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thank for your concern for my educational needs. since you seem to be a sharp person, can you tell me what the company plans to do with the increase in shares, is there a plan, how did he come up with that number?
thanks for your info., But I own shares and will decide if and when to sell, and decide how to vote. so far, no one here, no one at the company, and no DD to date no matter how deep you look, can justify increase in shares like they are doing, period.
there you go again, telling me what to do instead of telling me what the company has planned for the increase in shares. another typical diversion, telling me about people and how great they are, thats fine, just answer me a simple question, what is the plan, its a public company, do they have one that justifies the shares, answer it yes or no if you like. I'm asking a simple question, I want to see what you know as a seasoned investor in this company.
blind faith before, during, and after Russia. Huff still has to pay lawyers to ride it through this setback even thought it will end up OK. is that what you refer to as trust, getting us into or out of those types of future situations. dont get me wrong, I like the guy, I like the value of my invested money even more.
agee, little dillution to date. tomorrow is a different story, cant wait to hear plan that needs that kind of dillution. as far as CMKX to GTE, blind faith is the first thing that comes to mind, you cant even tell me a plan for the future spending or justification for asking and you are all for it.
uh oh, telling someone to go somewhere else, what a defense mechanism for justifying dillution.
OK, what is the company going to do with the money, its public, have they told you their plan. dont you think you should have a plan before you ask for money, asking for double outstaning is the same thing. what business plan have they outlined to date that needs this kind of dillution. every deal so far was the customer writing a PO for the work, what else is there. one more question, what do you do for a living if you dont mind.
I wonder if a lot of the same investors are here that followed CMKX. they ended up with 800B shares and everyone still applauded them as they sank into the abiss. not saying that will happen here, but holding a company accountable for share value is very important. I may have to ask that question next time I interview for an opening, "are you an investor, and is it OK for a company to periodically double the outstanding shares in order to grow?" it would tell me alot about that person, his business ethics and all.
your not, wow, I hope 35k more of you exist and buy buy buy, that would make my investing real easy. your not concerned about the increase in shares, how old are you and how many of you are investing in the market, I would really like to know.
I hope your not referring to the current price of the stock as an enhancement to shareholder. pre split would make it less than 10c/share, value is going down the last couple years dont you think. I'm in now, waited for drop from highs and now waiting for new highs again. I'll settle for dillution, I'll just have to work harder buying and selling as the dillution cycles the price.
forgot to mention, since split, with added shares current and future, it would make it make it greater than a 1:30 split. think about it, if your happy with that then I'm in the wrong business, I need to start a business of selling shares. I dont want my shares dilluted here, let the company add value to existing stock.
I think we should understand that if the company added value to the stock it would enable them to sell existing shares at a premium. adding shares is dillution, the shareholder should not suffer the short term consequences of mis-steps of management. lets review where shares were before Russia and after June news: potential shares between 4 and 10 x 50M = 200 million to 500 million dollars for them to splurge on. add 100M more shares, dillution kicks in, say price does make it to 2 with good news mixed with dillution, therefore you end up with 150M x 2 = 300 million. company is hedging themselves with fat float, I think we need to keep them working to add value to stock price.
don't forget the fire they had at that blimp factory, my guess is renovation will take even longer.
the owner knows more about spending the spoils than he does building a business with a very good product base.
could not help myself, stopped to read the other board, see what is going on, nothing as usual. but the idiot bashers always get it wrong, the company product is very good, its lack of direction and product throughput, and marketing, that is the real problem with this company.
Its very simple, DILUTION is bad no matter how you look at it. If you say anything different your credibility is suspect. is this a very bad thing here, no, they have not sold any much less have them in hand. Its not good for investors return on investment, but I think stock price will go up as they give out progress reports and slowely dilute.
forgot to mention, what are the 15 employees doing, nothing is going on that takes any programming talent, are they gone or still a burden on the books. I wonder, no I dont, EY silence means nothing is going on, and his presence amounts to posts that lead to nothing or future planning the next plan. too frustrated, too tired to care about this one anymore, hope things work out for you folks that are invested in SHRN, I dont see a future here anymore. enough bashing, time to move on.
from another board "it's going to take time but we should be ok"
who said that, steve or EY, no matter, either one, several months ago, were all pumped up on this stock. I think that statement shows how bad the company and IR misrepresented the company. they gave us the you aint seen nothin yet, and now, you aint seein nothin for a while. we should be OK, did I miss something with all the company pumpin goin on.
lets see, PRs coming up, "we have same old plans" or "we have new plans" or "we have big plans someday coming up".
how about "we plan to sell more shares before the traffic drops off the charts"
So would I if Id known we would not go anywhere but down, great product and a world of customers. they are small and cant seem to meet/attract demand that is out there. the activeshopper website is better than shopping.com's but affiliate program has not produced enough revenue to become a growth company, pity really. thought for a while they would be huge.
most of you may have forgotten a statement EY made a while back. He said he was working on huge affiliate programs and other areas that were best for business. I have been keeping tabs after that, problem, revenue is not growing(consider increase in online shoppers), activeshopper is the only thing they have and its the same, in general, in all its forms. more products, more affiliates, but....less traffic, constant degredation of numbers, for a long time. he seems to be content with this, nothing really new is going on accept same thing in different package. competition is catching up to activeshopper, there are a lot of them out there, dillution of stock and shopping sites/shopper. my only mistake here is not getting out above 10c. I will say this as warmly as possible, if you think big things are happening here and this will go to a dollar, you may want to buy more lottery tickets, similar chances.
that didnt last long, looks like Corso ran out of money for today.
wonderfull, we are back up to 5c for the Nth time. wonderfull
look, Im tired of pushing this stock, it goes up, then down, then up again. and the whole time the bashers over there buy and sell the thing while others defend it as longs and make nothing. Im tired of spending my time making money for someone else with a stock that has got me nowhere. you are pumping 5c tomorrow when it was that a few days ago many times over, no big deal, you should cut and paste it each time it happens. A big deal would be, revenue has doubled every Q, progress is made every Q, stock is going up every Q, bashers dissapear every Q, actual results of PLANS happen every Q, new products appear every Q, metrics go up every Q. none of these happen and I dont believe ever will. this stock is a 2 man show, one who makes it no matter what with his 120k salary, and the other who wants it back and has to keep buying it to keep it afloat and will eventually get it back through pressure on the first. in a nutshell, its a good company to make money, model is small, but it works, but it should not be a public company for there is little accountability. sorry, I dont see anything about this company the way I used to.
from the other board: "Weiss, we are all not idiots here. That filing is hideous."
I am no longer a big fan of this company but...the person/persons that bash over there WOULD have to be an idiot to think the filing was bad, I say its OK, nothing special or something I would wait a couple years for, which I did.
keep the faith, hope it works out for you. when a company gets the infamous "E" and waits till the last minute to file before going pink, and the numbers are just OK, I don't see longs for a long time.
I like your optimism, unfortunately I do not think the same anymore, and the crowd that put this stock in the teens does not either. very slow progress mainly due to poor advertising and slow development of products, coupled with big promises that have not come true, most of the longs are gone. it may come back someday, but will not be sustained without long money through confidence in management.
We have been engaged in the on-line shopping business since March 2004. Prior to that time, we were engaged in the field of designing and developing business applications software.
We generate revenues primarily according to pay-per-click models resulting from the directing of traffic to merchants' websites. We generate revenues also according to pay-per-sale model when a sale derives from the directing of traffic to a merchant website, and from consulting and management of advertising campaigns through ActiveShopper.
Revenues shall increase as more software installations of ActiveShopper take place. Although ActiveShopper is a free-download software, promoting it is essential, when there is no assurance that users may keep their ActiveShopper download on the long run.
In addition, since revenues are subjected to seasonal fluctuations revenue levels may not be sustained and therefore growth is not assured.
We are considered a development stage company and have a limited operating history upon which an evaluation of our prospects can be made. As of March 31, 2006, we had an accumulated deficit of $4,221,792. Our prospects must therefore be evaluated in light of the problems, expenses, delays and complications associated with a development stage company.
you have just read why they will remain very small company, yet growth may continue. been around for a couple of years, fairly moderate debt, promotion is essential yet remains abstract concept to management, they are admitting that download numbers are not indicator of sustained revenue, thry do not have anything new that will generate additional revenue in near future.
I doubt it, I think for investors it will be hope and wait for many many months or even years. forget to mention, outstanding shares are way too many and counting. big risk here, if he raises the ceiling, say 1B shares, this stock will dump, sad but true.
one more post. the current business model is very limited in revenue generation. even though it will produce fruitfull revenue growth Q over Q, it is not going to be the cash producing machine I once thought it would, facts about metrics and revenue point to limited growth as proved throughout and beyond best shopping period for year. this company wont fail, its just limited in current model. they are slow to respond to market, slow to grow in new and existing markets. sorry folks, to the moon is a poor statement here.
10Q out, OK revenue. what is not good is the PLAN has not happened yet, too many promised yet unfinished plans out there. is it coming soon, I dont know. But it is to the point it does not matter any more, at least to me.
looks like confidence in this stock, and therefore company, has lapsed. what will make up for plans, more plans, then wait and more wait for filing, then good revenue numbers and stock goes down. when good numbers come in, and stock goes down, it usually means investors dont trust or dont want to deal with management. oh well, thought there was very good things happening here, maybe someday eh.
loeb and leob are still working it out with him, FWIW:
a) The reasons described in reasonable detail in Part III of this form could not be eliminated without unreasonable effort or expense; |X| (b) The subject annual report, semi-annual report, transition report on Form 10-K, Form 20-F, 11-K, Form N-SAR, or portion thereof, will be filed on or before the fifteenth calendar day following the prescribed due date; or the subject quarterly report of transition report on Form 10-Q, or portion thereof will be filed on or before the fifth calendar day following the prescribed due date; and
(c) The accountant's statement or other exhibit required by Rule 12b-25(c) has been attached if applicable.
one more day of pain, waiting and watching.
stormy, agreed. but I also think this stock is a bashers dream, too many hicups, to much room for them to roam, not enough beef coming from Eliron. down again today? no good news makes chances pretty good.
you are correct, it may also be the Texans that send this stock to prices we never dreamed of. each day passes, it will come closer to reality, each day will bring new money, on and on we go. great to see this happening, glad I invested here.
we got problems and I dont like the way this is going, late filing, no feedback from company, IR does not know what is really going on, stock is dumping. very bad times and no reassurance. I say Eliron gets no sleep until he gets this company to a point where the stock hits $1, nothing less.
not happy at all, I'm sure Eliron is not either. difference between him and me, he knows whats really happening, I dont.
here we go, no going back I guess. filed but not complete yet.
from other board,
"Spoke to Steve Weiss, SHRN Ivestor Relations.
Still no report for at least a couple more days ... "legal issues" still being resolved
Steve thought that the drop dead deadline is May 22nd, but will be double checking that
No more details were given, other than to say the the 1st quarter report will obviously not be out until the 2005 report is out. "
not really acceptable because it is not common, this is not what I call a comfortable period for this stock.
If it is not in today, I doubt it is even what Eliron expected.