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There are many tests that could be done including calorimetry but these need to be done by an independent competent professional. This has not been done. Yes indeed, the rotoverter joins the long and growing list list of failed overunity devices.
Good questions. What use are these "techs"?, none at all i would guess.
Overunity is a pipe dream that no one has ever achieved. There have been lots of claims, yes, but none has worked and none in the future will work, either. It is fundamentally impossible. There has never been a proper independent test of Holcomb's stuff. It is all tricks with meters reading reactive power rather than real power.
Indeed, if this thing worked it would be a world changing tech, worthy of a string of Nobel prizes longer than your arm. Actually it does not work as the concept is 100% wrong. You had asked about the admission of it not working: in the court case with the car dealership Holcomb states that the contract is purely referring to intellectual property without any statement that it would work to reduce the electricity bill. Holcomb had written the contract without specifying that it would work but suggesting it would. Devious use of language.
No it does not. It is absolutely, utterly impossible, same as any free energy, overunity or more out than in schemes.
That actually could be quite real as there is no mention of the "H" word there.
I don't know anything about the Powertron deal, it might be good, or bad. If 1million has been accepted on the basis of Holcomb claims however, the consequences in the long run can only be bad.
Of course the answer is no. I don't understand some of the promoters and shareholders here. A demo is not proper dd, what is needed is independent professional advice, unless one is competent in the subject matter. If someone told me they could magnify my bank accounts i would be extremely wary and would not put a cent into it without the advice of a competent accountant. The same goes for any "too good to be true" inventions. The failure to get independent advice on this matter leads me to believe there are three possible explanations: (1) they know it does not work but are worried about losses and simply want to keep the share price up to exit with the least losses (2) they are afraid to find out the truth (3) they are gullible. I don't know, but something is very wrong here if people reject the idea of proper professional analysis.
I saw it on a Quantum announcement that popped up as i was doing a search, the date was 7 june.
I am 72 years old and have studied science all my life, often to the detriment of other aspects of living. I do have an open mind and i know what i am talking about. But as i have said repeatedly, again and again, ask the opinion of a professional on this and you will be in for a shock, There are countless scams on the net promising free energy, fuelless engines, magnet motors, water as fuel all with convincing videos that actually prove nothing. A video means nothing unless it is conducted by an independent competent person and if that is not the case it is meaningless.As for ASTRA i hold no opinion, good or bad. There are currently two false claims in the energy field that have my attention, one is Holcomb and the other is Quantum/Inductance energy. And i am quite prepared to wait this out as i have no "skin in the game".
Utterly impossible. Don't take my opinion on this, ask a professional engineer or scientist can power be magnified. I am beginning to think you know the truth, ie that it does not work. Now why would you be doing that? Are you an insider?
I see Bill Hinz has stepped down from quantum. I reckon he is running for the hills before the excrement hits the impeller.
Sure you have, and i have a nda with the tooth fairy and santa claus. The "aether" was a concept when physics had a primitive understanding of electromagnetic phenomena- "aether" does not exist and has been debunked over one hundred years ago. But as i have said before, don't take my word for it, you don't know anything about me and for all you know i could be a raving nutcase. Ask a professional engineer or physicist before buying into anything you do not have a deep understanding of. Engineering has been my business: if i needed a legal opinion i would not look in a maths or engineering book, i would seek out the opinion of a lawyer. Scammers have been claiming perpetual motion, overunity, free energy etc etc for hundreds of years with 0% success. PS: i had not heard of Ashton Forbes before and i looked him up- i don't like using course language but at this point i have no option, this guy is batshit crazy.
There is a very poor appreciation of scientific matters in the general population. Nothing wrong about this but one would expect anyone buying into a scheme like that of Holcomb to at least seek proper scientific evaluation from a professional scientist and NOT accept hype.
Oh dear, what will happen when the Holcomb stuff fails to deliver? I foresee lawsuits coming. I have more chance of flying by pulling hard on my shoelaces than the Holcomb "tech" has of delivering power. And this applies to all claimants of more power out than in, not just Holcomb. Obviously someone somewhere has failed in their dd.
I had a brief look at the most recent batch of nonscience videos from mr D, those ~8-10 months ago. I note he is a lot more vague about what his whirlygig can do. He insists it is not a source of energy(correct) but hints at usefulness through voltage increase, "conditioning" and energy storage. If it cannot produce new energy what the hell use is it? I remain absolutely baffled that this charade is still alive after five years.
This silly photon nonsense is just as bad as the original "earth engine". If one was to cover a room entirely with photovoltaics the best return possible would be ~4%. Ludicrous.
Some people can't handle the truth and this is a very unfortunate situation.
As i have said before, you may be quite correct, or equally you could be in error. None of this is in my area of expertise. However nothing of value will come from Holcomb as his "tech" is nonsense. He even admitted in the court case that it doesn't work.
Excellent job, Dorick, keep up the good work.
Indeed, such a tech, IF real would be one of the greatest human achievements. Anything that is too good to be true is invariably false.
I am not a shareholder, in anything, just a retired engineer. However, i do know bullshit when i see it, no one has the ability to magnify electrical power, not now, not ever. Anyone who makes that claim is either deluded or fraudulent- i will leave it up to your good self to decide.
You need a new electrical engineer, sir. No competent engineer would approve the Holcomb "tech".
As i said i accept your analysis but i feel strongly that personal remarks are not fitting in a forum like this.
I accept your analysis of these matters but surely it can be done without the personal remarks? To me it sounds petty and vindictive. Lets just stick to the facts.
I can explain. It does not work and they know it.
ASTRA may or may not do well, i don't know. However nothing good will come from Holcomb, mark my words.
Yes indeed, there is video evidence to back up this concept.
The game is up for Holcomb. For ASTRA, i can't say as i know very little about them, good or bad. I object to "inventions" that are not physically possible.
If UL testing includes in/out power readings, then it will never happen. I am not at all well up on regulatory matters, that is why i say "if". There is absolutely no chance the "technology" can do what it claims and that goes for all devices with a claimed output greater than input, another example is Inductance Energy's "earth engine". As regards all other ASTRA business, i hold no opinion whatsoever as none of it is in my area of expertise.
Agreed. In the court documents Holcomb states that the contract was for the patent use and no claim performance was included . So what is it, does it work or not? Surely Holcomb's deposition indicates that it is just intellectual property without functionality. None of these things can work, regardless of who designs them, as they are in conflict with the most rigorously tested laws of physics.
Makes no difference how thick his skin is, it will not enable a physically impossible device to function. I came across a 10k from ASTRA for the year ending 31/8/2022 and it has some strange "facts": in it they state that they hold no property and rent on a monthly basis a 100square foot office at 9565 Waples street suite 200. Surely this is a mistake, how could one do any sort of business in a 10x10 space?
Thanks, as i said my knowledge of UL is limited despite it's worldwide standard of excellence. Arc-flash is not a term used on this side but i know what you mean: for example to make a direct connection to the 10kv grid in ireland you need to have a proof voltage rating of 125kv and if you don't have this you have to use an interposing transformer- seemed like a rather onerous requirement.
While UL is essential i don't know whether it would detail power in/power out. I have always been under the impression that it only dealt with safety matters but i could be wrong. I had little experience of regulatory matters in my career and this was limited to the requirements for grid tied power plant(g10 in ireland, g59 in the uk)
Agreed.
Agree, absolutely.
While looking for this site today i accidentally clicked on the Holcomb site and since i was there i had a brief look at it. The website states that all three Holcomb "technologies" have UL and NEC certification???
My only agenda is science. You do not appear to be able to handle the truth, saying not to reply and threatening to put me on ignore. That's all fine with me as i have no skin in the game whatsoever and time will tell who was correct. Anyway i will say goodnight to you, sir, as it is my bedtime(GMT+1 here)
I have read everything you wrote. What you say has no bearing on the laws of physics. What i contend applies to all proposed devices that generate or amplify energy without a fuel source and not just those of holcomb- they are all utterly impossible. If such devices were possible to be produced we would not have a stable universe and we would not exist. The conservation of energy and momentum are fundamental building blocks necessary for a stable and predictable universe.
It has never been subject to a proper independent test, a status it shares with all alleged free energy generators. Simply repeating "it works" endlessly will not change the facts on the ground.