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If the MMs are walking it down and with this being a short week (no pun intended) is it possible we getting set up for another run and dump? Any opinions? Nez
Speaking of management, I guess the chance of a "short squeeze" is irrelevant now? Personally, I don't know one way or the other but I would love to see the MMs that are messing with this one take it in the chops, sooon! Nez
ME TOO, Sharing?!! Nez
Here's another recent artical that seems to be declairing that the govt. is getting behind the transition.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5173420
Maybe I don't get it but this seems a little bigger source of income (for XLPI and XPL) than a avian flu market but then I've always been mechanically inclined. Not a whole lot is known about the "flu" yet but quite a bit is known about the following markets, to name a few. I find it amazing that people were using XLPI or XLP as a flu play! Heck, this information is contained in the first section of the board! Nez
CURRENT NEWS & EVENTS
Xcelplus Asia Pacific Activities and Sales Forecast
1)Uawithya Machinery Co.
Their first order of USD30, 000 - USD50, 000 together with signing of the Master Distributor contract will take place before mid April'06. Our sales target for them for the first three months is USD80, 000 and to achieve USD200, 000 before the year-end.
2)Italthai Engineering Co. Ltd.
They are our existing distributor for the automobile and heavy-duty vehicle industry and with their present project, producing Bio-fuel to replace the huge diesel market in Thailand, our Permanent Engine Treatment will be in demand for vehicle that made the switches. Market reaction is that Bio-fuel might have some bad effect on the engine hence, Italthai will promote aggressively our Engine Protection Treatment in their campaign too.
3)Cockpit - leader of Lube Center in Thailand.
We are in the mist of negotiation with them to represent us in all their
branches. Between Italthai and Cockpit we are looking at a sales turnover of USD100,000 for the first three months and are aiming at USD300, 000 before year-end. This figure should be attainable because our infomercial campaign will spur the sales once we kick it in sometime the third quarter of this year.
4)Airport Authority - Supply of Rubber Runway Removal.
The outlook of securing this project is very positive and if lady luck is on our side we should see a minimum sales turnover of USD500,000 from this business before year-end.
5)Southern China - negotiation with the respective distributor has been finalized and they are incorporating a company, Xcelplus Shenzhen Co. Ltd,specially for this business. Their main target is the automobile industry because one of their partner is the chairman of the Automobile and Mechanic Association that governed all the mechanical workshops in Southern China.
Beside this, they will also kick off the direct to consumers programmed. They are shooting at the third week of May to officially launch Xcelplus with a big bang in Shenzhen. Their first order - USD30, 000 to USD50, 000 to be placed sometime mid April and conservatively we are looking at a sales turnover of at least USD200,000 when we hit the forth quarter of this year.
6)Northern China - Harbin
It will be huge when this deal is finalized. First Auto Corporation, one of the biggest car manufacturer in China is proposing to specify the use of Xcelplus Engine Protection Treatment in all the vehicles they produced and this group of entrepreneurs is eyeing the heavy industry too. I won't be able to offer any figure at this stage but extremely confidence that we will make this big breakthrough into the China market real soon.
7)Motorcycle Industry
I have been touching base with this relatively huge MLM Company originated in Taiwan for the last couple of months to market our range of motorcycle and automobile products through their business model in all the South East Asia territory, i.e. Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Philippine, India, Korea, Japan and Dubai. They are quite new in the market but very aggressive. Only three months in Indonesia and they achieved a turnover of USD400, 000 there. For the past month I exchanged pointer with their COO and eventually their CEO requested for a meeting - he's flying in tomorrow.
It's still quite primitive but again if lady luck is smiling on us anything is possible. If everything goes smoothly we might kick off with them as early as the beginning of the third quarter of this year and I am looking at a sales turnover of 3 to 4 million USD conservatively in year 2007. (base on half of their territory in S.E Asia because they targeted 2008 to open up all the countries)
Even if this deal falls through our existing network of motorcycle distributors in Thailand and Indonesia would easily achieve USD300,000 if we could put the
products into the market.
Thanks and God Bless.
Francis Jeow
Lady,
Thanks for the info. I am studying biology now and found the infomation on the "flu" application to be, I hope, speculative at best. Do you have any idea how much was spent of R&D and packaging and how much of the alleged sales were attributed to this use? I for one, bought strictly on the engine application perspective as well as the E-85 and rust inhibition and removal perspectives.
As far as virus goes, if it is going to be used in this capacity great if not so what? Unless, a large amount of money, effort, time and production has been allocated for this use alone. I have felt that the avian flu application was just an extra but small use. Viruses are notorious, as I'm sure you are well aware, for mutating as they have no DNA of their own and use that of the host cell they infect to replicate. I mean you can use cloro** and anmmonia to make a very deadly insecticidal gas, but cloro** wouldn't start advertising or placing hopes on this type of use to increase sales. JMO, Nez
You all think this is an avian flu play???? Nez
The believers, imo, will come out in droves once a PEC (public eduction campaign) begins in earnest! I don't just mean about the product, I also am referring to management, an earlier poster referenced. I agree that you don't find this level of apparent quality management in many Pinks. But when you do, it is like finding a compass.
This board and the people who expend so much time moderating and keeping it current, are to be commended as this is a great starting point for DD. I'm no stock guru, just a beginner and in addition to the information listed at the starting point of the site, I am also learning from some of the other posters here as well.
The ongoing disscussion between yourself and Shmolt is a good example. Nez
"Xcelplus" Plus" included in hydrogen kits for cars. Seems like they have all the bases covered! I have been looking at this technology for a few weeks and I know there are a few companys out there selling the kits and the hydrogen generators for charging them. With a product this new and revolutionary, you can be sure that the company selling the kits, wouldn't include Xcelplus in it if they had the least doubt about the Xcelplus or the company. Check it out. http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/order.html
OT sorry board, about not lableing OT on off topic subjects. Bad habit from posting on a board where bad manners were the norm. Again, sorry. Nez
Here it is.
Amigula Incorporated -- The Worlds First Publicly Traded Marijuana Company -- could correct Ontario's $4 billion budget deficit in less than 4 years
Nez
I don't know but if they are going to finally find do something right, I think that the way to do it would be to let people with a Drs. OK set up or join government regulated clubs where they couod grow it and use it according to their needs. This way corporate greed would be kept out and government regulation could be done by an agricultural arm. This way the regulation would only apply to oversight of the growing techniques, placement and to make sure there was not anything that was hazardous in the growing medium. One of the Agricultural inspectors could do that at what would probably be a very low cost to the tax payers while at the same time aleviating suffering. But I guess that kind of thinking requires empathy or a heart. Nez
If I remember right, it didn't have any hint of a company that worked with cannibis. I was looking through the "Barchart" list and saw a company that traded realy strangely. Every two or three weeks it would double and then within two days be right back to where I saw it. It was trading at around .50 if I remember. The name would never have been connected to a hemp company though. I think Woody from cheers (I don't know the actors name that played him on the show) was involved. It's been so long ago and my wife and I found just it funny that someone would go through the trouble of setting up a public company, when if it is ever legilized, you know the government will totally control it and it probably won't be publicly traded. Talk about cornering a market! Nez
Sounds realistic to me Gooddoc, that is if the apparent controlling MM's let it. Nez
kachingpdx, did you know that there is a company, right now, that is publicly traded and focuces only in growing "the Hemp"? I think it is a canadian company. I came across it sometime ago and they are already formed and waiting for the legislation to pass, which IMHO, after watching some friends die very slowly and painfully from cancer, they will have to do. The reasons for allowing this natural plant to be commercialized increase each day it seems. I MO it is more than justified just by the blood that is spilled each day on the streets of the world over the unregulated trafficing of it. Now we find that it is also a great source for ethanol?!? Come on and smell the coffee already. Nez
coon, right on from the start and especially to the last part! Nez
Bruce, point well taken. Nez
There was some talk yesterday about the control and cost of sugar. Much of the research I have done on ethanol indicates that possibly the number 1 source of what is really grain alcohol is ...corn, corn grown right here in the USA by USA farmers who have put genetic engineering to good use and increaced the production quite a bit.
So I guess my question is, what was the issue of sugar (which also has to go through a fermentation process) and the worries of the control of the sugar brought up when we are the nation with the largest ability to produce corn and obtain it from struggleing USA farmers. IMO, the sugar for production might not be that big a deal. Or have I missed the point? Nez Oh yeah, soy is another good source.
gooddoc, I like your answer better. Nez
SHMOLTON, I might be mistaken but I believe the A/S for the holding Co. is only 1/10th of xlpi? Just an uneducated and inexperienced guess from a newbie. Nez
Is it time for the "Big Shake?" Nez
GDoc,
I was hoping to hear that might be a possibility! Nez
The more I learn about this company the better I feel. They really seem to know what they are talking about with piston engines and they have made me a believer in ethynol now that they have addressed the acid problems inherent with the burning of ethanol.
When we have access to it in our part of the country, I plan on installing a kit on a car with a new engine that has had the "treatment" and save some of the money we will be making on this play! Now that the President is even talking about the increased use of ethanol, I know it won't be long before in makes it to the northeast.
With the FAA giving their stamp of approval, I for one am sold. They have too much money and time on their hands not to have tested it as they claim. Plus they tend to be picky about what they allow in the oil systems of piston driven engines. It really is a no brainer. Heck, I was using 2.5 oz. to 10 gal. regular gas ratio of 90-100% acetone, and was blown away by the 35%-45% avg. savings in miles. Althought the people who have tested it for so long (aircraft engines, both piston and jet), stand by it and want everyone who uses it to keep records so that they can be sent into congressman in an attempt to get the govt. to make the oil companies put it in the gas to begin with, I have recently stopped because I don't trust the auto industry to continue to use plastic in the gasoline system that are impervious to the acetone. Now I have another alternative to mess around with!
I just wonder how the "Big Oil" is going to react. Will they begin buying into this or will they set their attack dog lobbyists on it? Time will tell. Nez
Does anyone out there think that this is a reasonable assumption or does anyone think the MM's have left the building? This post is from RB Boards (Gahk!) but it seems to be an angle worth looking at, IMO. Nez
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Does this sound logical? If I were the MM, I'll try to bring the price down as much as I can before 7 April. So several parties of MMs will gang up to do this. One party buys & another party sells at an agreed price and it gets gradually lower all the way till 7 April.
Why? Cos, you can buy gadzillion more shares at a much cheaper price & obtain more dividend stock when the time comes.
Not holding any stock in this company yet. I plan to buy in but adopting a wait & see to see whether the price falls further. I'm just a retail investor and I need to piggy back when the MMs do their bidding. Us retail investors just don't have the clout that MMs have.
What are yr thoughts? Just exploring this angle.
I believe the name of the co. is Sem Semco. Nez
Poker, can you show me the proof that Jim Stop Loss is in fact HIM? Nez
I hope it gets ther so I can for once own shares under .004 Nez
rrm, you are correct...again, IMO. Nez
State nobody but insiders should have "inside" information and I like rrm, I really get ticked by the thought that, IMHO they did. Nez
POKER
I have to agree with you poker and to tell you the truth, I hope they are successful so that I can accumulate more for my wife at lower prices!
My main complaint with people like shorts, 3x3 and the others including the "Worm" is, why do they expend so much time and effort posting on blogs and BBs about old news that is just rehashed. Granted there are crooked companys out there and PLNI, IMHO, has a chance of being one although I feel it a remote chance at best.
If I felt as strongly as these folks (shorts, audit calling card, GB and others who post on weekends and break 1000 posts in a very short time), I would use all of the time and effort to organize a blog or website or BB collecting people who have been misled and fleeced by JT and PLNI. They could then combine their "evidence'" with that of people that contact them and file some type of legal action.
I know that in the past, when companies or people were found and prosecuted for running a scam, they were basically given a slap on the wrist. I didn't really understand why this was until I considered things from the perspective of companies and CEOs. They are automatically taking taking a huge risk when they attempt to start their own buisness. From interest rates, competition, supply, demand, labor costs, overhead and all of the other things that can make or break a buisness.
Since commerse is an integral part of our countrys security and success, it makes sense to me that if the government were to come down overly hard on the few crooked companys out there, it would cause a "chilling effect" when it comes to undertaking the task of starting new a buisness endevor.
Now if a company has ripped off huge numbers of people, that too could hurt the economy. However, people who invest in Pink Sheet companys know what the risks are regardless of what the CEO says or doesn't say, I think it right that the bulk of the burden be on the shoulders of the accsers to prove that the company in question is guilty.
It shouldn't be hard to do as when a company like PLNI issues PRs there is a paper trail. When CEOs are interviewed, you also have them saying in their own words evidence that the accusers can use against them. Much of this is already used by the accusers in the form of cutting and pasting the same old information from the past over and over. (see many of shorts, calling card and others posts that do just that) simply to scare or cause possible future investors from joining the company. To me, and IMHO, this is just their way of trying to get even or taking out on the company, their anger at THEMSELVES for taking a loss. You don't lose until you sell! No one has any one to blame for a loss other than themselves. If they are the ones shorting a company then I can see why they would be desirous of stopping anyfurther demand and subsequent pps increase due to increase in demand.
I know of only one company that ripped off its investors and that is Enron.
I do know that there is a gradually building body of evidence pointing at "naked shorting" and "failure to fills" as being of the greater threat to our system of investing. This informaion was very enlightning and is also the subject of Motley. There is other information out there: (>http://www.businessjive.com/<, >http://bobosrevenge.blogspot.com/2006/01/dark-side-of-looking-glass-part-two.html< and http://www.thesanitycheck.com/)I find the way the information is presented and the statistics used to be far more convincing thatn these of the negitive BB posting community. I have to wonder if these folks are not the scam rather than the comapnys that they attempt to destroy. This is all JMO, but I for one am not going to let these people with their stale information stop me from investing in something I think has a high level of potential. If I'm wrong you won't see mee doing the negitive BB post boggy but rather move on and try to be more careful. Nez
RRM, Thanks for the directions. Do you think that this is what caused the small run yesterday? Nez
There is a rebellion starting on the RB boards. I think They have had it!
Shorty,
Why don't you write a book, call your congressman, of do something more useful than what you are doing on everyboard I find. Unless, you are part of the team that is ticked off they were beat out of the PLNI deal(Promold aquisition) , it doesn't make any sense for you to be constantly posting info. already known. You are making yourself look like a very sad, pitiful, little man who just wants attention.
You can't possibly be a person trying to save all of the PLNI believers from destruction, no, people like that have better things to do with their time than try and tie up boards.
We are not people with the authority to stop an eeeevil empire like PLNI. That would be the Goverment authorities. Why not go bother them and tie up ther E-mail, phones and mailboxes?
Or better yet, since you are such a stock guru, take some of your millions or get on you're private jet, and go chase down Mr. T with a crew of journalists in tow and ask the really tough questions of them? You probably won't do that because the Govt. and the journalists, would end up investigating you for attempted sabotage of a legit up and comer, misuse of boards intended for investors in PLNI and not a wanna be hero. I got myself in PLNI based on my own thinking. I will either make money or crash and burn the same way. You're posts mean nothing to me and are just plain old annoying. It does however appear that you're only mission is to "shout others down and keep them from communicating." As I said, you have my pity. Let me go broke (Ha) in peace!
Nez
Plasticon International Inc (OTCF: PLNI)
19 Jan 2006, 07:36 PM EST
Blast from the past I had posted earlier in 05 on another board, for all of those conspiracy buffs, and I still feel the same way.. Scam? Yeah right, I said it before and now I'll say it again.
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By: nezttime
23 Sep 2005, 10:35 PM EDT
Msg. 14327 of 32932
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You folks are crazy if you think the following people are part of what has to be the biggest scam in PK history?!? ...
1.) Jim Turek, President and CEO
2.) MoneyTV, Week of 4/29
3.) TheGreenBaron.com
4.) Market Wire / Yahoo Finance
5.) PRIMEZONE Media.Network/ Yahoo Finance
6.) Semco Inc.
7.) R&S Manufacturing
8.) Wall Street Reporter
9.) Pro Mold Inc.
10.)The CRSI
11.)Wall St. Corner's Larry Oakley
12.)Investor's Business Daily
and of course..
13.)BLUELINX a FORTUNE 500 COMPANY
14.)The DOT
15.)Apple(what the heck!)
Note for Plasticon Customers: To reach BLUELINX, direct customer service line, Eastern Division, please call 800-839-2588 -- please ask for Michael Thornton (ext. 35547) or Thomas Fowler (ext. 35562). To reach the Western Division of BLUELINX please call 800-830-7370 -- please ask for Mark Gariepy (ext. 66069). A map of the Eastern and Western divisions of the U.S. for BLUELINX Distribution can be seen on the BlueLinx Corporation web site at http://www.bluelinxco.com/ourProducts/ContactInfo.asp or on the Plasticon International web site at http://www.plasticonintl.com/distributormap.htm.
ADDED TO LIST SINCE,
PrimeZone Engineering News
IBD, another false artical after running one and not taking action for 05!
Apple, another years worth of contract after not taking action for 05!
a) GLOBALSPECS TECHS & SPECS eNEWSLETTER another years worht of reporting falsity after multiple years!
b)Scottrade started posting updates from the likes of..
c)OTCStockExchange.com
d)OTCPicks.com,
e)Daily Market Movers Digest
f)Market Wire
g)ARCH
h)FOX
Numerous grass roots watch dog groups dedicate to uncovering wrong doing in the pks and otcbb markets
There are many other people that must be nuts if they got involved with a scam like this. I think, with all due respect, that the conspiracy buffs, bashers, RS pumpers, etc....are a little off base with this one. If you are so worried, cut your losses and get out now! Stop all of this negative BS. If you have money invested in PLNI, you are certainly not helping yourselves. As I said before, YOU FOLKS ARE CRAZY! JMHO.
GO PLNI, NEZ
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Hold)
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1/19/06 Soooo, all of the above have had one pulled over on them and yet continue to put out, what according to certian people are nothing but lies and false or inaccurate information? Give me a break! These people have buinsesses that are dependent on their credibility and no one places their credibility at risk and thus the future of their enterprise, for one PK stock! That is of course, if the ones expounding on the PLNI conspiracy and snake oil scam have been bribed with a whole lot more money than their buisness is worth as well as their personal integrity.
If the "Scam Proponents" truly believe this they either have no integrity, self respect or are plain old delusional.
Nez
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Hold)
Hi folks,
this is a pay back. MSNC steered me to another cheapie stock. It has been a long wait but the stock PLNI is about to go. It's a great company at the ground floor level. I'm still in MSNC and hope to use some of the gains from PLNI to add here. This is just a thanks for what MSNC has done for me.
Nez