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Some have posted here that the four tube unit is still a few weeks away, possibly a little longer if there are delays...
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Isn't that as well about the same time frame for the reactor to be done? Who knows ? not us for sure always the last to know aren't we. all imho"
Wednesday is the day after the scheduled Vidalia town meeting. Anyone think there could be a connection?
I have no such knowledge, just trying to imagine the possibilities - pure speculation.
Sounds like a lot of good names coming in - got to shut down for tonight. Hope for a good day tomorrow, and maybe JR will consider someones name for the fuel....
Name calling contest -
Well, I have seen one of the selected names - soya something I think.
Let's assume that many American consumers like to support renewable bio fuels but, due to the inferiority of ethanol over gasoline, they are really reluctant to try any such. Let's face it, Americans love their cars and want to protect them.
Thus, maybe we need a name that really does not call up images of ethanol or farm products too much. We want it to sound like its something better than gas or ethanol. People assume companies name products in relation to its worth. We are proud of this and it's spec's say it's true - so brag on it. With an outstanding name most folks will assume it will not damage there engine and may even demand it as the best, that somehow they are getting at a good price. "Brought to you by the implementation of the most exciting advances in technology this century!". Marketing 101.
Here are a few to throw out -
Ethanol not inferior to gasoline -USSE mixed in)-
SuperE
BioPrem (BP maybe likes the initials)
Diesel Deluxe (they just ask for "deluxe"
Pure or near Usse -
Superoct
Excelsior (it gets nicknamed "X")
Dynamic Diesel (She stops AND starts on a dime!)
Anyone care to think up some more?
Ok - If mine are used I will be ready when the company calls with my royalty checks!
1. Could any % mix of ethanol and USSE fuel be sold immediately as a motor fuel? (meet regulatory, tax requirements, and vehicle warranty requirements)
2. Will USSE shareholders directly benefit from the sale of plastics? Sounds very interesting.
At this moment, I don't plan on buying another symbol, but hope to benefit in all other ways possible.
3. I think I like the use of those restricted shares. In this case they seem to be of benefit to the shareholder, adding value. That has to be better than it just belonging to another board member to sale after becoming unrestricted. Maybe a lot more of the 500 m is set aside for other such additions I would hope.
USSP should be very valuable if all goes well, and I am very excited about the shares we will get.
But in comparison, I have to think that USSE is potentially the most valuable of the two. USSE sales possibilities would have to be much more plentiful than USSP. Sales from USSE could include USSP + fertilizer + eventual motor fuels + gas. Or, will another spin-off occur for the motor fuel sales, etc?
But then, I guess it could depend some on what price USSE sales fuel to USSP to determine which company has the best profit margin.
Bottom line for me, I'm holding as much of both companies as I can. Not a recommendation, just my opionion that it's too soon to see which companies may hold the greatest value.
Town Council Meeting
Dec/12/2006 - Dec/12/2006
Location: City Hall
The Vidalia Town Council meets at the City Hall, located at 101 North Spruce Street. The meeting begins at 6:00 p.m.
We encourage everyone to attend.
Phone: 318-336-5206
http://www.cityofvidalia.com/custom/webpage.cfm?content=EventsDetail&id=201&CFID=13730773&am...
So, each tube does the same thing? It just cost more the first time for equipment set up that can work for 1, up to 4 tubes I assume then.
I did listen to the conference but I don't remember that being described.
Thanks... I think it would be interesting to understand the significance of the lower priced tubes and the value they represent.
More from 4 collectively than from 4 individually?
Just Curious -
USSE has one 65 reactor currently working as I understand. I assume that one tube does it all.
We have heard that the first reactor costs the most in a set of four, with the other three costing much less.
If the first tube can do it all, then what is the purpose of the the other three tubes? Why make a set?
Just trying to understand it all a little better. Does anyone have the answer?
Thanks!
I think ethanol and bio-diesel have always had to apoligize or compensate for lower BTU's, corrosiveness, and low temperature gelling.
Not so for USSE! (As we are told) Which makes all those great things possible IMO. JR acts like he has what he says from what I can see.
I think the major news, and networks know that the public is conditioned to hearing this kind of thing too much. There are so many miracle cures just around the corner, as well as miracle fuel sources that seem to be imminent, but seem to never materialize. Read a copy of Popular Science from the 60's, etc. You would think we would all be in flying cars by now.
This needs validation - a contract with Vidalia or elsewhere, or outstanding sales numbers to whomever. Once validated and some nuetral, credible, third parties are on board then the rest will follow I think, ie. major coverage.
At just the right time, the best thing that could happen would be that the public makes their will be known that they want fuels that will stop the damage to the environment and lessen the nation's dependence on foreign oil. And, there USSE will be if they have proven their worth. Let's invite Al Gore for a tour at Natchez and Willie Nelson too.
My state has JB Hunt trucking and Walmart. What if one or both of those came on board? Seems like a chance for some great PR for them. I hope JR's (assumed)future marketing department approaches these companies. Walmart is very progressive on cost controls and owns innumerable diesel trucks. Let the politicians explain to the public why a regulation would stand in the way, while they say they are in support of a better environment. Or let a diesel manufacturer tell Walmart or JB Hunt "no way".
And, a company like BP, perhaps after rigurous testing, could opt to replace the high octane "Super" unleaded with USSE "Super" but perhaps the sticker price is equal or lower than "regular". The distributor presumably pays less, has what we believe to be a better product, maybe makes a better margin on it, and gets all that good press for helping the environment and the national economy.
Well, still just all dreaming at this point, and I know this is not JR's beginning plan, but someday I hope this could happen. If the product is what it says, and the press presents it correctly, then manufacturer's warranties and government regulations should quickly fall in line IMO.
In the short term (meaning next few years), money is King, so even some 50/50 mixtures with ethanol or gas might appear. I could imagine that as a transition, and I could imagine ethanol and even major oil companies wanting to try that to bring down their own cost!
This is not a prediction, just some of my wildest dreams for the future. Not intended to entice, but just to share some ideas of where "our" comapany might try to tread.
Thanks.
I also like USSE's constantly moving forward and purchase of equipment, etc., and moving quick with the city council.
I can see where the city will need to give it a legal going over, and as you point out, they will want to be assured that their community is wanting this to happen. I think that as a citizen in my community, and if I were asked if I wanted a 10 year contract for lower electrical rates, I would be ready to call my council member and ask how fast can they get it done!
I wonder if such an effort is being organized in Vidalia after all the press from the demo?
Same story for Standard Oil ,founded by by John D. Rockefeller. I think he was quoted as saying that each time the government broke up his Trust it just gave him more companies that skyrocketed in share value.
For now, I will be very pleased to learn that the Vidalia contract becomes signed. That would be very BIG news I think.
I assume JR has all the best intentions with giving to charity. Maybe he is deeply religious or just a real humanatarian.
Still, like the demo, he has to sell this to a town and a nation, and the world. Maybe a good sincere promise of a donation is just what some townsfolk need to hear at Vidalia to seal the deal.
As a shareholder, I think green energy and lower rates for the Vidalia community should be enough, and I don't like losing a dime any more than anyone else. But, if that promise somehow made the difference of getting the Vidalia deal signed then that alone makes it worthwile. (Aside from the adage that you get what you give back tenfold).
Once that one town signs up it will be so much easier to sign up many many more I would think, because the first town validates it for everyone else.
Positive for USSE - Although USSE will not look at the auto industry yet, I wonder if the ethanol producers will be able to purchase USSE fuel to upgrade their ethanol and perhaps make it cost lower than the mixture with gas? Assuming the law allows.
With the current ethanol production and new ethanol plants in the works, this would make good PR for all I think. Although, those plants my have to convert to a USSE operation, or go under if USSE decides to go head on with them and can dominate as we should believe given the numbers USSE has shown.
An impartial account from the city. Sounds to me that the mayor wants to see the company actually up and running, as we all do, before he can proceed. But still likes the concept.
I like to think of it like everyone witnessing the first phone conversation by Bell, but most had to wait to see it being used in the real world. Only early adopters could see the potential immediately. As an elected official, it would pay to be in there early to take credit, but not so early that he could lose face if there were any chance that this fell through. After all, this is a lot for people to sink in all the sudden. JR's seen it coming 18 years, most others need time to get used to the idea and want to see sales figures to validate.
http://www.cityofvidalia.com/custom/webpage.cfm?content=News&id=1532
Matt - Please, z is the only reason why I check RB each day.
Thanks Dancer. (Did you try the file in the cake?)
Ok. Thanks!
According to the report published today, the fertilizer can be sold to farmers or used to produce electricity. No concern about it piling up.
Zardiw on RB said the web site had some news for CYBR shareholders, I have USSE and CYBR.
Does anyone know what it said since we can't get in to the site?
Thanks...
Someone asked about the fertilizer use. I do live in farm country and the most memorable fertilizer being used here is chicken litter from chicken houses - I think associates to Tyson Foods.
I guess it does ok but memorable because it has a strong odor. There's a lot of farmland to stretch USSE fertilizer on if that's what the farmers want to do. If USSE has an abundance I imagine cost, supply, and demand will work out the details.
I'm new here but have been with U.S. Sustainable through CYBR and GRLY, then bought all I could the day after the LFZA acquisition at about .13 Wish I had more but I am not selling 1 share any time soon.
My question - what are we to make of the line about # of shares authorized 100,000 common?