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What in the world are talking about? This deal has NOTHING to do with your claims! My post proves that they had a solution for seamless roaming allready in early 2003 and it applies for cellular as well. And yes, i have a feeling your are lying, sorry for the personal attack, but I have allready proved you wrong!!!! And you can file patent i Norway and it will be protected also in US! Sorry but you are SO wrong about this!
Ok, Im really sorry. please remove both mine and Tennese`s post. But he is lying/talking about things I can prove wrong, so I was provoked. Sorry! This is a stock filing to Oslo Stock Exchange early 2003! It is LONG before Alcatel/Gemplus agreement!
28.01.03 09:49 BIRD BIRDSTEP ANNOUNCES NEW INTELLIGENT MOBILE IP andre børsmeldinger 44K
Advanced Mobile IP Client Enables Seamless Connectivity
Across Different Access Networks; Mobilizes Leading VPN
Solutions and Centralizes Administration.
See attachment at www.newsweb.no
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Birdstep Technology Announces New Version of Intelligent
Mobile IP
Advanced Mobile IP Client Enables Seamless Connectivity
Across Different Access Networks; Mobilizes Leading VPN
Solutions and Centralizes Administration
Seattle/Oslo, Norway - Jan. 28, 2003 - Birdstep Technology
today introduced an advancement in mobility software with
its new version of Intelligent Mobile IP software. Based on
patent-pending technology, the new Intelligent Mobile IP
Client enables secure and continuous connectivity of a
mobile device through any network available - regardless of
whether it`s a wired connection, such as DSL or Ethernet,
or a wireless one, such as wireless LAN (WLAN), Bluetooth
or GSM/GPRS cellular systems.
Birdstep`s Mobile IP software allows users of laptops, PDAs
and other mobile devices to seamlessly connect and re-
connect across different types of infrastructures without
application downtime or user intervention. The client
software automatically changes to an available connection
when an established connection breaks, thus keeping a
session alive, or when a better connection becomes
available. It manages the handover by providing a virtual
unchanged networking state to the application.
If the user is downloading a large file and moves from WLAN
to GPRS, the only noticeable difference is a change in
connection speed. Users or administrators can also preset
their connection preferences based on cost or performance.
`The demand for, and corresponding growth of, wireless hot
spots reflects the public`s desire for easy-to-use,
reliable, ubiquitous Internet access,` said Scott Miller,
analyst for La Jolla, Calif.-based research firm ARS
Inc. `Birdstep`s Mobile IP solution moves us one step
closer to a truly mobile workforce by allowing users to
roam seamlessly and easily between wired and wireless
networks and broadband and narrowband connections, while
maintaining a secure link to the corporate network.`
Birdstep`s Intelligent Mobile IP is standards-based client
software that collaborates with third-party VPNs to
facilitate uninterrupted movement between different
internal networks, between different external networks and
across the security boundary protected by VPN and firewall
technologies.
`By supporting existing standards and legacy network
infrastructure, Birdstep`s Intelligent Mobile IP enables
the mobilization of a corporate VPN,` said Terje Anderson,
chief executive officer of Birdstep Technology. `Birdstep
protects a company`s VPN investment and ensures that the
company`s security policies are enforced. Network
administrators can rest assured that their existing VPN
solution remains in full control of all external access to
the corporate intranet.`
Designed for mobile operators and enterprises, the new
Intelligent Mobile IP software is offered in two versions -
universal and standard. The universal edition offers a VPN
on/off feature, which turns the user`s VPN on when using an
external, unsecured network, such as a public WLAN hot spot
or public cellular service.
It also turns the VPN off when using a secure connection,
such as Ethernet or the corporate WLAN with dynamic WEP
key, to the company network. This feature reduces the load
on VPN concentrators.
Birdstep`s Intelligent Mobile IP simplifies large-scale
deployments with automatic configuration of the Mobile IP
client via a Web-based configuration server in the
enterprise or at the service provider. In-depth technical
training on Mobile IP technology and Birdstep`s Mobile IP
software is also available on the company web site at
www.birdstep.com.
Other products offered by Birdstep include a wireless
access software suite for implementing wireless IP Zones or
hot spots. At the core of the suite is IP Zone Server
software, which is designed for public WLAN/Bluetooth
access areas and provides cross-platform authentication so
that any device with a wireless connection and a web
browser can get access.
Additional elements in the software suite include the
Nomadic Portal, for device-independent publication of local
information using XML-structured content, and the Billing
Gateway, for implementing various billing methods.
About Birdstep Technology
Birdstep Technology Inc. was founded in Oslo, Norway in
1996 and is traded on the Oslo Stock Exchange (OSE) under
ticker `BIRD`. The company has approximately 80 employees
in Oslo and Seattle. Birdstep`s small footprint, high
performance database technologies combined with its
wireless roaming and access software enables companies to
build innovative solutions for embedded systems and the
Mobile Internet. Named a 2002 Comet Award winner by
Communication Systems Design magazine, Birdstep makes your
information accessible anytime, anywhere, on any device and
on any infrastructure. For more information, visit
www.birdstep.com.
Ok, I see. Too bad. I don`t wont do discuss BT here on this board, but could you find the date of the post?
Please post this about Birdstep on the Bird board. Or else your provoking me to prove that you`re wrong/lying. Of course they have a solution for cellular wifi and they had it long time before the Alcatel/Gemplus deal. Gemplus and Alcatel don`t provide any extra usage to the Client, they provide additional features such as security and others. The patent was claimed in late 2002 in Norway, there is no need to apply for patent in US, when you allready have applied in Norway, if you`re not talking about a new patent. I didn`t want to discuss this and I would be happy if nligtn would remove both mine and your post. Please stop lying about things you can`t prove, beacuse I have proved the cellular-wifi SEVERAL times on this board!
Can you please put out a link so we can read this?
I have a feeling your link is really old, but i might be wrong. If you could put out a link, things would be clearer, beacuse I have a feeling that this is from long before Nortel signed BT!
Well, they`re filing is late and they have almost no cash left, and someone in they company says that they don`t need any funding, even though their OWN filing says they need 5 million dollars. We are five months in 04 and they haven`t generated any proper contracts, so they won`t have any cash left and if they don`t need any funding, then theyre will go bankrupt or being sold to someone.
the bankrupcy bells? I wonder how much their patent will cost if they go bankrupt?
then they are around three weeks late! It will be interesting to se how much (little) cash that is left by the end of march!
Well, it is over 2 weeks since may 17, so there are probably some problems. I also have a bankrupcy feeling. And they way George answered you was not a good sign. I feel i confirmed that China is not worth close to 500 million dollars and that they took this figure from thin air. That i said they are well funded is REALLY strange, since everyone can read their filings and we all know that they have a really small cash position, maybe no cash at this date? So, off course they need funding, but maybe they can`t get it?
To me, this China deal seams more and more fake. They way answer put the 500 million in doubt, even though I allready had doubts. And that they don`t need any more funding? That sound totally unrealistic. They don`t have any cash, are they expecting to surivive with less than 1 million dollars? When their competitors have more 15 times that in cash? Does anyone actually know how little 1 million dollar is in this game? specially when their products aren`t ready and they can`t expect any more income. As i said before, no funding in the next couple of months can indicate bankruptcy!
What really scares me, is posts like this (from ragingbull):
"Just got off phone with George
2nd time i have talked to him recently. He states that calypso is financially sound for the forseeable future. He also says that calypso has had many offers of financing but the company has refused these offers as they are not in need of any.
10Q was sent to lawyers 2 weeks ago and that is where the delay is on that just like before.
Some news - i held off the last time we spoke but since i have not seen a release i will tell you now that the TV show hosted by Al Haig has done a 2nd interview segment lasting 15 minutes to be aired in the future.
Seems confident that asnap is the only way for the wireless industry to make the money using all the new tech coming out now.
T"
Off course i don`t believe that he has spoken to George, but someone else might. And to almost con people into believing that CLYW can make it without extra funding is quite sad. There is no doubt that CLYW need money, and they need it fast. That they are late with they`re filing again, can indicate problems with getting such funding. I think they will need 4-5 million dollars to actually finish the product, 4-5 million dollars to have in court battles, that means almost 10 million dollars and that is probably a to low figure. But anyway they have less than 1 today (probably close to 0) and that means they need up to 10 million dollars in one or more stock issues. They can probably wait with some of the money, but 2-3 million dollars is needed short term and if nothing happens within the next couple of months (regarding funding), then i think CLYW will go bankrupt!
Well this is what he said about the prototypes. It sounds like they won`t be rady until late summer. So it seems that there is no special demo available and probably no prototype either. Since Clyw say there prototype won`t be ready until late summer, then they would need extra funding for at least 3 or 4 months, beacuse prototypes won`t generate any real income. Lord Ship says they would be out of cash by now, so how can they manage without money? You`ve all ready their last (late) filing, they are out of cash, and won`t get any real income in the short run either. :
"We are hoping for late summer. Please understand the process and timing. First, the prototype PDA phones are built to our specifications. They then go to our new R&D Facility in Akron for the ASNAPtm installation. They are then tested by our engineers and deemed ready for shipment for the field trials. Now, please understand, the phone is 1/3 of the equation."
That is quite strange. When you assumed that the filing was coming 28.5 you said that in public. But when it hasn`t shown up, you don`t won`t to say anything in public. Why is that?
In other words they are not finished with proper prototypes. Then how in the world could they have signed a 500 millon dollar contract? People don`t sign 500 mill contracts when they are no prototypes to show. The filing is late and has sug say: how much money could be left?
Well, If you actually got that information from the company then i would be scared. But you didn`t actually get any information from the company, did you? Anyway you where wrong!
sorry but this is not correct. today there is no problem getting a patent. if there i something unique with your patent you can get it and if there is noe claim against the filing. And there is no such thing as a world patent and thats why it is difficult to determine who was first and so on. If I filed somethin in Norway 10 years ago, then you could have gotten the same patent 2-3 years ago and without me finding out, but when i find it out i can use my patent as a proof in court.
I`m not saying anything bad about CLYWs patent but you can get a patent for almost everything. if you change usage a bit from an existing patent you can get a new one. it is also no such thing as a global patent, so if you claim patent in US or Norway you can`t be 100% sure that no one has filed the same patent in India.
I think its the same. Norman is a norwegian software company that has a antivirus unit and a system recover unit ( for example recover lost data from SMS or computers) called IBAS.
A trap? You guys crack me up. Do you think I am that stupid? I don`t care if I am a basher or not, but it is so obvious that you guys think I am , so that is why I answered. TO be quite honest I am not 100% sure what basher means, but I guess it has something to do with just negative foucs on stocks. If that is right then I don`t care if you think I am basher or not, maybe I am a basher! But i did not get trapped or anything, hehe.
Anyway, I`m quite surprised that CLYW is falling on ok volum today. Was the rise yesterday driven bye rumours or anything?
I agree, but then everybody else should stop talking about BT. If you check the Bird you`ll se that i stopped talking about BT, but that others braught it up. If everybody else stop talking about BT, I will to!
Isn`t it normal to have a deadline in first of june or somethin like that. In norway we have a 2 months deadline, but maybe there are other rules for unlisted US companies?
Thats fine! But I am 100% sure that Birdstep do not provide any FA, they have their on client that works together with FA and HA from other providers such as Cisco!
I am no expert in this field but Birdstep does NOT provide FA, just to make that clear! The Mobile IP client is not FA. I wish I could be better to explain and even though you probably know tech much better than me, i think you get this wrong. But we can stop to talk about BT now and i will let jo enjoy the expected share rise today.
Yes that is an advantage for Birdstep. The client need that to work. Remember Mobile IP consist of three key elements Foreign agent, Home Agent and a Client. Birdstep provide a Client which can seamlessly roam through different nets, few others have such a client that work with both FA/HA. Verizon do NOT have such a client themselves!
hehe. I can prove to you that they have tested Birdstep!
hehe. They are testing both! And as i said yesterday Netmotion and Birdstep can complement each other.!
I react like this: Clyw share will probably rise beacuse of this, but the PR still focus on large companies not involved like At&T, Vodafone and Bell south. Maybe CLYW is testing with a major carrier and if they are i understand that the name is secret, but there is no mentioning of when, where and how in the PR. And field test is ok but remember major companies test dozins of solutions. Birdstep are being tested by at least 15 mobile operators and I know all of their competitors also have been tested. So this could be something for CLYW, but i doubt that a major carrier will choose their phone and don`t believe it until i see actual product SOLD, not tested and companies involved mentioned and money involved mentioned!
When is CLYW`s first quarter report expected?
Nortel is the one selling. Birdstep is not promoting any Nortel news. This news is not on birdsteps homepage either and this will probably not show up before Nortel sell the product to carriers. The same thing happent with the Alcatel agreement. A filing to Ose 4.2 2004, no news on Birdstep or Alcatels homepage until 27.4 2004 when alcatel lauched their product and now Birdstep have alcatel agreement on the homepage and Alcatel have the agreement on their homepage. It has to do with large companies controlling the way things happens. If you look closely at Nortels homepage you will find the Nortel/Ibm/Verizon/Birdstep info! But Nortel will sell Birdstep product to mobile operators like Verizon or Cingular!
Nemotion is partly a competitior of Birdstep. They don`t have the complete solution as Birdstep have and the client can be integrated in a Nemotion offer. Netmotion also collabarate with a company called I-Care.
Nortel deliver to carriers and will therfore sell the Mobile IP client to carriers who will sell to end users. The Client can be sold separate or included in a bigger package.
I think NT is a good bet. You now, scandals and stuff ALWAYS cause a bigger fall then it should. Also NT is a key player in wireless. NT signed a reseller agreement with Birdstep in January 2004, they have been working together for 1 1/2 years. Verizon is likely to choose Birdstep since they had sucessful testing together with IBM and Nortel in 2002. It is expected to be results from the Nortel agreement in late 2004 and 2005.
Here is the Nortel filing to OSE on January 8 2004:
08.01.04 09:53 BIRD NORTEL TO RESELL BIRDSTEP`S MOBILE IP CLIENT avtaler
Birdstep has signed a reseller agreement with Nortel, the
global supplier of telecom infrastructure. In its dialogue
with telecom operators, Nortel will promote the Birdstep
software that makes information accessible on any device on
any infrastructure.
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Nortel is one of the world`s largest suppliers of telecom
infrastructure, and delivers networking and communication
services and infrastructure equipment to service providers
and enterprises in more than 150 countries. Nortel is the
number two supplier of CDMA infrastructure globally.
Because of the strong position Nortel has in the global
telecom market, the agreement is of significant importance
and opening new channels for Birdstep Technology. Nortel
will promote the Birdstep-solution towards telecom
operators when selling its telecom infrastructure
solutions, and the agreement opens up for future sales of
the Birdstep`s Mobile IP client software.
This agreement represents an important step in establishing
a strong position in the different channels to reach the
global telecom market.
When telecom operators distribute the software from
Birdstep to it`s subscribers, information/data on any
mobile device (e.g. lap top PC, PDA or smart phone) will be
accessible all the time as it is being moved between
various networks as for example GSM, GPRS or EDGE.
Maybe I`m a trader or maybe I`m short. You`ll never now. I discuss CLYW on this board but you asked me about which shares I thought you should invest in, and i answered!
I have som tips: You should invest in Birdstep, Opera Software and PSI on OSE
HP, SINA and lately (after the scandal) NT in US
. On OMX (swedish stock exchange) you should invest in DICE and Cashguard.
Companies you don`t invest in are companies which are misleading investor, not listed anywhere, files late and have contracts/agreements which there are lots of reasons to ask questions about. Questions which the company won`t answer. Like how the China contract is doing and how much money they expect to earn this year and the next and why things are taking so long. Why they saying there testing, when testing occure before contracts are signed, specialy when we are talking 500 million dollars (supposedly)!
No, they`re not but they can offer solutions that are good enough. Calypso`s cellphones haven`t sold so far and will probably never sell so much. All i am saying is that there is competitive solutions and that there is a lot of ways to organize video conference.
Here are som companies like Tandberg and Polycom. Tandberg is norwegian and I know they are working on and have solution for Smartphones in cooperation with Cisco. There are other companies that offer similar solutions.
http://www.videocall.net/ProductsVideoMfg.cfm?txtMfg=Tandberg
There are lots of other way to solve this for Comcast. I think CLYW won`t stand a chance. Video conference over the net is allready an established market with lots of player with funds and experience.
Using VOIP you may be able to do the things you are talking about, but then you are using signal only from on radio frequeny. What I was talking about is that you are not able to take advantage of bot Wifi signal and UMTS or CDMA at the same time. But from one signal you can access/use both voice (VOIP equals data) and data if there is enough bandwith present. Today there would probably be difficult doing this at 3G nets or GRPS, but with Wifi or bluetooth it may be possible.