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NICE WORK COPMPA !!!
Vtec - Is the pretty girl in school , that eveyone wanted to see, knowing in the back of your mind she would break your heart.
I am fully invested, back in at 35 cents average. I hope to see a dollar by the time Santa Claus comes around. Or when hell has a snowstorm.
TIME TO BUY !! - trend will be your friend at this level- nice volume - level II looks strong with head badboy looking to buy not sell stock - How short is he for real ?? - I would dollar cost average buying small lots of 5000 so you don't chase the stock - Good Hunting !!!
IT appears tide has changed, I see clear sailing to 50 cents in a few days. It would be smart to buy here so your average cost goes down. I am a hold until 1.50, then I will take some money off the table, and let it ride.
I BOUGHT TODAY - I feel bad guys are out of bullets and are heading for the hills. I would recommend a "buy" on the stock,to my friends.
Stock will move back up when insiders have filled up the holdings. Don't sell just wait for a turaround soon. Off the record I will have a real flyer for us in about 30 days, it will be cheap, but more professionally mangered a real mover and not like this lame duck.We will keep in touch- Don't worry !!
Good news -- It is Saturday, stock won't go down today !!
Small float - "must be someones pipedream" - there are way too many shares changing hands in a month - something is wrong here.
Averaging down is like catching a falling knife.
Be patient and wait for a change in sentiment, at these prices it is ridiculous to sell.
Lots of things convincing people to buy and run up price seem to be not quite "true" - Pink sheets are treacherous because of what you don't know. Stock will come back, but remember you have no "friends" at this company !!!
Small float tightly held shares is pure B.S
VTEC TREE - my neighbior planted a VTEC tree in his yard. He boasted to me it would grow to be the biggest tree in the neighborhood in just 28 days. On the 29th day all the neighbors stopped by to congratulate him, only to find the tree had no roots and it had fallen down smashing the guys house to bits !!
Moral here is don't be a cowboy or a saleman until you know what your selling,as you can lose your house and all your friend's money.
I am long and accumulating slowly in the trenches with a more realistic expectation of a 1.50 down the line.
Stock will not stabilize or rise until all angry and malicious insiders and big holders of stock have dumped their last share.
THE BIG MISTAKE ..... We all felt that a small float meant that insiders were going to work together and not turn into selfish pigs. When the pigs are through dumping you are safe to buy back in. I will continue to accumulate slowly, as I think the problems here will straighten shortly.
When shares are locked up in the hands of reasonable investors, pehaps then, a professional promoter can network with the newly acquired companies to "get the word out" and help the stock !!!
Warrants ??? - Company could "give" a warrant to each shareholder for each share owned with a strike price of 1.50 -stock of record of 01/01/08. This would provide incentive to hold onto shares,stop the selling,and would get the company a influx of cash if stock goes to 2-3 dollar range. Warrants could run for 5 years and would be callable should stock price close over 3 dollars for 30 consecutive trading days. The strike price could be lowered if the company needs cash. Best defense is a good offense !!!
I see no reason to sell and many reasons to buy at these prices - Where the hell is all this selling coming from ?? - it seems like somehow someone is selling stock he got for nothing and doesn't care about share price - I say wait them out as selling will stop.
Don't Chase - but "pick" - I believe a double is possible here- if you buy small lots each day starting in the low to upper 40 cent range. I am back "in" but it took many transactions- over a few days - to accumulate without chasing the price.
I am not saying that I think the bad boys are out of ammo - but if they get hit with enough slow and steady buying they will move out of the way. Slow and easy until stock gets some legs!!
The company hiring a stock promoter would be the knock out punch, I hope they go that route.
THE BIG BOYS - and their friends must have lost lots of money in the 2 day crash - as did many a person here - stock price will go "nowhere" until a public letter to shareholders goes out, reaffirming goals and explaining the selling that crushed a healthy stock. My "guess" is management got blindsided and is embarassed to admit it, whats knew , it is always those closest to you that can hurt you the most.
So what's the plan coach ? How are we going to get this dog running again ? We are ready to play ball and AVERAGE UP !
If you can't handle the abuse of the market makers then hire some promoters to get the word out,fight fire with fire.
Agree - with a special incentive to buy as I suggested, those in, will stay in, and buy more, new buying will come, and bad guys will move on to damage some other stock.
A Neapolitan Mastiff would do the trick, management needs to add some "teeth" to their plan of action, we really got our wallet picked here, a real disgrace.
Management needs to do "something " along the lines of my last post. This will change the momentum and sentiment to positive, shorts and dumpers will back off. VERY SIMPLE - Is anyone going to tell a friend to buy this stock, based on present unclear conditions ? - ( No ) .We need a spark to get the engine running again, and occasional good news is NOT enough.
Forget Dilution - You are getting your $%^ kicked - down on a good news day ?? - buying/volume trigggers selling ?? - Company has a good future but stock price does not - "make nice" with a good brokerage, get the word out, put a fat bid out there at a good price and sit there, consider a stock dividend and or a warrant/rights offering to raise some cash,( dollar strike), dry up panic selling, change sentiment, and kill some "short" but mean big bad wolves. Honey makes money, wake up!!.
When you have a mean WOLF eating your sheep - You buy a meaner WOLF to eat him. (old Sicilian Proverb)
Big Volume and Volatilitry Spike - may be good news eventually, I am out until I see a trend. It seems like someone is deliberately beating up this stock, by shorting rallies, to the point of it looking like a personal vendetta. I have had suspicions of this since the CRASH.
The Good ,The Bad, and The Ugly - A 12 cents spread on bid/ask for a 49 cent stock, is quite Ugly. It would be Good if you all knew of all major shareholders with over 10 percent of the float, so you know if there is another load of stock to be dumped. Bad boys here may not be out of Ammo. Good Luck !
ada & maronti1 - Excellent posts - nice work- but there are are plenty of bad boys out there so - buy - but don't chase stocks - set a stop loss to protect your money- get out when you feel uncomfortable- trees don't grow to touch the sky !!
Nice Work Maronti1 - the bottom line is getting good numbers on float,outstanding shares, P/E, insider selling,as they are fine tools for rating a company.
However it all comes down to a "price" based on supply vs. demand.
Unless retail brokers, or big players pick up the phone and get the word out, there are 1000's of other stocks out there competing for investor money.
Too many secrets on the pink sheets, and too many insiders looking to screw their partners.
I am looking elsewhere at this time, I hope you do well here.
It would be tough for me to buy here, and then hope for a good nights sleep. The stock was 6.50 weeks ago,and now is at a low below its post reverse split price.
Hang in there, if I find a "gem" in the rough I will E mail it to you !!
Thanks !! You are a true gentleman- I would like to see the company make a statement on how they plan to prevent another "Bear Raid" in the future.
People who didn't sell-out "early" might consider investing at these low prices , if some shares were paid as a dividend to help them out on their losses.Good luck !!
PROMISE ME - don't let anyone B.S. You and say you as the victim are "to blame". I didn't buy this pos as a day trade but rather accepted it would be volatile and hold on for a good support level.
It took 28 days of impressive buying, to get stock to 5 to 6 dollar range. I set a mental "stop loss" of 2.50 to 3.00 as my hold or sell point.
This pos came down like a plane crash.
It was in free fall and down 2.5 point in a few trading hours. Down 4 points in a few days.
This was a contrived, orchestrated, and evil manipulation for gain, by individuals who should be identified and prosecuted.
I estimate investor losses exceed a million.
Sit and bleed, as I doubt the Nasd or SEC can do anything at this point, these were "smooth operators " at play here. I had given up the pink sheets but I was weak and went back in along with friends as a good old days sort of thing.
Sorry I did this is a toxic waste dump.
I may renegotiate my mortgage, but I think my wildwest days are over. Good Luck. CAVEAT EMPTOR
Sorry - but you miss the point - the stock is declining because all the hype that brought pople here has been destroyed. If you want to buy a truckload here,be my guest,
I averaged down at 75 cents and got burned a second time. Unless you can predict the furure I suggest you and the other guys don't try and guess the bottom. Let the big shots fund a trip back to a dollar. As you can average up not down. I think this is going to 10-12 cents range - Just imagine having been acquired by these people for stock when it was 500 percent higher. This is a disgrace.Good luck you have good heart !!!
How Can You Buy - at any price- when the company goes "MUTE" after having their doors blown off in a vicious selloff.
ANALOGY : Great NFL pick for Sunday, "VTEC Bombers" they have a coach who doesn't speak to the players, and the only one who knows the play book is the quarterback.
Call The Company-- Ask how many shares were sold by insiders during and since the crash of Late August- this information is required by the regulators- company's silenece, and easy out by blaming the shorts , seem too coincidental for me.
Maronti1- here is e mailer link
http://www.pizzazine.com/
What A Schocker - I read the e mailer that went out on pizza.net- It is O.K. - but quite remarkably no effort was made to "work in" the name of VTEC. I know you can't encourage people to buy stock, without an approved prospectus, but a casual reference to a good news development could help. These dudes are shellshocked from the short attack, they are frozen in time and place,afraid to make a move.I kind of understand, I never owned a stock that collapsed as violently as this one. They must sneak around avoiding friends.
I do wish you well - but considering how this stock rose for 28 days, and then "crashed" in only 2 days,( over 500 percent down) I don't want to wakeup one morning, check my computer and find this at a one penny. Risk does not match reward, here, fish elsewhere, you will get more sleep.
Noahsplay & Onpatrol- Your e mail is right on target- I bought here because I was told they had a rock solid management team. I am now "out" as I see NO indication that this is a company who cares about anything other than enriching insiders.
Screw the little guy, not even a kind word ???. What goes around comes around shorts and these "players" deserve each other.
Good health to posters here, lots of nice people, don't fall in love with this stock, there are 1000's of others.
Thanks Maronti - I have a friend who can go to South Florida to help me and you, I hope others have interest. I will keep in touch. Maybe losing your money here is all relative to how rich you are. I sure feel V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D. the company is speechless ????
ENOUGH is ENOUGH !! the company has made no efforts to reassure investors that we are back on track. No plan of action to bolster shareholder value has even been hinted at.
(IF YOU LIVE NEAR SOUTH FLORIDA) -- lets consider getting a group together to meet with company bigshots and see if they have a pulse.
If they shut us out we will meet at a hotel. If they are naiive enough to think this stock won't drift down, without active retail support, and professional P/R, then we all are doomed.
Excellent Post - Management here may just fix things, afterall its their money which was also lost. However playing the "head coach" here and telling the players to regroup and we will prevail, is something they can't handle.
Again, they seem to be handling this disaster by pretending it never happened.
They should "wakeup" eventually,(if they have true management potential).
If you are reading this, and you know them personally, it's time to pick up the phone and be more realistic, and less polite in your demands. Hey its very personal when it is your own money you lost !!
MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO BE OUT HERE !!
Issuing news and explanations on how they are going to get things back on track. Are they that shy or just embarassed ?
Level II looks better - SBSH is NOT low offer on stock.
Very low stock overhang on the upside.
I Feel Your Pain - We all do -- Hopefully company will do the necessary to defend us all by getting more aggressive this week. If things look like hell by Friday, we will need to put some "heat" on the bad guy marketmakers.
Don't underestimate the power of our numbers vs these pigs, they are greedy, but they have no stomach for bad publicity, or a fight with regulators.Keep cool for a few more days. I cannot simply leave and take a loss here, it would be stupid not to exhaust all our options.
TRIAGE - anyone with friendly access to management should call them and ask them a simple question.
Do they want to wait for the stock to be irreparably damaged before they go after their enemies and try to repair the damage.
You are are trading at levels below the post reverse split.
The people posting here, are loyal, optimistic, but none of them seem stupid or apathetic. Here is a shocker, investors will not ride this to pennies. Management has been way too silent here on this post bloodbath situation, time to stop using the sleazy pinksheets and marketmakers as the only ones at fault here.
No Volume- Why ? - present shareholders are "scared to death" this was the bloodiest short attack I ever went through.
Stock is cheaper than most people own it,so NEW buyers may be the way to go,(they haven't had their doors blown off in bear raid of 2 weeks ago).
DO THE MATH --- If subscribers of Pizza net and the the acquisition "Made in USA", find out down the line of their new ownership, by a company with a low priced stock, they may very well buy the stock, tell their friends, and join the team.
I know investors, they see a price of a share under the cost of a lottery ticket they will buy a bunch just to be part of something big.
I am maxed out, but if your not, wait for volume, news, or upward momentum, and go with the flow.
Good Luck !!
maronti1 - please call I/R since they know you from earlier inquiries- and post their thoughts on when e mailer to pizza net members will go out - this would be of graet help in bringing a more broad based buying into the stock.