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It would be terrible indeed if smart people stopped giving their explanations simply because people "dont get it".
There are many reasons why we should always argue the bad points with good points:
1. It keeps the DD on the board. People who come in for the first time will have a very easy time checking out the DD.
2. It helps all the members structure their own arguments as for why they should keep invested in AMFE, regardless of the day to day movement.
3. It keeps the board "honest". I have said this before, and I will say it again. I firmly believe that it is important for questions to be raised, especially here, ESPECIALLY when we have the answer. Humans are drived by emotions, and not logic....BUT logic can and often does shape emotions. This is very important, because everyone who chooses to invest has more reason to be afraid than a person who keeps his money in a bank. That said, when there is good info on the investment, you can work your way around that fear, and justify a long position, hence the maxim: "Know what you own".
4. By always arguing against questions, you make the answer more visible than the question. If many people provide an answer to a question, eventually the board will be filled with answers, instead of questions.
lol isnt that how pilots work? S&L havent been shy to teach others how to start a business. They have a whole youtube series on the matter.
I believe that they are trying to to expand their brand, which could have a major impact on how their franchises roll out.
I agree in principle that we should always wait to see how ANY move plays out, but the company is also aware, which is why they started a pilot plan. I think this is a great way to help push the S&L brand to more people. It is possible that one of those people is the future owner of a S&L franchise location.
Again, AMFE is like a bucket. Most news are like droplets filling up the bucket. Eventually it fills up, and explodes. Then it starts filling up again.
how do you figure that?
A conpany worth $.15 chose to state they are starting a pilot that could lead to a partnership with a company trading at $38.78....
Just to be clear, this is one of the few times the company has stated the name of the partner so clearly, including the ticker symbol...
How does this equal a time to sell again?
Lets not forget that we have received news with unnamed partners. The fact that they chose to name their partner so deliberately is very telling. At least for me.
Well this is interesting. My biggest takeaway is how they chose to name their partner, including the ticker symbol, which by the way. is currently trading at $38.78.
So a company with a stock price of $.15 is comfortable stating in an official PR that they have a partnership with a company trading at $38.78?
I like this sort of news.
were the news released?
I was wondering why no news, until i remembered we are still on Saturday
i actually see us in the .15 range for a little while longer, but Im very glad that the price seems to have stabilized. It may keep churning for a bit, but the charts look to be lining up.
News to AMFE are like drops of water filling up a tank. They may not seem to make a great effect on their own, but the tank keeps filling up. Then a megaton news breaks and the tank catches fire.
Megaton news incoming:
1) finalized audits
2) uplist
3) dividends
Just as some of us were expecting a pull back, and as many of us called this period a consolidation period, I think we can all agree that at the minimum the consolidation has stabilized, and hopefully a bull run will happen sooner than later.
i think aggie means the investor big boys. the guys and gals with REAL deep pockets.
great post. well done
So we should understand that Q1 2018 is Jan/ Feb/ Mar, right?
If its Jan, we can expect Jan to be a huge month, with both the first franchise opening and the legalization of MJ in Cali right?
lol stock price is not as important as the business. The business is doing well, much better now than a few months before, with the promise to continue to grow.
Sock price will eventually catch up. it always does.
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I think a PR officially announcing Bears vs Babies is imminent.
They have strongly alluded to this game, but have never mentioned it by name, as far as I know. This new tweet says that "New exclusivity for Snakes is about to take off".
Thisncould either mean a new game not preciously mentioned, or a previously alluded game now officially mentioned. I hope its the latter.
I think the publishing division is going to be an expreriment of sorts with the highest risk/ reward ratio.
While we dont know how much self publishing costs to the bottom line, we know that the company has determined that they can bear the costs in order to obtain the reward.
And the rewards can be great indeed. As per Rockets DD, Cards against humanity made $50 million dollars on its first year. How much of that went to the publisher?
Regardless, its a new revenue stream worth persuing, and S&L is in a much better position than most to become a publisher. They have the advantage of being able to gauge first hand how well the games do with a live audience, and once the franchises take off they could market the games in store without needing to rely on external assistance to market the games.
That depends on the news. Some news is evidently amazing just by doing a quick run over, for example: any time new contracts are mentioned, positive numbers etc.
There are some news however, that need to be digested to be understood. These news will generate more excitement as the discussion goes on.
Do they normally announce when such a company has been contracted, or do they just let the company work?
I dont see how ANY change in the stock might mean that any fundamental change in the company has happened. As REC said before, we are in a MUCH better position now than we were before due to more income being generated at a faster pace.
To see for fundamental changes it is much more important to analyze news instead of stock price. IMO.
"A main goal of the plan will be "stopping the sale of illegal, unregulated and unsafe cannabis," Naqvi said at Friday's news conference. "
I think that as the date comes closer, we will start seeing more and more detailed articles pop up.
As for how this relates to GRO3: Roger and Ambrose want to make sure that we are the "tools of the trade" for this business. That article only mentioned that 150 or so "legal" establishments would open close term. So they will probably need a lot of supply for the demand that is sure to follow. The article itself states that 150 stores in not nearly enough to deal with the underground market. Well, guess who sells a product which will boost efficiency and rate of growth? We do!
Also, they mentioned "legal". Who is working closely with Health Canada? We are!
"meaning cannabis and alcohol will not be sold alongside each other."
Does this mean that mj infused beer is out?
Thanks for worrying about me :)
Here we are doing fine. We got pretty lucky, and received the weakest part of the hurricane, and received very little structural damage. Many fallen trees and general debris, but nothing remotely close to what we feared.
We are now praying for those living in Florida, as it seems they will also receive the brunt if the storm. And also for those in Barbuda. They were not prepared at all :(
We got lucky. Although we got hit by Hurricane Irma, it was only the weakest part. Lets hope that luck extends to AMFE today.
Even if I agree with most of your post, you cant say this dip was solely based on emotions just as no one can say that people sell on the news. Too many variables to say.
I like the way you think hahaha
Thats why I support the hypothesis that this PR was not completely meant for the investors as an audience. I think he was also writing for someone else. Originally I thought It might just be whales, but maybe he was also writing for the hopeful new growers who might make business with him instead.
I like the second group better. The grower group.
Thats what the board should be for right? Helping people understand the underlying merits of any given PR?
I think this is an excellent topic to discuss and clarify: what does the new consulting area mentioned in the PR mean for GROZONE as a whole.
why was it important to mention the Health Canada bit, and the registration on the PR?
I must confess I originally didnt get it, but after seeing the discussion in the board I started to "get it".
Basically out of the many growers hoping to get licensed (1,665 applications as per PR) only 25% advanced to the "in progress " stage (416), which means that 1,199 applicants still need a lot of help, and GROZONE has identified them as an area of opportunity, that is, potential clients.
Now lets assume that out of these 1,199 potential customers only 50% ( 599.5, which we will round to 599) become real clients, and they each buy a small contract.
Here lets assume that a small contract means only 50k, we already know that a company invested 1mil and will invest again 2.8 mill (just one customer), so we know that some companies have thw money and are willing to invest a large amount, but for the sake of being conservative, lets assume that the average contract is worth only 20% of the first million dollar contract, 50k. (THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL)
when we multiply the customers
599
times the amount of money they are willing to spend
50k
we get
$29,950,000.
This is all a very hypothetical example of course, but it is an example that we can now come up with thanks to the PR.
That was just my own thoughts though, I usually miss the important stuff. Anyone care to add to the discussion?
Health Canada mandates pesticide testing for medical cannabis producers
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Health Canada said Friday this next step of a mandatory testing regime was necessary after final results from random tests of seven growers found two, Hydropothecary and Peace Naturals, had products with traces of the banned pesticide myclobutanil or another active ingredient in other pesticides piperonyl butoxide. Myclobutanil, a chemical which is used to kill mildew, is a known carcinogen that is strictly prohibited for use on plants that are smoked because it produces hydrogen cyanide when heated."
"This requirement for mandatory testing for the presence of unauthorized pesticides will help ensure that Canadians can continue to have confidence in obtaining safe, quality-controlled medical cannabis from licensed producers," said a statement from Department spokesperson Eric Morrissette sent to The Globe and Mail Friday evening."
"Prior to the tainted cannabis problems, Health Canada said it would take a "zero-tolerance" approach to dangerous pesticides if they were discovered, and that companies could lose their licences. But after the banned chemicals were discovered – including myclobutanil – Health Canada officials acknowledged they hadn't been testing for such pesticides, and were therefore taking companies at their word. The chemicals were discovered only when licensed producer Aurora tested the bulk shipment it purchased from Organigram for resale."
"Hundreds of patients exposed to myclobutanil and bifenazate through the recalls announced in December have come forward complaining of serious health issues, ranging from breathing problems to persistent headaches and nausea, blistering rashes and muscle pain."
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/health-canada-mandates-pesticide-testing-for-medical-cannabis-producers/article34913001/?ref=https://www.theglobeandmail.com&service=mobile
From the HEALTH CANADA web page, powers of the inspector:
i) seize and detain, in accordance with this Part, any controlled substance, precursor, designated device or conveyance found in that place the seizure and detention of which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds are necessary;
Lol, the one thing I know how to do is how to ask questions. Which is why I ask them often.
Guys Im not a boogie man. No one man can disturb the progress that Amfil Tech is doing. If they keep things going as they are, the company is going to grow, regardless of how the stock is doing. And if the company grows, the stock will grow as well. As longs, that's the one attitude you should always keep. Plow says this all the time.
My questions are not asked with malicious intent. They are genuinely asked. My suggestion to you all is to answer the questions as best as you can. An answer that rings true and makes sense will make every question seem dumb.
Is there anyone here who doubts that S&L or GRO3 will grow exponentially? I dont. And I am one of the more "critical" posters here.
As long as the company makes moves to continue to grow, and as long as there are knowledgeable people here who can connect the dots and shine some light unto what those moves mean, then the stock will be fine.
lol
none whatsoever. Whatever stock analysis i do is strictly on my very little experience with AMFE.
However I did major in Philosophy and Psychology and I have acquired some skill into reading a text, context, critical analysis etc. That is why I focus so much in "minor details" as some say.
However this should be a great positive if looked from a different perspective. I am trying very hard every day to find anything resembling a "red flag" and so far I have only been able to criticize very minor details of the PRs, (notice how I do not mention the Company).
Before someone misunderstands me. Let me try to be as clear as possible:
I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN THE HUGE POTENTIAL OF THE COMPANY, AND EVERY CONTRACT THEY ANNOUNCE BRINGS THE COMPANY ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE VALUATION OF THE STOCK WHICH WE ALL WANT, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT CURRENTLY IS PLACED.
I think that at these levels the price deends on on both TA and fundamentals.
The news usually makes the fundamentals better, but the market reacts more to how the charts are behaving.
As more investors realize that the fundamentals are solid, they decide to stick with AMFE instead of trading it depending on the charts.
This is a cycle that I have personally seen at least 2 times. But I only got in since April.
After observing the discussion on the board, I think that the implications on this PR are great indeed. The problem is the way in which the PR was written.
The normal person reading this PR wont be able to tie the dots without help. But a person with specialized knowledge will be able to see the implications of this PR.
If this was consciously written in this way, this could mean that this PR was not intended for "us", but rather for a more specialized audience. Maybe this PR was written for the CEOs of MJ companies, or for other people who have big money to invest.
This is the great thing about dissent! When opinions clash, it forces people to better their arguments! As it stands right now, even in these few hours, the posters have focused on what makes this PR so great, or a continuation of great things to come!
If this PR had come by itself, with no one to discuss the merits or demerits of it, a lot of these points would have not been discussed! I for one am extremely glad that Rocket, Plow, Rec, amongst others have taken their time to answer our discrepancies. Your answers are very welcome and what is most important, they make sense. So from my end, thank you.
we still dont know who "they" are though.
That could very well be the case, but I feel that if they are going to make a PR, they should go out of their way to make things clear for the reader.
I dont know, this is the first time I have invested anywhere, but I like PRs to be direct and to the point. And if the company wants me to tie the dots together, they should make a very clear path. I still feel that part was confusing, and I thank you for providing some clarity on what it could mean, but compared to previous PRs, I believe this one was sub par.
Ok, a few points to discuss:
- They are working on leads. (Fluff)
- They are working on the final stages of a quotation for a contract that should be 2.5 times bigger than the other one. This contract should be done by Sept 30. (A $2.5 mill contract on the way, thats awesome)
-The building they are working on is huge, and they can expect more sales depending on the results of the current systems. (Fluff)
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Then the PR became kind of confusing regarding some Health requirements. If I understood it correctly, there are many fillings that are being returned and GROZONE could help in some way. Not sure if they are going to charge for consultation, or this newly added area of opportunity was meant to indicate more sales.
Apparently GROZONE JV uses Sic Sigma, which I believe is one of the highest standards, but I could be mistaken. (I count this as fluff, or nothing new)
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All in all, I found this PR to lack the directness of previous PR's. Especially the part about consultation and Health Requirements.
The best part was definitely the *possible* contract for Sept 30.
If anyone can share some light on anything I might have missed, please let me know.
nope. Puerto Rico
oh, its moving that way. it will eventually be legal. our biggest problem right now is the amount of conservative politicians we have, and their closed minded views.
that would still be illegal here *sigh*