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QUOTE: I'm Up 30% last year so I'm not complaining about any stocks I own shares in. Jmo
Bullish
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100% hot air balloon profits on a 100% failure of a company.
I wonder why when I saw them pop the Chinese balloon SFRX came to mind.
....and we always fail.to note that MFG NEVER had issues with BAR.
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO APPLES TO APPLES!!
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Who are you addressing? I NEVER said they did.
If SFRX wants new investors, why aren’t they showing data instead of making questionable claims about Mel Fisher’s Treasures?
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EXACTLY
The Timmy Toy panic is palpable. The permit……
is coming and the clock will start.
Will it only take a weekend, or near two decades to find the “alleged” $15B?
Grabbing more popcorn.
Who’s gonna be left standing when the music stops?
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Yes, show and tell time. I'm looking forward to it. I don't think more bullshit will carry this much further. As I previously stated a 'fall flat on you ass' forthcoming.
Quote: Didn't it take Mel Fischer 14 years to find the Atocha?
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It seems that inevitably you fall back onto the same excuse. The major difference was that Fisher had already achieved success recovering treasure on 1715 wrecks and later on 1733 wrecks in the Florida Keys. And, yes, eventually he found the 1622 Atocha but finding treasure all the way. Although I personally don't approve his methods, he was a experienced veteran in contrast this SFRX CEO who has proven himself to be a three ring circus master. The clown of clowns.
Quote: I invest in GREAT companies which is why I invested in SFRX.
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Please enlighten me and others. How is SFRX a great company? So just because you and others have made hot air balloon profits 'it's a great company'
SFRX is a total failure as a treasure hunting company having never ever found one shipwreck in near two decades. Never worked a shipwreck, never found treasure and the new 'we're a high tec. company now doesn't hold much water either. No verifiable proof / evidence the Timmy Toy does much of anything but, hey, it sure looks good cosmetically.
By the way, just loved that lecture about cannon balls. That's all? Are they kidding?
I find it amazing this company is still going, running on just hot air B.S. with no substance, but the day's coming when its going to fall flat on its ass. Oh yes, a great company.
Quote: Kyle later admitted they didn’t know if the wreck or treasure was even there.
How could a professional makes such an amateurish mistake?
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Because he's not a professional, never has been. An amateur indeed. It's evident he hasn't learned anything in going on two decades in the business. As long as they can continue pumping hot air into the ole balloon and stockholders are making money, how cares about actual shipwrecks and treasure (something they know nothing about).
Quote: That is great news and why everyone (shareholders) are so excited!!!
Kick ASS!!!
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Just remembering you're on a hot air balloon ride. In reality no substance. A company of total failure in every aspect. Remember how to pull the ripcord on the parachute.
Quote: Enjoy the NOT EVEN A TRINKET RALLY.
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A most appropriate title. All total hot air profits based upon speculation momentum.
The company is a total failure as treasure hunters and as a high tec. company the success of the Timmy Toy certainly appears got be a grand flop as well.
Hey, for their stockholders what's the difference, they're making money on this 'NOT EVEN A TRINKET RALLY'.
How exciting!!
Twiddle Doom and SME are getting so nervous that are attacking at all levels…..
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If you're implying I'm nervous whatever for? For me this is just a on going Marathon of clown town entertainment.
What might be exciting is if these stumble-bum's ever actually learned how to find treasure and recover it. It's inconceivable that in going on two decades this group of amateurs have not been able to produce one genuine treasure wreck site of their own.
Quote:I hate to burst your bubble but hot air balloons don't stay in the air for years. Real shareholders are enjoying the ride higher!!! No guts no glory!! Jmo
Bullish
BULLISH
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It's the bubble you're currently floating on you had better worry about.
No guts no glory. What ever would you know about that?
Quote: Yes indeed, the tech is the real deal.
I enjoy watching the interviews. Just a matter of time, they will find treasure eventually.
Bullish
BULLISH
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So you say 'the real deal', so baed on what? No factual evidence whatsoever. As the hot air balloon continues its assent and profits are made, stockholders are obviously giddy, but keep it in mind that it just a balloon ride. There is no substance - no facts. Make sure you have your parachute and have the common sense knowing when to bail out.
Quote: Instead of the Torres Rally, should we……
call this the Teredo Crust Rally or the Corp Permit Rally?
Let’s go with the latter for now.
Then when they hit the crust and need to invent a pooper scooper that will penetrate it we’ll see what the price action is like.
The narrative is so important.
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Its rather hard to believe all this upward momentum is running on zero performance in any sector. Purely on speculative bullshit.
The Corp permit will lead to BILLION$ no doubt, but SFRX still needs to meet revenue requirements, which will take time.
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This circus is fast coming to the point of falling right off the cliff. Thats my opinion. There is no validated wreck, (at either site). there is no treasure and absolutely no verifiable evidence that this ridiculous top tec. toy does anything.
And then there's the UNESCO Underwater Cultural Heritage Treaty. Although this is not pertinent to Florida at this time, nevertheless they adhere to the concepts. Governments/Academics are totally hostile to 'treasure hunters' (SFRX now under the guise of being a high tec development company) and the absurdity of blatantly saying we go for the gold is highly naive on SFRX behalf. I believe Max is undoubtedly intelligent and sincere but in the knowledge of shipwrecks, remote sensing methods of finding them and proofing anomalies, he's still sucking on the baby bottle as is the CEO.
..you spend a lot of time opining on stuff you have no line of sight… BTW, it is obvious.
So I guess Peter and Max are both dumbasses, and Kyle has lied to two seasoned technology investors for years. Investors that have publicly stated they have a physical presence within the leadership of the company.
You and tweedle doom are correct about a clown show, but it only has two participants.
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The lure of sunken treasure does things to even the intelligent.
Well, I suppose if they can't produce instrumentation that works one may well call them dumbasses. To be sucked in believing and obviously supporting the treasure value fairytales
that Kennedy has been spewing, they're already more than half way there to earning the title.
I continue to find it interesting how you evade issues like the professional merit of on-site simulation tests or why this super toy has thus far produced a zero performance track record. Oh, that's right it's still under technological development. What a crock.
As to clown shows, SFRX has been just that since its inception. Counting on towards two decades. Never have found a shipwreck, never worked a shipwreck, never found any treasure and flaunts the development technology that has a zero performance record.
I suppose credit where credit is due, that being masterful in keeping the hot air balloon aloft and knowing how to sweep the dog shit under the carpet. Certainly takes some doing.
Quote: That response was completely void of any intimate knowledge of how technology development works…..
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It becomes more than obvious that the Toy's failure will be covered over under the category of on going 'technology development'. How long the masquerade will continue is an interesting question.
Any serious 'technology developer' would have done real at sea / on a wreck site simulation tests. I have posted this procedure in some detail previously but with amateurs I doubt if it sank in. Of course to have performed these suggested simulation tests would have inevitably exposed the toys inability to do what it is claimed it can do.
Quote: How do you measure failure with technology you know nothing about?
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What one knows about it isn't even relative.
The bottom line is performance and RESULTS. Obviously there are no results. Drawing a conclusion is actually rather simple. Either the CEO's B.S. statements of billions in treasure being there to be found at Melbourne and Juno is exactly that - B.S. (it is in my opinion) or the see all know all Timmy Toy just doesn't perform. Belly floppers on both counts.
Quote: Looks like Old Charter Salvage got it wrong by a lot! SFRX is on the case! Great stuff!
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Forget about 'Old Charter'. If anyone got it wrong its this bunch of amateurs (SFRX), having not the common sense to realize Juno is a dud site.
Quote: Old Charter Salvage, who was Judd’s previous partner thought the structural remains were from wreck that sank in a 1904 hurricane, but SFRX says mid 1500’s….lol
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There is no archival documentation that supports the loss of a 'Santa Margarita' in 1595, putting that in the category of a 'ghost galleon'.
Regardless, the site contains nothing. All indications the ship was scuttled there. No cannons, no anchors, no treasure.
Quote: Mel Fishers Treasures denies the Juno valuation Kyle…….
gave, and anyone who would believe such is a novice at best. A valuation is based on the value of known cargo not an anchor or nail size, so good luck with that Corp permit. They’ve never even ID the wreck.
After Kyle regurgitated the $15B valuation he claimed came from MFT once again, I went to the “alleged” source, and they EMPHATICALLY denied it.
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What the amateur minds fail to understand or prefer not to understand is the fact that the Juno wreck - the ballast pile is totally devoid of cannons. Based upon the size of the ballast pile, this ship would have been armed with no less than 40 plus cannons. No cannons, no treasure. Why? Because in all likelihood she was anchored and stripped with all content transferred onto another vessel or vessels. That's also why no other anchors but the one. A similar incident occurred with the Spanish plate fleet of 1691. The Almiranta of the fleet developed serious leaks beyond repair, thus with the sea reasonably calm, everything was transferred off of her before she sank.
The Juno Beach site by all indications is a ship that was scuttled. Not a ship that foundered or hit a reef and sank. All evidence spells this out but certainly not to a amateur outfit the likes of SFRX. Clearly in fifteen years they have learned little. As I have stated before, real experienced professionals such as Robert Marx, Duke Long and others spent considerable time diving and exploring this site and its surroundings and came up with nothing. Now SFRX with its silly "high tec" toy is going to (or has) survey the site and miraculously discover 14 billion (or whatever bullshit amount Kennedy has stated).
I have no objections or resentment towards anyone making money on these hot air balloon rides as this is what it's all about I suppose. As an observer here what I personally resent is all the misrepresentations, and intentionally misleading bullshit that's so eagerly thrown about for the sole purpose of pushing the stock up. Never facts, just gonna be wanna be speculations. So by all means enjoy the ride and make money but don't forget to wear your parachute.
Quote: Kyle was saying that years ago, I’m sure he say it again as long as there are buyers.
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...And as long as he can suck in the 350k a year salary based on incompetence and total failure.
Quote:You might end up having to admit that technology changes! The sailors that dived to recover treasure in the 15/16 centuries, figured they had the latest way of recovery also! technology changes. Jmo
Bullish
BULLISH
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The hot air balloon rush upward has obviously made one giddy. Recovery of what? This company has never found a wreck, salvaged treasure or developed technology that is even proven to work. The balloon goes up and the balloon assuredly will come done. The key is that the bottom feeders will know just when to sell.
Quote: Hot air balloons don't stay up that long. Jmo
Bullish
BULLISH
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You are absolutely right. I'm sure you have a certified parachute.
Quote: SFRX is on the move higher!!! Nice!! Now where did I leave that crow I have been saving for a couple of folks? Maybe I'll bring some cheese with also!!! Jmo
Bullish
BULLISH
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Hot air balloons rise as they always do but eventually come down crashing like a Lead Zeppelin.
Money to be made is obviously clear but there is no substance. No shipwreck, no treasure, no technology that's proven to work; nothing. The clown show. Always was and always will be.
Quote: Only in your wildest dreams are shareholders panicking!!!
The panic is from those that have opined negatively on SFRX technology.
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Excuse me but tell me where I ever used the word 'panicking'?
Me 'panicking' but why? SFRX technology. What's that? Oh, you're referring to the see all know all Timmy Toy that has found nothing. Like I said - Pathetic.
Quote: Now Kyle is saying he’s NEVER been more optimistic, but affiliates are concerned about a forum?
Wait for it…….The Panic is Palpable.
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Even without a shipwreck or treasure the creative media play will keep the hot air balloon aloft for some time. I believe that time will prove short as 'put up or shut up' time is unavoidable.
What I see as sad about this company is the fact that in approaching two decades they have proven incapable of even developing one project of their own. They exploited and rode piggyback both on Melbourne and Juno Beach both of which were and are duds. Oh, but excuse me as I keep forgetting they're no longer a treasure hunting company but rather a high tec. company, inventor of toys that just don't seem to work. The one word that describes all - Pathetic.
Quote: Is asking a common sense question what you mean by hijacking the board?
The last question is rhetorical.
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Any confrontation with reality (facts) is not appreciated here. The wheels are beginning to wobble on this whole treasure hunting ordeal as I see it. Two sites no treasure. An awful lot of talk and no results. Like I already said, facts talk and bull shit walks.
Quote: How can a company proclaim to have……
the Industry Leading Recovery Process as well as game changing technology and there be skeptics supposedly controlling the message board?
Could it be because the last recovery they made back in late 2020 led to work being suspended because they recovered items without permission?
Or that they’ve been working targets produced by the “game changing technology” for 2 years and come up dry?
It’s just a message board, right?
Or is it more than that?
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Time to face bottom line facts;
Facts talk and bull shit walks. It's obvious there are nervous people posting here.
The show up or shut up time is here. (Actually way past due)
Quote: So you’re trying to convey that as soon as they can dig at Juno…….BOOM, they will quickly bring up treasure, as in just a few days?
It won’t be years like it has been at Melbourne, will it?
TIA
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They must certainly realize that when its a green light go for digging, the jigs up. No treasure and clear conformation of what a dud the Timmy Toy really is. A cosmetic carrot dangler.
Quote: Of course good excuse to use when the pps moved higher. Jmo
Bullish
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Pump the ole B.S. gas into that SFRX hot air balloon and naturally it will rise. Has nothing to do with finding treasure. Never has and likely never will. Balloon rides which is what this company does best.
Quote: I love how (re)Peter talks about Spain’s……
cultural heritage that SFRX is going to bring up.
He’s not too bright when it comes to salvage law, which makes him a real good fit with these clowns.
In case you missed it. They’ve turned decades into days, but this is a few months old now. But don’t mind that little fact.
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What I find so astounding is these are the people have never found a shipwreck, never salvaged a shipwreck and, of course, have never found treasure. People like Mel Fisher of 'Atocha' fame, Bob Marx of 'Maravilla' fame, Burt Webber of 'Concepcion' fame, in spite of finding these classic treasure galleons, they just didn't know how to do it. But hey, give SFRX a break as they're admitting they aren't treasure hunters (verifiably so) but a high tec. company who invent a cosmetically pretty toy that can't find crap. How impressive.
OMG, it just gets better and better…….
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Oh indeed it does, doesn't it?
Creative media done right does wonders. Takes the turd and turns it into a candy bar. All about a very pretty toy which has proven zero performance. This man has obviously never done a successful remote sensing survey or actually proofed targets. No shipwreck, no treasure but the happy-go-lucky CEO says there are BILLIONS there. What a show. Great entertainment.
Quote: They now claim in a couple of days the Toy will let them know if there’s treasure there, but they’ve been diving on the Toy’s targets for 2 years.
The amount of time HTQ spent prior to SFRX’s arrival, along with the few trinkets HTQ found should have been a red flag.
Good luck as the Melbourne project enters it’s 24th season.
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Truly pathetic.
That any sensible person would take these people to be serious.
Quote: Wow, the fresh insights into SFRX are mind blowing. How does one do it without sounding like you're beating a dead horse or constantly playing a broken record? Go figure.
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No insight necessary, just simply looking at the FACTS. Historically right on up to this date, the company is a flat out failure. No performance. No production. All talk; wanna be, gonna be presented with such snow job sophistication. What a joke.
Quote: Mad Max claimed that after a couple of…..
days of scanning, the Toy can tell you if something is there or not.
They’ve been diving the Toy’s target for at least two years.
Listen around the 2:50 mark.
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It's all just too incredible. A class clown show if there ever was one.The see all know all Timmy Toy that apparently does not see all know all. The dangling carrot.
Quote: FWIW, when an entity has been on a project for over a decade with little to show for it, it’s not something to tout as SFRX did. It should have been a red flag.
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This is the longest running sea going clown show inn the history of the treasure hunting business. A complete non-producing failure. With little doubt the Timmy Toy dangling carrot is the only thing keeping them alive. Thats not saying much considering its performance record.
Quote: If someone doesn't own sfrx shares, then I guess they won't be able to dance at the party! Jmo
Bullish
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Probably not but I'd bet they can pay for hot air balloon rides.
Quote: The Baer says the Timmy Toy is still……
being tested.
Hmmm
He went back to measure the cannon which had already been measured.
Funniest one yet….by far!
I love it when we’re being told how to find gold by a company that’s never found gold.
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I respect Baer but I'm really surprised by what he said. He knows very well that the academic archaeological community frowns on anything to do with treasure hunting and motive of going for the gold. But look at it this way. With the old juke boxes you put in a quarter pushed the buttons and it played the tune. These contract archaeologists are no different.
As you said, these people have never found gold, or silver for that matter. It's been a clown show from the beginning and continues to be the same. Hot air balloon profits is what its all about.
Quote: Thanks for going above and beyond with your reactions. The ballast pile lives on.
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"The ballast pile lives on" Yes indeed. Ones with cannons, anchors and treasure of which the Juno site is devoid.
Nevertheless it still serves its purpose as a 'dangling carrot' for ignorant stockholders and unsuspecting investors.
Quote: Thanks shift. Always appreciate your input. And thanks to our experts for being triggered by the mention of the ballast pile. You did not disappoint.
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I had no intention to disappoint. You just aren't appreciative of factual answers.