Complaint Link
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml
Expect a song and dance from your Brokers saying that Latimere and DTC are involved. Do not fall for this and verify what I am posting here with the Paiv Transfer Agent..
Also I found out that the only way to stop Firms from Shorting Stock is for you the client to ask and sign an agreement with your Broker that they are not to loan your shares out. They will not tell you about this agreement you have to ask them for it. If they do loan your shares out you can sue them.
Putting a Sell order above the price of a stock does not tie your shares up as some think it stops the firms from shorting.
I hope this helps and call your Compliance Dept right away.
To stop Brokers from Loaning your shares
You have to have a Brokers CASH Account not Margin. They can not loan your shares out to any other Brokerage Firms in a Cash Account, I changed mine today to a Cash Account.
You notice how the Brokers always start with a Margin Account Agreement when you go to open an Account, this is to sucker you in for their own benefit..
If you have a Margin Account they can loan your Shares out to other Brokerage Firms.
This is the only way to STOP them SHORTING. Putting a higher Limit order to sell a stock GTC does nothing to stop Shorting.
'MRDALE call the Transfer Agent and Confirm
With Jack, he deals with all the Brokerages let us know what Jack says. his number is in my previous post.
Who did you talk to at Scottrade was it K or T or someone else. I spoke to T.
On Friday K from Scottrade called T/A then hung the phone up on the T/A because K was not happy in what the T/A told them Scottrade Compliance what they had to do. So double check with Jack Donnely the T/A
*************************************************************
Talked with Scottrade compliance and was told the 21st July, Friday is the deadline. They will send out certs to each client on the 21st. They are gathering the pertinent info as we speak, er type. . There is a $25.00 fee. You should talk to yer broker and clarify it.
That is what I was told.
Corvette this will help
Call the Transfer Agent for Paiv explain your situation ask for Jack and write your Broker an e-mail on your situation.
Very Important Scottrade and other Brokers on Paiv Restricted Shares
I talked three hours today to the Paiv Transfer Agent at Phone #1- 303-783-9055 and to Scottrade Compliance Dept Phone # 1-800-888-1980 EXT 1900. This is what I found out.
I would first suggest that you find out the phone number of your broker’s Compliance Dept as I did and call them to request your Paiv Restricted Shares be sent to you in your name to your home address.
You must do this otherwise the Brokerages will not do anything to help you. They are out to help themselves... The Transfer Agent and the Company Paiv have done everything they can do, it’s the Brokerages that are not cooperating because they shorted JPHC and Paiv., they got greedy and are now caught in that greed, it is up to the Shereholders of JPHC to start complaining to their Brokerage Compliance Dept. that serves him or her. You as a client signed an agreement with your Brokerage Firm and have every right to do this. The Brokerages have been telling everyone different stories to buy time because they are making huge money from shorting JPHC and PAIV.
This is what I found out today July 14, 2006 about Scottrade who is my broker about my JPHC Shares. Now remember other Brokerages are doing the same thing .This is in three Parts A, B and C.
Part A
All of our JPHC Shares were held in CEDE&CO. All of out JPHC Shares were sent to the PAIV Transfer Agent by CEDE&CO.
The Transfer Agent has all the names and share totals for all JPHC shareholders that were sent to them by CEDE&CO.
This was done two months ago. The Transfer Agent faxed all Brokerages two months ago with detailed instructions for the Brokerages to follow.so that the JPHC shares could be converted to PAIV restricted Shares and sent to the owners of those Paiv Restricted Shares at their home address.
The Transfer Agent asked for the Name, Address, Social Securtity number and the amount of JPHC Shares held in the clients account.
Now how hard is this to do, it is all done electronically.
The Transfer Agent right now has all the PAIV Restricted Shares ready to be mailed out to us at our home addresses.
So why would the Brokerages not do what the Transfer Asked them to do. This is why.
Part B
I found this out while talking to the Transfer Agent, The Transfer Agent added up all the JPHC Shares that CEDE&CO sent them.
There was a HUGE Discrepency in the total JPHC share count that CEDE&CO sent to the Transfer Agent compared to what the Brokerage Participents Share Count.stated.
Why? Because a large number of brokers loaned out JPHC Shares to other participants to cover short sales which caused the huge share price drop in Paiv which caused the huge share number difference in what CEDE&CO sent the Transfer Agent compared to the Brokerage Participants JPHC totals.
For Scottrade my Broker they loaned JPHC Shares to Merill Lynch.
Other Brokerages did the same thing with many different brokerage Firms.
For Scottrade to correct this situation they have to demand the return of all the JPHC Shares from Merill Lynch or Scottrade has to buy in Merill Lynch based on the original transaction with merill Lynch.
This is what Scottrade is trying to get out of and why they along with other brokerage firms are not cooperating with the Transfer Agentfor PAIV.
The Brokerages also want to keep your PAIV Restricted Shares in their own Vault. Why? So when the restriction is lifted they can short the shares and start this process all over again.
They can not do this if you have the Shares in your name held by you. Here is the PAIV Press release for June29, 2006 stating the procedure for the Brokers to follow. I called my Broker Scottrade on June 30, 2006 and was told everything would be taken care of by Scottade and they knew of the Press release issued by Paiv. I called again on July 13, 2006 and was told that my JPHC shares were sent to the T/A and that within 5 days i should have my Paiv shares.
I called again on july 14, 2006 and was told by numerous parties that Compliance was aware of the situation and working on it. I asked for the Compliance Dept number and received another story. I then called the Transfer Agent along with Loyola. The Transfer Agent talked to Scottrade and gave them specific Instrutions for the second time.
These conversations took 3 hours.
Press Release June 29, 2006 Paiv.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060629/0140620.html
PartC
This is what I was advised to do after tallking to the Transfer Agent of Paiv phone # 1-303-783-9055 and the Investor Relation firm Loyola used for Paiv phone # 1-702-317-2300.
I also found out there will be a fee of $25.00 per Cert. If you have two accounts it is $50.00.
By all means call numbers I listed above and ask your own Questions. Use my post for a reference and remember the Broker is out for themselves and making money, expect to be told stories by all the Brokerage firms involved in this fiascal and remember demand your Paiv Restricted Shares sent to your address in your name.
So with this information I found out today and on the advice I was given I called Scottrade Compliance Dept and left a message that I as a Scottrade Clinent and shareholder of JPHC shares will file an SEC Compaint against Scottrade for their refusal in cooperating with the above parties mentioned in giving me my Paiv Restricted Shares that I am entitled to mailed to my home address in my name.. I stated that if I did not have my Restricted Paiv shares within 10 days from today July 14, 2006 I would begin my SEC Complaint. against Scottrade, I will also file a Complaint with
NASD phone # 1-203-375-9609 which is in Connecticut.
http://www.nasd.com/index.htm
SEC Complaint Link
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml
Expect a song and dance from your Brokers saying that Latimere and DTC are involved. Do not fall for this and verify what I am posting here with the Paiv Transfer Agent..
Also I found out that the only way to stop Firms from Shorting Stock is for you the client to ask and sign an agreement with your Broker that they are not to loan your shares out. They will not tell you about this agreement you have to ask them for it. If they do loan your shares out you can sue them.
Putting a Sell order above the price of a stock does not tie your shares up as some think it stops the firms from shorting.
I hope this helps and call your Compliance Dept right away.
macdrsirules follow up, call the
Transfer Agent and talk to Jack about your situation, after that do a follow up call to Scottrade compliance dept. All the phone numbers are in my previous post.
Let us know how you make out.
serfdom great post.
You are one sharpe guy or gal. Take a look at FSMH it will move. BigDog and myself have done some DD on it. They have a good concept.
Posted by: serfdom
In reply to: None
Date:7/15/2006 1:16:30 AM
Post #of 5040
SQUEEZE STATUS: Are you sitting down?
Following is my "armchair" analysis of where we're at today. Given the lack of any verifiable facts, it is entirely speculation and MUST NOT be used in plotting entry/exit points.
As you will see, I am being very conservative with the numbers. Even when hugely skewed in Ameritrade's favor - it suggests that only 47% of the shorted shares could possibly be covered to date.
During the panic sell-off last May, 1.57 billion shares were sold into the float in two day's time. I am going to call 1.519 billion of those shares "short shares," assuming that every legitimate PAIV shareholder sold out too. Therefore, 57 million legitimate shares are deducted from the two-day volume numbers.
So....
ASSUMED SHORT POSITION = 1,519,000,000 shares
I have omitted trading volume from May 25th through the 29, because I highly doubt AT would have rushed in to begin covering right away. IMO, that week only added to the depth of the short position as retail investors bought and sold with each other. Even though that's a reasonable assessment, I will throw those trades out, again erring in favor of the shorts.
So the "covering trades" count begins the day PAIV appeared on SHO (May 30) which certainly would have added pressure to begin covering.
When I add the total volume from May 30 until July 14, I come up with approximately 717 million total shares traded. I will further err in AT's favor by eliminating the retail investors entirely. Assume that EVERY share traded from from May 30 until July 14 was an Ameritrade covering trade. While we know that's not true, look what it tells us:
TOTAL POSSIBLE COVER TRADES TO DATE = 717,000,000 shares
Wow. That's less than HALF of the short position. When you consider that covering only 47% of the short shares caused PAIV to gain 920% (.005 - .051), it is a safe bet to say that covering the remaining shorts would bring us up another 1000% from Friday's close of .037. Therefore:
SHARE PRICE UPON FINAL COVER = $0.37 per share
If you take a more realistic position, and assume that only HALF of the trades since May 30 were cover trades, that gives us a figure of 358,000,000 shares covered to date. Personally, I bet AT has covered only 200 or so million thus far. However:
"MORE REALISTIC" COVER TRADES TO DATE = 358,000,000 shares
Now we're looking at only 23.5% of the position being covered as of July 14. Since PAIV gained 920% covering just a quarter of the shares, that means 75% more to go...for a total gain of 3,680%:
SHARE PRICE UPON COVER - "REALISTIC NUMBERS" = $1.06 per share
Again I stress these are not facts. But based on everything above, I do think we have a shot at passing $0.10 or even $0.18. Keep in mind AT will use every dirty trick in the book - shakeouts, new shorted shares, etc. Even assuming an average cover price of just $0.10 per share - that's over $150 million. I expect that AT will find a way to worm out of paying that kind of dough, either through dirty tricks, an extended timeframe, or both.
GLT all of us!
Everyone with SCOTTRADE Read
I highly suggest you and everyone else call the T/A and talk to Jack. Ask any Questions you want and he will give you a straight answer. I was very inpressed.
Posted by: same53
In reply to: None
Date:7/14/2006 8:49:21 PM
Post #of 5039
Very Important about Brokers and Paiv Shares
I talked three hours today to the Paiv Transfer Agent at Phone #1- 303-783-9055 and to Scottrade Compliance Dept Phone # 1-800-888-1980 EXT 1900. This is what I found out.
I would first suggest that you find out the phone number of your broker’s Compliance Dept as I did and call them to request your Paiv Restricted Shares be sent to you in your name to your home address.
You must do this otherwise the Brokerages will not do anything to help you. They are out to help themselves... The Transfer Agent and the Company Paiv have done everything they can do, it’s the Brokerages that are not cooperating because they shorted JPHC and Paiv., they got greedy and are now caught in that greed, it is up to the Shereholders of JPHC to start complaining to their Brokerage Compliance Dept. that serves him or her. You as a client signed an agreement with your Brokerage Firm and have every right to do this. The Brokerages have been telling everyone different stories to buy time because they are making huge money from shorting JPHC and PAIV.
This is what I found out today July 14, 2006 about Scottrade who is my broker about my JPHC Shares. Now remember other Brokerages are doing the same thing .This is in three Parts A, B and C.
Part A
All of our JPHC Shares were held in CEDE&CO. All of out JPHC Shares were sent to the PAIV Transfer Agent by CEDE&CO.
The Transfer Agent has all the names and share totals for all JPHC shareholders that were sent to them by CEDE&CO.
This was done two months ago. The Transfer Agent faxed all Brokerages two months ago with detailed instructions for the Brokerages to follow.so that the JPHC shares could be converted to PAIV restricted Shares and sent to the owners of those Paiv Restricted Shares at their home address.
The Transfer Agent asked for the Name, Address, Social Securtity number and the amount of JPHC Shares held in the clients account.
Now how hard is this to do, it is all done electronically.
The Transfer Agent right now has all the PAIV Restricted Shares ready to be mailed out to us at our home addresses.
So why would the Brokerages not do what the Transfer Asked them to do. This is why.
Part B
I found this out while talking to the Transfer Agent, The Transfer Agent added up all the JPHC Shares that CEDE&CO sent them.
There was a HUGE Discrepency in the total JPHC share count that CEDE&CO sent to the Transfer Agent compared to what the Brokerage Participents Share Count.stated.
Why? Because a large number of brokers loaned out JPHC Shares to other participants to cover short sales which caused the huge share price drop in Paiv which caused the huge share number difference in what CEDE&CO sent the Transfer Agent compared to the Brokerage Participants JPHC totals.
For Scottrade my Broker they loaned JPHC Shares to Merill Lynch.
Other Brokerages did the same thing with many different brokerage Firms.
For Scottrade to correct this situation they have to demand the return of all the JPHC Shares from Merill Lynch or Scottrade has to buy in Merill Lynch based on the original transaction with merill Lynch.
This is what Scottrade is trying to get out of and why they along with other brokerage firms are not cooperating with the Transfer Agentfor PAIV.
The Brokerages also want to keep your PAIV Restricted Shares in their own Vault. Why? So when the restriction is lifted they can short the shares and start this process all over again.
They can not do this if you have the Shares in your name held by you. Here is the PAIV Press release for June29, 2006 stating the procedure for the Brokers to follow. I called my Broker Scottrade on June 30, 2006 and was told everything would be taken care of by Scottade and they knew of the Press release issued by Paiv. I called again on July 13, 2006 and was told that my JPHC shares were sent to the T/A and that within 5 days i should have my Paiv shares.
I called again on july 14, 2006 and was told by numerous parties that Compliance was aware of the situation and working on it. I asked for the Compliance Dept number and received another story. I then called the Transfer Agent along with Loyola. The Transfer Agent talked to Scottrade and gave them specific Instrutions for the second time.
These conversations took 3 hours.
Press Release June 29, 2006 Paiv.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060629/0140620.html
PartC
This is what I was advised to do after tallking to the Transfer Agent of Paiv phone # 1-303-783-9055 and the Investor Relation firm Loyola used for Paiv phone # 1-702-317-2300.
I also found out there will be a fee of $25.00 per Cert. If you have two accounts it is $50.00.
By all means call numbers I listed above and ask your own Questions. Use my post for a reference and remember the Broker is out for themselves and making money, expect to be told stories by all the Brokerage firms involved in this fiascal and remember demand your Paiv Restricted Shares sent to your address in your name.
So with this information I found out today and on the advice I was given I called Scottrade Compliance Dept and left a message that I as a Scottrade Clinent and shareholder of JPHC shares will file an SEC Compaint against Scottrade for their refusal in cooperating with the above parties mentioned in giving me my Paiv Restricted Shares that I am entitled to mailed to my home address in my name.. I stated that if I did not have my Restricted Paiv shares within 10 days from today July 14, 2006 I would begin my SEC Complaint. against Scottrade, I will also file a Complaint with
NASD phone # 1-203-375-9609 which is in Connecticut.
http://www.nasd.com/index.htm
SEC Complaint Link
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml
Expect a song and dance from your Brokers saying that Latimere and DTC are involved. Do not fall for this and verify what I am posting here with the Paiv Transfer Agent..
Also I found out that the only way to stop Firms from Shorting Stock is for you the client to ask and sign an agreement with your Broker that they are not to loan your shares out. They will not tell you about this agreement you have to ask them for it. If they do loan your shares out you can sue them.
Putting a Sell order above the price of a stock does not tie your shares up as some think it stops the firms from shorting.
I hope this helps and call your Compliance Dept right away.
LP read this post and Call
Do not beleive the B/S brokers are telling you. Call these phone numbers and verift for yourself. I will be posting this time and time again.
I would also be writing e-mails to your broker, I did with mine.
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Very Important about Brokers and Paiv Shares
I talked three hours today to the Paiv Transfer Agent at Phone #1- 303-783-9055 and to Scottrade Compliance Dept Phone # 1-800-888-1980 EXT 1900. This is what I found out.
I would first suggest that you find out the phone number of your broker’s Compliance Dept as I did and call them to request your Paiv Restricted Shares be sent to you in your name to your home address.
You must do this otherwise the Brokerages will not do anything to help you. They are out to help themselves... The Transfer Agent and the Company Paiv have done everything they can do, it’s the Brokerages that are not cooperating because they shorted JPHC and Paiv., they got greedy and are now caught in that greed, it is up to the Shereholders of JPHC to start complaining to their Brokerage Compliance Dept. that serves him or her. You as a client signed an agreement with your Brokerage Firm and have every right to do this. The Brokerages have been telling everyone different stories to buy time because they are making huge money from shorting JPHC and PAIV.
This is what I found out today July 14, 2006 about Scottrade who is my broker about my JPHC Shares. Now remember other Brokerages are doing the same thing .This is in three Parts A, B and C.
Part A
All of our JPHC Shares were held in CEDE&CO. All of out JPHC Shares were sent to the PAIV Transfer Agent by CEDE&CO.
The Transfer Agent has all the names and share totals for all JPHC shareholders that were sent to them by CEDE&CO.
This was done two months ago. The Transfer Agent faxed all Brokerages two months ago with detailed instructions for the Brokerages to follow.so that the JPHC shares could be converted to PAIV restricted Shares and sent to the owners of those Paiv Restricted Shares at their home address.
The Transfer Agent asked for the Name, Address, Social Securtity number and the amount of JPHC Shares held in the clients account.
Now how hard is this to do, it is all done electronically.
The Transfer Agent right now has all the PAIV Restricted Shares ready to be mailed out to us at our home addresses.
So why would the Brokerages not do what the Transfer Asked them to do. This is why.
Part B
I found this out while talking to the Transfer Agent, The Transfer Agent added up all the JPHC Shares that CEDE&CO sent them.
There was a HUGE Discrepency in the total JPHC share count that CEDE&CO sent to the Transfer Agent compared to what the Brokerage Participents Share Count.stated.
Why? Because a large number of brokers loaned out JPHC Shares to other participants to cover short sales which caused the huge share price drop in Paiv which caused the huge share number difference in what CEDE&CO sent the Transfer Agent compared to the Brokerage Participants JPHC totals.
For Scottrade my Broker they loaned JPHC Shares to Merill Lynch.
Other Brokerages did the same thing with many different brokerage Firms.
For Scottrade to correct this situation they have to demand the return of all the JPHC Shares from Merill Lynch or Scottrade has to buy in Merill Lynch based on the original transaction with merill Lynch.
This is what Scottrade is trying to get out of and why they along with other brokerage firms are not cooperating with the Transfer Agentfor PAIV.
The Brokerages also want to keep your PAIV Restricted Shares in their own Vault. Why? So when the restriction is lifted they can short the shares and start this process all over again.
They can not do this if you have the Shares in your name held by you. Here is the PAIV Press release for June29, 2006 stating the procedure for the Brokers to follow. I called my Broker Scottrade on June 30, 2006 and was told everything would be taken care of by Scottade and they knew of the Press release issued by Paiv. I called again on July 13, 2006 and was told that my JPHC shares were sent to the T/A and that within 5 days i should have my Paiv shares.
I called again on july 14, 2006 and was told by numerous parties that Compliance was aware of the situation and working on it. I asked for the Compliance Dept number and received another story. I then called the Transfer Agent along with Loyola. The Transfer Agent talked to Scottrade and gave them specific Instrutions for the second time.
These conversations took 3 hours.
Press Release June 29, 2006 Paiv.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060629/0140620.html
PartC
This is what I was advised to do after tallking to the Transfer Agent of Paiv phone # 1-303-783-9055 and the Investor Relation firm Loyola used for Paiv phone # 1-702-317-2300.
I also found out there will be a fee of $25.00 per Cert. If you have two accounts it is $50.00.
By all means call numbers I listed above and ask your own Questions. Use my post for a reference and remember the Broker is out for themselves and making money, expect to be told stories by all the Brokerage firms involved in this fiascal and remember demand your Paiv Restricted Shares sent to your address in your name.
So with this information I found out today and on the advice I was given I called Scottrade Compliance Dept and left a message that I as a Scottrade Clinent and shareholder of JPHC shares will file an SEC Compaint against Scottrade for their refusal in cooperating with the above parties mentioned in giving me my Paiv Restricted Shares that I am entitled to mailed to my home address in my name.. I stated that if I did not have my Restricted Paiv shares within 10 days from today July 14, 2006 I would begin my SEC Complaint. against Scottrade, I will also file a Complaint with
NASD phone # 1-203-375-9609 which is in Connecticut.
http://www.nasd.com/index.htm
SEC Complaint Link
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml
Expect a song and dance from your Brokers saying that Latimere and DTC are involved. Do not fall for this and verify what I am posting here with the Paiv Transfer Agent..
Also I found out that the only way to stop Firms from Shorting Stock is for you the client to ask and sign an agreement with your Broker that they are not to loan your shares out. They will not tell you about this agreement you have to ask them for it. If they do loan your shares out you can sue them.
Putting a Sell order above the price of a stock does not tie your shares up as some think it stops the firms from shorting.
I hope this helps and call your Compliance Dept right away.
Very Important about Brokers and Paiv Shares
I talked three hours today to the Paiv Transfer Agent at Phone #1- 303-783-9055 and to Scottrade Compliance Dept Phone # 1-800-888-1980 EXT 1900. This is what I found out.
I would first suggest that you find out the phone number of your broker’s Compliance Dept as I did and call them to request your Paiv Restricted Shares be sent to you in your name to your home address.
You must do this otherwise the Brokerages will not do anything to help you. They are out to help themselves... The Transfer Agent and the Company Paiv have done everything they can do, it’s the Brokerages that are not cooperating because they shorted JPHC and Paiv., they got greedy and are now caught in that greed, it is up to the Shereholders of JPHC to start complaining to their Brokerage Compliance Dept. that serves him or her. You as a client signed an agreement with your Brokerage Firm and have every right to do this. The Brokerages have been telling everyone different stories to buy time because they are making huge money from shorting JPHC and PAIV.
This is what I found out today July 14, 2006 about Scottrade who is my broker about my JPHC Shares. Now remember other Brokerages are doing the same thing .This is in three Parts A, B and C.
Part A
All of our JPHC Shares were held in CEDE&CO. All of out JPHC Shares were sent to the PAIV Transfer Agent by CEDE&CO.
The Transfer Agent has all the names and share totals for all JPHC shareholders that were sent to them by CEDE&CO.
This was done two months ago. The Transfer Agent faxed all Brokerages two months ago with detailed instructions for the Brokerages to follow.so that the JPHC shares could be converted to PAIV restricted Shares and sent to the owners of those Paiv Restricted Shares at their home address.
The Transfer Agent asked for the Name, Address, Social Securtity number and the amount of JPHC Shares held in the clients account.
Now how hard is this to do, it is all done electronically.
The Transfer Agent right now has all the PAIV Restricted Shares ready to be mailed out to us at our home addresses.
So why would the Brokerages not do what the Transfer Asked them to do. This is why.
Part B
I found this out while talking to the Transfer Agent, The Transfer Agent added up all the JPHC Shares that CEDE&CO sent them.
There was a HUGE Discrepency in the total JPHC share count that CEDE&CO sent to the Transfer Agent compared to what the Brokerage Participents Share Count.stated.
Why? Because a large number of brokers loaned out JPHC Shares to other participants to cover short sales which caused the huge share price drop in Paiv which caused the huge share number difference in what CEDE&CO sent the Transfer Agent compared to the Brokerage Participants JPHC totals.
For Scottrade my Broker they loaned JPHC Shares to Merill Lynch.
Other Brokerages did the same thing with many different brokerage Firms.
For Scottrade to correct this situation they have to demand the return of all the JPHC Shares from Merill Lynch or Scottrade has to buy in Merill Lynch based on the original transaction with merill Lynch.
This is what Scottrade is trying to get out of and why they along with other brokerage firms are not cooperating with the Transfer Agentfor PAIV.
The Brokerages also want to keep your PAIV Restricted Shares in their own Vault. Why? So when the restriction is lifted they can short the shares and start this process all over again.
They can not do this if you have the Shares in your name held by you. Here is the PAIV Press release for June29, 2006 stating the procedure for the Brokers to follow. I called my Broker Scottrade on June 30, 2006 and was told everything would be taken care of by Scottade and they knew of the Press release issued by Paiv. I called again on July 13, 2006 and was told that my JPHC shares were sent to the T/A and that within 5 days i should have my Paiv shares.
I called again on july 14, 2006 and was told by numerous parties that Compliance was aware of the situation and working on it. I asked for the Compliance Dept number and received another story. I then called the Transfer Agent along with Loyola. The Transfer Agent talked to Scottrade and gave them specific Instrutions for the second time.
These conversations took 3 hours.
Press Release June 29, 2006 Paiv.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060629/0140620.html
PartC
This is what I was advised to do after tallking to the Transfer Agent of Paiv phone # 1-303-783-9055 and the Investor Relation firm Loyola used for Paiv phone # 1-702-317-2300.
I also found out there will be a fee of $25.00 per Cert. If you have two accounts it is $50.00.
By all means call numbers I listed above and ask your own Questions. Use my post for a reference and remember the Broker is out for themselves and making money, expect to be told stories by all the Brokerage firms involved in this fiascal and remember demand your Paiv Restricted Shares sent to your address in your name.
So with this information I found out today and on the advice I was given I called Scottrade Compliance Dept and left a message that I as a Scottrade Clinent and shareholder of JPHC shares will file an SEC Compaint against Scottrade for their refusal in cooperating with the above parties mentioned in giving me my Paiv Restricted Shares that I am entitled to mailed to my home address in my name.. I stated that if I did not have my Restricted Paiv shares within 10 days from today July 14, 2006 I would begin my SEC Complaint. against Scottrade, I will also file a Complaint with
NASD phone # 1-203-375-9609 which is in Connecticut.
http://www.nasd.com/index.htm
SEC Complaint Link
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml
Expect a song and dance from your Brokers saying that Latimere and DTC are involved. Do not fall for this and verify what I am posting here with the Paiv Transfer Agent..
Also I found out that the only way to stop Firms from Shorting Stock is for you the client to ask and sign an agreement with your Broker that they are not to loan your shares out. They will not tell you about this agreement you have to ask them for it. If they do loan your shares out you can sue them.
Putting a Sell order above the price of a stock does not tie your shares up as some think it stops the firms from shorting.
I hope this helps and call your Compliance Dept right away.
Very Important about Brokers and Paiv Shares
I talked three hours today to the Paiv Transfer Agent at Phone #1- 303-783-9055 and to Scottrade Compliance Dept Phone # 1-800-888-1980 EXT 1900. This is what I found out.
I would first suggest that you find out the phone number of your broker’s Compliance Dept as I did and call them to request your Paiv Restricted Shares be sent to you in your name to your home address.
You must do this otherwise the Brokerages will not do anything to help you. They are out to help themselves... The Transfer Agent and the Company Paiv have done everything they can do, it’s the Brokerages that are not cooperating because they shorted JPHC and Paiv., they got greedy and are now caught in that greed, it is up to the Shereholders of JPHC to start complaining to their Brokerage Compliance Dept. that serves him or her. You as a client signed an agreement with your Brokerage Firm and have every right to do this. The Brokerages have been telling everyone different stories to buy time because they are making huge money from shorting JPHC and PAIV.
This is what I found out today July 14, 2006 about Scottrade who is my broker about my JPHC Shares. Now remember other Brokerages are doing the same thing .This is in three Parts A, B and C.
Part A
All of our JPHC Shares were held in CEDE&CO. All of out JPHC Shares were sent to the PAIV Transfer Agent by CEDE&CO.
The Transfer Agent has all the names and share totals for all JPHC shareholders that were sent to them by CEDE&CO.
This was done two months ago. The Transfer Agent faxed all Brokerages two months ago with detailed instructions for the Brokerages to follow.so that the JPHC shares could be converted to PAIV restricted Shares and sent to the owners of those Paiv Restricted Shares at their home address.
The Transfer Agent asked for the Name, Address, Social Securtity number and the amount of JPHC Shares held in the clients account.
Now how hard is this to do, it is all done electronically.
The Transfer Agent right now has all the PAIV Restricted Shares ready to be mailed out to us at our home addresses.
So why would the Brokerages not do what the Transfer Asked them to do. This is why.
Part B
I found this out while talking to the Transfer Agent, The Transfer Agent added up all the JPHC Shares that CEDE&CO sent them.
There was a HUGE Discrepency in the total JPHC share count that CEDE&CO sent to the Transfer Agent compared to what the Brokerage Participents Share Count.stated.
Why? Because a large number of brokers loaned out JPHC Shares to other participants to cover short sales which caused the huge share price drop in Paiv which caused the huge share number difference in what CEDE&CO sent the Transfer Agent compared to the Brokerage Participants JPHC totals.
For Scottrade my Broker they loaned JPHC Shares to Merill Lynch.
Other Brokerages did the same thing with many different brokerage Firms.
For Scottrade to correct this situation they have to demand the return of all the JPHC Shares from Merill Lynch or Scottrade has to buy in Merill Lynch based on the original transaction with merill Lynch.
This is what Scottrade is trying to get out of and why they along with other brokerage firms are not cooperating with the Transfer Agentfor PAIV.
The Brokerages also want to keep your PAIV Restricted Shares in their own Vault. Why? So when the restriction is lifted they can short the shares and start this process all over again.
They can not do this if you have the Shares in your name held by you. Here is the PAIV Press release for June29, 2006 stating the procedure for the Brokers to follow. I called my Broker Scottrade on June 30, 2006 and was told everything would be taken care of by Scottade and they knew of the Press release issued by Paiv. I called again on July 13, 2006 and was told that my JPHC shares were sent to the T/A and that within 5 days i should have my Paiv shares.
I called again on july 14, 2006 and was told by numerous parties that Compliance was aware of the situation and working on it. I asked for the Compliance Dept number and received another story. I then called the Transfer Agent along with Loyola. The Transfer Agent talked to Scottrade and gave them specific Instrutions for the second time.
These conversations took 3 hours.
Press Release June 29, 2006 Paiv.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060629/0140620.html
PartC
This is what I was advised to do after tallking to the Transfer Agent of Paiv phone # 1-303-783-9055 and the Investor Relation firm Loyola used for Paiv phone # 1-702-317-2300.
I also found out there will be a fee of $25.00 per Cert. If you have two accounts it is $50.00.
By all means call numbers I listed above and ask your own Questions. Use my post for a reference and remember the Broker is out for themselves and making money, expect to be told stories by all the Brokerage firms involved in this fiascal and remember demand your Paiv Restricted Shares sent to your address in your name.
So with this information I found out today and on the advice I was given I called Scottrade Compliance Dept and left a message that I as a Scottrade Clinent and shareholder of JPHC shares will file an SEC Compaint against Scottrade for their refusal in cooperating with the above parties mentioned in giving me my Paiv Restricted Shares that I am entitled to mailed to my home address in my name.. I stated that if I did not have my Restricted Paiv shares within 10 days from today July 14, 2006 I would begin my SEC Complaint. against Scottrade, I will also file a Complaint with
NASD phone # 1-203-375-9609 which is in Connecticut.
http://www.nasd.com/index.htm
SEC Complaint Link
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml
Expect a song and dance from your Brokers saying that Latimere and DTC are involved. Do not fall for this and verify what I am posting here with the Paiv Transfer Agent..
Also I found out that the only way to stop Firms from Shorting Stock is for you the client to ask and sign an agreement with your Broker that they are not to loan your shares out. They will not tell you about this agreement you have to ask them for it. If they do loan your shares out you can sue them.
Putting a Sell order above the price of a stock does not tie your shares up as some think it stops the firms from shorting.
I hope this helps and call your Compliance Dept right away.
New REG SHO reg
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http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/trader/news/2006/technicalupdates/tu2006-010.pdf
shortsinthesand IMO
I think the last Press Release that PAIV put out is forcing Ameritrade and any other firms if involved to make a decision they did not want to make. I have heard that Ameritrade is still in Denial of wrong doing. This is all good for PAIV.
I like what I see and IMO Paiv down the road will be a winner.
PAIV has good management in CEO Bauer.
Atlanta Georgia where Paiv is located is the hottest Telecom place in the USA.
PAIV has worldwide conections in their business. Cingular and T-Mobile are just a few.
VXBX will also add to PAIV Revenues.
June 30 was Quarter end, we should have a good idea when we see the Quarterly Report..
Kg4 your a FRAUD
I will not stop and will expose you for the Fraud you are with your continuous slanderous misleading posts on PAIV. This is the fifth time I am asking you KG4 for the link and article about the story to EXPOSE PAIV as you KG4 state in your post below. I am an investor in PAIV, I have posted Facts on PAIV. Y
As I said before prove ne wrong. You care nothing about the PAIV Investor.
If you do not post the Article or Link the Moderator should ban you KG4 from this Site for posting Misleading and Slanderous posts one after the other on Paiv the Company.
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Here is the your SCAM Post to remind you KG4.
Posted by: KG4In reply to: grush123 who wrote msg# 4177 Date:7/7/2006 1:21:39 PMPost # of 4200
LOL....Gee, one minute nothing I say matters...but now you claim I was scaring the crap out of EVERYBODY???
Also, I am GLAD you made money......as far as not listening to me....um sorry, but I dont believe I ever told you or anybody to sell......I have expressed my opinion that PAIV is a MESS, with quite a fiasco on it's hands and that I prefer not to hold something with so many issues.....regardless, I AM GLAD YOU DIDFNT LISTEN TO ME ALSO...
NOBODY should ACT on anything said on a message board...ask all those that bought those pumping paiv at .009 awhile back, how they feel because they listened to the pump, bought and sold for a huge loss...They shouldnt have listened and should have done proper DD...just as everybody should.....
Lastly, My opinion has not changed one bit...this is a huge fiasco...I do think the company is responsible...I do think money can be made on the games they will play.....but, I would not be surprised one bit if this has a very ugly ending...In fact, most everybody agree's that PAIV is a scam..except those few longs still living in denial...so why you guys are surprised that I dont like PAIV..well, gee whiz....I guess I am part of a HUGE group that thinks PAIV is a very questionable company....
By the way...do you guys know Mark Cuban? Owner of the Dallas Mav's? He obviously has many other business entities as well.....one, which is being launched, will be specializing in exposing 'questionable' companies.
The people running this site are very highly respected people within the investment community......I wont do your DD for you and tell you the name of the company...yall are so good at DD, I am sure you can figure it out.....
How will longs feel when this company does an 'expose' on PAIV, which will hit every newswire there is?
I dont think such highly respected people exposing the many flaws of PAIV, as well as JP and AP...will go un-noticed....These arent message board posters.....These are highly respected people that the street and most investors listen to......
But again, I dont want anybody to lose money...I hope everybody makes a fortune on this scam while you can.....But, dont come yelling at me or blaming me when 'news' starts hitting that isnt too good for paiv, and certainly dont blame me if they get halted or dilute it to worthlessness.....and certainly dont blame me if you find out paiv is doing things you are not aware of.....Blame the company when it happens......
GLTA....
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Stop insulting me and stop your non stop public whining.....proof is in my past posts and/or other public places....I am NOT here to 'show you the way' or do your DD for you...if you cant find it, I suggest doing more thorough DD and stop whining at me to do it for you.......you want to see it? Then open your eyes and start looking....
or wait....time will reveal the truth and you'll know it then....
I have other issues to address and have no time to waste on you, nor intentions to REPOST what has already been posted...have a nice week and good luck....
KG4 your a LIAR, Basher and DisHonest
Post #of 4376
KG4 your statement is Slanderous
I do not care about your past DD. I care about your Post you stating PAIV is a SCAM so lets see the Link and Proof so we can decide for ourselves. I am an Investor in PAIV and want FACTS not Slanderous Statements made against the Company PAIV that are FALSE and Misleading.
Second time KG4 Prove me wrong, where is the Link and Proof PAIV is a SCAM as you state in post 4207 below.
Here is the your SCAM Post to remind you KG4.
Post 4207 KG4
why does every 'scam stock watch site', have paiv listed....I have NOTHING to do with any of those sites, so it appears most know this is a scam..those that dont will be floored and will have their eyes opened however when mark cubans new company does their expose on paiv.......That report will get ALOT of attention, imo....have a nice weekend and go back to RB and your pump machine...I dont visit rb, but was told you use 6 different aliases over there? LOL..why so many?
Posted by: KG4In reply to: A deleted message Date:7/7/2006 7:54:26 PMPost # of 4253
I am not bashing this stock...in fact, I post far less then the so called folks 'pumping' this stock...Additionaly, I try to keep my posts polite and on topic.
This is a public message board. I happen to think there are serious issues with this company.You mention I scare people away? LOL..First of all..I dont post that much on Paiv anymore.....
I would also hope that nobody acts upon something said on a message board and instead do proper dd and make your own decisions....as far as 'costing people profits'...LOL again....
If people are acting upon what is said on a message board, they should not be in this arena..they should do proper dd and listen to themselves.....
I could come back with....."paiv had a nice day today, and will probably have similar wild swings, but in the end it will be worthless and those that listened wont have losses"...but again, I dont expect anybody to buy or sell based on what anybody says but themselves...but you claiming I cost people profits is almost laughable and I'll bet anything I'll one day be able to say "should have listened cause paiv is now worthless and had you listened you wouldnt have lost"...I'll bet I will be able to say it...but
I also bet I will have the respect to not come back and say I told you so.....I wont be happy when PAIV is worthless, I will simply be correct.
I will also sleep good at night knowing I was right, honest and only have good intentions....how will you sleep knowing you have been pumping and dumping this since JPHC days and are still doing it, and you are looking at all these people that listened to your pumps that hold worthless stock.....
C'mon Bigdog...I'll bet you anything..anything at all..you choose....I say those restricted shares you pumped people to hold into this deal will be .0002 or worthless or gone...If one shareholder sells their restricted stock for anything above .0002 in 1 or 2 years, assuming no splits and etc...you win.....lastly, why wont you ever fess up and tell folks that I was part of yalls little private JPHC chatroom, in which anybody not known as a true long was not let in.....
yall were so paranoid about people 'hearing what yall were saying'....and for good reason....It's a shame I didnt print out what yall were saying....about selling....claiming in public your buying, but talking in private about selling?? After the deal, you guys were also going nuts...posting publicly how great it was, but in private everybody admitted the deal sucked and they were trying to unload as it was plumetting..then all the talk about how yall needed to 'work the message boards' to support the share price...Um, that sounds a bit suspicous to me...and all your posts with the false share counts....
At least I am honest and can live with myself and my actions...KNOWING your deceitfulness, well, your the one that has to be judged one day, so keep doing your thing.....and yep...offer still stands........
Paiv will be .0002 or less before any of the restricted shares are able to be sold, legally...they already managed a way to allow restricted shares to be sold illegally without putting a stop to it ( I wonder if any insiders or anybody associated with the company, was buying or selling during this...will you be surprised to find they did? I wont!)
...but I say in 1 year or 2, you wont get squat for your converted JP shares you begged everybody to buy prior to this scam of a deal they did with ap and jp to create paiv.
.....why does every 'scam stock watch site', have paiv listed....I have NOTHING to do with any of those sites, so it appears most know this is a scam..those that dont will be floored and will have their eyes opened however when mark cubans new company does their expose on paiv.......That report will get ALOT of attention, imo....have a nice weekend and go back to RB and your pump machine...I dont visit rb, but was told you use 6 different aliases over there? LOL..why so many?
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KG4 your statement is Slanderous
I do not care about your past DD. I care about your Post you stating PAIV is a SCAM so lets see the Link and Proof so we can decide for ourselves. I am an Investor in PAIV and want FACTS not Slanderous Statements made against the Company PAIV that are FALSE and Misleading.
Second time KG4 Prove me wrong, where is the Link and Proof PAIV is a SCAM as you state in post 4207 below.
Here is the your SCAM Post to remind you KG4.
Post 4207 KG4
why does every 'scam stock watch site', have paiv listed....I have NOTHING to do with any of those sites, so it appears most know this is a scam..those that dont will be floored and will have their eyes opened however when mark cubans new company does their expose on paiv.......That report will get ALOT of attention, imo....have a nice weekend and go back to RB and your pump machine...I dont visit rb, but was told you use 6 different aliases over there? LOL..why so many?
Posted by: KG4In reply to: A deleted message Date:7/7/2006 7:54:26 PMPost # of 4253
I am not bashing this stock...in fact, I post far less then the so called folks 'pumping' this stock...Additionaly, I try to keep my posts polite and on topic.
This is a public message board. I happen to think there are serious issues with this company.You mention I scare people away? LOL..First of all..I dont post that much on Paiv anymore.....
I would also hope that nobody acts upon something said on a message board and instead do proper dd and make your own decisions....as far as 'costing people profits'...LOL again....
If people are acting upon what is said on a message board, they should not be in this arena..they should do proper dd and listen to themselves.....
I could come back with....."paiv had a nice day today, and will probably have similar wild swings, but in the end it will be worthless and those that listened wont have losses"...but again, I dont expect anybody to buy or sell based on what anybody says but themselves...but you claiming I cost people profits is almost laughable and I'll bet anything I'll one day be able to say "should have listened cause paiv is now worthless and had you listened you wouldnt have lost"...I'll bet I will be able to say it...but
I also bet I will have the respect to not come back and say I told you so.....I wont be happy when PAIV is worthless, I will simply be correct.
I will also sleep good at night knowing I was right, honest and only have good intentions....how will you sleep knowing you have been pumping and dumping this since JPHC days and are still doing it, and you are looking at all these people that listened to your pumps that hold worthless stock.....
C'mon Bigdog...I'll bet you anything..anything at all..you choose....I say those restricted shares you pumped people to hold into this deal will be .0002 or worthless or gone...If one shareholder sells their restricted stock for anything above .0002 in 1 or 2 years, assuming no splits and etc...you win.....lastly, why wont you ever fess up and tell folks that I was part of yalls little private JPHC chatroom, in which anybody not known as a true long was not let in.....
yall were so paranoid about people 'hearing what yall were saying'....and for good reason....It's a shame I didnt print out what yall were saying....about selling....claiming in public your buying, but talking in private about selling?? After the deal, you guys were also going nuts...posting publicly how great it was, but in private everybody admitted the deal sucked and they were trying to unload as it was plumetting..then all the talk about how yall needed to 'work the message boards' to support the share price...Um, that sounds a bit suspicous to me...and all your posts with the false share counts....
At least I am honest and can live with myself and my actions...KNOWING your deceitfulness, well, your the one that has to be judged one day, so keep doing your thing.....and yep...offer still stands........
Paiv will be .0002 or less before any of the restricted shares are able to be sold, legally...they already managed a way to allow restricted shares to be sold illegally without putting a stop to it ( I wonder if any insiders or anybody associated with the company, was buying or selling during this...will you be surprised to find they did? I wont!)
...but I say in 1 year or 2, you wont get squat for your converted JP shares you begged everybody to buy prior to this scam of a deal they did with ap and jp to create paiv.
.....why does every 'scam stock watch site', have paiv listed....I have NOTHING to do with any of those sites, so it appears most know this is a scam..those that dont will be floored and will have their eyes opened however when mark cubans new company does their expose on paiv.......That report will get ALOT of attention, imo....have a nice weekend and go back to RB and your pump machine...I dont visit rb, but was told you use 6 different aliases over there? LOL..why so many?
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KG4 I never asked you for any DD as you state.
It is obvious you are not going to be ETHICAL or HONEST enough to post your DD on PAIV being a SCAM as you stated.
I pleasently asked you to post your Facts and Links, I have posted some of my DD.
You deface the Company PAIV with no Facts just opinion.
You KG4 have lost all credibility on this Board, you had your chance to prove yourself CREDIBLE to all the posters here but you choose to hide behind your words and opinions with no Facts.
I have never attacked you since I started posting on this Board.
You are spreading FALSE and MISLEADING STATEMENTS about the Company PAIV which I have an investment in.
Now I have no choice but to tell it like it is.
Your a BASHER, LIAR, and a COWARD, you deserve no respect and IMO you should be held accountable for your FALSE statements in spreading these vicious Lies about the Company PAIV.
Prove me wrong COWARD.
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KG4 Post
Listen...EVERY single time yall asked me for facts..you had me doing YOUR DD for you...I was spending ALOT of time pulling stuff and posting links dircetly from sec filings and other legit sources...
It didnt matter if I posted DIRECTLY FROM SEC FILINGS, I still had every nut on this board jumping all over me telling me how wrong I was...and these were links from SEC FILINGS!!!!
So, if people are going to refute stuff directly from SEC filings, and say "thats wrong", then why bother??
You like Paiv? Great..post all day about how much you like it...I dont like it.....and I HAVE posted plenty of DD and LINKS to FACTS.....You guys just chose to not believe it and keep not believing it, but in the end, the truth shall prevail, it always does and that truth, imo, will show paiv to be the scam I think it is and most on wallstreet think it is.
Now, do you guys really want me to stop posting or not??? IF YES, I have made it very clear to stop posting to me or about me and this so called 'basher' ( LMAO) will be gone...I'll pop in, but I certainly wont be posting frequently here if you guys ever figure out how to NOT post TO me or ABOUT me....
For some reason, yall just cannot grasp that simple fact and seem to 'want' me here, based on the non stop posts to me or about me.....
Posted by: same53
In reply to: KG4 who wrote msg# 4224
Date:7/8/2006 3:25:40 PM
Post #of 4236
KG4 One last time,
You state
Sorry...I have spent too much time doing yalls DD FOR YOU, only for yall to refute everything I say, even if it is pulled from sec filings!! LMAO
You say you post in a respectable way with intelligence. You look for the same, So do I, but I also post facts like the DD I did on JPHC, Macro, VXBX and Paiv.
You see I am reposting some of the DD I did with facts and Links. It is not hard to repost DD.
So far I have read your posts with respect. If you want to be considered a credible poster lets see your Links on Paiv being a Scam as you have stated.
It is your statement that PAIV is a Scam, put up your DD, the facts with Links, not opinions, for everyone to decide for themselves if pAIV is a Scam.
It is your REPUTATION on the line. I am asking you KG4 in a respectable manner. Lets see the Facts and Links that PAIV is a SCAM..
Posted by: same53
In reply to: None
Date:5/18/2006 11:02:02 AM
Post #of 101
Macro and Paivis Will be Great, DD read
First of all let me state that I think this deal is great. The CEO of JPHC Ray Hawkins saved $100 o $200 thousand Dollars in filing fees and was no waiting period to get on the OTC.OB. We are now going to be a fully reporting OTC.OB Company. Brilliant move by the CEO of JPHC. More exposure, better financing, more shareholders and more value.
Second Mr Bauer has turned Macro Communications around from a company in trouble to a Profitable Company. Mt Bauer will be the President of Macro and will have IMO 30 Million a year in Revenues.
Third Macro works with VoxBox this is another JPHC Company on the move. Read my past DD below.
From May 15, 2006 PR
Paivis has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock with Jupiter's shareholders at an exchange ratio that valued the Jupiter shares at $0.005 per common share whereby Jupiter shareholders will receive approximately 0.46232 of a share of Paivis common stock. No fractional shares will be issued in the share exchange.
A new symbol will be assigned reflecting the name change from APO Health, Inc. to Paivis, Corp. The current management of Paivis and Jupiter will not continue with the successor entity. A new team of experienced management will be brought in, and the current management of Macro Communications, Inc., the core operating subsidiary of Jupiter, will take a leading role in the management of the merged companies.
http://www.macrosouth.com/
Founded in 1997, Macro's successful line of prepaid products and services includes over 50 brands, with a distribution network of over 8,000 storefronts and access to more than 230 countries.
http://www.macrosouth.com/aboutus.html
Services Pre Paid Cards
http://www.macrosouth.com/services.html
Read about Macro this JPHC Company is Awesome
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10369523
Read about VOXBOX a VOIP Company with Huge Potential.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10391778
Post on 8K Filed May 17, 2006 Paivis Is cleared of Lawsuits
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11163977
Conversion Post
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=52385
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KG4 post
Sorry...I have spent too much time doing yalls DD FOR YOU, only for yall to refute everything I say, even if it is pulled from sec filings!! LMAO
No matter what I post, it will be wrong...and since yall seem to be such great experts on DD, I shouldnt have to do it for you....this has been going on for how long now, and yall dont know the sites discussing this scam??? LOL.....
No biggie......Keep your eyes peeled to the newswires...from there, if you still cant dind the sites that deal with issues such as these, I suggest not investing in the penny arena anymore.....these are very important sites for anybody investing in penny's, yet yall claim to not know what or where they are???
LOL...OK...whatever.....awesome dd by yall? NOT!!
KG4 One last time,
You state
Sorry...I have spent too much time doing yalls DD FOR YOU, only for yall to refute everything I say, even if it is pulled from sec filings!! LMAO
You say you post in a respectable way with intelligence. You look for the same, So do I, but I also post facts like the DD I did on JPHC, Macro, VXBX and Paiv.
You see I am reposting some of the DD I did with facts and Links. It is not hard to repost DD.
So far I have read your posts with respect. If you want to be considered a credible poster lets see your Links on Paiv being a Scam as you have stated.
It is your statement that PAIV is a Scam, put up your DD, the facts with Links, not opinions, for everyone to decide for themselves if pAIV is a Scam.
It is your REPUTATION on the line. I am asking you KG4 in a respectable manner. Lets see the Facts and Links that PAIV is a SCAM..
Posted by: same53
In reply to: None
Date:5/18/2006 11:02:02 AM
Post #of 101
Macro and Paivis Will be Great, DD read
First of all let me state that I think this deal is great. The CEO of JPHC Ray Hawkins saved $100 o $200 thousand Dollars in filing fees and was no waiting period to get on the OTC.OB. We are now going to be a fully reporting OTC.OB Company. Brilliant move by the CEO of JPHC. More exposure, better financing, more shareholders and more value.
Second Mr Bauer has turned Macro Communications around from a company in trouble to a Profitable Company. Mt Bauer will be the President of Macro and will have IMO 30 Million a year in Revenues.
Third Macro works with VoxBox this is another JPHC Company on the move. Read my past DD below.
From May 15, 2006 PR
Paivis has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock with Jupiter's shareholders at an exchange ratio that valued the Jupiter shares at $0.005 per common share whereby Jupiter shareholders will receive approximately 0.46232 of a share of Paivis common stock. No fractional shares will be issued in the share exchange.
A new symbol will be assigned reflecting the name change from APO Health, Inc. to Paivis, Corp. The current management of Paivis and Jupiter will not continue with the successor entity. A new team of experienced management will be brought in, and the current management of Macro Communications, Inc., the core operating subsidiary of Jupiter, will take a leading role in the management of the merged companies.
http://www.macrosouth.com/
Founded in 1997, Macro's successful line of prepaid products and services includes over 50 brands, with a distribution network of over 8,000 storefronts and access to more than 230 countries.
http://www.macrosouth.com/aboutus.html
Services Pre Paid Cards
http://www.macrosouth.com/services.html
Read about Macro this JPHC Company is Awesome
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10369523
Read about VOXBOX a VOIP Company with Huge Potential.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10391778
Post on 8K Filed May 17, 2006 Paivis Is cleared of Lawsuits
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11163977
Conversion Post
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=52385
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KG4 post
Sorry...I have spent too much time doing yalls DD FOR YOU, only for yall to refute everything I say, even if it is pulled from sec filings!! LMAO
No matter what I post, it will be wrong...and since yall seem to be such great experts on DD, I shouldnt have to do it for you....this has been going on for how long now, and yall dont know the sites discussing this scam??? LOL.....
No biggie......Keep your eyes peeled to the newswires...from there, if you still cant dind the sites that deal with issues such as these, I suggest not investing in the penny arena anymore.....these are very important sites for anybody investing in penny's, yet yall claim to not know what or where they are???
LOL...OK...whatever.....awesome dd by yall? NOT!!
KG4 Post a Link on the Scam Stock Sites
You Posted
why does every 'scam stock watch site', have paiv listed.
Lets see these articles and links KG4 about Paiv. Posting Facts is real DD, opinions are not. So lets see those links you say show Paiv as a scam for all of us to read and decide.
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I am not bashing this stock...in fact, I post far less then the so called folks 'pumping' this stock...
Additionaly, I try to keep my posts polite and on topic.
This is a public message board. I happen to think there are serious issues with this company.
You mention I scare people away? LOL..First of all..I dont post that much on Paiv anymore.....I would also hope that nobody acts upon something said on a message board and instead do proper dd and make your own decisions....as far as 'costing people profits'...LOL again....If people are acting upon what is said on a message board, they should not be in this arena..they should do proper dd and listen to themselves.....
I could come back with....."paiv had a nice day today, and will probably have similar wild swings, but in the end it will be worthless and those that listened wont have losses"...but again, I dont expect anybody to buy or sell based on what anybody says but themselves...but you claiming I cost people profits is almost laughable and I'll bet anything I'll one day be able to say "should have listened cause paiv is now worthless and had you listened you wouldnt have lost"...I'll bet I will be able to say it...but I also bet I will have the respect to not come back and say I told you so.....
I wont be happy when PAIV is worthless, I will simply be correct. I will also sleep good at night knowing I was right, honest and only have good intentions....how will you sleep knowing you have been pumping and dumping this since JPHC days and are still doing it, and you are looking at all these people that listened to your pumps that hold worthless stock.....C'mon Bigdog...I'll bet you anything..anything at all..you choose....I say those restricted shares you pumped people to hold into this deal will be .0002 or worthless or gone...If one shareholder sells their restricted stock for anything above .0002 in 1 or 2 years, assuming no splits and etc...you win.....
lastly, why wont you ever fess up and tell folks that I was part of yalls little private JPHC chatroom, in which anybody not known as a true long was not let in.....yall were so paranoid about people 'hearing what yall were saying'....and for good reason....It's a shame I didnt print out what yall were saying....about selling....claiming in public your buying, but talking in private about selling?? After the deal, you guys were also going nuts...posting publicly how great it was, but in private everybody admitted the deal sucked and they were trying to unload as it was plumetting..then all the talk about how yall needed to 'work the message boards' to support the share price...Um, that sounds a bit suspicous to me...and all your posts with the false share counts....At least I am honest and can live with myself and my actions...KNOWING your deceitfulness, well, your the one that has to be judged one day, so keep doing your thing.....
and yep...offer still stands........Paiv will be .0002 or less before any of the restricted shares are able to be sold, legally...they already managed a way to allow restricted shares to be sold illegally without putting a stop to it ( I wonder if any insiders or anybody associated with the company, was buying or selling during this...will you be surprised to find they did? I wont!)...but I say in 1 year or 2, you wont get squat for your converted JP shares you begged everybody to buy prior to this scam of a deal they did with ap and jp to create paiv. .....
why does every 'scam stock watch site', have paiv listed....I have NOTHING to do with any of those sites, so it appears most know this is a scam..those that dont will be floored and will have their eyes opened however when mark cubans new company does their expose on paiv.......That report will get ALOT of attention, imo....have a nice weekend and go back to RB and your pump machine...I dont visit rb, but was told you use 6 different aliases over there? LOL..why so many?
Ameritrade and other Brokers
I would suggest that anyone haveing problems with their Brokers in converting the JPHC shares to Paiv Shares (especially Ameritrade) go over your brokers head to the Compliance dept, first call and voice your concerns and then write a certified letter to the Complinace dept on your concerns.
Also call the Transfer Agent listed in the Paiv Press release June 29, 3006 and ask Questions.
Buzzard63 All JPHC Shares
Going into the Merger are restricted. Check the Press release on the dates used.
I emailed the Company June 28th
How can the State Of Nevada web Site be wrong? It is documented information from the Company.
I asked these Questions, I suggest every one here do the same or at least call.
I called again this morning.
Can you tell me what your current share structure is to include the
Authorized Shares
Outstanding Shares
Restricted Shares held by Management
The Float as of today
Also do you plan any S-8 shares in the near future.
Who do you use for finacing and do you plan on releasing and Financial Reports on the Companies progress.
I like the ideas your Company is putting forth and it seems management really has their act togeather.
Thankyou,
XXXXXXX
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Anyone see this Auth Shares
Got this from another Board
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=TNsNkmukyd%252fgGuM%252bbvruRQ%253d%253d
A/S 4,520,500,000.00 as of 5-11-06
I wonder what the Float is, I tried contacting the Company nothing yet. Phone # 954-509-3726 Marlene
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From Pink Sheets old Auth Shares
Country of Incorporation: USA
Year of Incorporation 2005
Officers:
Steve Bazsuly, Chairman; Robert Sampson, COO; David Langle, CFO; Jim VanEvery, CTO/Treasurer; Bob Pianka, Chief Prod. Officer; J. Martin, Secretary
Fiscal Year End: September 30
Edgar Filing Status: Non EDGAR Filer
Sedar Filing Status: Non SEDAR Filer
Outstanding Shares: Not Available
Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Authorized Shares: 500,000,000 as of 2005-09-15
Float: 7,564,529 as of 2005-11-08
Number of Shareholders of Record: 371 as of
Anyone see this Auth Shares
Got this from another Board
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=TNsNkmukyd%252fgGuM%252bbvruRQ%253d%253d
A/S 4,520,500,000.00 as of 5-11-06
I wonder what the Float is, I tried contacting the Company nothing yet. Phone # 954-509-3726 Marlene
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From Pink Sheets old Auth Shares
Country of Incorporation: USA
Year of Incorporation 2005
Officers:
Steve Bazsuly, Chairman; Robert Sampson, COO; David Langle, CFO; Jim VanEvery, CTO/Treasurer; Bob Pianka, Chief Prod. Officer; J. Martin, Secretary
Fiscal Year End: September 30
Edgar Filing Status: Non EDGAR Filer
Sedar Filing Status: Non SEDAR Filer
Outstanding Shares: Not Available
Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Authorized Shares: 500,000,000 as of 2005-09-15
Float: 7,564,529 as of 2005-11-08
Number of Shareholders of Record: 371 as of
News about the certs explained
By: dallas66tx
03 Jul 2006, 05:40 PM EDT
Msg. 7194 of 7199
Jump to msg. #
News about the certs.
I spent about an hour and a half with both the TA and ATD trying to get things clarified concerning the certs. To make this as simple as possible I will do a Q&A type post.
Q. Do they know who the owners of record are?
A. PER THE TA...(Sandra) She has FINALLY received a verified listing of shareholders of record for both JPHC and APOA shareholders.
Q. What is the date of record for the restricted shares?
A. May 11, 2006 is the date of record for the start of the restriction.
Q. When will my broker account reflect my new PAIV RESTRICTED shares?
A. Your broker account WILL NOT REFLECT RESTRICTED PAIV SHARES.
Per the TA, the merger agreement dictated that all restricted shares were to be mailed directly to the shareholder of record and not the shareholders broker. The TA is currently in the process of contacting each broker for the official mailing address of each shareholder of record. Once the TA receives your personal mailing address from your broker, AND the cert they hold for YOUR JPHC shares, they will mail YOU a cert for your RESTRICTED PAIV shares. Per the TA, she said she hopes to have all PAIV RESTRICTED certs mailed out by end of July....pending cooporation of the brokers in forwarding your JPHC certs and personal mailing address. She also indicated she was receiving some resistance from ATD on this....imagine that.
Q. What is the cost for receiving my cert from the TA and what is the cost when I choose to sell the shares?
A. There is no cost to you to RECEIVE your certs for RESTRICTED PAIV shares. However, since these shares are governed under SEC rule 144, in order to sell shares between year one and year two, you will need to fill out a form requesting the restriction be removed. You will also be charged the following amount by the TA.
Total cost of $61 per the TA
$40 to remove the restriction
$20 to produce/mail new cert
$1 to cancel old cert
If this is done between year one and two, the restriction removal is good for 90 DAYS ONLY. YOU MUST SUBMIT AN EXTENSION REQUEST BEFORE THE END OF THE 90 DAYS OR PAY AN ADITIONAL $61 TO HAVE THE RESTRICTION REMOVED AGAIN. Keep in mind between year one and two there are still some restrictions on selling shares.
After year two...a one time fee of $61 per the TA.
You then must deal with your broker on how to handle selling your shares. They will require your cert, and you MAY incur an additional cost to have your cert put in street name. My understanding is that once YOU possess your cert, the requirement that the TA mail it to you has been satisfied, and you are free to do as you wish with your cert within SEC guidelines...if you choose to have your broker hold your shares in street name, then you can do that per their requirments/cost structure. Then I would assume your normal broker fees to sell would come in to play.
Q. What if I chose to wait 5 years to sell?
A. The TA requires a fee of $61 to remove the restriction legend and reissue a new cert. So no matter how long you choose to wait, it's gonna cost $61...or more by then...depending on if they raise their rates.
Q. What about the "restricted" PAIV shares that were sold as free trade shares through TDAmeritrade? How will those shares be accounted for?
A. You must contact TDAmeritrade or the SEC. The TA has no involvement or opinion concerning that investigation.
Q. I bought "free trade" PAIV shares on the open market the first day PAIV started trading, and I'm sure shares I purchased were "restricted" shares from the ATD fiasco. How do I verify those shares are real and not restricted?
A. As an individual that purchased "free trade" shares on the open market, you can request a securities certification certificate from your broker. Your broker is required by law to surrender in your name any securities certificates they may hold for you. You will be responsible for the cost of having your broker deliver the certificates to you. In the event they are unable to do so, or refuse to deliver your certificates, your recourse is through the legal system.
Q. Will ATD be required to buy back at "market price" all the restricted shares they allowed to be sold? How long do they have to remove these shares from the open market?
A. The TA has no comment or opinion concerning ATD's involvment with the sale of restricted securities. You must contact the SEC or ATD for information.
Read this and Call the Transfer Agent
Posters say they read the Paiv PR,then they say Paiv does not know what they are doing. No mention of Ameritrade being at fault.
Did you ever think about calling the Transfer Agent? It may help!
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By: stardate2006
03 Jul 2006, 10:32 AM EDT
Msg. 7191 of 7192
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if you have question about your certs call the transfer agent.
They have been given instructions on who gets the certs.
Your broker may give you a different story.
There are too many opinions on this board and some may know what they are talking about and some may seem to know.
I called the TA and was told we get the certs.
The transfer agent for Paivis is Executive Registrar & Transfer,Inc. 3615 South Huron Street, Suite 104 Englewood, CO 80110 Jack Donnelly Ph. 303-783-9055 ("Executive Transfer").
DTC is not involved
Where do you see them mentioned in the latest PR explaing the restricted shares and what to do.
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Reply from Ameritrade
Dear ****
Thank you for your email. Our reorganization department is working with the DTC and the transfer agent regarding this issue. The DTC is in the process of requesting the physical certificates from the agent so that you may receive the restricted PAIV shares. There is no further action required on your part. If we do need anything further we will send you an email.
Sincerely,
Client Services
Ameritrade Izone
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.
SEC Comments on Fraud 4-520
http://www.sec.gov/comments/4-520/4-520.shtml
serfdom my understanding is
That the Brokers will send your shares to the Transfer Agent. This first means all share will be accounted for.
Notice that the DTC is not mentioned in the PR. IMO they do not want anything to do with this issue it was so Blatant.
The Transfer Agent will send the converted Paiv Shares to you in your name to your address.
You will have the Certs in hand from what I understand.
This means we hold all the Paiv shares and they the Brokers can not short them.
Who ever in the Company thought of this is a genius.
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LOL! Ameritrade is screwed IMO - that's a manual cert exchange.
They will be left twisting in the wind, becasue the only way to get restricted stock to cover their short butts is to hand over JPHC shares - which they are probably also short on.
Thoughts?
I expect to see good things
June 30 is Quarter end so with in 45 days from June 30 we see how Paiv is doing
Bid 0048 t0 Ask 0056
Imagine that
strawman I saw it
Someone thinks their funny I guess, imature IMO.
eaglemdl Oil Sand Extraction and AMSN
Id AMSN doing Oil Sand Extraction at the present time. Do you have a link or article to put up showing AMSN has this capability. I could not find one. This is huge stuff.
Thanks
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oh, sorry, i didnt read your first one. yeah, prettty sure its the same stuff. prob on a smaller scale though.
Heres a better Link on Suncore Oil and Sand
http://www.suncor.ca/start.aspx
Just watched 60 Minutes
They had a Compny called Suncore from Colorado doing work in Alberta Canada the link is below. It is about Oil in Sand extraction. They said it could surpass the Middle East. Is Amerossi into this type of Oil Sand Extraction?
http://www.canadianbusinessdirectory.ca/historyab_suncore_energy_and_fort_mcmurray.htm
nukuhiva No I do not agree
The CEO does not have to make a move and IMO will not. He has enough to do running the Company and getting new clients that is his job and he is good at it. Let him do his job.
The SEC has do do its investigation, the Company can't do anything or say anything while this is going on.
Ameritrade caused this not the Company, Complain to Ameritrade and write the SEC like many of us have. Also pull your certs from your Broker like a lot of us are doing.
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AT is still short billions , SEC is watching until when ?
Paivis is doing his business, set up a new website but can't release any PR ...
the restricted shares are still in transit ...
The Ceo now of Paivis need to make a move ASAP..
Past DD on Macro and VXBX now Paivis
This is all Paivis now.
Services Pre Paid Cards
http://www.macrosouth.com/services.html
Read about Macro this JPHC Company is Awesome
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Read about VOXBOX a VOIP Company with Huge Potential.
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'KG4 I would like to hear your reasons
If you do not mind.
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Actually, A little more DD and you would see just how well I did trading JPHC and how excited I was about the prospects for MACRO going to a medium to large telco......
Did I sour on it when they announced the deal with APO? Yep...just like most investors did. And for very good reason, imo.....