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Difficulty downloading the NeoReader.
With folks mentioning that there is a new version of NeoReader available I thought I'd check to see if there was an update for my phone, which is an AT&T Fuze, also known as an HTC Touch Pro.
I go to get.neoreader.com as directed and am presented with a list of phone manufacturers, one of which is HTC. I click that and a column of HTC phone models appears to the right. The Touch Pro is on that list, indicating that the NeoReader is compatible.
So where is the download link for NeoReader? Clicking the phone model does nothing. Clicking the column heading 'Get NeoReader' returns to the previous page. There's a link to go 'back to WAP download' which just starts the process over again. Nowhere do I find anywhere to click and download the software to my phone.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm not a computer noob or new to websurfing on my cell, either. If I can't find it, I don't know how anyone less knowledgeable or experienced is supposed to find it.
You're mixing apples and oranges. Practice is practice, qualifying is qualifying. You can't "qualify in practice."
For those who do not know, you don't just unload the truck at each track and drive away, everything is adjusted for each individual track; tire pressures, shock settings, gearing, weight distribution, brake bias, etc. Very tiny adjustments make a huge difference. The motors are generally torn down and rebuilt after every race, too. The two practice sessions give the teams a chance to adjust all this stuff for the best lap times.
The next session is qualifying. Each truck is given a chance to get up to speed and then run two timed laps alone on the track. The lower (faster) of the two lap times is your qualifying time and decides where in the field (and if) you start the race. After this qualifying session you are not allowed to change anything on the truck before the race.
The 00 Potencia truck did not even attempt to qualify. The 01 Koma truck did attempt but missed making the field because the qualifying times were too slow. The Koma truck actually outpaced two trucks that did start the race, but they were guaranteed starting spots due to their position in the owner's points from last season, so the two slowest non-guaranteed trucks got bumped.
For the other comments, Kevin Harvick (a Sprint Cup driver) won the truck race today. Daisy went from 9th and 13th in owner points after the last race at Daytona to now being 26th and 35th in owner points.
They didn't interview every other driver, just the well known ones, former champs, etc.
They didn't show every other qualifying attempt, either. There was about half a dozen trucks that weren't shown. I doubt there's anything underhanded to that, just luck of the draw and timing as it relates to commercials. They are going to work around making sure they show the trucks with well known drivers, likely to run at the front of the pack. The DLR trucks and drivers aren't really noteworthy, so the director is going to choose to run the commercials during that time rather than during Dennis Setzer, Ron Hornaday or the Bodine's attempts.
I am interested to find out why the Potencia Truck didn't try to qualify. Ironically, no matter how it ran, it would have insured that a DLR truck got into the race! If it ran faster than the 01, it would have been in the race, while the 01 would still be out. If it ran slower than the 01, it would have pushed the 01 into the race by being one of the 3 slowest trucks.
Yes, I hope they are making the most of their presence at the track. Maybe we'll get some pics or vids. I don't know if we'll get a PR since the trucks didn't qualify. Maybe a PR about promotions with a passing mention of the trucks' status.
00 Potencia Truck didn't even try to qualify, as far as I can tell.
01 Koma Unwind Truck tried and failed to qualify. The qualifying attempt wasn't even televised, save for the last 2 seconds shown as the coverage was returning from a commercial, during which the sponsor was neither visible nor mentioned.
There will be no DLR/BW trucks in this afternoon's NCWTS race.
I know this has nothing to do with selling beverages, but I thought I'd give everyone an update on the Truck Series progress. Feel free to say "who cares?" I care because I'm a race fan regardless of DLR/BW's involvement.
In today's first practice, neither the 01 Koma Unwind truck nor the Potencia 00 truck participated.
In today's final practice leading up to the qualifying @ 9:30am Saturday morning, the 00 Potencia Truck was still MIA, but Carl Long practiced in the 01 Koma Unwind Truck and chalked up a time 3+ seconds and 15+ MPH slower than the fastest time, placing him 37th out of 38 trucks. Of course they do have time to improve the truck(s) prior to tomorrow's qualifying, so this is no absolute indicator.
For tomorrow's qualifying, the 00 Potencia truck, apparently now driven by 'Chase Miller' will be the 25th truck to attempt to qualify. The 01 Koma Unwind Truck will make its attempt 32nd. Both trucks are required to qualify on time, which means they don't get a free pass as a result of their points position after 5 races in 2009 (since the teams didn't exist). The field for a NCWTS race starts with 36 trucks, so they only need to finish ahead of the last three in order to start the race.
Here is a little info about the new driver listed for the 00 Potencia truck:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Miller
He also has a website, but it's not up to date.
http://www.chasemiller.net/
Here is his record driving in the NASCAR Truck series:
http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/cmiller02/truck/index.html
Good luck to both the DLR/BW Trucks this weekend.
Thanks for that pointer, Claw. I read through the posts and waded through the bickering between F and D, but saw something mentioned that had also crossed my mind in trying to sort out the rhyme and reason for the recent 8K.
I have wondered why something so glaringly negative as the 8K was just dropped like a bomb and has had such weak followup. I wonder if it wasn't deliberately meant to seem as negative as possible for the purpose of getting frustrated/disgusted shareholders to sell. Manipulation inexorably driving the PPS down (as evidenced by very low volume and inordinate price movement) could add to the panic selling.
I don't have a complete conspiracy theory in mind, but I can imagine that some parties might be interested in owning as many shares as possible ahead of the special SHM. That could be especially useful if there are questions about the legality of some of the actions being taken re: temporary majority voting rights, etc.
With so much speculation and rumor around all of this and even the official documents open to interpretation, it's useful to roll all these conspiracies around looking for something potentially meaningful. TIA for sharing your insight and experience.
Shouldn't be a problem. Saturday is supposed to be sunny and mid 50s.
NASCAR can usually dry a track sufficiently after a downpour to get the races going within a few hours by using 'jet dryers.' Those are jet engines mounted on the back of or pulled behind trucks with the exhaust directed at the track surface. They drive slowly around in circles until the surface dries out.
http://www.eagle-enterprises.com/jet-dryers.html
That's not a question with one simple answer.
Do I think it's all a scam? No. The subject of some of the PRs are verifiable facts, for instance, about the NASCAR stuff.
Do I think the truth in some PRs is stretched, spun and distorted to make things look better than they really are? Yes. Like when BBDA hooks up with a distributor who has associations with Coke or Bud and those two brands are trumpeted in the PR.
The question for me is WHY is that done? What would be the purpose of making the company look like it's doing better than it really is? Why would a PR try to steal the buzz from a huge brand like Coke or Bud?
The obvious answer is to attract new investors. A new investor buys shares. So by extension, the purpose of those PRs is to get people to buy shares. A newish public company that needs to raise capital may do so by selling shares, there's nothing wrong or deceptive there.
However, that leads to an expectation of accountability for the money raised through selling the shares and this company is unwilling to provide that. The longer they go without letting people know where the money is going, the more people are going to decide that there's something dishonest happening. Follow the trail: Fluffy, pumping PRs lead to selling shares and there's no accounting for the cash.
BBDA can claim all kinds of things about where the product is sold and some folks on this board can offer empty assurances that all those claims are true, but until it can be verified by someone other than the same people who make the claims, many people choose not to believe the distribution is all that widespread. Some PRed distributors have turned out to be nothing at all. The products have been seen in the wild in a only a few locations. By all verifiable appearances, there have been a ton of shares sold and not much to show for it as far as product on the shelves, selling and bringing in revenue.
The purpose of a beverage company is to sell beverages, nothing more, nothing less. All the PRs about distributors and trips to other countries and NASCAR don't mean anything until they result in drinks being sold. And since BBDA PRs everything that happens with even the tiniest shred of positivity in it, wouldn't they also PR any encouraging sales numbers? If they actually sold out on Amazon.com, they'd PR that in a heartbeat. (despite the fact that Amazon.com just passes orders along to BBDA and they can't actually 'sell out')
BBDA seems to spend as much time trying to get people interested in the company itself as the products. Without selling drinks, the company is irrelevant. It begs the question: why are they trying so hard to sell people on the idea of the company?
Do you speak English? Maybe you think I'm bashing because you just can't understand what I'm saying.
Where did I say I was sure the "stock will never produce more than 32K in gains"? I didn't say that in any way, shape or form. I was making a projection about the current state of things based on what we supposedly know, plus adding in some optimistic guesses. If BBDA gives us "sales figures", what do you think they will be based on? The future? I asked you to tell me where YOU think the sales are coming from. I notice you didn't answer the question.
Furthermore, where did I say the PPS is never going to go up? I didn't say that or infer it. I asked how you think the predictably small amount of sales the company has likely had to date is going to be big enough to push the PPS up as you seem to suggest. Here's exactly what you said:
Klins...I'm not trying to bash, but on what are you basing your impression that sales numbers will send the PPS up? Where is it you think there has been substantial sales?
The products have only been verified to be in a handful of convenience stores. Even if there's 30 stores and they each sell a 12 pack a day for an entire quarter, that's still only 1350 cases of product. If they make $1 on each can, that's still only about $32K revenue. You can use whatever voodoo math you want, but $32K income isn't going to be pumping up the value of a stock with close to 9 Billion shares.
Are you supposing that there's revenue coming on from shipping containers going to S. Africa and S. America? While I personally don't believe anything is happening in any of those areas with BBDA, the cost of shipping the product there would entirely negate any income from selling it, even if it were.
Do you think there's substantial income from the web store? Do you really think anyone besides curious shareholders have purchased product from there?
In my opinion, which is certainly not a fact or represented as such, there's no sales figures because they are comically low and BW doesn't want anyone to see them. This company trumpets even the slightest positive news the first chance it gets and this is no different. If there were impressive sales numbers you can bet they'd be released and PRed by now.
And no, BW isn't holding them back for some kind of great announcement to shoot the PPS up into the stratosphere. Why anyone would think he does things that way when he publicly makes
one simple wrong decision after another is comical all by itself.
All any rational, thinking person has to do is make a mental list. Put the verifiable positives on one side and the verifiable negatives on the other in regards to this stock. Which list is longer?
Are you suggesting that investors will take them to task on the phone, similar to the last time? What makes you think they are going to allow phone calls or even broadcast the meeting?
My impression is that they are holding the meeting as a formality, not a means to communicate. It's in the smallest possible space and will probably last no longer than necessary. I also believe that unless you are in the room, you aren't going to hear what's going on.
Recall that it's not an Annual Shareholder's Meeting, it's a 'Special Meeting.'
Yes, it's sold out if it was ever, in fact, actually available thru Amazon. They also have no idea when or even if they can get any more.
Funny how it immediately seemed to everyone here that it had sold out. You do realize that Amazon.com doesn't buy a bunch of it and have it in a warehouse someplace, right? You do understand that they just pass along the order to the seller and they pay a commission for the listing, right? In other words, BBDA simply isn't able or willing to fill any order they get from Amazon.
Maybe all the 'extra' cans of KU and Potencia shots are being loaded into shipping containers for South Africa and South America. I sure hope one of the handful of convenience stores that carry the product don't sell out of the few cans they have, because there's apparently no more available. Maybe that's why they aren't in any Piggly Wiggly stores, who knows.
Just goes to show you some people see the glass half full and some see it half empty. Some of us see fantastic demand and the product being sold out. Some of us see a sad inability to fill orders or respond to potential demand. Some of us might even see it as an effort to make it appear that these products are available when they aren't.
Believe me, anywhere YA has their tentacles I am immediately suspicious of anything I read, especially something that sounds this uncharacteristic.
It should be easy to see if there's any substance to it by running the Google app and seeing where it resolves to, no? I don't have an Android phone, or I would do it myself.
Or maybe it's just sort of a 'shot across the bow' thing by NEOM? Show Google you're supportive of their new app and casually make note that it apparently uses your IP in hopes they will get the message? That seems to match the message given by IM in the GoMoNews interview.
It is very provocative, for sure. Provocative of what, we don't know. As usual.
On the other hand, IM's recent grinningly-toned interview about looking forward to working with Google, followed by NEOM's director of business development clearly pushing Google's new app in this article, could be the tip of a very large iceberg.
Wishful thinking, of course, but perhaps one of the elusive NDAs had something to do with Google's involvement. If YA had reason to not let the PPS go up, keeping a tie-in with Google secret would make sense. It would also make sense to 'let the cat out of the bag' now if their intent was to boost the PPS prior to the SHM and the expected r/s approval.
Just thinking out loud. Anyone got an Android-powered phone to check out the new app and see if there's any evidence of NEOM/NSR involvement?
Just out of curiousity, why would a 'soft drink giant' bother buying this company?
Would it be for the formulation of the drinks? To think that a 'soft drink giant' doesn't already have multiple formulations of their own for any possible market segment is pretty silly. Do you really think Brian Weber's genius beverage industry skills have totally scooped Coke and Pepsi?
Would it be to buy the existing market share and name recognition? BeBevCo products are all but totally unknown. A 'soft drink giant' could put their own new product in 10000 times more stores than BeBevCo's stuff with minimal effort.
Would it be for the artwork on the cans/bottles? You don't think a 'soft drink giant' can get a dozen better looking proposals from a Madison Avenue ad agency and would do so even if they did buy BBDA's product lines?
So really, what's in it for a 'soft drink giant'?
Yeah, you're right. I should know better than to question anything one of the anointed ones says and just accept it at face value. It's unreasonable to question official information about BeBevCo from volunteer Craigslist models, passed through other people who don't even work for the company.
I liked the picture of the truck from the race where you can see the 'BBDA.PK' on the deck lid. So BBDA.PK paid Daisy Ramirez racing to advertise on the truck? That is an excellent way to increase the visibility of the stock symbol. That will go a long way towards getting the Koma Unwind name out and the product available! Yay!
After looking at all 75 pictures of the KU distribution at Daytona, I wonder where they were keeping the 100 cases? All I see is a guy with a little red and black roll-around cooler. There was no display with signs or anything? Not even a van or pickup truck with signage on it and 100 cases inside?
Why are the KOMA girls emailing an assistant mod from a stock message board who doesn't even work for the company? Why are volunteer 'models' gotten from a Craigslist Ad even aware that "the investors" need to know anything about what they're doing?
It doesn't say that NSR won't pay for the use of NEOM's IP, though you might imagine NEOM will follow suit, it says they won't charge campaign managers who, in turn, aren't charging their own customers.
Seems like a provision allowing campaign managers to offer 'free trials' without losing money while trying to jump-start the acceptance of the new tech.
It also suggests the freebie is contingent on good faith negotiating of a commercial agreement before 12/2010.
It does seem consistent with IM's suggestions that the end of this year would be where substantial monies start coming in.
Hey jdub,
They don't have to sell any more shares to get money for the race team. Didn't you read what srloan wrote? They have plenty of sponsors paying for it, already. And those are not even counting the sponsors srloan has brokered deals with and isn't telling us about.
And since Ryan was given the pricing data for the race team the last time he visited the offices/garage-mahal, he let us know that Daisy's race team pays less for all their trucks and parts and stuff than other race teams pay. We really don't need much to fund the racing effort!
Add to that, with the great finish by the two DLR trucks in last weekend's race, the rest of the season is pretty much paid for, anyway.
They aren't FACTS unless you cite the source and it can be verified. They certainly aren't FACTs just because you say they are.
I'll save you the trouble. These 'facts' are copied and pasted from this article:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/300888-nascar-love-for-stickers-continues-to-stick-around
In contrast, here's an official NASCAR PR:
http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/02/10/contingency.awards.sponsors/index.html
Here's some facts from that official NASCAR press release, with added boldface:
Back that statement up with a verifiable list or I am going to presume it is BS like much of what you say.
I know for a fact you repeatedly pull numbers out of thin air and then refuse/avoid to back them up with anything. This is no different.
I would also like to know exactly how money is passed around among all the BW/DLR companies and exactly who owns what. Since half of them are private and are not required to report this info, that is unlikely to happen. How convenient.
I've called it a shell game and stand by that util someone shows me otherwise. If and when money actually starts coming in from sales of BBDA products, it's got to go through this virtual pachinko machine of overlapping interested companies and CEOs and COOs who all work for/own multiple involved companies before it ever gets anywhere near shareholder value.
And why is it necessary to set up a chat room just to answer legitimate questions? What a crock. Of course, there will be complete honesty and transparency and no censorship at all in the chat room. Suuuuure...
What other sponsors? Aside from the Seneca Cigarettes, I mean? Are you talking about all the little contingency decals that don't pay a cent unless you place highly? A few of them might be paying out for a top ten finish, but I kinda doubt it. How many times does this have to be pointed out here?
An excellent first effort from a new team. As noted elsewhere, if all the top trucks hadn't crashed out of contention, they wouldn't have finished that well, but at least they weren't start 'n' parkers. Luck is big component of racing and the DLR trucks seem to have had a magic shield around them last night.
It's nice that everyone is so high on this great finish, but buying a truck team to advertise the products and give them exposure is still a ridiculously expensive idea for all the reasons already mentioned. Did anyone here run out to check out any of the other products advertised on the other trucks you saw run last night? Without looking it up, can you even recall the sponsors of the top 5 trucks from last night? There just aren't that many or that great of a diversity of people watching or attending that race compared to the number of people you need to expose the products to for cost-effective advertising. And honestly, I was watching deliberately to see the product logos and how much time they were clearly visible enough to allow people who don't already know them to see, understand and remember them and it just wasn't happening. Sorry. Just because the people here are excited because a truck they already have a mental image of was on the screen for 3 seconds doesn't mean anyone else in the world saw or remembered it!
The winnings from last night aren't paid to the sponsors of the trucks, so I don't know why everyone thinks they have anything to do with BBDA. In one breath, the pumpers are trying to tell us that BBDA didn't pay for the teams, but in the next breath are talking about how the winnings are going to benefit BBDA. Which one is it? At any rate that prize money isn't going to foot the bill for long. After paying all the people involved (including the drivers, who probably got a bonus for a good finish), paying the entrance fees into the races, paying for tires, fuel and wear and tear on the trucks, paying for the transport costs to schlep the trucks around, paying for the team and all the support gear and shop in the first place, etc, there's most likely nothing left, anyway. Racing is a VERY expensive business. The only outside $ the team is getting is from srloan's company, Seneca and Uppy's.
And by the way, srloan, Monster energy does NOT own the Monster racing team. More BS from you.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=46634677
http://teamturnermotorsports.com/news/full/48
They sponsor it. If owning it was better and more cost-effective, they'd own it.
At any rate, it was fun to see the trucks do so well. I would have liked it more if my DVR hadn't stopped recording @9:30 with 3 laps to go. Grrr.
Since they'll be a sticker on the truck and obviously want their name known, you should have no trouble telling us who the retailer is.
Are they going to be paying the team as much as the "sponsors" you provided yesterday? You know..the two contingency program companies you mentioned and the company who isn't even on the sponsor list of DLR racing?
You continue to believe that either DLR truck winning this race is going to pay some meaningful amount of money. I believe you even said a couple days ago that a win would pay for the rest of the season. You really need to stop misrepresenting the numbers and talking about racing, which you clearly have no knowledge or understanding of. People don't get into the Truck series to make money. The vast majority of them lose a ton of money. One win does not equal profit and when there's a win the money isn't paid to the sponsor, anyway! If BBDA doesn't even own the team, how is it you expect them to make money off it?
That's not accurate. The Truck race is at 7PM Eastern Time tonight.
http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/02/12/friday.at.daytona/index.html
So you're saying a 30 second spot on SPEEDTV during a NASCAR Camping World Truck series race costs 1.5 million dollars? Why would anyone pay 1.5 million to be seen by an audience that doesn't even average half a million viewers? That doesn't address the utter stupidity buying a race team in hopes of "maybe" advertising for a few seconds to a national audience when the product isn't available nationally.
And WHO are the sponsors besides BW/Daisy companies and yourself? You keep avoiding that question, even in the PM you sent me. You've said you pay for the fuel, so BW/Daisy pay for everything else. If there's other sponsors, why aren't they listed on the DLR website or on the truck? What kind of an idiot pays to sponsor something and then keeps their name secret? If there's other sponsors - tell us who they are.
You can throw whatever made-up numbers you want at us, the plain truth is that this whole NASCAR team ownership thing is a monumental waste of money and everyone knows it. If BW and Daisy want to go racing on their own dime (once again...WHO is paying for it besides them and you?) that's fine, but there's no justification for spending beverage company money on buying and running a NASCAR truck team. None.
And spare me the PM responses. Nothing I'm asking about isn't info that should be known to everyone on this board.
The point should be obvious and wasn't directed only at you. I just replied to you because you seem not to understand why what people like Sammy post is necessary.
Every day, new people come across this stock without knowing what's going on now or the history of what's happened. If those new people only get pumped up new PRs about racing and distribution without having any of the gross mismanagement, lack of transparency and repeated broken promises pointed out right along with it, they aren't going to have the accurate view of the reality of the company and stock that any potential investor deserves.
For people who can't understand why former shareholders hang around to keep pointing out the realities of the company to potential new investors, here's an analogy:
Suppose you went to a buffet to eat because there were pictures of steak and lobster and all the other kinds of incredible food being served inside.
But after you pay and go in, it turns out there's nothing on the buffet but baloney sandwiches and the cook standing there telling you all the great food will be brought out 'sooooon.' And there's a handful of people there devouring the baloney sandwiches and talking about what fantastic steak and lobster it is.
On your way out, you see other people looking at the pictures of steak and lobster and heading in. Would you just watch them walk in or do you say, "Hey, don't believe the pictures, there's nothing but baloney sandwiches in there."
You don't do that because you hate the buffet owner, or because you want them to lower the price so you can eat there more cheaply, you don't do it because you're trying to be a hero. You do it because it's the decent and considerate thing to do.
Pointing out that baloney sandwiches aren't steak and lobster isn't bashing the baloney sandwiches, it's just an accurate description, which is what any potential new investor deserves when considering buying a stock.
As long as there are people here repeatedly posting overly optimistic views of what's going on and not daily reminding potential new investors about the glaring problems and inconsistencies, then there's an absolute need for people to keep the info balanced. Just because you own the stock and don't want to think about the potential of it being a dud, doesn't mean other people shouldn't be aware of the facts.